Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
On 11/11/2010 08:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: How do you handle support? Custom acd, dial plans, etc. I assume your voip partner implements, but what support is yours to deal with, and where do you hand off at? Ryan We integrated our VoIP partner with our support ticketing system and support call center (gave them VoIP phones and tied them into our Trixbox) so it looks like to the customer that they are just calling/contacting our support team. VoIP hasn't been a problem, but the biggest PIA we see is faxes and credit card machines...modem and VoIP are not great combinations...it works but sometimes can be a pain. Basically we just run VoIP to an ATA at the customer location and then just hand off either an analog or digital line that ties into their existing Key/PBX, so for the customer they really don't see any change except a lower monthly bill. One thing you do need to do is tell the analog customers that they will lose phone if there is no power...amazing how many customers just don't understand that concept; guess a 100 years of running on copper have set thier ways. I won't deny that we sometimes recommend the customer keep one copper line as an emergency if they are concern with loss of phone during power outages. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
I guess that would have been my first 'computer' that I personally bought. Then came the Tandy 1000, traded in my Odessey game console to knock off some from the price tag. -- Original Message -- From: Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com Reply-To: ro...@g5i.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:37:19 -0600 My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
We do pretty much the same thing. If you have a good voip solution you don't get very many calls. We have right at 300 lines and it is not uncommon to go a week or more with no support calls. As a matter of fact with our initial voip provider we had a person on staff just to deal with voip problems. Now we ultimately had to let him go because there was no work for him (it reminded me of the old maytag commercials). We have learned several things about modems, faxes, and credit card machines. We used to try to get all the lines and try to make it work and keep the customer happy. Somewhere in the process I decided that wasn't working and that we were fighting the same problems over and over. I made a new rule for new customers. We do not support analog credit card machines or modems. The customer could keep an analog line for those or switch the credit card machine to an Internet based terminal. 2. On the faxes, if they are a medium to low fax usage customer, our t.38 fax would be ok. If they are a heavy user we charged a little more per month and used faxxbochs. Once we started using this approach we quit having problems and our customers were happier. As far as installs go we install our ata at the customer demarc so to the customer it is no different that Att. Sometimes they don't know we have even switched them over until the tech let's them know. Anything 4 lines or more we use the spa8000's. They are rock solid. I hve several units that have been in service for over two years without a reset. I don't even get calls from those customers. Just a check. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 12, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: On 11/11/2010 08:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: How do you handle support? Custom acd, dial plans, etc. I assume your voip partner implements, but what support is yours to deal with, and where do you hand off at? Ryan We integrated our VoIP partner with our support ticketing system and support call center (gave them VoIP phones and tied them into our Trixbox) so it looks like to the customer that they are just calling/contacting our support team. VoIP hasn't been a problem, but the biggest PIA we see is faxes and credit card machines...modem and VoIP are not great combinations...it works but sometimes can be a pain. Basically we just run VoIP to an ATA at the customer location and then just hand off either an analog or digital line that ties into their existing Key/PBX, so for the customer they really don't see any change except a lower monthly bill. One thing you do need to do is tell the analog customers that they will lose phone if there is no power...amazing how many customers just don't understand that concept; guess a 100 years of running on copper have set thier ways. I won't deny that we sometimes recommend the customer keep one copper line as an emergency if they are concern with loss of phone during power outages. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
At 11/12/2010 12:56 AM, you wrote: I win. HA! I still have my old DEC PDP-11 (actually, a PDT-11/150, with an LSI-11 CPU, 60kB, and two 8-inch floppies). I haven't fired it up in years, but I recently pulled out the 8 floppy case to show some young people. of the iPod generation, what they looked like. It ran (runs?) RT-11. CP/M was based on RT-11 (in the bad imitation sense). MS-DOS was likewise based on CP/M. I stopped using it regularly when I got an Atari ST (Jackintosh). That could run a version of Phil Karn's NET and TOS, so I was able to use it for TCP/IP over packet radio in 1987. 1200 bps semi-Aloha. Its protocol analyzer mode showed every packet going by, and it was slow enough to really study the operation in real time. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portablehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.comforbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.comScott Carullo To: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgWISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: Robert West mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.comrobert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links .. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
