[WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
At least their not trying to stream the content. -RickG On 2/28/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STOOPID linksys / netgear / etc
LOL - why lock it down then? On 2/28/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost reminds me when we took over the original dial up isp, the previous guy used a computer shop to sell his service and turn on subs. usernames and passwords were the customers first name and last name. lame... Rick Smith wrote: happened to open my laptop in town to work on a hotspot of mine today. Say an interesting essid... f6a13. and it was locked down. Well, I noticed that it was 10 digits, and when I signed on to it and happened to type that into the WEP KEY area as well, it WAS THE WEP KEY to use to sign onto it. So, this is the way people are going to start sharing now ? Can't vendors make it so that whatever you use as the securing KEY can't be contained in the hostname, essid or anywhere else ? Common Sense... Argh. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STOOPID linksys / netgear / etc
Rick Smith wrote: Can't vendors make it so that whatever you use as the securing KEY can't be contained in the hostname, essid or anywhere else ? Common Sense... I'm sure they could, but as soon as a customer decides this is what they want to do, and can't, angry phone calls will ensue. No matter how silly the request, it's pretty much guaranteed that someone, somewhere, will actually WANT to set up their network that way and have reasons that are (at least in their own heads) perfectly valid for wanting to set it up in that way and no other. A friend of mine uses WPA and made the network key his SSID, but that was actually his honeypot network. (He's a little cracked like that.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
Rick Smith wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ Not much more than what your customers are already using. Basically, it lets you watch purchased content from iTunes on your television. iTunes has sold TV shows for quite a while now. If it tried to stream content, there might be an issue, but AFAIK it doesn't do that. Heck, aside from the iTunes hook, a soft-modded Xbox makes a much better media center, and you can probably find one at your local pawn shop for fifty bucks. :-) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
...yet... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ? At least their not trying to stream the content. -RickG On 2/28/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration
The 'free trial' feature should be what you need. They click on a link on the hotspot login page and get free access. You can determine how long they stay connected. Julius Igugu Webcenta Wireless - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration Hi All... I'm trying to configure an RB532A w/Mikrotik RouterOS. It seems there are a few ways to do what I'm trying to do, so I'm soliciting advice. I'm deploying this as a free hotspot - in a local restaurant to market my service. I'm wanting to allow the restaurant patron to freely connect to the AP, then show him/her an advertisement (maybe a page that makes them agree to terms of service then click OK) that shows them a little about my service, then allow them to get on the Internet to do what they want to do. How are you handling this with regards to Mikrotik RouterOS? Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Marlon, Prior to submitting my 477 today I want to ask you what we are trying to get out of the report. While I have over 500 wireless customers we sell the service as 128k even though 90 percent of them get over the 256 the feds ask about, but that's not what we're selling. In reality we only have 15 customers committed to over 256K. Am I trying to say Yes I can do over that amount? or here is what we actually sell. You tell me which would be better to report. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
I haven't been following compression formats all that closely but I've been amazed what things like SlingBox can do with only a couple hundred kiloBITS/second (not even kilobytes/sec). I think it's microsoft asf (is that mpeg4?) and I've seen good quality sent UPSTREAM from customer cpe (within the typically lower upstream cap). Rich - Original Message - From: David E. Smith To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ? Rick Smith wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ Not much more than what your customers are already using. Basically, it lets you watch purchased content from iTunes on your television. iTunes has sold TV shows for quite a while now. If it tried to stream content, there might be an issue, but AFAIK it doesn't do that. Heck, aside from the iTunes hook, a soft-modded Xbox makes a much better media center, and you can probably find one at your local pawn shop for fifty bucks. :-) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
I've got a great case study I'm gonna write up and PDF soon. My brother-in-law was a yankee fan. They decided to church plant in Prague - yep, czech... He bought an extra receiver for my dad's directv, plugged it into a slingbox, plugged it into dad's wireless connection (trango 900 - 22 miles from my tower, then 12 from there to my noc) and watches yankee games on the Yes network from prague through my network :) works awesome - because of the time difference, I sometimes pull up DirecTV on my laptop during the day through the sling player. Uses about 120k right now on a constant stream to get good quality tv. If I let it go unlimited it'll eat up to 768k R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Comroe Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ? I haven't been following compression formats all that closely but I've been amazed what things like SlingBox can do with only a couple hundred kiloBITS/second (not even kilobytes/sec). I think it's