Re: [WISPA] Diversity in Licensed Link
I know Dragonwave does in the Horizon Duo platform... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] Diversity in Licensed Link Lists, What Licensed Link Equipment support Spacial diversity? Trango? DW Horizon? I would assume Alcatel, Harris and Ceragon Do Im plannig a couple of long links over the ocean, altough I have plenty of height to overcome direct reflections on sea, I would like the added bennefit ... Or a Dual link solution would be better? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
I'll throw in another thumbs up to Platypus. I can't live without it, tech support is great, it does autoprovisioning with my mailserver (ModusMail) and integrates with RADIUS (VopRADIUS), has a web-based customer interface built-in, easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too), has capability to do DNS autoconfigure if I remember right, but I think that takes a little bit of work to get that done. Wouldn't trade it for anything and if I had it to do over again, the only thing I'd change is that I would have dropped the money for Wombat long before I did. The price (for both Wombat and Platypus), to me, is reasonable and it makes my life so much easier. I would have to pay an extra person at least part time to take care of what Platypus does automagically for us, and when I look at the honest truth in that, I realize that what I'm paying is a drop in the bucket compared to what an additional person would cost. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. I agree with you on that. So many fixes that create other bugs. Hopefully with the new Bertram ownership, this will stabilize. They have been more responsive lately, though, when we do find bugs. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop, Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 http://www.unwiredwest.com 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: John McDowell j...@boonlink.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. You guys should read the threads on the Moto list. Lot of people tired of the way the company is doing it's customers. And tired of testing beta software full of bugs with every release. This includes us. A Powercode customer of 2 years. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Marlon, I looked at Intrameta and PowerCode and chose PowerCode for bang for buck. You really should look at them. It has its faults, but it's like a drug that we can't do without. It handles alot for us. Do a demo one day and check it out. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop, Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 http://www.unwiredwest.com 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. http://intrameta.com/ They are a vendor member and good guys. I've talked to them (David Wilson got us hooked up) quite a bit. It sounds like they have a nice system. But the costs are higher than I can justify at this point and last I talked to them they didn't have a billing mechanism in place. marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi Marlon, In no particular order, here's a list of some of the more popular ISP/WISP billing packages that we see in the market Platypus/Tucows PowerCode Rodopi BillMax Freeside Emerald / IEA Software Every package has their strengths and weaknesses -- ultimately, it comes down to personal preference and business processes to see what's a best fit Whatever it is that you end up with...be sure to check out ip pay (www.ippay.com) for your back-end payments =) -Charles P.S. -- in all seriousness -- QuickBooks does a really good job of hosing merchants (especially ISPs) on their payment processing -- we actually just helped another ISP/WISP pay for a new billing system with the $400 / month we were saving when they switched from QuickBooks Merchant Services to IP Pay -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: memb...@wispa.org; Odessa Office 509-982-2181 Subject: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet
[WISPA] Stimulus money - best way to make long term use of it?
I've been putting some thought in to the idea of how best to use stimulus money or even obtain any of it for the average WISP. The buzz words that get the politicians happy and make them jump through hoops to give you money seem to be public/private partnerships, shovel ready projects, and fiber. If WISP's were to make contact with their local city and county government agencies, they might find some sort of fiber projects in the works. Typically these are to connect schools and government buildings together. If a WISP were to partner up with them and bring in the element of taking that fiber speed and bringing affordable bandwidth to the general public, the fiber projects gain a lot more traction in the eyes of the folks giving out the money. As a WISP, especially in the rural markets, long term access to affordable bandwidth will be key to survival. While your wireless over the air equipment and technology may change every few years, the desire for the bandwidth to the internet will not change, and an investment in fiber backhaul will be easy to justify for more than 24 months. Major backhaul to rural communities is a serious project to undertake and requires a lot of money. This I believe is one of the key focus elements to bringing broadband to the masses. Even if a public private partnership did nothing more than give you dark fiber that reaches back to markets where you can buy cheap bandwidth, it would be something you might not be able to achieve on your own. Having access to good reasonable priced bandwidth might also help justify small pockets of fiber to the home efforts in small communities where it might now make sense. Putting some of your densely located customers on fiber might also allow you to squeeze more out of your wireless system. I guess what I am trying to say is that WISP's should be looking at long term investment in infrastructure that will serve a changing industry for 10 to 20 years. You can bet that is what the Telco and cable operators are doing. This type of effort might also be just the thing to do together with other WISP's in an area. Thank You, Brian Webster WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GridConnect EISK8 Switch