I have considered doing this but have not yet implemented. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore, we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms. This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Perhaps I should re-phrase the question... If I re-sell Vox service, do I still need to file FCC Form 499-A Registration, Quarterly FCC Form 499-Q, Annual FCC Form 499-A, E-911 stuff, etc? Do I still have to collect and pay fees/taxes to government? Or is that all taken care of by Vox? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Vox handles all of that for you including taxes. I pass along a regulatory recovery fee that covers my cost along to the customer. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I should re-phrase the question... If I re-sell Vox service, do I still need to file FCC Form 499-A Registration, Quarterly FCC Form 499-Q, Annual FCC Form 499-A, E-911 stuff, etc? Do I still have to collect and pay fees/taxes to government? Or is that all taken care of by Vox? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
We wholesale off of a Broadworks platform. We file the 499. Licenses are $4 to $10 and MOU are sub penny. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Vox handles all of that for you including taxes. I pass along a regulatory recovery fee that covers my cost along to the customer. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I should re-phrase the question... If I re-sell Vox service, do I still need to file FCC Form 499-A Registration, Quarterly FCC Form 499-Q, Annual FCC Form 499-A, E-911 stuff, etc? Do I still have to collect and pay fees/taxes to government? Or is that all taken care of by Vox? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Sweet! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel At 11/12/2010 12:56 AM, you wrote: I win. HA! I still have my old DEC PDP-11 (actually, a PDT-11/150, with an LSI-11 CPU, 60kB, and two 8-inch floppies). I haven't fired it up in years, but I recently pulled out the 8 floppy case to show some young people. of the iPod generation, what they looked like. It ran (runs?) RT-11. CP/M was based on RT-11 (in the bad imitation sense). MS-DOS was likewise based on CP/M. I stopped using it regularly when I got an Atari ST (Jackintosh). That could run a version of Phil Karn's NET and TOS, so I was able to use it for TCP/IP over packet radio in 1987. 1200 bps semi-Aloha. Its protocol analyzer mode showed every packet going by, and it was slow enough to really study the operation in real time. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
OSHA says you should have that stuff anyway, or at least make a note that you do not in your safety plan. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:56:51 -0600 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
If you don't have emergency action plans, get them easily for each site here... www.wirelessestimator.com/emergency/ We input all of our locations, printed them out, laminated them, put them in folders at each site and in a binder in every vehicle. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: OSHA says you should have that stuff anyway, or at least make a note that you do not in your safety plan. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:56:51 -0600 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com *Subject: *[WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Contracts are never for the client. They are always to protect you - the seller. Not completely true. My contract customers get a price break and their rates are locked in. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Contracts are never for the client. They are always to protect you - the seller. Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible for a loss of business - you might think twice. Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-) Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract. Even for our hosting customers its the same. Go figure On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote: Been there. Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a contract, they must know something that you don’t………. We’re family and you are now part of it. If you don’t like the service, call me…… yada, yada, yada. We all bond and it’s all good. Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers. (It’s all marketing) *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Rodgers *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] Service contracts For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Robert, Then you dont offer term discounts? On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Been there. Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a contract, they must know something that you don’t………. We’re family and you are now part of it. If you don’t like the service, call me…… yada, yada, yada. We all bond and it’s all good. Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers. (It’s all marketing) *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Rodgers *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] Service contracts For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel
LOL! OK, now you win by just a few months. I helped a friend build one of those in high school. But I decided to wait for the TRS-80. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: My first was…. Get ready. http://oldcomputers.net/heathkit-h8.html YES! Heath Kit H8. I’m such a geek. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:58 PM *To:* ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OLD COMPUTER Was: UBNT AUTO Channel
Then I switched to using the video tape... On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Gotta luv the data cassette tape. Portable storage, even fit in shirt pocket. It could have been worse, it could have been bulky 8-track :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel
Fred, I think you might win with that one. I remember those but my parents said I was too young for such an expensive hobby. As a side note: I played games such as Star Trek and Zork (no video) on a very old computer when I worked for IBM as a Field Engineer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_360 Had my own little VM partitioned on it for service purposes. Spent a lot of late nights at that customer site! -RickG On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 11/12/2010 12:56 AM, you wrote: I win. HA! I still have my old DEC PDP-11 (actually, a PDT-11/150, with an LSI-11 CPU, 60kB, and two 8-inch floppies). I haven't fired it up in years, but I recently pulled out the 8 floppy case to show some young people. of the iPod generation, what they looked like. It ran (runs?) RT-11. CP/M was based on RT-11 (in the bad imitation sense). MS-DOS was likewise based on CP/M. I stopped using it regularly when I got an Atari ST (Jackintosh). That could run a version of Phil Karn's NET and TOS, so I was able to use it for TCP/IP over packet radio in 1987. 1200 bps semi-Aloha. Its protocol analyzer mode showed every packet going by, and it was slow enough to really study the operation in real time. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
It's funny this thread came up as I was thinking about this the other day. Where do you get the proper rope for a fair price? On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: OSHA says you should have that stuff anyway, or at least make a note that you do not in your safety plan. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:56:51 -0600 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com *Subject: *[WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
Thats the way to do it! And in case you need some incentive: http://www.wirelessestimator.com/generaldoc.cfm?ContentID=9 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: If you don't have emergency action plans, get them easily for each site here... www.wirelessestimator.com/emergency/ We input all of our locations, printed them out, laminated them, put them in folders at each site and in a binder in every vehicle. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: OSHA says you should have that stuff anyway, or at least make a note that you do not in your safety plan. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:56:51 -0600 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com *Subject: *[WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel
At 11/12/2010 11:21 AM, you wrote: Fred, I think you might win with that one. I remember those but my parents said I was too young for such an expensive hobby. As a side note: I played games such as Star Trek and Zork (no video) on a very old computer when I worked for IBM as a Field Engineer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_360http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_360 Had my own little VM partitioned on it for service purposes. Spent a lot of late nights at that customer site! -RickG I'm not sure I win if it's based on purchase date, vs. manufacture date. I was working for DEC in 1982 when the PDTs were put up for sale as part of the employee purchase plan. My group (corporate telecommunications) had been trying to make them work for a couple of years by then, to be a call detail record collector for the company's large fleet of PBXs. The PDTs were apparently built in 1978, with the goal of selling them to the phone companies for embedded applicatons like that. But they didn't work very well. The CDR project never quite worked. So the unsold machines went out of the warehouse to employees. They were bundled with a printer and a video display terminal. The printer was a DECwriter IV, I think -- a serial terminal good for maybe 30 cps. I don't recall if it was 7-pin or 9-pin, but hi-res it wasn't. The VDT was a VT-62. Not the well-known VT-52, but another failed hack. The VT-62 had a very complex form-filling system, kinda like an IBM 3270 in concept, that was meant to be used in a transaction processing system called TRAX-11. That was DEC's biggest failure to date. A PDP-11/45, which handled a couple of dozen normal VT-52 users, could only handle one or two TRAX terminals, if that. So the VT-62s sat in the warehouse gathering dust. A switch on the bottom put them into VT-52 emulation mode, and that's how we used them with RT-11. My most disappointing early computing experience, though, was an early-1960s kit called Brainiac, which had a few wheels with wires and contact points that you could wire together. The ads on kids' TV made it sound like a computer, but it did little more than light a few flashlight bulbs. Very boring. I did play with Wayne Green's Altair in 1975, though, including a phone call to MITS that summer to ask the guy who wrote it how to actually get 4k BASIC running. It was a college kid with a summer job there, fella name of Bill. He never did finish Harvard. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.comfgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 11/12/2010 12:56 AM, you wrote: I win. HA! I still have my old DEC PDP-11 (actually, a PDT-11/150, with an LSI-11 CPU, 60kB, and two 8-inch floppies). I haven't fired it up in years, but I recently pulled out the 8 floppy case to show some young people. of the iPod generation, what they looked like. It ran (runs?) RT-11. CP/M was based on RT-11 (in the bad imitation sense). MS-DOS was likewise based on CP/M. I stopped using it regularly when I got an Atari ST (Jackintosh). That could run a version of Phil Karn's NET and TOS, so I was able to use it for TCP/IP over packet radio in 1987. 1200 bps semi-Aloha. Its protocol analyzer mode showed every packet going by, and it was slow enough to really study the operation in real time. From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portablehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.comScott Carullo To: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgWISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and