microsoft asf (is that mpeg4?) and I've seen good quality sent UPSTREAM from customer cpe (within the typically lower upstream cap). Rich - Original Message - From: David E. Smith To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ? Rick Smith wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ Not much more than what your customers are already using. Basically, it lets you watch purchased content from iTunes on your television. iTunes has sold TV shows for quite a while now. If it tried to stream content, there might be an issue, but AFAIK it doesn't do that. Heck, aside from the iTunes hook, a soft-modded Xbox makes a much better media center, and you can probably find one at your local pawn shop for fifty bucks. :-) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Not enough info provided. What are you seeing? Some traffic? Poor throughput? Latency? Has the link ever worked? What equipment are you using? What's the distance between antennas? What frequency? What clearance do you have above the roof? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Mark, I am trying to identify the equipment so I can see what the specs are, to find the problem. Someone else installed the gear, and I am trying to determine what the gear is. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Not enough info provided. What are you seeing? Some traffic? Poor throughput? Latency? Has the link ever worked? What equipment are you using? What's the distance between antennas? What frequency? What clearance do you have above the roof? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
http://www.exaltcommunications.com/products/ex-5r.htm Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Mark, I am trying to identify the equipment so I can see what the specs are, to find the problem. Someone else installed the gear, and I am trying to determine what the gear is. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Not enough info provided. What are you seeing? Some traffic? Poor throughput? Latency? Has the link ever worked? What equipment are you using? What's the distance between antennas? What frequency? What clearance do you have above the roof? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Ok, Mike, we know what the radio is... How about the other questions? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.exaltcommunications.com/products/ex-5r.htm Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Mark, I am trying to identify the equipment so I can see what the specs are, to find the problem. Someone else installed the gear, and I am trying to determine what the gear is. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Not enough info provided. What are you seeing? Some traffic? Poor throughput? Latency? Has the link ever worked? What equipment are you using? What's the distance between antennas? What frequency? What clearance do you have above the roof? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Still working on it. We haven't logged in to it yet, but from our original proposal (that we did not get, and someone else did) they mounted too low, and possibly have fresnel zone encroachment. I will let you know ehn we can log in and get some readings. Thanks Gino. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Ok, Mike, we know what the radio is... How about the other questions? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.exaltcommunications.com/products/ex-5r.htm Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Mark, I am trying to identify the equipment so I can see what the specs are, to find the problem. Someone else installed the gear, and I am trying to determine what the gear is. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Not enough info provided. What are you seeing? Some traffic? Poor throughput? Latency? Has the link ever worked? What equipment are you using? What's the distance between antennas? What frequency? What clearance do you have above the roof? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration
I saw the free trial code but have not determined how to get it to display on the page and make use of it. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Igugu Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration The 'free trial' feature should be what you need. They click on a link on the hotspot login page and get free access. You can determine how long they stay connected. Julius Igugu Webcenta Wireless - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration Hi All... I'm trying to configure an RB532A w/Mikrotik RouterOS. It seems there are a few ways to do what I'm trying to do, so I'm soliciting advice. I'm deploying this as a free hotspot - in a local restaurant to market my service. I'm wanting to allow the restaurant patron to freely connect to the AP, then show him/her an advertisement (maybe a page that makes them agree to terms of service then click OK) that shows them a little about my service, then allow them to get on the Internet to do what they want to do. How are you handling this with regards to Mikrotik RouterOS? Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Marlon, Prior to submitting my 477 today I want to ask you what we are trying to get out of the report. While I have over 500 wireless customers we sell the service as 128k even though 90 percent of them get over the 256 the feds ask about, but that's not what we're selling. In reality we only have 15 customers committed to over 256K. Am I trying to say Yes I can do over that amount? or here is what we actually sell. You tell me which would be better to report. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Fw: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration
