Re: [WISPA] Communications / Radio Tech career
I'll second Chuck's advice but will add that having a BSEE will be very good for you to earn a living doing engineering work. If you can do both - pursue your degree and work part time hands-on then you will have be WYYY ahead of the game. Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: I would say if you have the time, money, desire and drive to get your BSEE, by all means do so. At least you already have all your general ed covered. Normally technicians come up through the ranks, many times with various forms of formal or semi formal education from a variety of colleges and technical training schools or the military. I have hired lots of technicians and engineers over the years. I'll take a life long interest/experience in Ham radio over the degree in many cases. Or military. Fresh BSEEs are not good for much. You have to teach them the stuff the technicians already know. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Communications / Radio Tech career Hi, I've recently graduated with a BA in English BUT am interested in shifting towards a career as a communications or radio technician. I don't really know much about how to go about doing this. Any tips? I've thought about going back to school to pursue a BS in Electrical Engineering, but would that be overkill? Any and all advice is welcome! Thank you, Ryan Van Dolson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Communications / Radio Tech career
There is a great business opportunity in this community for someone that can repair radios at the board level. Many of us have equipment in our shops that have issues and would love have have a trustworthy repair shop that could fix this stuff at a reasonable price. Many cases are bad Ethernet chips, blown capacitors etc. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've recently graduated with a BA in English BUT am interested in shifting towards a career as a communications or radio technician. I don't really know much about how to go about doing this. Any tips? I've thought about going back to school to pursue a BS in Electrical Engineering, but would that be overkill? Any and all advice is welcome! Thank you, Ryan Van Dolson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Communications / Radio Tech career
Ryan, There has just recently been an extended thread on techs vs engineers on the Private Wireless forum, at Yahoo groups. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/privatewirelessforum/ That is a group intended primarily for people involved with the LMR systems, ie the push to talk radios, and data systems found in public safety systems, etc. Two way radio. Component level repair, as in changing out a capacitor or some such is almost a lost art. Replacment costs of the entire board or depot level repair, versus the cost involved with surface mount repairs makes it very much a replace world now a days. Many agencies have service contracts on their mobiles so the radios are swapped out and sent to a depot for repair. The depot swaps boards, and may repair boards using tools like Bed of nails. A good systems tech in the two way world can make well over 60-80k easily now a days, with full benefits including vehicle, phone, health, retirement. A systems tech makes sure the backbone is working - the repeater sites, the microwave backhaul, etc. He may be called to work on various other public safety equipment. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've recently graduated with a BA in English BUT am interested in shifting towards a career as a communications or radio technician. I don't really know much about how to go about doing this. Any tips? I've thought about going back to school to pursue a BS in Electrical Engineering, but would that be overkill? Any and all advice is welcome! Thank you, Ryan Van Dolson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Phone Lines
I was looking to do some phone wiring and wanted something more elegant than wire nuts. I was looking into 110 punch blocks, but it looks like to use it for phone is a bit of a pain. I'm wanting to do one line coming in to a few internal jacks in one situation. In the other, it would be the same, but there's also plans to bring in a T1. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Phone Lines
What about a 66 block? -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:13 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Phone Lines I was looking to do some phone wiring and wanted something more elegant than wire nuts. I was looking into 110 punch blocks, but it looks like to use it for phone is a bit of a pain. I'm wanting to do one line coming in to a few internal jacks in one situation. In the other, it would be the same, but there's also plans to bring in a T1. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 4:45 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 4:45 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Phone Lines
Use a 66 block... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Phone Lines I was looking to do some phone wiring and wanted something more elegant than wire nuts. I was looking into 110 punch blocks, but it looks like to use it for phone is a bit of a pain. I'm wanting to do one line coming in to a few internal jacks in one situation. In the other, it would be the same, but there's also plans to bring in a T1. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango Equipment
Guys, We made an internal decision to standardize on our RF equipment. As such, I have some Trango equipment available. If anyone is interested, contact me off list. I have about 20 of the FOX SUs in unopened boxes as well as 5.3/5.8 APs, 900 APs, and 5-10 900 SUs Sincerely, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 336.510.3800 x111 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1459 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 5:34 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Equipment
What are you standardizing on? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Annas Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango Equipment Guys, We made an internal decision to standardize on our RF equipment. As such, I have some Trango equipment available. If anyone is interested, contact me off list. I have about 20 of the FOX SUs in unopened boxes as well as 5.3/5.8 APs, 900 APs, and 5-10 900 SUs Sincerely, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 336.510.3800 x111 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1459 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 5:34 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM?
