Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers
I have also seen improvements during periods of rain and fog. Not sure why but it is noticable. Signal even seems to be stronger during rain. I am in a very congested area and have 900 MHz delivering 1.5/1 to police cars working in a place that has scada and other noise in a very close proximity to my ap's. But doing this I learned a lot about what works and what doesn't. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:57 PM, "Robert West" wrote: > "Variable Success". I love it! > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of MDK > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers > > Been using 900 with variable success for about 4 years now. > Started with > SR-9's and now have XR9 / STar-OS gear deployed. Love it. It's > almost as > > fast as 5 gig, for a given channel size, and is incredibly better at > tree > penetration than is 2.4 or 5 gig. > > It has limited application, due to noise being so prevalent, but > where it's > appropriate, it easily delivers 2x2meg to the customer @ 10 > customers / 5 > mhz AP with capacity to spare.It's freaky picky, with environment > changes like rain, humidity, snow, fog, etc.Rain, snow, fog, ice > all > IMPROVE forest penetration. > > Longest production use is customers @ 6 miles. > > Otherwise, it's normally deployed in dense forest and limited to > about 1 > mile or 2 if you have plenty of open space, not dense forest. > > Noise? There's oodles of noise generators out there, often making > up to > 1/2 the band unusable, even in rural areas. > > > > > ++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++ > > -- > From: "Jack Unger" > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:28 PM > To: "WISPA General List" ; > Subject: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers > >> Please contact me offline if you >> >> a) If you have long-time 900 MHz deployment experience and consider >> yourself a 900 MHz pioneer, or >> >> b) If you have extensive experience tracking down and solving 900 MHz >> interference problems. >> >> Thanks, >> >> jack >> 818-227-4220 >> jun...@ask-wi.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >> Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the >> Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since >> 1993 >> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers
Well, it sure sounds better than... 'It works when it wants to.' Robert West wrote: "Variable Success". I love it! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers Been using 900 with variable success for about 4 years now. Started with SR-9's and now have XR9 / STar-OS gear deployed. Love it. It's almost as fast as 5 gig, for a given channel size, and is incredibly better at tree penetration than is 2.4 or 5 gig. It has limited application, due to noise being so prevalent, but where it's appropriate, it easily delivers 2x2meg to the customer @ 10 customers / 5 mhz AP with capacity to spare.It's freaky picky, with environment changes like rain, humidity, snow, fog, etc.Rain, snow, fog, ice all IMPROVE forest penetration. Longest production use is customers @ 6 miles. Otherwise, it's normally deployed in dense forest and limited to about 1 mile or 2 if you have plenty of open space, not dense forest. Noise? There's oodles of noise generators out there, often making up to 1/2 the band unusable, even in rural areas. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:28 PM To: "WISPA General List" ; Subject: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers Please contact me offline if you a) If you have long-time 900 MHz deployment experience and consider yourself a 900 MHz pioneer, or b) If you have extensive experience tracking down and solving 900 MHz interference problems. Thanks, jack 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers
"Variable Success". I love it! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers Been using 900 with variable success for about 4 years now. Started with SR-9's and now have XR9 / STar-OS gear deployed. Love it. It's almost as fast as 5 gig, for a given channel size, and is incredibly better at tree penetration than is 2.4 or 5 gig. It has limited application, due to noise being so prevalent, but where it's appropriate, it easily delivers 2x2meg to the customer @ 10 customers / 5 mhz AP with capacity to spare.It's freaky picky, with environment changes like rain, humidity, snow, fog, etc.Rain, snow, fog, ice all IMPROVE forest penetration. Longest production use is customers @ 6 miles. Otherwise, it's normally deployed in dense forest and limited to about 1 mile or 2 if you have plenty of open space, not dense forest. Noise? There's oodles of noise generators out there, often making up to 1/2 the band unusable, even in rural areas. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:28 PM To: "WISPA General List" ; Subject: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers > Please contact me offline if you > > a) If you have long-time 900 MHz deployment experience and consider > yourself a 900 MHz pioneer, or > > b) If you have extensive experience tracking down and solving 900 MHz > interference problems. > > Thanks, > > jack > 818-227-4220 > jun...@ask-wi.com > > > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the > Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since > 1993 > www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com > > > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
I usually use a hammer and sometimes a steel toed boot. This, however, seems to be a superior method. I have taken it under advisement and have outfitted all technicians with automatic weapons. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Fixed the problem right up, didn't it! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > How many TR 6000's do you want for your AP's? > > bawhahahahahahaha > > One of these days I'm gonna remember to take a video cam along and > toss one out of the 65' bucket truck! > I sure wish I had this guy's "tool" for fixing crappy hardware! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6HR35fBDU > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios > for sale, please contact me. We are switching to 10mhz channels and > I have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out. > > I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot > easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, > and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than > a Ubiquiti radio. > > Matt Larsen > mlar...@vistabeam.com > > > On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> An NS2 is $80 list. >> >> I think most will agree it is superior, too. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts. >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom >> DeReggi >> wrote: >> $100 >>> I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that >>> gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. >>> Maybe even less. >>> Why buy old/used Wifi? >>> Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. >>> >>> Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be >>> lucky to get $50, on the high side. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Sara Gray" >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM >>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >>> >>> >>> Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ >
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
