Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There’s at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
Can you share why Wireless Orbit is shutting down? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:26 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There’s at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *John Scrivner *Sent:* Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
You really should do this yourself, especially if you can program a website Why pay someone else every day as your users sign up? Use mikrotik hotspot, clear box radius and a sql server. Then you write the code... its a little bit of work but then you control it completely and can attach to any merchant account / bank you choose. Or you could pay someone to set up your own then you still own and maintain it... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:27 PM To: j...@mvn.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There's at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
If I could code it, I would. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 19, 2013 6:42 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: You really should do this yourself, especially if you can program a website Why pay someone else every day as your users sign up? Use mikrotik hotspot, clear box radius and a sql server. Then you write the code... its a little bit of work but then you control it completely and can attach to any merchant account / bank you choose. Or you could pay someone to set up your own then you still own and maintain it... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org *Sent*: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:27 PM *To*: j...@mvn.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There's at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *John Scrivner *Sent:* Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current? I have 2x, 300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar. What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels wired in series or parallel? Thanks, Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
You probably need more Sun, or less load. It sounds like you have it wired correctly. The panels should tilt south about the same angle as your Lattitude. Up here on the canadian border we are at 48 degrees lattitude so the panels tilt about 45 degrees. In the summer they lay flat. Gary On 11/19/2013 7:43 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current? I have 2x, 300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar. What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels wired in series or parallel? Thanks, Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
And it has about a 5 amp load... On Nov 19, 2013, at 20:23, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: You probably need more Sun, or less load. It sounds like you have it wired correctly. The panels should tilt south about the same angle as your Lattitude. Up here on the canadian border we are at 48 degrees lattitude so the panels tilt about 45 degrees. In the summer they lay flat. Gary On 11/19/2013 7:43 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current? I have 2x, 300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar. What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels wired in series or parallel? Thanks, Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
When you hook things up in series (solar panels, batteries etc.) you increase the voltage. 12vdc + 12vdc = 24vdc. When you hook them up in parallel you increase the amps. 200ah + 200ah = 400ah. So if you need a 24vdc plant then you hook them up like you currently have with 2x12vdc in series to get 24vdc and then those banks are hooked in parallel which increases your amp hours. If you need a 48vdc plant then hook the 24vdc banks in series to make a 48vdc bank and then hook those banks together in parallel. The batteries charge pretty much the same no matter what voltage you are using. Your voltage choice depends on your load. It's better to step down than to step up. Hope that helps. Sean On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Mike Lyon wrote: So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current? I have 2x, 300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar. What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels wired in series or parallel? Thanks, Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org javascript:; http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
5 amps is a pretty hefty load. Try to cut that down by combining radios to one power supply or eliminate unnecessary stuff. Remember the solar charge time in winter is only from 10 AM to 2 PM the rest of the day the charge is much less. You are burning 1/3 of the charging in the load, not much is left for battery charging. Up here I run a small generator 2 hours twice a day at about what your panels are rated at. It sucks and it is expensive but I have been totally Off Grid for 35 years. Gary On 11/19/2013 8:29 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: And it has about a 5 amp load... ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?
I'd replace the controller with a mppt model, wire the panels in series (to 48v nominal), and leave the battery bank at 24v. Decoupling the panel voltage from the charging voltage let's you start charging a bit earlier, and keep charging a bit longer; plus mppt is a bit more efficient than pwm. Most importantly, it let's you double your panels (which is your best bet overall), without having to increase the gauge of your wiring. --Eric Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 Original message From: Mike Lyon Date:11/19/2013 8:29 PM (GMT-08:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel? And it has about a 5 amp load... On Nov 19, 2013, at 20:23, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: You probably need more Sun, or less load. It sounds like you have it wired correctly. The panels should tilt south about the same angle as your Lattitude. Up here on the canadian border we are at 48 degrees lattitude so the panels tilt about 45 degrees. In the summer they lay flat. Gary On 11/19/2013 7:43 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current? I have 2x, 300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar. What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels wired in series or parallel? Thanks, Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
On 11/19/2013 05:42 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: You really should do this yourself, especially if you can program a website Why pay someone else every day as your users sign up? Use mikrotik hotspot, clear box radius and a sql server. Then you write the code... its a little bit of work but then you control it completely and can attach to any merchant account / bank you choose. Or you could pay someone to set up your own then you still own and maintain it... WISP-Router has a system for this purpose, too. Just runs on a linux server and handles both authentication and signup. Supports multiple payment backends. PLUS, WISP-Router is a vendor member of WISPA. The system is called Gatespot and can be found here: http://store.wisp-router.com/GateSpot I'm not sure, but he may have a hosted service as well. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