Hi All, Forbes asked a good question. I didn't know the answer so I shot his note off to the FCC's 477 director. Here's the entire conversation: - Original Message - From: Ellen Burton To: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 477INFO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Hi, Marlon, For Forbes's question: We are trying to measure those end user customers who actually get over 256k. If Forbes has merely decided to advertise in a conservative manner and -- in fact -- 90% of his 500 or so customers (or about 450 customers) actually get over 256k, consistently, then the 450 number should be reported. For your own question, Marlon: You would include in your Form 477 all the connections that you sell as 1meg/1meg because they all operate above our 200k threshold consistently. When you get to the five speed tiers (columns f though j), it might be easiest to put them all in column f (i.e., over 200k but less than 2.5meg). But, if you really know that some number of these connections consistently deliver 2.5meg or higher, you would put those connections into column g. Sorry I haven't been back to you on more general matters, this week, but we've been swamped and I haven't been able to talk with appropriate folks here. Ellen -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:36 PM To: Forbes Mercy Cc: Ellen Burton Subject: Re: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Hi Ellen, Can you please help us with this question? It's valid for me too. I sell 1meg/1meg connections. But people really get anywhere from 800k to 3500k. thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Marlon, Prior to submitting my 477 today I want to ask you what we are trying to get out of the report. While I have over 500 wireless customers we sell the service as 128k even though 90 percent of them get over the 256 the feds ask about, but that's not what we're selling. In reality we only have 15 customers committed to over 256K. Am I trying to say Yes I can do over that amount? or here is what we actually sell. You tell me which would be better to report. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration
IN Winbox IP Hotspot Servers tab then profiles button. The double click on a profile. Check trial then set it up accordingly to the time you want. Is that what you were looking for? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:33 AM To: Julius Igugu; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration I saw the free trial code but have not determined how to get it to display on the page and make use of it. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Igugu Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration The 'free trial' feature should be what you need. They click on a link on the hotspot login page and get free access. You can determine how long they stay connected. Julius Igugu Webcenta Wireless - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration Hi All... I'm trying to configure an RB532A w/Mikrotik RouterOS. It seems there are a few ways to do what I'm trying to do, so I'm soliciting advice. I'm deploying this as a free hotspot - in a local restaurant to market my service. I'm wanting to allow the restaurant patron to freely connect to the AP, then show him/her an advertisement (maybe a page that makes them agree to terms of service then click OK) that shows them a little about my service, then allow them to get on the Internet to do what they want to do. How are you handling this with regards to Mikrotik RouterOS? Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Marlon, Prior to submitting my 477 today I want to ask you what we are trying to get out of the report. While I have over 500 wireless customers we sell the service as 128k even though 90 percent of them get over the 256 the feds ask about, but that's not what we're selling. In reality we only have 15 customers committed to over 256K. Am I trying to say Yes I can do over that amount? or here is what we actually sell. You tell me which would be better to report. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration
Cool, Thanks I did not notice that before. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration IN Winbox IP Hotspot Servers tab then profiles button. The double click on a profile. Check trial then set it up accordingly to the time you want. Is that what you were looking for? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:33 AM To: Julius Igugu; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration I saw the free trial code but have not determined how to get it to display on the page and make use of it. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Igugu Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration The 'free trial' feature should be what you need. They click on a link on the hotspot login page and get free access. You can determine how long they stay connected. Julius Igugu Webcenta Wireless - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT Hotspot Configuration Hi All... I'm trying to configure an RB532A w/Mikrotik RouterOS. It seems there are a few ways to do what I'm trying to do, so I'm soliciting advice. I'm deploying this as a free hotspot - in a local restaurant to market my service. I'm wanting to allow the restaurant patron to freely connect to the AP, then show him/her an advertisement (maybe a page that makes them agree to terms of service then click OK) that shows them a little about my service, then allow them to get on the Internet to do what they want to do. How are you handling this with regards to Mikrotik RouterOS? Thanks in advance... Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration Marlon, Prior to submitting my 477 today I want to ask you what we are trying to get out of the report. While I have over 500 wireless customers we sell the service as 128k even though 90 percent of them get over the 256 the feds ask about, but that's not what we're selling. In reality we only have 15 customers committed to over 256K. Am I trying to say Yes I can do over that amount? or here is what we actually sell. You tell me which would be better to report. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ?