We use them as an AP antenna, connecting to client devices that are located close to each other, but miles from the AP. They work really well in that scenario. I bought a bunch of them on Ebay at a greatly reduced price. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. 700 for a customer antenna? On 6/15/10, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Eje Gustafsson > wrote: >> The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. >> Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew >> dish >> that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the >> metal cap. > > That explains why the signal level never showed a decent change. They > do pick up a lot more noise with out them. > >> >> For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a >> much >> more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. >> I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years >> back >> and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. > > Maybe it took longer for my vendor to start shipping the mounts? I > have only used the 26 and 29db units and they are spot on to > radio mobile, give or take a few db. I assume that is due to slightly > miss aimed and/or the radios natural variance. Once in, they > pretty much stay there. > >> >> The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm >> amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT >> designed for 2.4GHz. >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small >> groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The >> Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the >> horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and >> are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but >> they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really >> start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. >> The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the >> feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. >> The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on >> pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker >> metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. >> Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a >> dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I >> move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap >> grid, now buying the better one. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >>> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig >>> systems >>> out here. >>> >>> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. >>> >>> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a >>> bit. >>> >>> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then >> complain >>> about the time you spend. >>> >>> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have >> over >>> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care >>> of >>> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! >>> >>> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >>> >>> >>> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 >>> >>> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the >>> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously >>> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same >>> feeds as the linked one. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >>> >>> wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a >> comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have tw
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Are you talking 5Ghz? On 6/15/10, MDK wrote: > I'm real happy with the 23 db panels from Arc Wireless. Slightly better > RSSI than a 25 db PacW grid. > > Not expensive, but the mounts are kinda hokey. > > > > > ++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++ > > -- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:38 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > >> I've always hated the Pac grids. >> >> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >> LESS >> rssi than others I've used. >> >> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a >> comparable >> product? >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> >> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >> links. I use the Pac grids. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: >>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> $100 >> > I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that > gain > (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even > less. > Why buy old/used Wifi? > Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. > > Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be > lucky > to > get $50, on the high side. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sara Gray" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > >> Tranzeo CPQ 19f >> >> >> >> We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. >> Hoping >> they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sara Gray >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >>
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
I'm real happy with the 23 db panels from Arc Wireless. Slightly better RSSI than a 25 db PacW grid. Not expensive, but the mounts are kinda hokey. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Marlon K. Schafer" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:38 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > I've always hated the Pac grids. > > They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB > LESS > rssi than others I've used. > > I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this > week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a > comparable > product? > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big > links. I use the Pac grids. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: >> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >> >> Regards >> Michael Baird >>> An NS2 is $80 list. >>> >>> I think most will agree it is superior, too. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi >>> wrote: >>> > $100 > I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Sara Gray" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > Tranzeo CPQ 19f > > > > We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. > Hoping > they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. > > > > > > Sara Gray > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists
Re: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers
Been using 900 with variable success for about 4 years now. Started with SR-9's and now have XR9 / STar-OS gear deployed. Love it. It's almost as fast as 5 gig, for a given channel size, and is incredibly better at tree penetration than is 2.4 or 5 gig. It has limited application, due to noise being so prevalent, but where it's appropriate, it easily delivers 2x2meg to the customer @ 10 customers / 5 mhz AP with capacity to spare.It's freaky picky, with environment changes like rain, humidity, snow, fog, etc.Rain, snow, fog, ice all IMPROVE forest penetration. Longest production use is customers @ 6 miles. Otherwise, it's normally deployed in dense forest and limited to about 1 mile or 2 if you have plenty of open space, not dense forest. Noise? There's oodles of noise generators out there, often making up to 1/2 the band unusable, even in rural areas. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:28 PM To: "WISPA General List" ; Subject: [WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers > Please contact me offline if you > > a) If you have long-time 900 MHz deployment experience and consider > yourself a 900 MHz pioneer, or > > b) If you have extensive experience tracking down and solving 900 MHz > interference problems. > > Thanks, > > jack > 818-227-4220 > jun...@ask-wi.com > > > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing > Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since > 1993 > www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I found a spreadsheet online that let you calculate the slots and positions, and designed my own radiating element. Never had the money to do that kind of testing, but our seat of the pants "best guess" is about 18-19 db. I redid the radiating element a few times, finding it was poorly tuned when moving up or down the frequency range tended to kill the gain (rssi). My most distant client has been in excess of 29 miles. currently ,ti's about 26 or so now. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:51 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > 6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. > This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna > Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both > the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have > some nice electrical downtilt built in. > > Cameron > > >> 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? >> >> That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at >> best? >> >> Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made >> completely >> out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. >> >> Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole >> drilled >> for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. >> >> Sealed with only black tape. >> >> So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there >> was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. >> >> No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that >> never >> did work right :-) >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cameron Crum" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? >> >> >>> Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for >>> 7years. >>> Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. >>> This >>> one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar >>> to >>> those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we >>> neede >>> H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and >>> Hpol >>> 5 >>> GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have >>> a >>> couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted >>> some. >>> I >>> don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we >>> didn't >>> do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've >>> attached >>> the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF >>> aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is >>> on >>> the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both >>> have >>> the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the >>> fronts. >>> >>> Cameron >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito >>> wrote: >>> I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that " our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector" Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Chuck Profito" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > probably a ruckus on the other end > > -Original Message- > From: wi
