Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS
I like this statement from the DBOSS manual: Automated assignment of static IP to customer's PCs and gateways Some network applications or services require the assignment of a static IP address. Voice Over IP (VOIP) is probably the most notable of such. Normally, the assignment of a static IP address would require that the customer's PC be manually configured. TEAM avoids this by provisioning IP addresses to customers based on the IP address and the MAC address of the CPE assigned to the customer in dBOSS. Isn't that DHCP? "Automated assignment of a static IP address" pd Matt Liotta wrote: I like how they end their pitch... "The reason and dreams behind getting into the WiSP business in the first place can finally be realized by contracting with RidgeviewTel’s WiSP Services division." -Matt Brian Rohrbacher wrote: FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS And then there are all the paid services. http://www.dboss-online.com/ read the pdf prices on page 22, but I emailed them and they said the prices are changing. More like $250.00 a month for 0 - 250 customers (bundled services) http://www.dboss-online.com/wisp_services.pdf Pretty neat services they offer. I'm not technical enough to do it all on my own, this looks ok. Give me some input here. Are all these services needed? How does the value look? Brian Rohrbacher -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone here using Vitelity.net for VOIP services?
Butch Evans wrote: I am having some issues and would like to see if anyone else using this service is having the same issues, or has some suggestions for getting it fixed. I am ready to switch to another provider because Vitelity support sucks pretty badly anyway. We had some callerid problems to start with. Then they somehow mis provisioned our 1-800. Everything got a lot better once we switched from IAX2 to SIP for the trunking protocol. Give me a call today if there is anything I can do it help you out. Matt Larsen has been using them as well and hasn't had any problems so far, but we are both still in the testing phase. Jeremy Davis 614-347-6229 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
I've had a truck with a 750 watt inverter in it for 5 plus years. I don't use it everyday, but often enough. http://www.heartlandamerica.com/browse/item.asp?PIN=35595; Brian Rick Smith wrote: how long have you been doing it tho ? I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM! No alternator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not running without any issue... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 1000 watt inverter. Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter. I have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't affect the alternator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys be careful using inverters. I've used several, on two different trucks in my span here, and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks. One was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output alternator Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the alternator... I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy, routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees. I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator. Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt 18V batteries that power my radio setup. The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours which is more than enough time. If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their power to power the radios and recharge my laptop :) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power port. May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on for much longer for an hour. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years. Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery charger and power supplies I leave plugged in. I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery box that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I light up. George Rick Smith wrote: how long have you been doing it tho ? I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM! No alternator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not running without any issue... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 1000 watt inverter. Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter. I have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't affect the alternator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys be careful using inverters. I've used several, on two different trucks in my span here, and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks. One was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output alternator Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the alternator... I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy, routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees. I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator. Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt 18V batteries that power my radio setup. The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours which is more than enough time. If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their power to power the radios and recharge my laptop :) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power port. May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on for much longer for an hour. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
Two batteries will stress an alternator. Like everything else we do, make sure to get an alternator that is rated for the job. Brian George Rogato wrote: My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years. Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery charger and power supplies I leave plugged in. I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery box that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I light up. George Rick Smith wrote: how long have you been doing it tho ? I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM! No alternator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not running without any issue... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 1000 watt inverter. Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter. I have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't affect the alternator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys be careful using inverters. I've used several, on two different trucks in my span here, and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks. One was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output alternator Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the alternator... I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy, routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees. I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator. Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt 18V batteries that power my radio setup. The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours which is more than enough time. If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their power to power the radios and recharge my laptop :) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power port. May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on for much longer for an hour. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List:
