Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21

2010-11-15 Thread Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe
I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take too long
and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. Power is an issue
where repeaters are used. Solar would be the preferred option. I also need
to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any ideas?

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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21

2010-11-15 Thread Nick Olsen
Ship hard drives?

On a serious note. To move that kind of bandwidth, Your looking at licensed 
links running the whole way, Multiple Hops. But that will also be quite 
expensive. And the number of hops would depend on how high your sites are.

Also, You said fiber would take to long. Was this doing some sort of 
private link? If you could do it quick enough, You could turn up fiber at 
the site and just tunnel it back to your network. Might have to increase 
the speed on your transit as well.

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From: Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:06 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21

I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take too 
long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. Power is an 
issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the preferred option. I also 
need to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any ideas?

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as technologies ltd.
234(0)8023258027




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Re: [WISPA] 90-mile path (was Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21)

2010-11-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 11/15/2010 04:06 AM, Akinlolu Ajay-Obe wrote:
I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take 
too long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. 
Power is an issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the 
preferred option. I also need to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any ideas?

The obvious answer is to build a microwave link; the trick is to find the path.

An old rule of thumb is that microwave links in the 6 GHz range are 
good for about 30 miles per hop.  This is based on needing very high 
reliability (telephone company backbone links) even with 
weather-related fade.  But it is not a hard limit.

You could theoretically go 90 miles on one hop.  The physics are 
favorable if the path is direct (mountain to mountain) and doesn't 
have extraordinary loss, like rain or trees, or a tropo-ducting event 
going on.  It takes a large antenna, of course.  A 4-foot dish at 5.8 
GHz has a lot of gain!  One watt TPO is a lot of ERP.  Orthogon, now 
part of Motorola, did some moby links that way, including a 100-mile 
or so high-speed link in Central America.  It beats not being on line 
at all, even if it fails 1% of the time (not that it's that 
bad).  But it's not at all likely to give you 99.99% reliability.

Since you're in Nigeria, the climate varies quite a bit and what 
works in the dryer areas might not works so well in the wetter 
ones.  But the main trick is to find a path.  If you could find a 
mountain or tower with real line-of-sight that let you do two 50-mile 
paths, and you could put up big dishes, there are radios that can 
pump 155 Mbps.  Three hops might be easier. But you should spend some 
time with a path calculator.

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[WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Nash
I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free 
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to 
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you using it for?  If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage
and such) Dude is a joke.  If it's for an easy GUI to position things
relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

 Mark





 
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Justin Wilson
Nagios, IMHO, is more scalable. If you are monitoring hundreds to 1000+
units Nagios is a better fit.  There are some Nagios front ends to help with
configuration but they are still clunky compared the The Dude.   If I you
have a few hundred devices go with the Dude.

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From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:30:14 -0800
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark 






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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Nash
We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:

- wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh 
interface responding?
- routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding?
- UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line 
power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding?
- PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding?
- switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding?
- cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into 
Warning, Critical, or Down status)
- linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, 
swap memory usage, total processes, are web  ssh interfaces responding?

Cacti for graphing:

- routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage
- linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage, 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude


  What are you using it for?  If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage 
and such) Dude is a joke.  If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative 
to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark






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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I would personally drop those two and use Xymon.  Tack on Devmon for router
SNMP queries.  Though there could be a script to do it, too.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

  We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:

 - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh
 interface responding?
 - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding?
 - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature,
 line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding?
 - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding?
 - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding?
 - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes
 into Warning, Critical, or Down status)
 - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status,
 swap memory usage, total processes, are web  ssh interfaces responding?

 Cacti for graphing:

 - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage
 - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage,

 - Original Message -
  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 What are you using it for?  If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage
 and such) Dude is a joke.  If it's for an easy GUI to position things
 relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

 Mark





 
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Hensley
One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.  




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Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free 
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to 
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark 






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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:

 One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
 to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that
 pretty
 quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.