True. On 2/28/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...yet... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Seen AppleTV yet ? At least their not trying to stream the content. -RickG On 2/28/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder what kinda bandwidth this will eat up. http://www.apple.com/appletv/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CALEA - Is this what it's for?
My Grandpa always said follow the dollar ;) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255479,00.html Record Industry Offers Students Settlements Before Bringing Lawsuits Over Music Downloads Wednesday, February 28, 2007 LOS ANGELES — The recording industry trade group will give hundreds of college students suspected of illegally sharing music online a chance to reach settlements before being sued for copyright infringement. The move announced Wednesday comes as the industry seeks to stamp out what it is says is rampant music piracy on campuses. The Recording Industry Association of America said it was sending letters offering discounted settlements to 400 computer users at 13 universities. • Click here for FOXNews.com's Personal Technology Center. The group intends to send hundreds of such pre-litigation letters to university computer users every month. The theft of music remains unacceptably high and undermines the industry's ability to invest in new music, said Mitch Bainwol, chairman and CEO of the association. This is especially the case on college campuses, he said. The letters targeted students at Arizona State University; Marshall University; North Carolina State University; North Dakota State University; Northern Illinois University; Ohio University; Syracuse University; University of Massachusetts, Amherst; University of Nebraska, Lincoln; University of South Florida; University of Southern California; University of Tennessee, Knoxville; and University of Texas, Austin. As part of its ongoing copyright crackdown, the association has already sued about 18,000 computer users nationwide since September 2003. The figure includes about 1,000 university students. The suits were initially filed against John Doe defendants, based on their Internet addresses. Many are accused of downloading music over university Internet services. After filing a lawsuit, recording industry lawyers work through the courts to learn the name of the defendant. The latest letters offer users a chance to settle for substantially less, association President Cary Sherman said. He declined to provide specifics. The association has sent three times more copyright complaints to universities this academic year than it did last year. The complaints ask the schools to take down unauthorized content being shared on their network. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] muni wi fi pricing
Well, thats the question. Did Tax dollars pay for it? Do Cities want to take liabilty and accountability for how they spent tax dollars? Thats the scare of Earthlink type models, it doesn't use tax dollars, it uses private dollars, and the City is off the hook for liabilty. That encourages Cities to give awards to the company that will pay for it, which is the wrong message to send. I beleive the message to send is, Governement stay out of building the network, let the private companies do that. What the Governement should do is provide grants, loan securing, and tax incintives to re-imburse consumers or ISPs for buying the CPE. CPE finance is the only way to guarantee that all providers have equal access to serving consumers. The problem isnlt trying to find providers willing to build networks, its getting subscribers to part with their money to fund the upfront CPE cost. Nobody wants to pay for CPE, not the customer, not the government, and often not the banks and lendors. Thats the bottle neck that is slowing residential wireless deployment. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] muni wi fi pricing I heard the mayor of St. Cloud speak at the DigitalCities Expo last year. He said that there was a lot of complaints from people who could not receive the signal inside their homes and they were disappointed in the speeds they received. Consumers wanted the city to pay for the APs at the homes because the network was paid for with tax dollars. David T. Hughes Director, Corporate Communications Roadstar Internet 604 South King Street -Suite 200 Leesburg, VA 20175 -HOME OF INET LOUDOUN- Office - (703) 234-9969 Direct - (703) 953-1645 Cell -(703) 587-3282 Corporate Offices - (703) 554-6621 Fax - (703) 258-0003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: dhughes248 - Video conference capable -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] muni wi fi pricing I read the article describing pricing and take rates for two separate muni networks: St. Cloud - free access, 80% take Tempe - $19.95/mos first 3 mos, $29.95/mos after that, 15% take Im wondering - is this a perception of value? Does free=low value/low network quality in the mind of the subscriber? Why would the take rate only be 15% for a $30/mos account in an urban market? Competitive pressure? Has anyone tried a wi fi pricing model somewhere in the middle? Maybe $10/mos w/ X take rate... Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] STOOPID linksys / netgear / etc
What if they wanted to share the network but only with people who could figure that out? =-) On 2/28/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Smith wrote: Can't vendors make it so that whatever you use as the securing KEY can't be contained in the hostname, essid or anywhere else ? Common Sense... I'm sure they could, but as soon as a customer decides this is what they want to do, and can't, angry phone calls will ensue. No matter how silly the request, it's pretty much guaranteed that someone, somewhere, will actually WANT to set up their network that way and have reasons that are (at least in their own heads) perfectly valid for wanting to set it up in that way and no other. A friend of mine uses WPA and made the network key his SSID, but that was actually his honeypot network. (He's a little cracked like that.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Any ideas on recovering a TR-CPE200, Revision A?
I have a stack of TR-CPE200 radios with the revision A firmware on them. This revision doesn't respond to the CPE locator tool and I can't seem to ping them. Any ideas on how to get them operational again? Tranzeo is even kind of stuck. If I could get a static ARP entry to ping, I think I would be home free, but I haven't been able to get that to work. Any ideas? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CALEA Session at ISPCON
All, Anyone headed to this session at ISPCON? It should make for some interesting discussion. Track: WIRELESS SERVICES | 3:15 PM - 4:15 PM W9: CALEA and You: Advice, Strategies and Solutions Peering into the future of VoIP is difficult, but by examining lessons learned in the last five years, it’s possible to predict the service challenges that will face next generation VoIP providers in the coming months. This discussion touches on the reasons why two business methodologies for VoIP deployments will continue: the business market vs. residential market. We'll also cover the impact of CALEA and other regulatory requirements and challenges yet to be addressed for the SMB market. We'll look at how non-traditional service providers will affect the competitive landscape and the impact of video and IPTV service delivery on platform architecture. Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Makes you feel a bit... errrr.... what's the word?
