Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
Dont feed the troll :) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Gosh, I just do not understand how some native American peoples could feel so territorial. What's up with that??? Forbes Mercy wrote: Travis, I totally understand since 2003 I have tried to get on tribal hills and unless I piggyback on an existing tower all I can get is we want to do Internet ourselves, I check back in every two to three years, same thing. I should feel lucky they haven't tried to ban us. Forbes On 8/13/2010 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: The reservation in our area put an actual ordinance in effect that bans all outdoor antennas on any structure (including their homes, sheds, garages, barns, etc.). We still do installs there (along with 2 or 3 other providers), but technically they could enforce it. The reason? Because they are going to do their own internet, TV and VoIP solution... they have only been talking about it for almost 6+ years and have not installed a single piece of equipment. They have two nice water towers, and a nice tower up on a 500ft tall butte right in the middle of their area... but they won't allow ANYONE on any of it because they are going to do it. This is the EXACT reason the tribes are SO FAR behind, and can't compete in the real world. They won't allow us to bring them technology that would help all their people. Instead they just built a huge new Tribal headquarters and are trying to get money to build a huge gambling casino. Travis Microserv MDK wrote: I tried to, but it fell through.They chose to spend a HUGE amount of money for Fiber to the curb and try to administer it themselves, rather than about 15% of the cost for me to bring in broadband and maintain it. As far as I know, it has been a disaster, but they're now so invested in it they won't change.This is a very small reservation, and they only wanted to get broadband to the most densely populated part of it. I may still end up putting in wireless to the remote parts, since lots of non-indians live out there. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ *From:* Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 12:28 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org ; motor...@afmug.com *Cc:* 'A Goldman' agold.wispal...@gmail.com *Subject:* [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation I will be attending a Strategy Meeting in New York later this month which is hosted by NABA (Native American Broadband Association and Intersections International). Alex Goldman will be covering these meetings as well. Between now and then, I would like to hear from WISPs across the country that may have worked with Indian tribes in the past or are presently working with them. Part of Alex’s articles will focus on how private ISPs are successfully working with the Indian Nation, however I would also like to hear the downside of anyone’s experiences. NABA has reached out to WISPA to develop alliances and collaboration, both on the lobbying front and the development of public/private partnerships so that many of the grants awarded to the Indian tribes will have a good local ISP partner to assist in the implementation of the projects. If your ISP business is near a reservation, I would like to hear from you in the next week. Respectfully, *Rick Harnish* Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you were) that same outcome has not happened for other races in similar situations in mankind's past history. Maybe there wasn't enough lawyers back in the ancient days? So, in the modern era, it's no longer only the strong survive but rather, only the best lawyer survives? No matter, it would be interesting to be involved with a tribal roll out of a high end network. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 8/13/2010 04:15 PM, lakeland wrote: Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Well, you start by having a big country. Then you get invaded and settled by people with better weapons, and diseases that wipe out 90% of your population. Then wars are fought which kill more of them and take away more land, settled with treaties supposedly guaranteeing them sovereignty on at least limited land. Then the survivors are forced off their land, at least all of the good land, into deserts and small reservations, where they're mistreated for another century. Finally they get good lawyers and lobbyists and open casinos. Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) When you add it all up, I don't really think so. :-( -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
No flaming arrows now! ducking On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Wow. Can we kill this thread now before it erupts in flames? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: YOu have it all wrong. Suppose you live in a land where your culture is incapable of dealing with the rest of the world around it, but the invaders are bleeding hearts who give you land and let you try to continue your incompatible culture unchanged in a world where it is outdated, outmoded and incapable of survival. In which case, the powers that be grant you money to live on while you pretend to pursue the preservation of your dead and unviable culture.It leads to a mess, a huge mess, a world of despondency, want, dependency and hopelessness. Ya'll need to understand that the indian wars were never over land.The ownership culture of the whole rest of the world was irrelevant. Instead, the wars were fought over the idea that the world was being transformed around them, and some believed they should fight it, rather than adjust. IT was a fight over resources - the kind of inter-tribal conflict that had gone on for centuries untold - except it wasn't a fight against another tribe, it was a fight against a culture armed with knowledge, technology, communication, law, and wealth. And neither understood it. Had we handed the western half of the country to the natives and just drew a line around them and made it do not cross boundaries, the failures of the various cultures would still have occurred, and so would have the diseases, and so on.And worse, people with less scruples than the schmucks who wrote treaties with them, would have invaded for the wealth and simply wiped 'em out. Sadly, reservations did nobody any favors, it perpetuated the myth that primitive culture can survive a modern world and that you can mix the two with impunity, using political considerations as the measuring cup. We know that cultures CAN adapt to both the knowledge and science of the world around them, and can adapt to changes in ideas about rights and ownership and written law, etc. Modern indians want the consumer trappings of modern life... while living without the cultural qualities that made it possible to achieve them - or at least the reservation mentality seeks to keep it that way. I've ranted long enough off topic... Let's just leave at this : Reservation mentality and attempts to preserve cultures unchanged are exercises in a level of imbecility so monumental, with results so horrible, it is simply a crime against humanity. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:52 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation At 8/13/2010 04:15 PM, lakeland wrote: Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Well, you start by having a big country. Then you get invaded and settled by people with better weapons, and diseases that wipe out 90% of your population. Then wars are fought which kill more of them and take away more land, settled with treaties supposedly guaranteeing them sovereignty on at least limited land. Then the survivors are forced off their land, at least all of the good land, into deserts and small reservations, where they're mistreated for another century. Finally they get good lawyers and lobbyists and open casinos. Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) When you add it all up, I don't really think so. :-( -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth
Ya, and only allow dsl cable users to use it :) On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote: Host a Linux (Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, ect) Bittorrent seed box? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Already do takes 1-2Mbps at peak times. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Host a server for speedtest.net Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth Ya we currently have over 200Mbps of available outgoing bandwidth available and we already do hosting and co-location. :( Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Servers...game servers, voice (teamspeak/ventrilo) servers...? Maybe help the community with content distribution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Don Grossman d...@willitsonline.com wrote: Hey there As we get larger and larger pipes in to feed our customers what are people doing with the excess outbound capacity? Thanks Don WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
And you would then lose your equipment, your investment and your ass while they smiled and told you how your paperwork was in error. I was given the low down by the common tribal folk. They play both sides of the fence. Once you cross that reservation border, all the rules change and you have no idea what they have changed to. The regular folk are just like you and I but the elders are the greedy money men. Bob- Or He who glows like pig. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you were) that same outcome has not happened for other races in similar situations in mankind's past history. Maybe there wasn't enough lawyers back in the ancient days? So, in the modern era, it's no longer only the strong survive but rather, only the best lawyer survives? No matter, it would be interesting to be involved with a tribal roll out of a high end network. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 8/13/2010 04:15 PM, lakeland wrote: Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Well, you start by having a big country. Then you get invaded and settled by people with better weapons, and diseases that wipe out 90% of your population. Then wars are fought which kill more of them and take away more land, settled with treaties supposedly guaranteeing them sovereignty on at least limited land. Then the survivors are forced off their land, at least all of the good land, into deserts and small reservations, where they're mistreated for another century. Finally they get good lawyers and lobbyists and open casinos. Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) When you add it all up, I don't really think so. :-( -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth
Does it make you any money ? -- Original Message -- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:15:52 -0600 Already do takes 1-2Mbps at peak times. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Host a server for speedtest.net Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 4:05 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth Ya we currently have over 200Mbps of available outgoing bandwidth available and we already do hosting and co-location. :( Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Servers...game servers, voice (teamspeak/ventrilo) servers...? Maybe help the community with content distribution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Don Grossman d...@willitsonline.com mailto:d...@willitsonline.com wrote: Hey there As we get larger and larger pipes in to feed our customers what are people doing with the excess outbound capacity? Thanks Don WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
You could be talking about the Amish. We have three distinct groups here in Iowa. They are prosperous and very clannish. Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation YOu have it all wrong. Suppose you live in a land where your culture is incapable of dealing with the rest of the world around it, but the invaders are bleeding hearts who give you land and let you try to continue your incompatible culture unchanged in a world where it is outdated, outmoded and incapable of survival. ... snip WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding
We've had the same problem even using shielded cable. We've found that we need to wrap the drain wire around the ground lug of both wires to fix the problem. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