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
700 for a customer antenna? On 6/15/10, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. >> Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew >> dish >> that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the >> metal cap. > > That explains why the signal level never showed a decent change. They > do pick up a lot more noise with out them. > >> >> For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a >> much >> more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. >> I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years >> back >> and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. > > Maybe it took longer for my vendor to start shipping the mounts? I > have only used the 26 and 29db units and they are spot on to > radio mobile, give or take a few db. I assume that is due to slightly > miss aimed and/or the radios natural variance. Once in, they > pretty much stay there. > >> >> The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm >> amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT >> designed for 2.4GHz. >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small >> groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The >> Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the >> horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and >> are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but >> they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really >> start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. >> The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the >> feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. >> The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on >> pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker >> metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. >> Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a >> dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I >> move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap >> grid, now buying the better one. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >>> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig >>> systems >>> out here. >>> >>> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. >>> >>> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a >>> bit. >>> >>> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then >> complain >>> about the time you spend. >>> >>> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have >> over >>> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care >>> of >>> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! >>> >>> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >>> >>> >>> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 >>> >>> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the >>> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously >>> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same >>> feeds as the linked one. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >>> wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a >> comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: > Not as
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
The nearest possible clients to this site are 4 miles, and most are at 10 to 20 miles. Nope, never had any real interference issues, and I'm definitely not over EIRP limits. I got my space planted first, and everyone else moved around me. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Marlon K. Schafer" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:52 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > What that really means is that you are likely running far too large of an > antenna. > > You're also going to find yourself interfering with your own network far > more than is healthy with things that run this way! > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "MDK" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > > >> This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several >> backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. >> >> After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make >> sure >> I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything >> (messing >> with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a >> netbook. >> Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi >> card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to "any" so it simply >> associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and >> after >> I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened >> google >> on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning >> things >> were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about >> 30KB/s >> speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the >> netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. >> >> So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access >> point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp >> had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. >> >> It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the >> netbook. >> >> I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop >> (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, >> but >> this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, >> dhcp >> assignment, and transfer data. >> >> >> >> >> ++ >> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Z-Com GZ-901 card. I have been meaning to experiment with the card that comes in a Tranzeo radio to see if it will work as well (I assume it will). Right now, it seems like the MT AP has improved the latency by about 50%, and it is very nice to have queues, radius authentication, routing and a dhcp server in the AP. It is not the cure all that I was hoping for, however. I might try to swap out a few Tranzeos to MT CPE with Nstreme running to see if that fixes some of the latency issues we keep coming across with 900mhz. The occasional 1 second ping times are not a lot of fun. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 6/15/2010 2:14 AM, Blair Davis wrote: > MikroTik AP with Tranzeo CPE... on 900MHz??!?!??! > > What radio card in the MikroTik AP? > > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >> I don't use Tranzeos for APs - except for 900mhz and they will soon be >> replaced with Mikrotik, which seems to work well with Tranzeo 900mhz CPEs. >> >> Save some of your blowing up anger for some Smartbridges stuff. I have >> a few of those that I'd love to drop from a tower. >> >> Matt Larsen >> vistabeam.com >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. > Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew dish > that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the > metal cap. That explains why the signal level never showed a decent change. They do pick up a lot more noise with out them. > > For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a much > more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. > I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years back > and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. Maybe it took longer for my vendor to start shipping the mounts? I have only used the 26 and 29db units and they are spot on to radio mobile, give or take a few db. I assume that is due to slightly miss aimed and/or the radios natural variance. Once in, they pretty much stay there. > > The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm > amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT > designed for 