Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-04-01 Thread Steve Barnes
ADP offers a full line of online time tracking.  You pay for it though, through 
the nose.

But they then do it all.  Fed, State, and local taxes paid on time by them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:42 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

Check out TimeTrex.  There's a free/community edition, and the paid version is 
pretty reasonable and has an Android/iOS app, job costing, etc.  The setup, 
especially if you have to shoehorn existing policies into it, can be a little 
arduous.  But after that, it just works.

hth,

-Kristian

On 03/31/2014 03:39 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. 
 Presently we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with 
 that...just too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark 
 down their own time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone 
 has to retrieve their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then 
 add up the time, enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The 
 crews turn out at a remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Fax... that's your problem. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
To: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net, WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 7:20:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks... 


If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue. 

My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the day or they 
put them in the fax machine upside down. So the bookkeeper either gets no 
sheets or blank white sheets of paper. This then requires someone to go to the 
warehouse to retrieve the sheets and a firedrill in the AM to do payroll and 
get the checks out to the warehouse. 

-B- 




On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote: 


How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a client from 
their home? we currently use a mobile app called time tracker. Each employee 
logs their time. At the end of the pay period they send it to me and I review 
and enter their time into payroll. 
This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work. 
timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: 
What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they work with RFID 
cards  evry time you tap Your card it automatically goes into QB 


I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples 
— 
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A.  d...@franczek.com  wrote: 

blockquote

Bob, 



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on time sheets 
each week, having a timeclock that can report to a central location is an 
absolute must. You still should have a supervisor reviewing the times each week 
and, ideally, having the employees sign off that they agree that the timesheet 
is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. Shoot me an 
email or give me a call. 



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that would also be 
QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many: 



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 

http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 



Doug 



-- Original message -- 
From: Bob Moldashel 
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM 
To: WISPA General List; 
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks... 

OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but 

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently 
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just 
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own 
time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve 
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time, 
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn out at a 
remote site that is not part of the main office. 

Its time to work smarter not harder. 

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely. 

Anyone have any suggestions? 

Tnx 

-B- 

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[WISPA] Time Warner Business Class Phone Service

2014-04-01 Thread Stuart Pierce
Has anyone tried and successfully backfed a Time Warner Business Class type 
voip phone service through their wireless link? If the power goes out the 
business has no internet or phone service even if they have a generator. In the 
event of a power outage I have generation and an internet connection and want 
to sell backup/secondary services to potential TW business customers. 





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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-04-01 Thread Stuart Pierce
Sometimes I wish I could like email list posts.

-- Original Message --
From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 31 Mar 2014 20:45:35 -0400

That would work but I would probably drown in the tears or the crying 
would make me deaf!

:-)





On 3/31/2014 8:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

 That's why my pay period ends on a Friday and payroll isn't until the 
 next Wednesday...  I have all weekend and most of Monday to get 
 payroll into QuickBooks for direct deposit.

 We just use a spreadsheet instead of a timecard.

 On Mar 31, 2014 6:20 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
 mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

 My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the
 day or they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the
 bookkeeper either gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper.
 This then requires someone to go to the warehouse to retrieve the
 sheets and a firedrill in the AM to do payroll and get the checks
 out to the warehouse.

 -B-




 On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
 How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a
 client from their home?  we currently use a mobile app called
 time tracker. Each employee logs their time. At the end of the
 pay period they send it to me and I review and enter their time
 into payroll.
 This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

 timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
 What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they
 work with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it
 automatically goes into QB

 I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
 ---
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A.
 d...@franczek.com mailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:

 Bob,



 Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off
 on time sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report
 to a central location is an absolute must. You still should
 have a supervisor reviewing the times each week and, ideally,
 having the employees sign off that they agree that the
 timesheet is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these
 issues off-list. Shoot me an email or give me a call.



 House for a timeclock, have you considered using something
 that would also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option
 among many:



 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html


 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html




 Doug



 -- Original message --
 From: Bob Moldashel
 Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List;
 Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

 OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
 Presently
 we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
 that...just
 too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down
 their own
 time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to
 retrieve
 their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up
 the time,
 enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn
 out at a
 remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the
 Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

 -B-

 Douglas A. Hass
 Associate
 312.786.6502 tel:312.786.6502
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-04-01 Thread wispa
We use time clock plus. Has mobile and PC app for clocking in and out, lets 
you select your job, lets a manager know who is on the clock and who is not. 
Still have the issues of people forgetting to clock in and out. We do 
telephone system work here so it bills that department. End of the week I go 
thru and check things over before the accountant gets the hours and she cuts 
checks from there

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Moldashel
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own
time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The crews turn out at a
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-04-01 Thread Matt Corcoran
We use ADP as well it works well.  Not sure what we are paying for it.
Only issue with ADP is that if you do bi-weekly paychecks on monday
morning when you are doing payroll and employees are trying to check in,
the system gets overloaded and accepts your punch but doesn¹t record it!!
It happened predictably all summer/fall last year.   They never fixed the
issue but since we changed to bimonthly it hasn¹t been an issue.