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 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

 Mark





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Hensley
Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
versions ago.  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 

I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:

One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





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Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark






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[WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All,

I need a 5 gig omni.  8 or 9 dB.

I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much.  The mount seems to 
place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc.

What are folks using and where do you get them?

Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated 
signal levels.

thanks,
marlon




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[WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Someone please help this guy.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
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I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

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Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Chuck Profito
I have also been looking for a wide band omni,  5.x like 5.1 to 5.9 apx,
where did they go?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

Hi All,

I need a 5 gig omni.  8 or 9 dB.

I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much.  The mount seems to 
place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc.

What are folks using and where do you get them?

Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated 
signal levels.

thanks,
marlon





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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins




What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network? 

Have you looked at NINJA for nagios? 

On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote:

  
  
  
  We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:
  
  - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding?
  - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh
interface responding?
  - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status,
internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet
interface responding?
  - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is
telnet interface responding?
  - switches: up/down, is telnet interface
responding?
  - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs
of a particular AP goes into "Warning", "Critical", or "Down" status)
  - linux server: up/down, current load, current
users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are
web  ssh interfaces responding?
  
  Cacti for graphing:
  
  - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage,
memory usage
  - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load
average, memory usage, 
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Josh Luthman 
To:
WISPA General List 
Sent:
Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude


What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu
usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position
things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark
Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I'd like to hear from people who have switched
from one of these free
products to the other.
  
I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.
  
What did you switch from/to, and why?
  
Thanks !
  
Mark
  
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
No income no jobs no assets?

Couldn't resist...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

  What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network?

 Have you looked at NINJA for nagios?

 On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote:

 We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:

 - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh
 interface responding?
 - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding?
 - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature,
 line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding?
 - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding?
 - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding?
 - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes
 into Warning, Critical, or Down status)
 - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status,
 swap memory usage, total processes, are web  ssh interfaces responding?

 Cacti for graphing:

 - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage
 - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage,

 - Original Message -
  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

  What are you using it for?  If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage
 and such) Dude is a joke.  If it's for an easy GUI to position things
 relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

 Mark





 
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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen
Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401
631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.
707031z=3
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ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.707031z=3

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

 

Someone please help this guy.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: k...@wavelinc.com
Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com
Subject: wavelinc

 

I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Paul Hendry
Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We
do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS
when the back-end database gets to 2GB.

 

  _  

From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] 
Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 

Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
versions ago.  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 

I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
wrote:

One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know
trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that
pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark







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[WISPA] Job Postings or Employment Wanted

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
If you are looking for work in the WISP industry or have a job posting,
please place an ad on the WISPA Classifieds Ads page
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 .  I will send out the notification via
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Re: [WISPA] Job Postings or Employment Wanted

2010-11-15 Thread Rick Harnish
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Re: [WISPA] 90-mile path (was Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21)

2010-11-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
The issue will be height. Remember, the longer the link, the taller the 
freznel zone height requirement will be at the middle of the link.

Tom DeReggi
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- Original Message - 
From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 90-mile path (was Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21)


 At 11/15/2010 04:06 AM, Akinlolu Ajay-Obe wrote:
I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take
too long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work.
Power is an issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the
preferred option. I also need to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any 
ideas?

 The obvious answer is to build a microwave link; the trick is to find the 
 path.

 An old rule of thumb is that microwave links in the 6 GHz range are
 good for about 30 miles per hop.  This is based on needing very high
 reliability (telephone company backbone links) even with
 weather-related fade.  But it is not a hard limit.

 You could theoretically go 90 miles on one hop.  The physics are
 favorable if the path is direct (mountain to mountain) and doesn't
 have extraordinary loss, like rain or trees, or a tropo-ducting event
 going on.  It takes a large antenna, of course.  A 4-foot dish at 5.8
 GHz has a lot of gain!  One watt TPO is a lot of ERP.  Orthogon, now
 part of Motorola, did some moby links that way, including a 100-mile
 or so high-speed link in Central America.  It beats not being on line
 at all, even if it fails 1% of the time (not that it's that
 bad).  But it's not at all likely to give you 99.99% reliability.