http://www.arnewsline.org/index.php?option=contenttask=viewid=18Itemid= If you scroll down a bit... Quote: RADIO LAW: SENATOR AIDS UNLICENSED BROADCASER TO RETURN TO THE AIR A high ranking Democrat and leader in the Senate has helped an unlicensed radio station return to the airwaves. This, after the FCC acted to take it off the air following an inspection revealed that it had no license. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, is in Scottsdale, Arizona with more: -- Rod Moses, the owner of Radio Goldfield Broadcast Inc., was given special temporary authority to go back on the air with his low-power radio station in a January 29th letter from the Federal Communications Commission. A letter generated by pressure brought by Nevada Democratic Senator Harry Reid. Based the action on a complaint filed with the agency, FCC enforcement agents came to Moses' trailer on June 9, 2006. This is the location that also houses his radio station, The FCC engineers inspected the station, and then requested that it be shut it down. Moses complied but then wrote to Senator Reed asking his assistance in getting back on the air. He explained that he had been running the station he calls Radio Goldfield since March 2005. In that time frame he had been broadcasting community news as well as oldies from an MP3 player. He wanted a low power license but had been informed by the FCC that the period to apply had long ago expired. Reed apparently got Moses letter and in turn wrote to the FCC. In his letter to FCC chairman Kevin Martin dated Sept. 1, 2006,, Senator Reed stated that Radio Goldfield made significant public interest contributions to the local community. He told Martin that the unlicensed stations programming brought regular weather reports to this high-desert area of Nevada, where conditions can abruptly change in often times dramatic ways. It did not take the FCC very long to act. It soon wrote to Moses giving him permission to put his unlicensed station back on the air. The letter cites Section 309(f) of the communications Act of 1934, which authorizes the commission to grant the temporary allowance in cases of extraordinary circumstances requiring temporary authorizations in the public interest. For the Amateur Radio Newsline., I'm Norm Seeley, KI7UP, reporting from Scottsdale. End quote. Over the years, pirate radio people have ALWAYS gotten nailed - shut down. One corrupt Senator's wishes and he gets his STA, and probably a license. Anyone think this is a bad omen? I do. Apparently influence and special interests carry the day at the FCC too. Last time the window was open to apply for low power FM translators, a couple of companies applied for HUNDREDS of LPFM translator stations as non- profit. After closing, the company amended all of the applications pending to be commercial. Meaning they got to apply for a broadcast license for free, and now, after being granted modification to the application, they get to sell these granted licenses to commercial stations. They have profited many hundreds of thousands of dollars - and they totally clogged the FCC's licensing system, delaying legitemate license applications by months or years. I'm not trying to flame the FCC... but I do wish to point out that it's a federal agency... subject to political whims and pressure to act outside the interest of the public or nation. Again, federally regulating internet connectivity can result in us being swept into obvlivion at the stroke of a pen, and no amount of grovelling or pleading, or having played nice, will earn us even a moment's reconsideration. Everything we do should be aimed at providing ourselves protection from being wiped out due to pressure from Congress or the Big Boys first, and wishes for favors a very distant 2nd. sigh Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Mike, We have installed 25+ links of Exalt. Feel free to contact me if I can help. 516-551-1131 Bob Moldashel Lakeland Comm 516-551-1131 Mike Delp wrote: http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Alsonothing like going to the costs of buying a dual polarity antenna for a radio that has 2 antenna ports then not putting a cable to connect it! :-) Gotta luv it -B- Mike Delp wrote: http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it?
Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Point To Point Link - What is it? Alsonothing like going to the costs of buying a dual polarity antenna for a radio that has 2 antenna ports then not putting a cable to connect it! :-) Gotta luv it -B- Mike Delp wrote: http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1372.JPG http://www.midconqc.com/images/IMG_1375.JPG Something doesn't work at this location and we have been asked to look into it. I am not familiar with this. Thanks for any and all help Mike -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Makes you feel a bit... errrr.... what's the word?