On 4/1/14, 8:11 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

ADP offers a full line of online time tracking.  You pay for it though,
through the nose.

But they then do it all.  Fed, State, and local taxes paid on time by
them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:42 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

Check out TimeTrex.  There's a free/community edition, and the paid
version is pretty reasonable and has an Android/iOS app, job costing,
etc.  The setup, especially if you have to shoehorn existing policies
into it, can be a little arduous.  But after that, it just works.

hth,

-Kristian

On 03/31/2014 03:39 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
 Presently we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
 that...just too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark
 down their own time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone
 has to retrieve their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then
 add up the time, enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The
 crews turn out at a remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Business Class Phone Service

2014-04-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
Does TW not provide battery backup to their pole mounted gear?

I don't think you can do this as the TW VoIP runs exclusively on the TW
system.

A good reason to break away from the monopoly.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 4/1/14, 8:15 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 Has anyone tried and successfully backfed a Time Warner Business Class type 
 voip phone service through their wireless link? If the power goes out the 
 business has no internet or phone service even if they have a generator. In 
 the event of a power outage I have generation and an internet connection and 
 want to sell backup/secondary services to potential TW business customers. 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-04-01 Thread Nick Olsen
I've seen pretty good luck with T38 for faxing over VOIP. Obviously, This 
only works for faxing. Not alarms..etc.

 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106




 From: wi...@mncomm.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip
   I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their 
office to a new building where the telco couldn't or wouldn't bring service to. 
So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in and we go over a 
wireless link to the new office where they use their internet and IP phones, 
and all works great.

 So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their new 
location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time, but I may 
have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some Grandstream gateway 
devices. We have them configured correctly and they transmit and receive voice 
just fine, just no fax.

 So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to 
digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks up to 
the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the products you 
may have used? The products we have say they will work this way, but no luck, 
just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well.

 Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their 
existing fax machine? I know it's a little weird to ask that, but some people 
have a hard time with change using their PC to send faxes

 thanks
 heith
 mnwireless



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[WISPA] magnetic sector panel mount

2014-04-01 Thread lar
Hi all,

I am looking for a magnetic mount that can be used on a sector panel for
use on a municipal metal water tank. The sector panels will be for ubiquity.
Sector panel model not chosen yet.  The catch 22 is that we experience
high winds. We have sustained winds of 40-60 mph with occasional gusts in
the 70-80 mph range on a few days each year. (like 30 or 40)

Anybody know of something that is strong enough to work?


Any info or experience is appreciated. Thanks.


Larry Ash
Network Administrator
Mountain West Telephone
123 W 1st St.
Casper, WY 82601
Office 307 233-8387
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Re: [WISPA] magnetic sector panel mount

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Petermann
http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html


I think they are around 2K/square.


On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:34 PM, l...@mwtcorp.net wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am looking for a magnetic mount that can be used on a sector panel for
 use on a municipal metal water tank. The sector panels will be for ubiquity.
 Sector panel model not chosen yet.  The catch 22 is that we experience
 high winds. We have sustained winds of 40-60 mph with occasional gusts in
 the 70-80 mph range on a few days each year. (like 30 or 40)
 
 Anybody know of something that is strong enough to work?
 
 
 Any info or experience is appreciated. Thanks.
 
 
 Larry Ash
 Network Administrator
 Mountain West Telephone
 123 W 1st St.
 Casper, WY 82601
 Office 307 233-8387
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Re: [WISPA] magnetic sector panel mount

2014-04-01 Thread Dan Petermann
its 15K for a set of 4 squares.

On Apr 1, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote:

 http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
 
 
 I think they are around 2K/square.
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:34 PM, l...@mwtcorp.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am looking for a magnetic mount that can be used on a sector panel for
 use on a municipal metal water tank. The sector panels will be for ubiquity.
 Sector panel model not chosen yet.  The catch 22 is that we experience
 high winds. We have sustained winds of 40-60 mph with occasional gusts in
 the 70-80 mph range on a few days each year. (like 30 or 40)
 
 Anybody know of something that is strong enough to work?
 
 
 Any info or experience is appreciated. Thanks.
 