 Since you're in Nigeria, the climate varies quite a bit and what
 works in the dryer areas might not works so well in the wetter
 ones.  But the main trick is to find a path.  If you could find a
 mountain or tower with real line-of-sight that let you do two 50-mile
 paths, and you could put up big dishes, there are radios that can
 pump 155 Mbps.  Three hops might be easier. But you should spend some
 time with a path calculator.

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Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Larsen RO5810NF 10dbi Omni with N-Female connector.

On 11/15/2010 10:42 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need a 5 gig omni.  8 or 9 dB.

 I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much.  The mount seems to
 place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc.

 What are folks using and where do you get them?

 Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated
 signal levels.

 thanks,
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[WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any 
wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP 
address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to 
do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or 
something?

WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
etc

All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.

Thanks,

- Matt



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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to 
provide a great answer.. see below:-

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom

-
On 9/17/2010 10:50 AM, Butch Evans wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:11 -0400, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
  I would like to provide/distribute (WIRED) Internet Access in a MDU/MTU
  environment.  I am going to connect each unit to one of the Ethernet
  Ports on the MT.
 
  I would like to have 'client isolation' on all of the users who are
  connected to the Ethernet ports. i.e. I don't want the users to be able
  to talk to each other or see each others traffic. (I don't wish to use
  /30 to assign to each Vlan, need to conserve IP's)
 
  Are you creating a vlan per customer or supplying a physical interface
  for each customer?  It seems that you say both above.  Either way, it
  appears that you are (or will be) bridging either the vlans or ports.
  So just do something like:
 
  /interface bridge settings set use-ip-firewall=yes
 
  /ip firewall filter
  add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
   out-interface=public \
   action=accept
  add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
   action=drop
 
 
  These rules are NOT a complete firewall.  They do, however, illustrate
  how to accomplish what you are looking for.  The rules:
 
  1. Permit traffic entering the router on all interfaces that are not the
  public interface when that traffic will leave on the public
  interface (i.e. internet traffic).
  2. Drop all other traffic that enters the router from any interface that
  is not public (i.e. enter on lan and leave on otherlan).
 
 
-
On 11/15/2010 5:46 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any
 wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP
 address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to
 do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or
 something?

 WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
 WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
 etc

 All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.

 Thanks,

 - Matt


 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP 
address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 
static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?

On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?

 Bridged CPE -  Tik Port1 -  Port2 Cust 1
   -  Port3 Cust 2

 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to
 receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces
 to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.

 Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface.  You'll need to do
vlans.
On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:
 Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP
 address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1
 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?

 On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?

 Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
 - Port3 Cust 2

 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to
 receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces
 to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.

 Thanks,

 - Matt




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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins




In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik

On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need
to do vlans.
  On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, "Matt Jenkins" m...@smarterbroadband.net
wrote:
 Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1
DHCP 
 address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more
than 1 
 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?
 
 On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?

 Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
 - Port3 Cust 2

 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each
customer to
 receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub
interfaces
 to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.

 Thanks,

 - Matt




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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same 
source MAC address.

I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and 
does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not 
meet his requirements.

What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating 
DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify hosts 
so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as the 
client ID would be the identifier between the two.

--
Blake Covarrubias

On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik
 
 On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface.  You'll need to do vlans.
 
 On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:
  Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP 
  address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 
  static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?
  
  On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
  How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?
 
  Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
  - Port3 Cust 2
 
  I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to
  receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces
  to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread chris
You can have multiple pools to dish to people. I do this in my shop, my 
computers that are being worked on get an ip out of the default pool, but I 
set static computers to be dished an ip out of a different pool. For what 
it's worth...

Chris

-Original Message- 
From: Blake Covarrubias
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same 
source MAC address.