[WISPA] Site Survey/Spectrum Analizer
Whats the deal with 802.11 type APs not being able to do a true spectrum analysis? Like mikrotik. Is it... Hardware Software Does it make the product proprietary? To narrow it down a little. I use some MT APs and it would be nice to be able to do a spectrum analysis for troubleshooting. Possible interference from and device in the band. I only want to know why we cannot do this. Has no one asked for it, or is it a real limitation? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: sendmail question
David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, October 30, 2006 3:41 pm, N White wrote: I suggest the following. I never liked Sendmail all that much You misspelled 'www.postfix.org' :) David Smith MVN.net I agree! =) -- Adam Kennedy System Administrator Cyberlink International Phone: 888-293-3693 ext. 4352 Fax: 888-293-3995 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen
John, Helpful post! In summary of this thread, I guess the message I'm getting is, there is no substitution for the right tool for the job. And its clear that an analyzer is the correct tool, to truely learn the characteristics of your RF colocated neighbor, without risk of false assumptions. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen Good info Jack. In a past life I was a headend tech in the cable television industry. and I also performed signal egress and ingress troubleshooting using a Hewlett Packard 8591B analyzer. I spent a few thousand hours on this tool and learned much about spectrum analysis at that time. Here is some info for some of those out there who may be new to spectrum analysis: There is something that can make these paging transmitters appear to be bleeding over into the ISM bands when in fact they may not be. The setting on the analyzer is called resolution bandwidth. This setting takes all power within a given bandspace and averages it together as it sweeps across the screen. The wider this setting is the fewer bumps you see on the screen. The trace will smooth out as you increase this setting because it is averaging power within a wider space of spectrum. This has the added effect of making a loud carrier appear to cover a wider space than it actually does and can cause you to believe that a paging or other carrier is bleeding over into the ISM band. On the contrary, narrowing the resolution bandwidth will show more accurate representation of actual power in a given bandspace but is slower to scan on most analyzers and produces a very sporadic display. If you are looking for narrowband or adjacent channel interference into your band then a narrow resolution bandwidth will be required. If you are wanting to take a RSSI reading of your own carrier then a wider resolution bandwidth will be required. Resolution bandwidth is something you should learn to use and understand if you want to get more from your work. It is an important part of spectrum analysis. If you want to see how good an analyzer is then look at how low the resolution bandwidth setting will allow. For our work a minimum resolution bandwidth of about 100kHz is probably all you will ever need. Also run it at its lowest resolution bandwidth and see how long it takes to scan across the screen. If you are comparing multiple analyzers make sure you always use the same span setting (difference between upper and lower frequency on display). A narrower span will display a narrow resolution bandwidth much faster. Better analyzers will have a wide range of resolution bandwidth settings and will show a sharp, clean display in any setting. Learning to use a spectrum analyzer can seem daunting at first glance. Do not let this intimidate you. You can learn to use this and get meaningful information from it if you give it a try. You will not break the analyzer by experimenting with it. If the unit you are using has knobs and you had it set by someone previously then just take notes of where they are set and then experiment with the unit. The most important things to master are start frequency, stop frequency, span, center frequency, reference level, attenuation, resolution bandwidth. Anything else you learn is good to know but not as much as what I just outlined here. If anyone here is working with an analyzer and does not know what any of those things mean then feel free to ask here onlist (or offlist if you would prefer to not tell others you do not know):-) Scriv Jack Unger wrote: Tom, Yes, their gear (the paging stuff) not only costs more but their transmitters spurious emissions have to remain low or the paging company risks being fined by the FCC. Sure, a transmitter can malfunction once in a while and cause interference to the ISM band but this is not a common occurance. Our gear has receivers where the manufacturing cost is quite low. There may be $50 worth of parts in the receiver section of an AP. The vendors typically do not spend a lot of money on components that would raise the cost of their equipment and make it non-competitive such as adding expensive filters to reduce the overloading problems that only a minority of WISPs may ever experience. Similarly, the new cars that people buy don't come with the most expensive tires as standard equipment because most people would never notice a difference or be willing to pay more for the premium tires. I started deploying 900 MHz bridges in 1993 and 900 MHz APs (yes, for WISP service) in 1995. I used Lucent Wavelan cards in those systems. Whenever I was located within about 1/3 of a mile from a cell site (with colocated 929 MHz and 930 MHz paging) I had to
[WISPA] Battery charger (adding to site survey thread)
I already have a setup for battery backup with a deep cycle battery but I don't have anything in place to charge it. I want something to leave plugged in all the time that knows when to charge. I found this on froogle. Looks like what I want. Who has thoughts on these next two links? http://www.rvupgradestore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=306 http://www.rvupgradestore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=307 Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational supply store. Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v power port. ...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for. ;) Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years. Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery charger and power supplies I leave plugged in. I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery box that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I light up. George Rick Smith wrote: how long have you been doing it tho ? I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM! No alternator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not running without any issue... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 1000 watt inverter. Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter. I have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't affect the alternator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys be careful using inverters. I've used several, on two different trucks in my span here, and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks. One was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output alternator Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the alternator... I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy, routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees. I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator. Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt 18V batteries that power my radio setup. The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours which is more than enough time. If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their power to power the radios and recharge my laptop :) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power port. May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on for much longer for an hour. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High
[WISPA] WTB Orders (FCC-06-110)
All, Below is something WISPA should be paying attention to. WTB Orders (FCC-06-110) AMENDMENT OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES REGARDING DEDICATED SHORT-RANGE COMMUNICATION SERVICES IN THE 5.850-5.925 GHZ BAND (5.9 GHZ BAND), AMENDMENT OF PARTS 2 AND 90 OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES TO ALLOCATE THE 5.850-5.925 GHZ BAND TO THE MOBILE SERVICE And here is the link for those of you who would like to look into this in further detail. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-110A1.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
At least 6 months maybe a little more. I generally do not have the engine running when I do a site survey and my laptop has a 12v adapter. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys how long have you been doing it tho ? I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM! No alternator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not running without any issue... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 1000 watt inverter. Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter. I have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't affect the alternator. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys be careful using inverters. I've used several, on two different trucks in my span here, and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks. One was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output alternator Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the alternator... I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy, routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees. I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator. Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt 18V batteries that power my radio setup. The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours which is more than enough time. If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their power to power the radios and recharge my laptop :) R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power port. May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on for much longer for an hour. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto adapter) We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable power source for the radio. BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up for 5 - 10 minutes. Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] HighGainAntennas
Anyone using their gear? Good, bad? So far I like what I see. Have tested the 8186HP-14 and 8186HP-19 and have been very satisfied to this point. A little more work to have to put the radio "together" myself (at least on the 14db model), but that also allows for me to access the radio inside (i.e. factory reset). Reception and stability have been good for me. Only complaint are that the boxes are a little slow to boot and the software is slow to make changes, but for the price I can live with that. Haven't looked at their "carrier class" gear yet, but their "cheap gear" seems to be what I'm looking for to replace my Tranzeo CPQ's. Anyone else have input? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards
I have some mini-pci cards but I don't know anything about them. Anyone know of a good way to determine what they are. Maybe by mac address? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards
http://www.curreedy.com/stu/nic/ Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:17 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards I have some mini-pci cards but I don't know anything about them. Anyone know of a good way to determine what they are. Maybe by mac address? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards
The MAC address may help get you to the manufacturer...or, maybe just to a blind source that won't give you a clue. Does the PnP Windows driver show you anything? That can be right down to the model number...if you can get it to recognize the driver which is likely the reason you submitted the question. ...oops Take a digital photo and submit it to the group...somebody will likely recognize it and even give you the model number which is what you likely need. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:17 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards I have some mini-pci cards but I don't know anything about them. Anyone know of a good way to determine what they are. Maybe by mac address? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards
yup. So far i have*Z-COM, INC.* Jonathan Schmidt wrote: The MAC address may help get you to the manufacturer...or, maybe just to a blind source that won't give you a clue. Does the PnP Windows driver show you anything? That can be right down to the model number...if you can get it to recognize the driver which is likely the reason you submitted the question. ...oops Take a digital photo and submit it to the group...somebody will likely recognize it and even give you the model number which is what you likely need. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:17 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards I have some mini-pci cards but I don't know anything about them. Anyone know of a good way to determine what they are. Maybe by mac address? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] identity of mini-pci cards
Send me photos or, if allowed, post photos here Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I have some mini-pci cards but I don't know anything about them. Anyone know of a good way to determine what they are. Maybe by mac address? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
Thanks Mark Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to the side of my van. George Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational supply store. Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v power port. ...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for. ;) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen
Tom, Good summary. jack Tom DeReggi wrote: John, Helpful post! In summary of this thread, I guess the message I'm getting is, there is no substitution for the right tool for the job. And its clear that an analyzer is the correct tool, to truely learn the characteristics of your RF colocated neighbor, without risk of false assumptions. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen Good info Jack. In a past life I was a headend tech in the cable television industry. and I also performed signal egress and ingress troubleshooting using a Hewlett Packard 8591B analyzer. I spent a few thousand hours on this tool and learned much about spectrum analysis at that time. Here is some info for some of those out there who may be new to spectrum analysis: There is something that can make these paging transmitters appear to be bleeding over into the ISM bands when in fact they may not be. The setting on the analyzer is called resolution bandwidth. This setting takes all power within a given bandspace and averages it together as it sweeps across the screen. The wider this setting is the fewer bumps you see on the screen. The trace will smooth out as you increase this setting because it is averaging power within a wider space of spectrum. This has the added effect of making a loud carrier appear to cover a wider space than it actually does and can cause you to believe that a paging or other carrier is bleeding over into the ISM band. On the contrary, narrowing the resolution bandwidth will show more accurate representation of actual power in a given bandspace but is slower to scan on most analyzers and produces a very sporadic display. If you are looking for narrowband or adjacent channel interference into your band then a narrow resolution bandwidth will be required. If you are wanting to take a RSSI reading of your own carrier then a wider resolution bandwidth will be required. Resolution bandwidth is something you should learn to use and understand if you want to get more from your work. It is an important part of spectrum analysis. If you want to see how good an analyzer is then look at how low the resolution bandwidth setting will allow. For our work a minimum resolution bandwidth of about 100kHz is probably all you will ever need. Also run it at its lowest resolution bandwidth and see how long it takes to scan across the screen. If you are comparing multiple analyzers make sure you always use the same span setting (difference between upper and lower frequency on display). A narrower span will display a narrow resolution bandwidth much faster. Better analyzers will have a wide range of resolution bandwidth settings and will show a sharp, clean display in any setting. Learning to use a spectrum analyzer can seem daunting at first glance. Do not let this intimidate you. You can learn to use this and get meaningful information from it if you give it a try. You will not break the analyzer by experimenting with it. If the unit you are using has knobs and you had it set by someone previously then just take notes of where they are set and then experiment with the unit. The most important things to master are start frequency, stop frequency, span, center frequency, reference level, attenuation, resolution bandwidth. Anything else you learn is good to know but not as much as what I just outlined here. If anyone here is working with an analyzer and does not know what any of those things mean then feel free to ask here onlist (or offlist if you would prefer to not tell others you do not know):-) Scriv Jack Unger wrote: Tom, Yes, their gear (the paging stuff) not only costs more but their transmitters spurious emissions have to remain low or the paging company risks being fined by the FCC. Sure, a transmitter can malfunction once in a while and cause interference to the ISM band but this is not a common occurance. Our gear has receivers where the manufacturing cost is quite low. There may be $50 worth of parts in the receiver section of an AP. The vendors typically do not spend a lot of money on components that would raise the cost of their equipment and make it non-competitive such as adding expensive filters to reduce the overloading problems that only a minority of WISPs may ever experience. Similarly, the new cars that people buy don't come with the most expensive tires as standard equipment because most people would never notice a difference or be willing to pay more for the premium tires. I started deploying 900 MHz bridges in 1993 and 900 MHz APs (yes, for WISP service) in 1995. I used Lucent Wavelan cards in those systems. Whenever I was located within about 1/3 of a mile from a cell site
RE: [WISPA] Anyone here using Vitelity.net for VOIP services?
Try running pingplotter to see where the trouble is at. We did have some of our VoIP services terminated there, but the transition from Bell South to Level 3 at Dallas was killing us. Give www.calleveryone.com a look see and you may have an option there. These folks have been pretty solid for us, but not a dream as far as support goes. That my brother - - is another story :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone here using Vitelity.net for VOIP services? On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Jeremy Davis wrote: We had some callerid problems to start with. Then they somehow mis provisioned our 1-800. Everything got a lot better once we switched from IAX2 to SIP for the trunking protocol. Give me a call today if there is anything I can do it help you out. Matt Larsen has been using them as well and hasn't had any problems so far, but we are both still in the testing phase. Hmmm. This is specifically the issue I am having (part of it). I use IAX to connect to them because one of my upstreams is NAT. With that upstream, I would be double natted and I don't want to try to make that work with SIP. I was having no trouble from them on their inbound.vitelity.net and outbound.vitelity.net server, but something changed, and the latency went from 40ms average to over 200ms average. Obviously, that was not good. They moved me to the new server and now, I am having trouble with IAX. They keep suggesting that I switch to SIP,but I don't want to do that (because of the double nat). Oh, well, there are many other good companies out there. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
I found it...here's the model. http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Power-Station-Boat-Battery/dp/B000FZ4U4M Maybe you could cut that hole in your van in the driver's door and just hold your cig hand outside... ;) Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Thanks Mark Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to the side of my van. George Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational supply store. Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v power port. ...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for. ;) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
George...forgot to tell you that I got it at G.I. Joes in Eugene. I can pick one up for you if you want...Steve and I are fishing on the Siuslaw this Friday...salmon should get moving with the rain coming over the next two days. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys I found it...here's the model. http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Power-Station-Boat-Battery/dp/B000FZ4U4M Maybe you could cut that hole in your van in the driver's door and just hold your cig hand outside... ;) Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys Thanks Mark Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to the side of my van. George Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational supply store. Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v power port. ...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for. ;) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