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: If i deny SMTP to all but the barracudas IP then won't people not be able to send email ? Without knowing what gear you use or the network topology, this is not an easy answer, but the English version of the firewall would be something like this: 1. Allow Destination TCP/25 going to my customer's mail server if the source IP is my Barracuda. 2. Don't allow any other destination TCP/25 to my customer's mail server. This just fixes that one customer. If you want a more detailed answer, or perhaps a better handle on SMTP traffic in and out of your network, post some detail about what gear you are using and a bit of information about your network. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM?
A little more information might be in order... Did this domain exist before?Did it lapse and then get re-registered? I had this happen to me, a client wanted a domain, which I obtained for him, and set up his email addresses, which were instantly spammed. And, spammed by a huge array of spammers, PLUS some mail that appeared to be from businesses that legitemately send email to customers. He had gotten a domain which had just expired, and since his domain included his first name, email to his first name was already waiting to go. Did you have an MX record for the domain before you pointed it at the Barracuda? Frankly, someone out there IS searching for newly registered domains, and is passing those on to the spammers, but I have my doubts that it's Barracuda Networks. If it is, there's a big lawsuit waiting to happen. This idea could be tested... Anyone interested in seeing if this is just coincidence? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM? I currently host email for a few domains as well as my own. I use a Barracuda SPAM firewall for my own domain but not the others. Anyways I pointed an MX record for one of the domains to the Barracuda Spam Firewall. That domain was not getting any spam whatsoever because it was a newly registered domain but I wanted it to be READY just in case. Anyways as soon as I did that the company that uses the domain's email started screaming bloody murder because they said they were getting TONS of spam all the sudden. Turns out I added the MX record for the Barracuda as a LOWER priority and so it was not getting to filter every email that was coming in. So I started to wonder why the spam was even coming in at all when it HADN'T been before I added the domain to this Barracuda box. Does anyone else here besides me feel that Barracuda is intentionally causing spam to be sent out to its customers domains in order for the customers to see it in the message logs as more amounts of blocked spam that it was before the box was added Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Burlap is a bad idea if you are going to use the system while it is covered Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:54 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Any other ideas? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Burlap is a bad idea if you are going to use the system while it is covered Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:54 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Something that will repel water and not absorb any. Tarps will do fine. Visqueen will do even better if it is durable enough. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Any other ideas? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Burlap is a bad idea if you are going to use the system while it is covered Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:37:54 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble We are going in the morning to start covering the equipment on the tower for the rehab, the earlier suggestion of burlap is this a good solution for sandblasting and how will it affect signal on 5.8Ghz link? Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Good to hear it worked out, make sure to inspect all of the cables after they are done, we had a watertower painted last fall and did not check the cables after they were done. While everything still worked, 6 months later we had water leak into one cable and fry the PoE on a backhaul (on a friday night of course). Ryan Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal, also they will be putting a Geo-tarp up, will this affect the signal greatly 900Mhz and 5.8Ghz Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Patrick, Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community. Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we could move our equipment to in the interim. They expected this to be a 3 month project and we are about 2 months into it now. Alternative solutions are slim to none where you are except bringing in a mobile pig. These mobile towers can usually get up to about 100' but will may be cost prohibitive depending on the revenue on that particular tower. I rented 3 of these towers last summer for a school system from a company in Oklahoma. I googled mobile towers and everything kept pointing to one basic company. I was surprised there were not more scattered around the country. Another option might be to contact the cell phone providers in your area and lease a tower from their fleetalthough that may be a challenge in itself. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Re: [WISPA] Phone Lines
