Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well. You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is ipv4 addresses). These people are storing these addresses in buckets, bottles, etc. and distributing them to others. One day the well runs dry. This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people out there who have bottled water they can sell to others. They just can't go back to the well and get more. What they have is what they have. As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be addressed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 08:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.netli...@mtin.net wrote: We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well. You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is ipv4 addresses). These people are storing these addresses in buckets, bottles, etc. and distributing them to others. One day the well runs dry. This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people out there who have bottled water they can sell to others. They just can't go back to the well and get more. What they have is what they have. As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be addressed. No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. The B-team kidz who developed IPv6 (if you're too young to remember the IPNG process in the 1990 time frame, don't attack my characterization) did not think much about transition, and forgot about compatibility. The resulting transition plan is dual stack, meaning that you need to run IPv4 until everyone is running IPv6. Since IPv4 necessarily outperforms the higher overhead IPv6, there's little reason to not use v4. Since you thus need v4 addresses anyway, the market will reallocate them, just as the market reallocated farmland. If there turns out to be some real scarcity in the future, then the price will rise, and IPv4 addresses will be used more efficiently (more NAT, more use of private address space, etc.), and more large-block holders will release some to the market. Funny how much Frame Relay got done with a 10-bit address space. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6. Sent from my iPhone4 On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 2/7/2011 08:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well. You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is ipv4 addresses). These people are storing these addresses in buckets, bottles, etc. and distributing them to others. One day the well runs dry. This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people out there who have bottled water they can sell to others. They just can't go back to the well and get more. What they have is what they have. As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be addressed. No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. The B-team kidz who developed IPv6 (if you're too young to remember the IPNG process in the 1990 time frame, don't attack my characterization) did not think much about transition, and forgot about compatibility. The resulting transition plan is dual stack, meaning that you need to run IPv4 until everyone is running IPv6. Since IPv4 necessarily outperforms the higher overhead IPv6, there's little reason to not use v4. Since you thus need v4 addresses anyway, the market will reallocate them, just as the market reallocated farmland. If there turns out to be some real scarcity in the future, then the price will rise, and IPv4 addresses will be used more efficiently (more NAT, more use of private address space, etc.), and more large-block holders will release some to the market. Funny how much Frame Relay got done with a 10-bit address space. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Have to agree that we are not running out of IP space rather entering a new realm of how IPv4 space will be handled or traded going forward. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses At 2/7/2011 08:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well. You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is ipv4 addresses). These people are storing these addresses in buckets, bottles, etc. and distributing them to others. One day the well runs dry. This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people out there who have bottled water they can sell to others. They just can't go back to the well and get more. What they have is what they have. As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be addressed. No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. The B-team kidz who developed IPv6 (if you're too young to remember the IPNG process in the 1990 time frame, don't attack my characterization) did not think much about transition, and forgot about compatibility. The resulting transition plan is dual stack, meaning that you need to run IPv4 until everyone is running IPv6. Since IPv4 necessarily outperforms the higher overhead IPv6, there's little reason to not use v4. Since you thus need v4 addresses anyway, the market will reallocate them, just as the market reallocated farmland. If there turns out to be some real scarcity in the future, then the price will rise, and IPv4 addresses will be used more efficiently (more NAT, more use of private address space, etc.), and more large-block holders will release some to the market. Funny how much Frame Relay got done with a 10-bit address space. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6. Not all of us are that high priced! :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the guys from those days. Sent from my iPhone4 On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6. Not all of us are that high priced! :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. Very few are going to give up there 'old' IP space without wanting a high price if at all. I know I won't, any one else going too? Like most ISP's we grow every year not shrink. I see this as a real problem. I imagine we will dual stack soon and when the pinch comes give lower tier users a NAT'ed IPv4 IP and a /48 or /64 of IPv6 space. I hate the idea of handing out NAT'ed IP space though. Too hard to tell who did what. My opinion is there should be a very hard push to IPv6. Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6. That is going to be a HUGE issue. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