I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port 
and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does 
not meet his requirements.

What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating 
DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify 
hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as 
the client ID would be the identifier between the two.

--
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On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik

 On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface.  You'll need to do 
 vlans.

 On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net 
 wrote:
  Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP
  address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1
  static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?
 
  On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
  How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?
 
  Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
  - Port3 Cust 2
 
  I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer 
  to
  receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub 
  interfaces
  to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 17:51 -0500, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: 
 A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to 
 provide a great answer.. see below:-

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik

You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need).

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
Thanks for the reply. None of these wlan interfaces are in a bridge. 
Each is NATed separately

On 11/15/2010 02:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to
 provide a great answer.. see below:-

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom

 -
 On 9/17/2010 10:50 AM, Butch Evans wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:11 -0400, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 I would like to provide/distribute (WIRED) Internet Access in a MDU/MTU
 environment.  I am going to connect each unit to one of the Ethernet
 Ports on the MT.
   
 I would like to have 'client isolation' on all of the users who are
 connected to the Ethernet ports. i.e. I don't want the users to be able
 to talk to each other or see each others traffic. (I don't wish to use
 /30 to assign to each Vlan, need to conserve IP's)
   
 Are you creating a vlan per customer or supplying a physical interface
 for each customer?  It seems that you say both above.  Either way, it
 appears that you are (or will be) bridging either the vlans or ports.
 So just do something like:
   
 /interface bridge settings set use-ip-firewall=yes
   
 /ip firewall filter
 add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
  out-interface=public \
  action=accept
 add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
  action=drop
   
   
 These rules are NOT a complete firewall.  They do, however, illustrate
 how to accomplish what you are looking for.  The rules:
   
 1. Permit traffic entering the router on all interfaces that are not the
 public interface when that traffic will leave on the public
 interface (i.e. internet traffic).
 2. Drop all other traffic that enters the router from any interface that
 is not public (i.e. enter on lan and leave on otherlan).
   
   
 -
 On 11/15/2010 5:46 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any
 wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP
 address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to
 do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or
 something?

 WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
 WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
 etc

 All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.

 Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:46 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: 
 I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any 
 wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP 
 address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to 
 do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or 
 something?
 
 WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
 WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
 etc
 
 All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.

assuming your public interface is ether1, you can do:

/ip firewall filter
add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=ether1 \
comment=permit traffic leaving on ether1 action=accept
add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 action=drop \
comment=don't allow traffic from wlans to talk to each other


Again, this is not a complete firewall application, but it will do
exactly what you want.  You could do the above in one rule as:

add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop

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classes.  Firewall/filter is one of the things we spend a LOT of time
covering.  I dedicate a full day to this topic.  Hit me offlist for more
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
In terms of requests?  Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc
on each bridge?
On Nov 15, 2010 7:00 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik

 You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need).

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
I think Chupaka has posted on the MikroTik forms about having luck doing
by turning RADIUS on for DHCP requests, and then setting up a freeradius
server to handle the assignments.  You can set up freeradius to match
just about anything.  Not the easiest thing in the world, but...

-Kristian

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:33 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same 
 source MAC address.
 
 I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port 
 and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does 
 not meet his requirements.
 
 What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating 
 DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify 
 hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as 
 the client ID would be the identifier between the two.
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
  In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik
  
  On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface.  You'll need to do 
  vlans.
  
  On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:
   Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP 
   address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 
   static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?
   
   On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
   How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?
  
   Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
   - Port3 Cust 2
  
   I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to
   receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces
   to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.
  
   Thanks,
  
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
You cannot add a single interface to multiple bridge's.

My failed solution I provided to Matt did involve adding ether1 to a bridge, 
then setting auto-mac=no and admin-mac on the bridge to something other than 
ether1.

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On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 In terms of requests?  Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc 
 on each bridge?
 
 On Nov 15, 2010 7:00 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
  On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
  In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik
  
  You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need).
  