Is there any functional difference between 66 and 110, other than 110 works at higher data speeds? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Phone Lines What about a 66 block? -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:13 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Phone Lines I was looking to do some phone wiring and wanted something more elegant than wire nuts. I was looking into 110 punch blocks, but it looks like to use it for phone is a bit of a pain. I'm wanting to do one line coming in to a few internal jacks in one situation. In the other, it would be the same, but there's also plans to bring in a T1. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Different people here... Patrick Nix is the one with the problem. Kurt Fankhauser is the one with 48 hours notice. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble An injunction has to have some kind of legal grounds, and he signed a contract that clearly states 48 hours notice. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble If the choice is get the town fathers ruffled or losing your business, I know which direction I would go. An injunction only puts the project on hold to force everyone to come and talk. I have used this method before with good success. I would most certainly have a lawyer ready to contact a judge if you are not getting anywhere. What do you have to lose? - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Getting legal involved would pretty much guarantee getting booted off the tower completely once your current contract is up. I would talk to them and see what can be worked out by having you work around their crews. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: Talk to a judge for an emergency injunction. That is interfering with interstate commerce. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM?
Domain was 2 years old, never lapsed. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM? A little more information might be in order... Did this domain exist before?Did it lapse and then get re-registered? I had this happen to me, a client wanted a domain, which I obtained for him, and set up his email addresses, which were instantly spammed. And, spammed by a huge array of spammers, PLUS some mail that appeared to be from businesses that legitemately send email to customers. He had gotten a domain which had just expired, and since his domain included his first name, email to his first name was already waiting to go. Did you have an MX record for the domain before you pointed it at the Barracuda? Frankly, someone out there IS searching for newly registered domains, and is passing those on to the spammers, but I have my doubts that it's Barracuda Networks. If it is, there's a big lawsuit waiting to happen. This idea could be tested... Anyone interested in seeing if this is just coincidence? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Barracuda = Source of SPAM? I currently host email for a few domains as well as my own. I use a Barracuda SPAM firewall for my own domain but not the others. Anyways I pointed an MX record for one of the domains to the Barracuda Spam Firewall. That domain was not getting any spam whatsoever because it was a newly registered domain but I wanted it to be READY just in case. Anyways as soon as I did that the company that uses the domain's email started screaming bloody murder because they said they were getting TONS of spam all the sudden. Turns out I added the MX record for the Barracuda as a LOWER priority and so it was not getting to filter every email that was coming in. So I started to wonder why the spam was even coming in at all when it HADN'T been before I added the domain to this Barracuda box. Does anyone else here besides me feel that Barracuda is intentionally causing spam to be sent out to its customers domains in order for the customers to see it in the message logs as more amounts of blocked spam that it was before the box was added Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director
And I spend an average of 2 hours per day, six days a week and sometimes much more than that such as when writing a new WISPA plan, proposal or FCC Comment. jack John Scrivner wrote: I spend about 3 hours per day also. Scriv On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, Good questions, I will answer your last one now. I put in on average 3 hours a day on WISPA duties. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director Rick, Your bullet questions, gets us off to a great start on this conversation. Ok, based on your job description of Executive Director, what is left as a job description for officers of the board, other than voting to authoirize change? This stage of growth is a scary one, because if the wrong choices are made, it can change the principle foundation of WISPA. The question is, what are we really looking for in an executive director most? A) an office assistant? B) a marketing company? C) General association management D) someone capable to represent the issues of WISPs? These are three very different skill sets. As well, long term, I'm concerned that Vendor contribution could surpass Wisp contribution, if we build a business model that requires the vendor's money to support WISPA's operating costs. Its how organizations get taken over by vendor interests. Not that I do not appreciate vendor sponsorship. (Ps. Thanks for your help Vendors! All your generous contributions is what is currently allowing us to grow the organization). I'd argue, that a director should be well versed in the needs of WISPs. And the best option may be to look for a X-Wisp executive for the job. Or if part-time, an existing WISP? We are in somewhat of a Chicken or Egg situations, from teh perspective that, until we officially define the position, we can;t asses compensation fee, but without the fee defined, we may not be able to explore all our options for candidates. I think, after getting some feedback from members, the board needs to decide what WISPA can currently afford and/or justify paying. At this stage, are we looking for Part-time or Full time? Existing board member's how much time is currently being put in? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director The WISPA Board has discussed the possibility of hiring an Executive Director to handle the day to day operations more efficiently than the 7 member volunteer board can do. One of our largest challenges is financing this position. We are looking or ideas to help fund this position and come up with a job description for the position. Please take a few minutes and jot down a few ideas below. I believe this is the next logical step in establishing WISPA as a important trade association. We have come a long way in the last 4 years and now we need to take it to the next level. This will become a major thrust over the next few months. I think I have some potential Vendor Members willing to contribute, we need to develop this plan and market to the Vendors specifically what their generous contributions will go towards. Your help is needed. Funding Ideas: 1. Work with Vendor Members to ask for contributions such as higher level membership in the $5K to $25K range. 2. Work with larger WISPs willing to pay more than the normal $250 membership fee to help with funding. 3. Partner with other Trade Associations that have common interests and see the value of an alliance with WISPA and Executive Management 4. Apply for Grants that would fund a position like this. Job Description: 1. Handle phone calls and membership bookkeeping 2. Market WISPA to existing WISPs and Vendors 3. Develop partnerships with other trade associations 4. Attend Board meetings 5. Keep Board minutes 6. Communicate to the membership via email newsletters 7. Develop printed marketing material 8. Help facilitate Board Elections and nominations 9. Help organize trade shows/conferences Respectfully, Rick Harnish 260-307-4000 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 4:45 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Jim Patient and Jeffco SOHO, Inc.
It is always good to see old friends joining WISPA and doing well in this business. One of my long time friends in this industry is Jim Patient of Jeffco SOHO, Inc. Jim is nearly a neighbor to me and we do sometimes get together for a St. Louis Cardinals baseball game or even a couple of beers here in Mt. Vernon at the local pub or my infamous Garaj Mahal party pad. I have even had the pleasure of playing music with his son once. As you can see I have known Jim on more than just a business level. On a business level, though, Jim and I have always worked well together. Jim has always treated me right. He is a guy who is not afraid to work along side of you and make your system run right. Jim knows money can be tight at times and he can help get you much bang for the buck. I welcome you here as a vendor to WISPA and I hope you do well in all you do. Thanks for being a supporter of WISPA and for being a good friend to me. Here is a little about Jim and Jeffco SOHO in his own words: Jeffco SOHO, Inc. has been providing complete solutions to WISPs for many years. Not only do we sell hardware and services but also operate a WISP in Jefferson County, MO, so we understand the day to day trials that WISPs face from a real world prospective. JSI specializes in Mikrotik products. We offer complete assembled APs, CPEs, as well as a wide range of peripheral items. We also sell components to the DIY community. In most cases we can ship same day. Basic network configuration is included with our packaged solutions. We are insured and have Comtrain Certified climbers on staff to provide installation services for the Midwest region when needed. Feel free to call if you have any questions or would like help with designing a complete network rollout that fits your needs and is easy on the budget. Thank You, Jim Patient President Jeffco SOHO, Inc. PO BX 96 House Springs, MO, 63051 Office: 636-671-6262 Cell: 314-565-6863 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