It has been addresses, it is called IPv6. On 2/7/2011 8:01 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: We are not out of IPv4 addresses. The unallocated pool is exhausted. There is a difference. Think of it in terms as water from a well. You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is ipv4 addresses). These people are storing these addresses in buckets, bottles, etc. and distributing them to others. One day the well runs dry. This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people out there who have bottled water they can sell to others. They just can't go back to the well and get more. What they have is what they have. As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be addressed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 11:07 AM, you wrote: Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the guys from those days. No, I'm not concerned about Butch, especially since there will be *some* customers who want IPv6, so it makes sense for many ISPs to provide the option. I'm thinking about the way Y2K spurred a big run on equipment sales, as perfectly good gear was replaced out of fear. It was good for the economy in 1999 and just awful in 2000 when sales plummeted. In the case of v6, I can think of certain *large* router vendors who are pushing it very, very hard, spurred on by the fact that their older kit cannot do v6 at high speed. Unless you're a big backbone player with scads of traffic to move, it seems to me that software-based routers today are a much better deal. One of my big concerns with them has been that they are good for Ethernet but don't always have a lot of WAN interfaces, like DS1 and DS3. But Imagestream seems to have both, including a channelized DS3 card. I assume Vyatta does, or could, too, though ISTM Imagestream makes their own cards. On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6. Not all of us are that high priced! :-) -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations. http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs. HP probably doesn't need 33M+ IPs. Ford probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 2/7/2011 10:34 AM, Matt wrote: No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. Very few are going to give up there 'old' IP space without wanting a high price if at all. I know I won't, any one else going too? Like most ISP's we grow every year not shrink. I see this as a real problem. I imagine we will dual stack soon and when the pinch comes give lower tier users a NAT'ed IPv4 IP and a /48 or /64 of IPv6 space. I hate the idea of handing out NAT'ed IP space though. Too hard to tell who did what. My opinion is there should be a very hard push to IPv6. Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6. That is going to be a HUGE issue. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Being able to talk IPv6 is the real problem. There will be content providers out there who will have v6 only networks. Even if you use all ipv4 space you or your upstream will need to be able to talk v6 in the near future. V4 is not going away. A separate v6 network will be layered on top of and beside the current network. ISPs need to be able to talk to this network in one fashion or another. At one point it will be hard to get v4 addresses. You will have to make deals with individuals, brokers, etc. to get v4 space. It will become a premium. All the while v6 addresses will be easy to get. Customer will be needing to get to v6 space whether they realize it or not. If your networks can't do native v6 *or* some sort of translation from 4 to 6 you will hear about it. You will have entire networks running v6 only with translation to v4. All of this will take time. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Hey it was expensive to dig up some of those cobol programmer programmers. And thaw the rest. Marco On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely not directed at you butch. I just remember some of the guys from those days. Sent from my iPhone4 On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On 02/07/2011 09:40 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: It will just turn into 1999 all over again with businesses everywhere worried they won't be able to use the Internet so they bring in high priced consultants to show them how to transition to IPV6. Not all of us are that high priced! :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google ISP edition
I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
IKANO sells the Google Partner Edition for ISPs. Shaun Hogan (s...@ikano.com) is my rep. Use Google Standard for free up to 50 accounts. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
It could be mobile military radars or during National Guard exercises, etc. What freqs are you using in the band? Does your mountain installation overlook any military training areas? On 2/7/2011 9:11 AM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