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I think you guys are overlooking his statement that he does not control the 
DHCP server, and was looking to add multiple DHCP *clients* on a single 
interface using the same MAC in the DHCP requests. 

A few of us have stated multiple times is not currently possible with MikroTik. 
The solution is really to support DHCP client ID's, but as I stated MikroTik 
does not currently have this functionality.

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On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:

 I think Chupaka has posted on the MikroTik forms about having luck doing
 by turning RADIUS on for DHCP requests, and then setting up a freeradius
 server to handle the assignments.  You can set up freeradius to match
 just about anything.  Not the easiest thing in the world, but...
 
 -Kristian
 
 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:33 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same 
 source MAC address.
 
 I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port 
 and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does 
 not meet his requirements.
 
 What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating 
 DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify 
 hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as 
 the client ID would be the identifier between the two.
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
 In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik
 
 On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface.  You'll need to do 
 vlans.
 
 On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:
 Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP 
 address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 
 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address?
 
 On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750?
 
 Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1
 - Port3 Cust 2
 
 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to
 receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces
 to each of cooresponding customer interfaces.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Jenkins
awesome thanks! I didn't realize you could specify a != that simplifies 
a bunch of other filters I have setup before.

On 11/15/2010 04:06 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:46 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any
 wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP
 address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to
 do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or
 something?

 WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
 WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
 etc

 All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.
  
 assuming your public interface is ether1, you can do:

 /ip firewall filter
 add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=ether1 \
  comment=permit traffic leaving on ether1 action=accept
 add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 action=drop \
  comment=don't allow traffic from wlans to talk to each other


 Again, this is not a complete firewall application, but it will do
 exactly what you want.  You could do the above in one rule as:

 add chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop

 FWIW, this is one of the things we cover in GREAT detail in my training
 classes.  Firewall/filter is one of the things we spend a LOT of time
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
 In terms of requests?  Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one
 dhcpc on each bridge?

Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more than one bridge.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Not sure, was a guess.
On Nov 15, 2010 7:42 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
 In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one
 dhcpc on each bridge?

 Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more than one bridge.

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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Nick,

I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this.

/ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address

Works for me. :-)

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On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:

 Nick,
 
 Use regex search.
 
 /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
 
 Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without 
 knowing the netmask?
 For instance
 /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing.
 But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where 
 dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there 
 is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a 
 show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the 
 path(s) it can take and the best one.
 
 And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with 
 telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one 
 up?
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Stuart Pierce
'Just a bit outside' - Bob Euchre

-- Original Message --
From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:20:44 -0500

According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen
Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401
631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.
707031z=3
ie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4
ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.707031z=3

 

Rick

 

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:52 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

 

Someone please help this guy.

 

 

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I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Brad Belton
Neither example worked for me on v3.30.  What version are you running this
command on?

Thanks,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: n...@flhsi.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

Nick,

I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this.

/ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address

Works for me. :-)

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On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:

 Nick,
 
 Use regex search.
 
 /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
 
 Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without
knowing the netmask?
 For instance
 /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing.
 But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where
dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there
is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a
show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the
path(s) it can take and the best one.
 
 And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with
telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one
up?
 
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 Network Operations
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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Brad,

I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1.

--
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On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Neither example worked for me on v3.30.  What version are you running this
 command on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: n...@flhsi.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup
 
 Nick,
 
 I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this.
 
 /ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address
 
 Works for me. :-)
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 Use regex search.
 
 /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
 
 Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without
 knowing the netmask?
 For instance
 /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing.
 But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where
 dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there
 is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a
 show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the
 path(s) it can take and the best one.
 
 And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with
 telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one
 up?
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
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Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

2010-11-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
Contact Country Connections - they might be able to help.
www.CountryConnections.net 




On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:

 3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Brad Belton
Ok, I'll give it a try on a v4.11 box.

Thanks!


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

Brad,

I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1.