 
 Larry Ash
 Network Administrator
 Mountain West Telephone
 123 W 1st St.
 Casper, WY 82601
 Office 307 233-8387
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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-04-01 Thread Christopher Hair
Vitality’s Fax Enable product allows ATA with fax machine but they have a 
monthly minimum. FaxSipit is another company we have used that does Fax ATA 
services with no minimum. Both work well.

 

Chris

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of wi...@mncomm.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

 

I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their 
office to a new building where the telco couldn’t or wouldn’t bring service to. 
So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in and we go over a 
wireless link to the new office where they use their internet and IP phones, 
and all works great. 

 

So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their new 
location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time, but I may 
have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some Grandstream gateway 
devices. We have them configured correctly and they transmit and receive voice 
just fine, just no fax.

 

So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to 
digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks up to 
the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the products you 
may have used? The products we have say they will work this way, but no luck, 
just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well.

 

Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their existing 
fax machine? I know it’s a little weird to ask that, but some people have a 
hard time with change using their PC to send faxes

 

thanks

heith

mnwireless

 

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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-04-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
On Monday, March 31, 2014 8:51 AM, l...@mwtcorp.net  wrote:

 I don't want to start a long thread about fax but --RANT

[...snip excellent fax rant...]

+1

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First Step Internet, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-04-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:04 AM, wi...@mncomm.com  wrote:

 So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to
 digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks
 up to the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the
 products you may have used? The products we have say they will work this
 way, but no luck, just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as
 well. 

If you are talking about a private point-to-point wireless link shot between 
two buildings across a parking lot or whatever, with excellent link quality 
characteristics and low jitter and latency, there is no reason that I can think 
of why moving the fax machine over wouldn't just work.  Perhaps you could 
share with us the following:

1. Model of the Grandstream gateways in question.
2. How you have the gateways configured (e.g., codec being used and such).
3. What equipment you are using to do the wireless shot.
4. Average throughput, latency, and jitter across that link.
5. Whether the link is for phone use only, or is combined voice and data.
6. ...if combined, whether any kind of QoS is being employed to promote voice 
transmission ahead of data.

...and, most importantly...

7. What exactly happens when you try to send or receive a fax over the gateway 
devices.

A vague it doesn't work description never helped anybody solve anything. :-)  
Give us details.  How does it fail, exactly?  How far along does it get?  Is it 
able to transmit a partial page and then the connection drops?  Or can it not 
even complete the handshake with the other fax machine?  If it works for voice, 
I very much doubt you have a bad device, unless it is a software/firmware 
issue on the device(s).  If the device was physically bad, I suspect the defect 
would present itself in other ways as well.

General things to try out and to look out for:

If you are using some fancy, efficient voice codec like G.729, turn that crap 
off.  Limit both gateways to negotiate G.711u with each other only.

If they have a T.38 option, make sure it is either enabled on both sides, or 
disabled on both sides...if there is a mismatch, some SIP stacks behave very 
badly if/when their re-INVITE to T.38 is rejected by the other peer.

If the gateway devices support T.38 and it happens to be enabled, try turning 
it off.  The T.38 spec is so vague as to often be useless, and there can be 
interop problems even between two identical devices (I swear that sometimes 
vendors don't test their own products...it's infuriating).  And on a private, 
short-haul link like that, I would sure think that using G.711u PCM for both 
voice and fax transmission would be sufficient and pose no problems.

On the other hand, if latency and jitter are sometimes a problem and the 
quality of the link is in doubt, and you haven't been using T.38, then by all 
means give T.38 a try, assuming your Grandstream devices can act as T.38 
gateways (it's not enough for them to have T.38 passthrough support, they must 
have GATEWAY functionality).  Once you finally get past all of the interop 
issues, T.38 really can work magic for FoIP on uncontrolled IP links.

If you are using T.38 (or, heck, even if you aren't using T.38), try forcibly 
lowering the maximum modulation rate that their fax machine will attempt to 
handshake to the other side with.  It is still (sadly) incredibly common for 
most production T.38 implementations these days to be based off of version 0, 
which does not include support for gatewaying V.34, only V.17.  If they have a 
Super G3 fax machine, the T.38 gateway feature should in theory just ignore 
the handshake and not even engage and try to re-INVITE to T.38, but you never 
know...could be buggy.  Or if you aren't using T.38, V.34 modulation rates 
could be more sensitive to timing and jitter issues.  So limit the fax machine 
to 14400bps or 9600bps.

Hope this helps,

-- 
Nathan Anderson
First Step Internet, LLC
nath...@fsr.com
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