Re: [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER Was: UBNT AUTO Channel
I built a big board used a Z80 and had 64kb ram; had four 8 SSSD flops on it. GOt the cabinet and flops from where I worked at the time (racal-Milgo) from stuff that was mothballed. This was circa 1980-1981. leon On 11/12/2010 11:05 AM, RickG wrote: Then I switched to using the video tape... On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Gotta luv the data cassette tape. Portable storage, even fit in shirt pocket. It could have been worse, it could have been bulky 8-track :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
1/2 Kernmantle Rope. Get something with a NFPA rating. Don't skimp and do 7/16 just because of ratings. And don't use it for anything else other than life safety Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2010 16:24:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
While I can understand the practicalities of enforcing a relatively low-dollar value contract, I would point out that there are two very important reasons to consider having term contracts in place: 1) Banks and other lending institutions like to see proof of future cash flows (receivables) as a basis upon which to lend. Having a few hundred contracts that state that the customer has agreed to continue service with you for the next 12 to 24 months goes a long ways towards establishing your credit worthiness. 2) If you were to consider selling your ISP, the purchasing party would likely place a higher value on your customers if those customers were under a term contract versus being month-to-month with no recourse. Regards, Larry E. Yunker II, Esq. (Former WISP) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:57 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
www.midwestunlimited.com Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: 1/2 Kernmantle Rope. Get something with a NFPA rating. Don't skimp and do 7/16 just because of ratings. And don't use it for anything else other than life safety *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From: *RickG rgunder...@gmail.com* To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org * Sent: *Fri, Nov 12, 2010 16:24:44 GMT+00:00* Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
http://oldcomputers.net/zx81.html I ran a BBS on this one! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-804k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
Thanks! That where I bought my harnesses. Was hoping for tip on somewhere with lower prices. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: www.midwestunlimited.com Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: 1/2 Kernmantle Rope. Get something with a NFPA rating. Don't skimp and do 7/16 just because of ratings. And don't use it for anything else other than life safety *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From: *RickG rgunder...@gmail.com* To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org * Sent: *Fri, Nov 12, 2010 16:24:44 GMT+00:00* Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
If you find a place let me know. RescueResponse.com is where I bought our last rope from as well. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! That where I bought my harnesses. Was hoping for tip on somewhere with lower prices. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: www.midwestunlimited.com Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netwrote: 1/2 Kernmantle Rope. Get something with a NFPA rating. Don't skimp and do 7/16 just because of ratings. And don't use it for anything else other than life safety *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From: *RickG rgunder...@gmail.com* To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org * Sent: *Fri, Nov 12, 2010 16:24:44 GMT+00:00* Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel
Yeah, I built it with my Junior Achievement advisor back in high school It didn't do much even then. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! OK, now you win by just a few months. I helped a friend build one of those in high school. But I decided to wait for the TRS-80. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: My first was.. Get ready. http://oldcomputers.net/heathkit-h8.html YES! Heath Kit H8. I'm such a geek. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:58 PM To: ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel
If you still had an Apple-1 Original, it's going from 160k-242k. http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/11/12/apple.computer.auction/index.html?hpt=C1 http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/11/12/apple.computer.auction/index.html?hpt=C1 Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yeah, I built it with my Junior Achievement advisor back in high school…….. It didn’t do much even then. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 11:04 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] OLD COMPUTER WAS: UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! OK, now you win by just a few months. I helped a friend build one of those in high school. But I decided to wait for the TRS-80. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: My first was…. Get ready. http://oldcomputers.net/heathkit-h8.html YES! Heath Kit H8. I’m such a geek. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:58 PM *To:* ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
Remove Sticker in back of Radio Remove 2 Screws Board slides out just like a canopy radio On 11/12/2010 4:30 PM, Matt wrote: Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
Look up ... EZ RJ45 Crimp system made by Platinum tools... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/12/2010 5:41 PM, support wrote: is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