--
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On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Neither example worked for me on v3.30.  What version are you running 
 this command on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: n...@flhsi.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup
 
 Nick,
 
 I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this.
 
 /ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address
 
 Works for me. :-)
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 Use regex search.
 
 /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1
 
 --
 Blake Covarrubias
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
 
 Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) 
 without
 knowing the netmask?
 For instance
 /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing.
 But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where
 dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if 
 there is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco 
 you can do a show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route 
 as well as the
 path(s) it can take and the best one.
 
 And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server 
 with
 telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to 
 set one up?
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:10 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: 
 I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1.

This was added in 4.x, IIRC.

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Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas

2010-11-15 Thread Bob Moldashel

WOW!   I remember the days when everyone used to ask you these 
questions..



On 11/15/2010 1:42 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need a 5 gig omni.  8 or 9 dB.

 I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much.  The mount seems to
 place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc.

 What are folks using and where do you get them?

 Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Filters Question

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
These kind of questions get my curiosity up. Is there any advantage to
splitting out multiple backhauls from my main tower to separate interfaces
on my router? Or perhaps even separate routers?
-RickG

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote:

 A while back I had asked a similar question .. Butch was kind enough to
 provide a great answer.. see below:-

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom

 -
 On 9/17/2010 10:50 AM, Butch Evans wrote:
   On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:11 -0400, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
   I would like to provide/distribute (WIRED) Internet Access in a MDU/MTU
   environment.  I am going to connect each unit to one of the Ethernet
   Ports on the MT.
  
   I would like to have 'client isolation' on all of the users who are
   connected to the Ethernet ports. i.e. I don't want the users to be able
   to talk to each other or see each others traffic. (I don't wish to use
   /30 to assign to each Vlan, need to conserve IP's)
  
   Are you creating a vlan per customer or supplying a physical interface
   for each customer?  It seems that you say both above.  Either way, it
   appears that you are (or will be) bridging either the vlans or ports.
   So just do something like:
  
   /interface bridge settings set use-ip-firewall=yes
  
   /ip firewall filter
   add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
out-interface=public \
action=accept
   add chain=forward in-interface=!public \
action=drop
  
  
   These rules are NOT a complete firewall.  They do, however, illustrate
   how to accomplish what you are looking for.  The rules:
  
   1. Permit traffic entering the router on all interfaces that are not the
   public interface when that traffic will leave on the public
   interface (i.e. internet traffic).
   2. Drop all other traffic that enters the router from any interface that
   is not public (i.e. enter on lan and leave on otherlan).
  
  

 -
 On 11/15/2010 5:46 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
  I have 6 virtual wlan interfaces. I want to prevent traffic form any
  wlan interface to reach any other wlan interface. This includes the IP
  address of the wlan interface. Besides creating 42 (I think) filters to
  do this is there any way to group interfaces into a filter template or
  something?
 
  WLAN1 - 10.66.1.1/24
  WLAN2 - 10.66.2.1/24
  etc
 
  All are NATed to a different public IP on eth1.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry 
paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote:

   Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
 network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do
 however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the
 back-end database gets to 2GB.


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 *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com]
 *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40

 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
 versions ago.



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 wrote:

 One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
 to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that
 pretty
 quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
You are lucky.
Regards,

Chuck


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry 
 paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote:

   Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
 network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do
 however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the
 back-end database gets to 2GB.


  --


 *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com]
 *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40

 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
 versions ago.



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 wrote:

 One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know
 trying
 to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that
 pretty
 quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers.
On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 You are lucky.
 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry 
 paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote:

 Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
 network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We
do
 however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when
the
 back-end database gets to 2GB.


 --


 *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com]
 *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40

 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
 versions ago.



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 wrote:

 One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know
 trying
 to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that
 pretty
 quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
PNP4Nagios works pretty well. The only thing that I didn't like is that it was 
a steep (very steep) learning curve for that interface vs. Cacti. I didn't 
really want to go through and re-create all of my graph templates again so I 
stuck with Cacti.

