Re: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-22 Thread Matt Liotta


On Jul 22, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:


1. Is VoIP part of your plans?

We are already doing VoIP.


2. Do you believe VoIP is a viable offering for a WISP?

Depends on the WISP.

3. What type revenue contribution in terms of additional ARPU do  
you think

VoIP can add?

0

4. If you will or are doing VoIP as a service, will/are you  
leveraging third

parties? If so, who do like?
We use XO and Volo Communications. I wouldn't recommend either.  
First, XO requires at least a 1M minute monthly commit and is very  
difficult to work with. We are through our pains with them now, but I  
wouldn't wish that on anyone else. Level3 has the best footprint, but  
requires at least a $25K monthly commit, so we went with Volo, which  
is a Level3 reseller. Much like XO, we have had to endure serious  
pain getting setup with Volo. Again, i wouldn't wish that on anyone  
else.


Outside of Level3 and XO, virtually no operator has a large enough  
footprint or is stable enough to trust that they will build a large  
enough footprint. Further, many operators will provide their service  
over the internet leading to serious quality concerns. If an  
operator's customers aren't big enough to afford a circuit for their  
voice needs then they are too small. The VoIP economics don't allow  
for small wholesale deals.


5. Would VoIP be offered to your commercial customers, residential  
or both?

We only do commercial.

6. If you are obtaining your own switch, what brands are in your  
top 3?

We use a in-house maintained branch for Asterisk.


7. Does VoIP capability drive any of your wireless equipment decision
making?

Absolutely.

8. If you are doing now, could you architect out how you do it and  
what
adjustment it forced in terms of capacity planning on your wireless  
network?
Capacity was never a problem for us. However, we did find that in  
places where we were using Linux routers and/or cheap switches (cheap  
includes used carrier equipment) we needed to get rid of them in  
favor of modern carrier-grade equipment.


-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] SercoNet

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Hendry
Would be interesting to see how long a cable run you could run these over.

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Subject: [WISPA] SercoNet

Mixed Signals
Wireless networks get a boost from phone lines.
Entrepreneur magazine - June 2006

For example, SercoNet is developing a technology that sends Wi-Fi 
signals over your existing phone lines without affecting their use for 
voice or DSL internet access.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/mag/article/0,1539,327728,00.html


Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884
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[WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-22 Thread Patrick Leary
So VoIP over wireless is a very important topic to us at Alvarion right now.
Increasing we are being told by new customers that much of their equipment
choice is or will be based on the ability to offer true "double play" in
scale. Essentially, they say the need to offer bundled services is a must,
not an option, in order to remain competitive going forward. I am interested
to hear listers inputs on the subject. Some questions I have:

1. Is VoIP part of your plans?
2. Do you believe VoIP is a viable offering for a WISP?
3. What type revenue contribution in terms of additional ARPU do you think
VoIP can add?
4. If you will or are doing VoIP as a service, will/are you leveraging third
parties? If so, who do like?
5. Would VoIP be offered to your commercial customers, residential or both?
6. If you are obtaining your own switch, what brands are in your top 3?
7. Does VoIP capability drive any of your wireless equipment decision
making?
8. If you are doing now, could you architect out how you do it and what
adjustment it forced in terms of capacity planning on your wireless network?

Any other comments or issues on the subject would be welcome.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

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Re: [WISPA] Field Techs & Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-22 Thread Peter R.

How can you tell he can / will pay for it?

It is much better to have a set policy: our standard install includes X, 
Y, and Z.
If we have to run another 100 ft of cabling or drill or whatever, that 
will be billable at $90 per hour.


- Peter

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Don;t forget you may not be competing based on value of time. You may 
be competing on value of solution.
remember you make residual income on their INternet subscription. If 
you ahve more man hours to instll the wireless, even if due to custom 
work, the cusomter may not have that same cost if they have Cable or 
DSL options.  My cost to do the custom work is sometimes looked at as 
overhead ($15 salaried employee time). I only charge for the extra 
time if the client would likely pay it, because they don;t have any 
other option, or its work that would have to be done and paid for 
regardless of wether it was for Cable, DSL, or Wireless.  Don't get 
confused which type of work it is, because if you try and charge for 
everything, you may loose the subscriber, lose the reoccuring revenue, 
and lose the X multiple of revenue at Sell time.


However, if its billable work that you can get away with, I wouldn't 
charge anything less than $90 an hour. At $90 an houir we are the low 
cost guy in town compared to the $125-$150 others charge.



Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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