I second this theory. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications http://www.wavelinc.com P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 Sent from Microsoft Outlook -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem It could be mobile military radars or during National Guard exercises, etc. What freqs are you using in the band? Does your mountain installation overlook any military training areas? On 2/7/2011 9:11 AM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
Hh...that just set off a light bulb...none in the immediate area, but I'm sure their stuff would be high powered enough to reach some distance. Something we are going to look into further. On 02/07/2011 02:04 PM, Jack Unger wrote: It could be mobile military radars or during National Guard exercises, etc. What freqs are you using in the band? Does your mountain installation overlook any military training areas? On 2/7/2011 9:11 AM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] $50 Google Voice Device for Free U.S./Can. Calling
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
At 2/7/2011 11:34 AM, Matt wrote: No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. Very few are going to give up there 'old' IP space without wanting a high price if at all. I know I won't, any one else going too? Like most ISP's we grow every year not shrink. I see this as a real problem. I imagine we will dual stack soon and when the pinch comes give lower tier users a NAT'ed IPv4 IP and a /48 or /64 of IPv6 space. I hate the idea of handing out NAT'ed IP space though. Too hard to tell who did what. My opinion is there should be a very hard push to IPv6. Who says anything about giving up old IP space? It's not chattel property. It is merely an identifier in a protocol header, used under a voluntary agreement to exchange traffic. It was given away for free; it can be taken back. The FCC has legal authority over the North American Numbering Plan in the US, which is the *name* space for telephones. Unlike the Internet, it's not voluntary, it's regulated. About a decade ago, they ordered Number Pooling to begin. Carriers who had prefix codes with unused or under-utilized thousands blocks had to return them. Carriers today still have to file semiannual reports on number utilization. Notice how area code splits suddenly slowed to a crawl in the early part of the last decade? Number pooling did it. This was not voluntary. Your unused blocks of numbers were Reclaimed. If IANA or the RIRs wanted to do this, they could. They could simply announce that HP no longer owns Net 16 (old DEC space acquired with Compaq), for instance, effective x date, and HP should stop using it. And Halliburton and Daimler-Benz and other large-block holders should also lose unneeded space and be told to renumber. And then they should ask BGP users to respect the new assignments. Since the Internet is *voluntary*, Uncle Sam has no say; the ISP community decides who is the real owner of the space. The lawyers will, of course, try to find a way to get involved, since IPv4 address blocks *can* now be resold (to qualified buyers), so the large-block owners might see this as taking away windfall profits that they might be able to make by selling those oversized blocks. IAB made their bed, and now they'll have to sleep in it. Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6. That is going to be a HUGE issue. A good reason to assume that anything of any interest to the general public will remain on IPv4 for the foreseeable future, and v6-only will be limited to narrow-interest activities. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
On 2/7/2011 12:11 PM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret see if you can get a spectrum analyzer up there? What freqs qre you using? When I lived in south florida we always knew when the AWACS were flying as signals coming through our UHF repeater (443.85/448.85) had a unique whining sound and the amplitude was variable which indicated the rader beam moving around. We'd hear it for awhile and then disappeared. leon - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
Yes; their radars would be high-powered (perhaps megawatts). From your mountaintop location, you could have line-of-sight for 100 miles or more. If their radar was airborne, you could have LOS for 200 miles. Please keep us posted on what you turn up. jack (Chair - WISPA FCC Committee) 818-227-4220 On 2/7/2011 11:17 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Hh...that just set off a light bulb...none in the immediate area, but I'm sure their stuff would be high powered enough to reach some distance. Something we are going to look into further. On 02/07/2011 02:04 PM, Jack Unger wrote: It could be mobile military radars or during National Guard exercises, etc. What freqs are you using in the band? Does your mountain installation overlook any military training areas? On 2/7/2011 9:11 AM, Bret Clark wrote: That's what I'm thinking but you'd think it would be happening continuously. Yet we'll go several months without so much as a peep and then boom...we are in interference hell. Had the problem again this weekend, started Friday night, on and off all weekend, then Sunday night everything is find again. I'm running out of hair to pull out of my head at this point! Bret On 02/07/2011 12:05 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Bret, Sure sounds like radar to me. jack On 2/7/2011 5:18 AM, Bret Clark wrote: It's not the clients having the problem so much as it's the base which is up on a mountain with the radio another 100 feet in the air. I don't think this is a consumer device causing the problem. On 02/07/2011 03:10 AM, RickG wrote: There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clarkbcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] OT: Ubiquity airRouter in stock? Anyone?