NINJA is ok, but I found it to be a bit irritation when dealing with moving 
from existing configurations to NINJA. If you are starting out a new Nagios 
installation then NINJA is probably ok for your needs. I used NagVis for a 
short period of time. My irritations with it always seem to be the support 
staff. They want some kind of map that is kept up to date with all the network 
gear. That request is just about impossible to do the right way without some 
custom code for a specific network layout.

--
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Network Engineer
Omnicity, Inc.

From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netmailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:10:48 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network?

Have you looked at NINJA for nagios?

On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:

- wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh 
interface responding?
- routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding?
- UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line 
power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding?
- PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding?
- switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding?
- cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into 
Warning, Critical, or Down status)
- linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, 
swap memory usage, total processes, are web  ssh interfaces responding?

Cacti for graphing:

- routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage
- linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage,
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From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

What are you using it for?  If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and 
such) Dude is a joke.  If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to 
one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash 
markl...@uwol.netmailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros  cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread RickG
Not that I have any preferences of OS but to be fair I set up the WIndows
2003 server once (last year) and have never done anything else to it.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers.
 On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
  You are lucky.
  Regards,
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.
 
  On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry 
  paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote:
 
  Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
  network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We
 do
  however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS
 when the
  back-end database gets to 2GB.
 
 
  --
 
 
  *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com]
  *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40
 
  *To:* 'WISPA General List'
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
 
 
 
  Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
  versions ago.
 
 
 
  *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On
  Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
  *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
  *To:* WISPA General List
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
 
 
 
  I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
  wrote:
 
  One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know
  trying
  to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that
  pretty
  quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
 
  I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
  products to the other.
 
  I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like
 to
  hear pros  cons of either.
 
  What did you switch from/to, and why?
 
  Thanks !
 
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

2010-11-15 Thread Ryan Goldberg
I'll go ahead and plug the Opsview front end to nagios.  More than a front end 
really.  I've been using nagios since the netsaint days and didn't want to give 
up years of hands on experience, but we needed a bit slicker configuration 
methods.  It also *almost* replaces cacti, but not quite.  However, we only 
keep our more specialized stuff in cacti, stuff that we developed complex 
templates for.  Opsview will handily graph/alert on switch/router/radio 
interfaces with a few clicks, and with almost no effort will graph/alert on any 
oid (or really, anything) you want.

Ryan

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Of RickG
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

Not that I have any preferences of OS but to be fair I set up the WIndows 2003 
server once (last year) and have never done anything else to it.
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers.
On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg 
ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 You are lucky.
 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG 
 rgunder...@gmail.commailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry 
 paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com 
 wrote:

 Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the
 network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do
 however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the
 back-end database gets to 2GB.


 --


 *From:* Jason Hensley 
 [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com]
 *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40

 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
 versions ago.



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude



 I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley 
 ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com
 wrote:

 One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know
 trying
 to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that
 pretty
 quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
 products to the other.

 I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
 hear pros  cons of either.

 What did you switch from/to, and why?

 Thanks !

 Mark





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

2010-11-15 Thread Nick Olsen
Worked fine here. Thanks
I noticed the last command didn't work and hadn't had a chance to reply 
back and say it didn't work right.
That does the trick however. (5.0rc3)

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Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106



From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup

Brad,

I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1.

--
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On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Neither example worked for me on v3.30.  What version are you running 
this
 command on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
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 Cc: n...@flhsi.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup
 
 Nick,
 
 I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this.
 
 /ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address
 
 Works for me. :-)
 
 --
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 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 Use regex search.
 
 /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1
 
 --
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 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
 
 Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without
 knowing the netmask?
 For instance
 /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing.
 But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where
 dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if 
there
 is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can 
do a
 show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the
 path(s) it can take and the best one.
 
 And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server 
with
 telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set 
one
 up?
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
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