Anyone here ever used any devices from this line? Looks like a nice industrial switch, but I don't know anything about the company. -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Hi All I was wondering if anybody has experience with the Logisense product. I see that many are using Platypus so I was wondering how it compares to the Logisense. Thank you Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet info into word doc and store in customer folder. Generate installation work order. Fill out check list showing what steps have been completed. This has worked nicely in the past and only takes about 30 minutes to accomplish. But now we're growing too fast and have gotten too big to maintain this. Between tech support calls etc. the office manager is having to bring in extra help. It's only a day per week and it's good for there to be two people there at least part of the time. No one should work alone all of the time. Plus, if she wants to take some time off she will have someone trained in the basics so we'll likely need to keep some extra help around no matter what. This mechanism also gives us a lot of double checks, redundant data points etc. With Access and Quickbooks we can run a very nice mix of reports etc. We do NOT have a customer trouble ticket mechanism other than the file on them. We don't track customers on a per call basis. That's not too bad because we're still small enough that we can normally remember problem customers. This would probably be a good time to change everything though. In my perfect world, I'd have a billing system (that handles all of the taxes for different communities etc.), trouble ticketing, auto server configuration AND deconfig. I'd want good reporting capabilities. I've looked at some of the commercial systems out there, but at $1 or more per month per sub for a full blown system I'd rather keep putting that money into the local labor pool. Freeside looks pretty good but I don't do programming or server admin work in-house. I don't mind hiring someone to set it all up etc. and to take care of the server. But it has to be an affordable solution too. What are people using? Do you like it? If you had it to do all over again, what would you do? Vendors please feel free to hit me up. marlon 509.988.0260 Or talk to Apryl in the office 509.982.2181, she'll know more about what she does day in and day out. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Both Platypus and Wombat run on Windows NT server. Is there anything out there that will run on a Linux server? or on the PC as a straight client app? Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Jason Hensley wrote: Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Population density map
Is there a way to get a population density map that has more resolution than by county? Interested in Northern Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Population density map
Mike, Send me an area of interest drawn in Google Earth and I will make you one based on census blocks. I can make it either by population or household density, your choice. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Population density map Is there a way to get a population density map that has more resolution than by county? Interested in Northern Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Population density map
I figured you'd have something for me. Thanks. I'd imagine household density would be what a WISP would be after. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Population density map Mike, Send me an area of interest drawn in Google Earth and I will make you one based on census blocks. I can make it either by population or household density, your choice. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Population density map Is there a way to get a population density map that has more resolution than by county? Interested in Northern Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
For those of you using QuickBooks. Look at http://www.thebillingsoftware.com/new/isp.htm This is a very simple billing system. Limited in some aspects but able to easily Bill all 400 of my clients in 5 min. sending emails receipts and many other features. It is not Perfect nor will it integrate with much. Simple windows (access) billing system. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
We currently use QuickBooks - I believe the billing person likes it for it's simplicity. We are trying to move to PowerCode, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Kralovec pkralo...@unpluggedcities.com wrote: One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Platypus is probably the best of the lot. Good support, very easy to self-extend in terms of auto-provisioning, very powerful, and good interface. Also includes helpdesk / etc... so it's a single, well integrated package. Very stable and reliable as well. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Kralovec pkralo...@unpluggedcities.com wrote: One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
I use Quickbooks for my store side (computer sales, repairs, etc). I can't imagine trying to use it for my ISP side billing. What nightmare that would be!! Marlon, what you mentioned you go through in provisioning for a new customer when they sign up that you said takes 30 minutes or so, well, it takes us about 2 minutes with Platypus - just to put that into perspective for you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. We currently use QuickBooks - I believe the billing person likes it for it's simplicity. We are trying to move to PowerCode, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Kralovec pkralo...@unpluggedcities.com wrote: One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Same here with PowerCode. I'm interested in seeing how Platypus differs from PowerCode. I keep hearing about it. I don't want to change, as it is painful, but if there's something better for us in the long-term we should at least consider it. We like PowerCode for its customer service features, scheduling of service calls and installs, billing, etc. Since everything is integrated around one customer account, this software allows our person who answers the phone to not only be a tech support person, but can take a payment from a customer, check phone logs, ticket logs, check the schedule to see when we're supposed to be there, anything. There are detailed logs of most transactions that take place, and those logs are exposed on the main customer screen (it logs details such as if you change their phone number...who made the change, when the change was made, from phone # what to new phone #). It logs emails you send out through the system such as delinquent account notifications, support broadcasts, etc. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley jhens...@mozarks.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. I use Quickbooks for my store side (computer sales, repairs, etc). I can't imagine trying to use it for my ISP side billing. What nightmare that would be!! Marlon, what you mentioned you go through in provisioning for a new customer when they sign up that you said takes 30 minutes or so, well, it takes us about 2 minutes with Platypus - just to put that into perspective for you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. We currently use QuickBooks - I believe the billing person likes it for it's simplicity. We are trying to move to PowerCode, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Kralovec pkralo...@unpluggedcities.com wrote: One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] fcc logo