Hit me off list if you can source 9 of these. Thanks [cid:image001.jpg@01CBC6BD.40061490] inline: image001.jpgattachment: Jerry Richardson.vcf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
This is happening in the entire 5GHz, we did have a spectrum analyzer up and we were able to catch the problem briefly. It looked like a high powered frequency hopper but we were unable to home in on it. The National Guard theory is sounding pretty good right now just because we'll go for so long without any problems; noise floor of -100db. We are in the process of looking into the locations of some National Guard sites in the area and will contact them to see if we can gain additional info. I'll update the list when I learn more. Bret On 02/07/2011 02:41 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: see if you can get a spectrum analyzer up there? What freqs qre you using? leon - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
Microsoft Domains Live is currently free for the services and/or number of accounts demanded by small and medium ISPs. Google used to be free for ISPs with thousand of accounts, but that doesn't hold anymore... now it's time for freebies from Microsoft. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
I thought it wasn't free from MS for ISPs. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft Domains Live is currently free for the services and/or number of accounts demanded by small and medium ISPs. Google used to be free for ISPs with thousand of accounts, but that doesn't hold anymore... now it's time for freebies from Microsoft. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
It was free for 100 accounts, but was expanded to 500 accounts on the free version, and one can ask for more accounts without changing for a paid service. They might turn your down or not, no way to know beforehand. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought it wasn't free from MS for ISPs. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft Domains Live is currently free for the services and/or number of accounts demanded by small and medium ISPs. Google used to be free for ISPs with thousand of accounts, but that doesn't hold anymore... now it's time for freebies from Microsoft. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband
Ugh...not good. Last thing I need is to compete with the ILEC who is getting money from the Universal Slush Fund to provide government subsidized broadband in rural areas. And I can see every ILEC in America lobbing to ensure that the distribution of USF continues as is if the shift is made to broadband instead of telephone...basically filling the ILEC's coffers! The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all broadband providers! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213 Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
Rubens, Google apps Partner Edition, now Google Apps for ISPs, was free prior to 2008 but unless you registered your domain with Google prior to 2008 it is now a paid product. You should also be aware that Google no longer offers this service direct and they are utilizing the wholesale channel to distribute Google Apps for ISPs. You can find out more information about the program at: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition It was free for 100 accounts, but was expanded to 500 accounts on the free version, and one can ask for more accounts without changing for a paid service. They might turn your down or not, no way to know beforehand. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought it wasn't free from MS for ISPs. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft Domains Live is currently free for the services and/or number of accounts demanded by small and medium ISPs. Google used to be free for ISPs with thousand of accounts, but that doesn't hold anymore... now it's time for freebies from Microsoft. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISPA Free Passes available
I know that a lot of WISPA members may be travelling to Orlando for the WISPA/FISPA event. As you may be aware, this event is being held the same week as the CTIA Wireless Expo which is also in Orlando. For a limited time, CTIA Wireless, in conjunction with the exhibiting companies, is offering free show floor Platinum passes - but you need to register before February 16. To register for a free pass, click on this link to register: http://www.ctiashow.com/freepass/ http://www.ctiashow.com/freepass/ Enter CTIALIFE when prompted for the Pass Code. What is a Platinum Pass? A Platinum Pass allows you to obtain a complimentary Show Floor Exhibits Pass for International CTIA WIRELESS(r) 2011. This pass allows entrance to: * Exhibit Floor * CTIA Keynotes * Plus all free Partner Events Upon completion of the Platinum Pass registration form, you will receive a Show Floor attendee badge email confirmation. You must then complete your registration form by Wednesday, February 16, 2011, Midnight, Pacific time to receive your free Show Floor Exhibits Pass. Let me know if you have any problems with the registration. Trango will be exhibiting at CTIA and we look forward to seeing you in Orlando! Kind regards, John Seaman | Sales Director | Trango Systems, Inc. | +1.858.391.0010 xt 271 | www.trangosys.com http://www.trangosys.com/ Visit Trango Systems at an upcoming Industry Event GSMA Mobile World Congress 2011, Barcelona, Spain, Feb 14-17, Hall: 2.0, Stand: 2A126 CTIA Wireless 2011, Orlando, Florida, Mar 22-24, Booth 635 Trango Technical Certification Training, March 10-11, San Diego, California Innovating Microwave Backhaul(tm) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CTIA Free Passes available
Sorry! Subject line should say CTIA Free Passes available From: John Seaman Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: WISPA Free Passes available I know that a lot of WISPA members may be travelling to Orlando for the WISPA/FISPA event. As you may be aware, this event is being held the same week as the CTIA Wireless Expo which is also in Orlando. For a limited time, CTIA Wireless, in conjunction with the exhibiting companies, is offering free show floor Platinum passes - but you need to register before February 16. To register for a free pass, click on this link to register: http://www.ctiashow.com/freepass/ http://www.ctiashow.com/freepass/ Enter CTIALIFE when prompted for the Pass Code. What is a Platinum Pass? A Platinum Pass allows you to obtain a complimentary Show Floor Exhibits Pass for International CTIA WIRELESS(r) 2011. This pass allows entrance to: * Exhibit Floor * CTIA Keynotes * Plus all free Partner Events Upon completion of the Platinum Pass registration form, you will receive a Show Floor attendee badge email confirmation. You must then complete your registration form by Wednesday, February 16, 2011, Midnight, Pacific time to receive your free Show Floor Exhibits Pass. Let me know if you have any problems with the registration. Trango will be exhibiting at CTIA and we look forward to seeing you in Orlando! Kind regards, John Seaman | Sales Director | Trango Systems, Inc. | +1.858.391.0010 xt 271 | www.trangosys.com http://www.trangosys.com/ Visit Trango Systems at an upcoming Industry Event GSMA Mobile World Congress 2011, Barcelona, Spain, Feb 14-17, Hall: 2.0, Stand: 2A126 CTIA Wireless 2011, Orlando, Florida, Mar 22-24, Booth 635 Trango Technical Certification Training, March 10-11, San Diego, California Innovating Microwave Backhaul(tm) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
I am not sure I agree with the conclusion. I think we are going to see some new applications that use some of the things that IPv6 offers, like multi-cast and any-cast in ways we can not imagine, yet. When they do and the consumer demand comes, the SOHO router market will catch. ISPs better be ready. On 2/7/2011 2:23 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6. That is going to be a HUGE issue. A good reason to assume that anything of any interest to the general public will remain on IPv4 for the foreseeable future, and v6-only will be limited to narrow-interest activities. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition
That's why I mentioned that Microsoft Live Domains are like that, not Google Apps. Microsoft is mimicking what Google has done prior to 2008, and that's why I suggest using Microsoft instead of Google. As Google once taught to Microsoft, free (as in free beer) is an unbeatable price. If an ISP is willing to pay, I would strongly suggest Hosted Zimbra services. Get a quote from Google Apps as well, but Zimbra offers way more upselling oportunities to offset the baseline cost. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, Google apps Partner Edition, now Google Apps for ISPs, was free prior to 2008 but unless you registered your domain with Google prior to 2008 it is now a paid product. You should also be aware that Google no longer offers this service direct and they are utilizing the wholesale channel to distribute Google Apps for ISPs. You can find out more information about the program at: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition It was free for 100 accounts, but was expanded to 500 accounts on the free version, and one can ask for more accounts without changing for a paid service. They might turn your down or not, no way to know beforehand. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought it wasn't free from MS for ISPs. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft Domains Live is currently free for the services and/or number of accounts demanded by small and medium ISPs. Google used to be free for ISPs with thousand of accounts, but that doesn't hold anymore... now it's time for freebies from Microsoft. Rubens On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com wrote: Rubens, IKANO can offer the ISP edition of Gmail. You can learn about it here: http://partneredition.ikano.com/ If I can answer any of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks, Shaun Hoggan s...@ikano.com 801-415-8113 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google ISP edition On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I know the ISP edition isn't available any more. What version or where is the place to go to get the replacement. I'm looking to use it for a couple customers. http://domains.live.com Rubens --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband
I would rather see the fund /not/ be available. I can not afford to compete against the money nor can I afford to take the money and keep my business mine. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Ugh...not good. Last thing I need is to compete with the ILEC who is getting money from the Universal Slush Fund to provide government subsidized broadband in rural areas. And I can see every ILEC in America lobbing to ensure that the distribution of USF continues as is if the shift is made to broadband instead of telephone...basically filling the ILEC's coffers! The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all broadband providers! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213 Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband
USF should not go to areas that meet criteria for an already demonstrated ability to have private sector dollars profitably deploy broadband. Check out my blog on the topic with a data chart for a few states as to the household density of those areas with existing broadband and those without. USF funds on a state by state basis should not be able to be used in areas that fall within the numbers where it has been proven that broadband systems have been deployed without USF assistance http://wp.me/p1eoQy-f Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:55 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband Ugh...not good. Last thing I need is to compete with the ILEC who is getting money from the Universal Slush Fund to provide government subsidized broadband in rural areas. And I can see every ILEC in America lobbing to ensure that the distribution of USF continues as is if the shift is made to broadband instead of telephone...basically filling the ILEC's coffers! The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all broadband providers! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213 Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Weather Maps
This is cool... http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap3.php?map=usa [cid:image001.jpg@01CBC715.C5B7F880] inline: image001.jpgattachment: Jerry Richardson.vcf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