2.4GHz. > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small > groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The > Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the > horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and > are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but > they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really > start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. > The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the > feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. > The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on > pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker > metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. > Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a > dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I > move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap > grid, now buying the better one. > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: >> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems >> out here. >> >> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. >> >> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a >> bit. >> >> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then > complain >> about the time you spend. >> >> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have > over >> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of >> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! >> >> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> >> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 >> >> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the >> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously >> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same >> feeds as the linked one. >> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >>> I've always hated the Pac grids. >>> >>> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >>> LESS >>> rssi than others I've used. >>> >>> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >>> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a > comparable >>> product? >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >>> >>> >>> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >>> links. I use the Pac grids. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird > An NS2 is $80 list. > > I think most
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
If you really want to get serious on 2.4 use one of these: http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=66529&eventPage=1 which totally blow away anything else we've tried. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Eje Gustafsson" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew dish that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the metal cap. For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a much more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years back and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT designed for 2.4GHz. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap grid, now buying the better one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems > out here. > > I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. > > I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a > bit. > > Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then complain > about the time you spend. > > My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have over > 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of > it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! > > Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 > > Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the > cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously > poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same > feeds as the linked one. > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: >> I've always hated the Pac grids. >> >> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >> LESS >> rssi than others I've used. >> >> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable >> product? >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> >> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >> links. I use the Pac grids. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts." >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: >>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that co
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew dish that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the metal cap. For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a much more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years back and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT designed for 2.4GHz. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap grid, now buying the better one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems > out here. > > I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. > > I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a > bit. > > Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then complain > about the time you spend. > > My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have over > 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of > it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! > > Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 > > Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the > cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously > poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same > feeds as the linked one. > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: >> I've always hated the Pac grids. >> >> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >> LESS >> rssi than others I've used. >> >> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable >> product? >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> >> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >> links. I use the Pac grids. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts. >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: >>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> $100 >> > I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that > gain > (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even > less. > Why buy old/used Wifi? > Atleast not in
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap grid, now buying the better one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems > out here. > > I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. > > I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a > bit. > > Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then complain > about the time you spend. > > My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have over > 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of > it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! > > Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 > > Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the > cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously > poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same > feeds as the linked one. > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: >> I've always hated the Pac grids. >> >> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >> LESS >> rssi than others I've used. >> >> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable >> product? >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. >> >> >> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >> links. I use the Pac grids. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: >>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> $100 >> > I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that > gain > (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even > less. > Why buy old/used Wifi? > Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. > > Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be > lucky > to > get $50, on the high side. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sara Gray" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. > > > >> Tranzeo CPQ 19f >> >> >> >> We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. >> Hoping >> they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sara Gray >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I'd like to take credit for all of it, but my partner who has been designing antennas of one kind or another for more than 50 years now actually came up with the optimized slot pattern. I took that, had it machined, and then optimized the feed position and length so we didn't have to use tuning screws to get it right. The whole thing was adapted form an array of slotted waveguides that he designed as part of the ILS system for airplanes. He's one smart cookie. I've learned more from him than I ever learned in engineering school. Cameron On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Impressive! > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > > > >6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. > > This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna > > Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both > > the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have > > some nice electrical downtilt built in. > > > > Cameron > > > > > >> 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? > >> > >> That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at > >> best? > >> > >> Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made > >> completely > >> out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. > >> > >> Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole > >> drilled > >> for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. > >> > >> Sealed with only black tape. > >> > >> So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, > there > >> was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. > >> > >> No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that > >> never > >> did work right :-) > >> > >> marlon > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Cameron Crum" > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > >> > >> > >>> Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for > >>> 7years. > >>> Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. > >>> This > >>> one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very > similar > >>> to > >>> those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we > >>> neede > >>> H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and > >>> Hpol > >>> 5 > >>> GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I > have > >>> a > >>> couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted > >>> some. > >>> I > >>> don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we > >>> didn't > >>> do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've > >>> attached > >>> the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the > PDF > >>> aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is > >>> on > >>> the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both > >>> have > >>> the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the > >>> fronts. > >>> > >>> Cameron > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito > >>> wrote: > >>> > I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. > > BTW how about a photo and spec on that " our own design and > manufacture > slotted waveguide sector" > > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-Access, Inc. > www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com > Providing Broadband Internet Access to > California's Rural Central Valley > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of MDK > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? > > NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps > anywhere, > and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power > cards, > > either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt > rocketm5 > and solid dishes. ) > > netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access > point > is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, > connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. > > For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started > behaving > strange, and it got replaced. > > > ++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++ > > ---
Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem
We figured it out, tftp was on, no firewalls.. etc.. Not our first rodeo :) Was windows 7 64bit. Just so happens that both me and scott run win 7 64 bit so we both had the same problem. Then for fun tried a windows server 2003 box and all was well. This server 2003 box sits in the same network as scotts computer. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: "Brad Belton" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:26 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem As Travis said make sure you've issued the "tftpd on" command, but also make sure your router isn't blocking or firewalling the traffic from reaching the radios. Do your radios have a valid ipconfig with a good gateway? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:04 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem You turned on tftp on the radio first, right? tftpd on Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: > Maybe I'm doing (or not doing) something simple, but I am unable to tftp > upgrade files to either of the APEX radios on either side of a link. torch > shows my computer trying to connect but no data back from either radio and > tftp command times out without success. > > Current version info below. Tried rebooting, using another computer on > another subnet, turning opmode off etc - nothing works I cannot get the > radio to accept a file via tftp. Any ideas? > > Current > Image Version > FPGA version: 00151209 > OS version: 2p6r14b3D08200901 > FW version: 1p2r2D082009 > PIC version:217 > Modem version: 38 > RFM version:27 > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem
As Travis said make sure you've issued the "tftpd on" command, but also make sure your router isn't blocking or firewalling the traffic from reaching the radios. Do your radios have a valid ipconfig with a good gateway? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:04 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem You turned on tftp on the radio first, right? tftpd on Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: > Maybe I'm doing (or not doing) something simple, but I am unable to tftp > upgrade files to either of the APEX radios on either side of a link. torch > shows my computer trying to connect but no data back from either radio and > tftp command times out without success. > > Current version info below. Tried rebooting, using another computer on > another subnet, turning opmode off etc - nothing works I cannot get the > radio to accept a file via tftp. Any ideas? > > Current > Image Version > FPGA version: 00151209 > OS version: 2p6r14b3D08200901 > FW version: 1p2r2D082009 > PIC version:217 > Modem version: 38 > RFM version:27 > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
MikroTik AP with Tranzeo CPE... on 900MHz??!?!??! What radio card in the MikroTik AP? Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I don't use Tranzeos for APs - except for 900mhz and they will soon be replaced with Mikrotik, which seems to work well with Tranzeo 900mhz CPEs. Save some of your blowing up anger for some Smartbridges stuff. I have a few of those that I'd love to drop from a tower. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 6/14/2010 10:01 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: How many TR 6000's do you want for your AP's? bawhahahahahahaha One of these days I'm gonna remember to take a video cam along and toss one out of the 65' bucket truck! I sure wish I had this guy's "tool" for fixing crappy hardware! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6HR35fBDU marlon - Original Message - From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" To: Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios for sale, please contact me. We are switching to 10mhz channels and I have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out. I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a Ubiquiti radio. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: $100 I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Sara Gray" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: htt
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
I use HyperLink 2.4GHz grids. I've used them for about 10 years now. Tried several other types, but never get the performance or durability... Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems out here. I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a bit. Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then complain about the time you spend. My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have over 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same feeds as the linked one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: $100 I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Sara Gray" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --
