Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Rick Harnish]

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

 

Not a vendor member.
NewWays Networking, LLC is a WISP member.  I just do some consulting because
I don't have enough to do running a WISP. ;-) 

On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Jim Patient wrote:

Scott,

 

What is the name of your consulting company?  I'm having a

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Butch Evans]

On 07/20/2013 07:06 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> Cost should be set based on the speed of the link.  So, if you have a 1
> Gbps link in your network, set the cost of routers on either side to 1.
>   If you have a 333 Mbps link, set the cost of the routers on either
> side to 3.  100 Mbps link?  Cost = 10.  So, your 1 Gbps link speed is
> really 1000 Mbps so cost = 1000 / Speed.

This is generally the approach, but not really a "should be" sort of 
thing.  There are many reasons why you don't want to always use the 
fastest link as the only parameter.


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Butch Evans]

On 07/20/2013 12:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
> I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
> running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
> cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one
> link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

In ospf, the path cost determines where a packet is routed.  Take this 
simple example:


 -- R2 --
 |  |
R1  -  - R4 ->Target
 |  |
 -- R3 --

If, on the R1<->R2 interface, you add cost and all other settings are 
left at default then the traffic at R1 destined for the networks beyond 
R2/R3 would prefer the path that includes R3, since the cost is higher 
going through R2 interface.  Note that this cost is calculated on the 
OUTGOING interface, so this example assumes you have one interface for 
R2 and one for R3.  Additionally, because the outgoing path is the one 
where cost is calculated, the return traffic would consider both the R2 
and R3 path to be equal.  The essence of path cost is this:
higher cost = less preferred path

To calculate the path cost (from R1), the router would look at the cost 
of the interface: R1-R2, R2-R4 and compare it to R1-R3, R3,R4 path.

Distance is the metric that the kernel uses to determine which learned 
route to use.  You can google the "default route distance" to see the 
full chart.  Connected routes are distance 0; Static routes default at 
distance 1 and ospf learned routes are distance 110.  What this means is 
that a route learned by ospf will be used ONLY if there is no other 
shorter distance route installed.  In RouterOS, you can change the 
distance for static routes, so that you can use them as "backup" in case 
OSPF fails.

The OSPF priority parameter is only used to determine which router in a 
segment becomes the DR, BDR or just another router.  You can google 
"ospf designated router election" to see exactly how this happens.

> I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't
> always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between
> two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it
> as the backup link.

You are probably looking for cost instead of priority.  Just for the 
record, this is one of the things we cover in my classes.  There is one 
lab that we do that covers all of these things in great detail.


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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Scott Reed]

Not a vendor member.
NewWays Networking, LLC is a WISP member.  I just do some consulting 
because I don't have enough to do running a WISP. ;-)


On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Jim Patient wrote:


Scott,

What is the name of your consulting company?  I'm having a hard time 
finding you on the WISPA vendor member page.  Perhaps they missed 
getting you listed when you paid you vendor membership dues?


Jim

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Scott Reed

*Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:55 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF.  If you need 
more help, let me know.
I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, 
setting up routers correctly, etc.
If is is easy, no charge.  If is going to take some time/effort, I 
charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum.  Let me 
know what I can do to help.


On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core
towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an
outage this week. We have enough links that we could set this up
for redundancy but only have static routing in place, so I had to
manually route around the down link.

I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example,
it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide
one link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains
that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?

I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't
always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link
between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want
to reserve it as the backup link.

Thanks for any advise!




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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Jim Patient]

Scott,

 

What is the name of your consulting company?  I'm having a hard time
finding you on the WISPA vendor member page.  Perhaps they missed
getting you listed when you paid you vendor membership dues?

 

Jim

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

 

I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF.  If you need more
help, let me know.
I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed,
setting up routers correctly, etc.
If is is easy, no charge.  If is going to take some time/effort, I
charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum.  Let me
know what I can do to help.



On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core
towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage
this week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy
but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route around
the down link.  

 

I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example,
it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one
link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works. 

 

Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains
that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?

 

I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it
won't always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link
between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to
reserve it as the backup link. 

 

Thanks for any advise!

 






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Wireless Networking
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(765) 855-1060
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