What exactly does the FCC logo (captial F, capital C, lowercase C inside the big C) mean on a piece of electronics? I've got a circuit board here (not a radio, but a networking device) with the FCC logo on it and am wondering how to find out it's certification information if that's important. Does it mean it's been certified and should be able to be found in the FCC equipment authorization search by it's maker's grantee code? Does it mean it meets fcc standards but isn't necessarily filed with the FCC? -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] fcc logo
It means that the device has been tested and will not interfere with other electronics with spurious emissions and such. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:52 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] fcc logo What exactly does the FCC logo (captial F, capital C, lowercase C inside the big C) mean on a piece of electronics? I've got a circuit board here (not a radio, but a networking device) with the FCC logo on it and am wondering how to find out it's certification information if that's important. Does it mean it's been certified and should be able to be found in the FCC equipment authorization search by it's maker's grantee code? Does it mean it meets fcc standards but isn't necessarily filed with the FCC? -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Colocation
I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
Mark McElvy wrote: I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. What does managed by us mean? If you're just providing power and bandwidth, just see what colo facilities in your market charge and make your prices comparable. If you're providing remote-hands and such, especially with 24x7 support and a reasonable guarantee (30 minutes or it's free) charge a LOT more. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
Local competition? Why does he want them hosted? On 3/23/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:42:46AM -0400, Martha Huizenga wrote: Both Platypus and Wombat run on Windows NT server. Is there anything out there that will run on a Linux server? or on the PC as a straight client app? http://www.freeside.biz/freeside/ -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
I'm thinking $75/U or so with some markup on the electric usage... remember that if they have a 15 amp circuit, to charge for 30, since it'll take another 10 amps of juice to run the AC to cool it. Then a markup on your bandwidth costs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
We price on sustained bandwidth and power. If you don't break out power at least stick a clause in the agreement that gives you the ability to pass power increases or green taxes if they come about. Richey -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
Define unlimited Please ... John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
$99 for the 2 U probably is fair or a sweet local trade up for the managed part of the service. How much do you charge them for the managed by us service? What are you managing managing managing... John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
Unlimited = no limit. We have 465Mbps to the internet backbone via three OC3's. We provide a UPS with a generator backup, an A/C controlled room, an ethernet port, and unlimited bandwidth. We figure our "outgoing" traffic is free, because we currently run at 75% incoming bandwidth vs outgoing. Power for a loaded 1u server costs about $10/month (we currently pay $.04 per kwh). The generator we have to have for our own NOC, along with the A/C unit. Travis Microserv John Rock wrote: Define unlimited Please ... John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
At what point do you discount 1u's of rack space? Or is that flat fee structure regardless of customer volume? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth
My question would be, is there anyone doing glass from the Carrier hotel to the edge of town? If you were able to get fiber on the edge of Spokane, wouldn't it save you a few towers? I wish it weren't top secret as to where the fiber is. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go somewhere ( website) and see who has glass and where? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if many on this list were within spittin' distance of glass. John Marlon K. Schafer wrote: It's the economies of it all in so many places. Many areas will require the construction of 100+ foot towers. At what, $10 to $20k per tower (complete install), even for a small one that won't hold many antennas. Then there are hills, mountains, permitting issues etc. I know I can get a fiber connection to Spokane and I can get it fairly cheaply. But it's still 3 to 4x what I'm paying for my bandwidth today. Just for the loop, forget the cost of data, no matter how cheap, from there. I asked Century Tel what it would cost to rent dark fiber from them. They laughed at me. Spokane is only 75 or so miles from here. But I'd need 1 hop to get out of town, at least 5 or 6 to get to the edge of Spokane, then 2 or 3 more to get down to the telco hotel there. IF I could even get BW on the roof (probably could but I don't know what the cost per month would be). We all look at these options all of the time. I just got the last bit of hardware that I'll need to link my Grant Co. and Lincoln Co. networks together. This will give me the ONLY backup link into Odessa. It'll also give me access to cheaper bandwidth here (after I upgrade to better faster backhauls on all of the towers between the two networks). We'll get there eventually. marlon - Original Message - From: Harold Bledsoe hbled...@deliberant.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth Those of you that are paying $50/Mbps, what is keeping you from building your own backhaul to cheaper bandwidth (wireless, dark fiber, etc.)? It seems to me that this would be a major consideration in the business plan as this is a big MRC. Don't wait for someone to bring you cheap bandwidth...go get it! :-) -Hal WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
Hi Travis, I know a few adult guys that will push anything you give them would be thrilled to meet you and your unlimited plan at $75 / month / server =) -Charles From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation Unlimited = no limit. We have 465Mbps to the internet backbone via three OC3's. We provide a UPS with a generator backup, an A/C controlled room, an ethernet port, and unlimited bandwidth. We figure our outgoing traffic is free, because we currently run at 75% incoming bandwidth vs outgoing. Power for a loaded 1u server costs about $10/month (we currently pay $.04 per kwh). The generator we have to have for our own NOC, along with the A/C unit. Travis Microserv John Rock wrote: Define unlimited Please ... John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