At 8/14/2010 02:35 AM, RickG wrote: Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you were) that same outcome has not happened for other races in similar situations in mankind's past history. Maybe there wasn't enough lawyers back in the ancient days? So, in the modern era, it's no longer only the strong survive but rather, only the best lawyer survives? I made a one-paragraph quip in response to another, and the thread went off kilter, so I'm avoiding those side issues now like the plague... No matter, it would be interesting to be involved with a tribal roll out of a high end network. Indeed. The first time I used RadioMobile was several years ago, when the local (Indian) ISP from a tribe in the plains region inquired about putting up a wireless network across the reservation. The total population density was about one person per square mile, with a couple of small towns. Most of the reservation's phone service, mainly the biggest town, came from an off-reservation coop and the Indians didn't like them. So we talked about building a WISP network with a CLEC to deliver wireless local loop. The reservation was basically flat with not many trees, ideal wireless country. SkyPilot boxes would have given a 10-mile radius between hops. He would own it; I would be his consultant. But then he stopped returning calls. Another tribe's telco had won 700 MHz licenses in the first (2002) auction, and was doing wireless DOCSIS, and had this guy's reservation in their footprint. So they became the WISP. I assume it's working, since the FCC web site last year showed them inquiring if they would meet the build-out deadline, or lose the license, and they said that they had it up and running on time. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.comfgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 8/13/2010 04:15 PM, lakeland wrote: Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Well, you start by having a big country. Then you get invaded and settled by people with better weapons, and diseases that wipe out 90% of your population. Then wars are fought which kill more of them and take away more land, settled with treaties supposedly guaranteeing them sovereignty on at least limited land. Then the survivors are forced off their land, at least all of the good land, into deserts and small reservations, where they're mistreated for another century. Finally they get good lawyers and lobbyists and open casinos. Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) When you add it all up, I don't really think so. :-( -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at http://ionary.comionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Notes on Int'l Wireless Summit currently underway in Vienna
In addition to the URL provided below, here are notes types from the next 2 days of this conference in Vienna. Day 2 http://bit.ly/cDoAAv Day 3 http://bit.ly/92Xz1F On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: I operate a small, experimental 2.4GHz mesh in St. Louis called WasabiNet, and I was happy I could attend the WISPA conference held here last month. In the course of developing WasabiNet, I received a small grant to travel to the Int'l Summit for Community Wireless currently underway in Vienna ( wirelesssummit.org). Lots of neat people and ideas flitting about here. For those curious, I'm keeping daily notes of the conference here: https://sites.google.com/site/wasabinetwifi/Home/updates/wasabinetatwirelesssummitvienna https://sites.google.com/site/wasabinetwifi/Home/updates/wirelesssummitviennaday2 -- Ben West b...@gowasabi.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik OSPF Problem
I have an RB433AH running ROS3.30. It has been running well for months or longer. Yesterday afternoon it lost the OSPF routes that come in from the backhaul interface. I rebooted. Still no go. It showed 9 potential neighbors in Init state on that interface. It gets neighbors on the wireless AP interface. I power cycled it this morning. Same thing, 9 neighbors in Init state. On of those neighbors is inches away so I put a 3 foot jumper between ether2 on the bad unit to ether2 on the good one. They instantly became neighbors. What do I need to look for on the interface that is not working to get it to go to the next step? By the way, that interface is the link to the Internet for 2 APs and all of the customers on those 2 APs are moving traffic, so it is not a physical interface that is not working. -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding
Shielded cable that is not attached properly to the RJ45 will do nothing but pick up MORE static. We solder the drain wire onto the edge of the RJ45 connector after we crimp it on the wire. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 7:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: We've had the same problem even using shielded cable. We've found that we need to wrap the drain wire around the ground lug of both wires to fix the problem. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding
What if there is no drain wire? On Aug 14, 2010 6:09 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Shielded cable that is not attached properly to the RJ45 will do nothing but pick up MORE static. We solder the drain wire onto the edge of the RJ45 connector after we crimp it on the wire. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 7:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding
I've never seen shielded cable with no drain wire. But I suppose it could exist. Get better cable, with a drain wire. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What if there is no drain wire? On Aug 14, 2010 6:09 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Shielded cable that is not attached properly to the RJ45 will do nothing but pick up MORE static. We solder the drain wire onto the edge of the RJ45 connector after we crimp it on the wire. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 7:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding
The heavy duty Mohawk cable and the Superior Essex cable does not. The latter is Moto ptp suggested cable. On Aug 14, 2010 6:14 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I've never seen shielded cable with no drain wire. But I suppose it could exist. Get better cable, with a drain wire. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What if the... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik OSPF Problem
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 05:15:05PM -0400, Scott Reed wrote: I have an RB433AH running ROS3.30. It has been running well for months or longer. Yesterday afternoon it lost the OSPF routes that come in from the backhaul interface. I rebooted. Still no go. It showed 9 potential neighbors in Init state on that interface. It gets neighbors on the wireless AP interface. I power cycled it this morning. Same thing, 9 neighbors in Init state. On of those neighbors is inches away so I put a 3 foot jumper between ether2 on the bad unit to ether2 on the good one. They instantly became neighbors. What do I need to look for on the interface that is not working to get it to go to the next step? By the way, that interface is the link to the Internet for 2 APs and all of the customers on those 2 APs are moving traffic, so it is not a physical interface that is not working. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a00800949f7.shtml#trouble_neigh_states -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