Mark, I agree completely with your closing sentiment that Everything we do should be aimed at providing ourselves protection from being wiped out due to pressure from Congress or the Big Boys. I don't however understand your beef with this particular FCC action. Mr. Moses was and is now again providing a clear and valuable public service to the community of Goldfield Nevada which (if you've ever been there) is a near ghost-town that's fighting to continue to exist as a community. It seems that Mr. Moses's broadcasting is providing a significant service to the town while harming nobody. Goldfield is located in the desert three hours north of Las Vegas and six hours south of Reno. This is a desolate rural area with little to no local broadcasters so no risk of interference to anyone. http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#q1=goldfield%2C+nv.trf=0mvt=mlon=-117.240601lat=37.714245mag=11 Mr. Moses is harming no one and he is obviously helping his community. I say (figuratively) more power to him. As to your comment that Senator Reid is corrupt... well I'm not even going to go there. I don't want to start ranting about the very real endemic, destructive political corruption that has been on display in our Nation's Capital recently. To end on a positive note, I'll just repeat that I agree with your ending sentiment that we (WISPs) need to do everything to protect ourselves from being wiped out by the Big Boys. Mr. Moses isn't trying to wipe us out, ATT IS trying and has been doing a very good job of that. Let's keep our eyes on the right ball. Respectfully, jack wispa wrote: http://www.arnewsline.org/index.php?option=contenttask=viewid=18Itemid= If you scroll down a bit... Quote: RADIO LAW: SENATOR AIDS UNLICENSED BROADCASER TO RETURN TO THE AIR A high ranking Democrat and leader in the Senate has helped an unlicensed radio station return to the airwaves. This, after the FCC acted to take it off the air following an inspection revealed that it had no license. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, is in Scottsdale, Arizona with more: -- Rod Moses, the owner of Radio Goldfield Broadcast Inc., was given special temporary authority to go back on the air with his low-power radio station in a January 29th letter from the Federal Communications Commission. A letter generated by pressure brought by Nevada Democratic Senator Harry Reid. Based the action on a complaint filed with the agency, FCC enforcement agents came to Moses' trailer on June 9, 2006. This is the location that also houses his radio station, The FCC engineers inspected the station, and then requested that it be shut it down. Moses complied but then wrote to Senator Reed asking his assistance in getting back on the air. He explained that he had been running the station he calls Radio Goldfield since March 2005. In that time frame he had been broadcasting community news as well as oldies from an MP3 player. He wanted a low power license but had been informed by the FCC that the period to apply had long ago expired. Reed apparently got Moses letter and in turn wrote to the FCC. In his letter to FCC chairman Kevin Martin dated Sept. 1, 2006,, Senator Reed stated that Radio Goldfield made significant public interest contributions to the local community. He told Martin that the unlicensed stations programming brought regular weather reports to this high-desert area of Nevada, where conditions can abruptly change in often times dramatic ways. It did not take the FCC very long to act. It soon wrote to Moses giving him permission to put his unlicensed station back on the air. The letter cites Section 309(f) of the communications Act of 1934, which authorizes the commission to grant the temporary allowance in cases of extraordinary circumstances requiring temporary authorizations in the public interest. For the Amateur Radio Newsline., I'm Norm Seeley, KI7UP, reporting from Scottsdale. End quote. Over the years, pirate radio people have ALWAYS gotten nailed - shut down. One corrupt Senator's wishes and he gets his STA, and probably a license. Anyone think this is a bad omen? I do. Apparently influence and special interests carry the day at the FCC too. Last time the window was open to apply for low power FM translators, a couple of companies applied for HUNDREDS of LPFM translator stations as non- profit. After closing, the company amended all of the applications pending to be commercial. Meaning they got to apply for a broadcast license for free, and now, after being granted modification to the application, they get to sell these granted licenses to commercial stations. They have profited many hundreds of thousands of dollars - and they totally clogged the FCC's licensing system, delaying legitemate license applications by months or years. I'm not trying to flame the FCC... but I do wish to point out that it's a federal agency... subject to political
RE: [WISPA] STOOPID linksys / netgear / etc
That's fine, as long as they file their CALEA and 477 Forms :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] STOOPID linksys / netgear / etc What if they wanted to share the network but only with people who could figure that out? =-) On 2/28/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Smith wrote: Can't vendors make it so that whatever you use as the securing KEY can't be contained in the hostname, essid or anywhere else ? Common Sense... I'm sure they could, but as soon as a customer decides this is what they want to do, and can't, angry phone calls will ensue. No matter how silly the request, it's pretty much guaranteed that someone, somewhere, will actually WANT to set up their network that way and have reasons that are (at least in their own heads) perfectly valid for wanting to set it up in that way and no other. A friend of mine uses WPA and made the network key his SSID, but that was actually his honeypot network. (He's a little cracked like that.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Free advertizing
Got some free adverizing the other day out of nowhere: http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/DuneCityPlug/ Just proves that if you work hard enough word of mouth advertizing works. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