When I spoke to them last (only about 4 weeks ago) Ron Harden said they didn't support hunt groups (the name was eluding me when I first posted to this thread-odd given that hunt groups were fundamental to any ISP for so many years! ;-), though they could do line forwarding. Are you saying Vox DOES support hunt groups? That'd be so odd since Ron is the executive VP or something I thought. That or I'm royally messed up... Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: You have to get them to enable hunting. It's not the same as forwarding. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Yes they do hunt groups. I have most of my business customers with hunt groups. Maybe you are thinking extensions. That they don't have. (hosted PBX). That would take a sip trunk and a trixbox. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 12, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: When I spoke to them last (only about 4 weeks ago) Ron Harden said they didn't support hunt groups (the name was eluding me when I first posted to this thread-odd given that hunt groups were fundamental to any ISP for so many years! ;-), though they could do line forwarding. Are you saying Vox DOES support hunt groups? That'd be so odd since Ron is the executive VP or something I thought. That or I'm royally messed up... Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: You have to get them to enable hunting. It's not the same as forwarding. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
I've had to do this several times 300' in the air. Just grin and bear it. I don't see any way to improve the jacket fitting in. Chris -Original Message- From: support Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:41 PM To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
Magic Crystals. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5 Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
They are also called ring groups... On Nov 12, 2010 6:36 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: When I spoke to them last (only about 4 weeks ago) Ron Harden said they didn't support hunt groups (the name was eluding me when I first posted to this thread-odd given that hunt groups were fundamental to any ISP for so many years! ;-), though they could do line forwarding. Are you saying Vox DOES support hunt groups? That'd be so odd since Ron is the executive VP or something I thought. That or I'm royally messed up... Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: You have to get them to enable hunting. It's not the same as forwarding. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
The biggest problem for me is the sticky gel. I take some isopropyl alcohol wipes up to clean the wires off and that helps a lot. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: I've had to do this several times 300' in the air. Just grin and bear it. I don't see any way to improve the jacket fitting in. Chris -Original Message- From: support Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:41 PM To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
This one is interesting: http://www.digdice.com/ubiquiti-nanostation-5-under-cover-pictures/ On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
Hah! Is that what the M in M5 stands for? On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Magic Crystals. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5 Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
I use flooded/double shielded cable exclusively on every install. It's just a fact of life for us and we just accept it. Once you get the aggravation factor out of the way, it's no big deal. It's the New Norm! J (Everything in the service van is sticky however) But we have never, EVER lost a radio to ESD. Really. NEVER! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable The biggest problem for me is the sticky gel. I take some isopropyl alcohol wipes up to clean the wires off and that helps a lot. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: I've had to do this several times 300' in the air. Just grin and bear it. I don't see any way to improve the jacket fitting in. Chris -Original Message- From: support Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:41 PM To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5
Yes. Of course. Where have you been! DUH! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5 Hah! Is that what the M in M5 stands for? On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Magic Crystals. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Disassemble NanoStation M5 Anyone have photos or know how to disassemble NanoStation M5? Curious whats inside. ;) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
I don't use gel filled. I use Belden 1300A and it doesn't give he much trouble at all. Chris The biggest problem for me is the sticky gel. I take some isopropyl alcohol wipes up to clean the wires off and that helps a lot. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: I've had to do this several times 300' in the air. Just grin and bear it. I don't see any way to improve the jacket fitting in. Chris -Original Message- From: support Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:41 PM To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable
Good stuff me too! On 11/13/2010 12:05 AM, Chris Hudson wrote: I don't use gel filled. I use Belden 1300A and it doesn't give he much trouble at all. Chris The biggest problem for me is the sticky gel. I take some isopropyl alcohol wipes up to clean the wires off and that helps a lot. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: I've had to do this several times 300' in the air. Just grin and bear it. I don't see any way to improve the jacket fitting in. Chris -Original Message- From: support Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:41 PM To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded cable is there a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air on a tower anyone have tips or tricks or know of better fitting ends? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
