[WISPA] MT interface bonding
Will bonding interfaces of 2 Rocket M5 Dish units result in full duplex transmission? We are needing to increase the backhaul throughput of one of our links. The obvious answer is to convert to a licensed full duplex unit (which we plan to do) but in the meantime to get by will bonding interfaces fix our issue? We are getting about 45-50 mbps duplex mode on a single unit (using the built in speed test), if we bond two we are assuming that we will see 90-100mbps and hopefully full duplex instead of half. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding
As far as performance is concerned which will offer the better end result? Bonding or routing the interfaces? Can you elaborate on how to use ospf to create dedicated tx / rx interfaces? We use ospf currently to facilitate a self-healing network. Thanks for the help and advice :) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding No. You will need to set one up as tx and one as rx. Bonding just uses them both for tx/rx. The best way that I know to do this is with OSPF and Mikrotik. That way one link is always tx and the other is rx. http://stfunoo.be/?p=696 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Will bonding interfaces of 2 Rocket M5 Dish units result in full duplex transmission? We are needing to increase the backhaul throughput of one of our links. The obvious answer is to convert to a licensed full duplex unit (which we plan to do) but in the meantime to get by will bonding interfaces fix our issue? We are getting about 45-50 mbps duplex mode on a single unit (using the built in speed test), if we bond two we are assuming that we will see 90-100mbps and hopefully full duplex instead of half. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding
Which would give the better experience? When I run duplex speed test with Rocket M5 I see 36ish Up and 45ish down. When I run transmit only (which would equate to down) I see 70 mbps. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 09:44 -0600, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: As far as performance is concerned which will offer the better end result? Bonding or routing the interfaces? Can you elaborate on how to use ospf to create dedicated tx / rx interfaces? We use ospf currently to facilitate a self-healing network. If you are already running OSPF, you can use this: http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/10/using-ospf-to-create-full-duplex-behaviour-for-wireless-links/ Adding a second path will add SOME bandwidth, but it will not be likely to double the throughput. Bonding, on the other hand, will double the throughput, but will not be full duplex behavior. There are examples of bonding on Mikrotik's wiki that may be of use. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding
Right, so what I am thinking is if I run routed full duplex my download should go to 70mbps and my latency should drop based on my speed tests if I am understanding this right. One other question, I understand how to configure the routers except for one thing, this will be at our core backhaul just before it enters our fiber, so it is the default route for internet traffic on one of the routers. Should I add a second MT to handle the OSPF and then plug ether3 of that router into the main MT router, or can I somehow send my traffic from the two routed interfaces to the default route? I hope this makes sense J Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding Thats the radio duplex to blame. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 14, 2011 1:17 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Which would give the better experience? When I run duplex speed test with Rocket M5 I see 36ish Up and 45ish down. When I run transmit only (which would equate to down) I see 70 mbps. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 tel:%28918%29%20235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 09:44 -0600, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: As far as performance is concerned which will offer the better end result? Bonding or routing the interfaces? Can you elaborate on how to use ospf to create dedicated tx / rx interfaces? We use ospf currently to facilitate a self-healing network. If you are already running OSPF, you can use this: http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/10/using-ospf-to-create-full-duplex-beha viour-for-wireless-links/ Adding a second path will add SOME bandwidth, but it will not be likely to double the throughput. Bonding, on the other hand, will double the throughput, but will not be full duplex behavior. There are examples of bonding on Mikrotik's wiki that may be of use. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Installation videos
We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education of our customers. Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they would like to share for ideas? Thanks, Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] UBNT Retransmits
Is there a simple command or option for viewing re-tx and errors on the wireless interface for troubleshooting purposes? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Retransmits
This is for M-series by the way. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] UBNT Retransmits Is there a simple command or option for viewing re-tx and errors on the wireless interface for troubleshooting purposes? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
You've given me a lot to consider. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Can't rely on the noise level reading indicated on a live link's status screen. (although we tend to put a lot of weight on the noise shown using the Spectrum Scanner over a period of time, paying attention to the peak value (blue line) ). But even then, the results are shown as a single reading, and not individually for each polarity. What happens if one polarity is low noise and the other polarity has super high noise? For a noise free 2 mile ubiquiti link at 20Mhz, dual pol, we can actually get Iperf to push 70mbps. Although testing with devices/laptops attached tp ends of the radios. So if you can only get 40mbps, something is wrong with the testing method or the link. Heck, a 10mhz channel can push 35-40mbps with Iperf, at top modulation.. You could continue further by dropping down to 10Mhz, and seeing the rate of change. Also at 20Mhz, you have the flexibilty to change channels to make sure you aren't centered on a bad channel. What speed does the UBNT embedded speed test show? Note UBNT test is also based on TCP. On average our testing usally will see very simlar speed results comparing the UBNT built in test to Iperf. If UBNT test is also slow, you definately have a link issue. If UBNT test is much faster, then scrutinze your testing devices. Or play with Iperf to make sure its not the Iperf setting s you are using requiring tweaking. Also, if using Iperf, try parallel streams, to see if you get a higher agregate throughput. That will tell you if it is a real capacity limit, or a TCP slow down issue due to quality. It should be noted that the UBNT Rocket using it's embeeded test tool, can successfully perform a full speed test. I've tested up to 85mbps. So, to reduce variables, to trouble shoot a link problem, rely on the embedded test tool until such time that the embeeded tool can reach full speed. Once that is accomplished, you can scrutinize link quality further with Iperf. The only need for Iperf is to test multi-hop to a non-UBNT end point, or parallel streams, to gather more data. We had an issue with Bullets not to long ago, where 5.3.3 firmware was super slow, but switching down to a 5.2 version solve the performance problem. But that is not a Rocket. We've used later firmwares for Rockets fine, usually. When you push traffic does your modulation change frequently? or stay steady? Generally its good practice to leave radio set to a max mode equivllent to what it will stay at on average without downshifting. if your link generally stays steady on a mode/modulation, and you are not getting throughput appropriate for that modulation, using the UBNT inbedded tests, its usually a timing thing, preventing the link from functioning optimally. Manually stting the ACK time is one thing that is within your control to play with. When in doubt, if nothing makes sense, and you cant solve it, try changing firmware. Not only upgrade but downgrade. This has fixed our performance issues numerous times, even though a clear answer of why, was not determined. What antennas are you using? Are they UBNT? If not, do they have a high enough port-to-port isolation? You also cant rule out multipath self interference, as with that you wont see noise if you aren't transmitting. You can try narrowing antenna beamwidth, if you aren't already. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Ok tried 20mhz, throughput drops about 10mbps to about 30mbps. My signal is at least 20db better than noise (signal -59 noise -85+). ACK is set auto with distance of 2 miles (actual distance is approx 1.5mi). cable not an issue. any thoughts? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput You probably either have 1) noisy channels, 2) incorrect ACK distances, 3) not optimal firmware version, 4) Or some third party factor effecting testing, such as testing devices that cant generate that much traffic or buffer sizes of routers. The first thing to try is switch down to 20mhz channel and see if the speed tests stays the same or higher, or if it drops proportionally. I bet the 20Mhz channel will perform better. Dont rely on CCQ on its own. Its one indicator, but does not mean you have a clean channel for sure. Also remember, the Eth port is limited to 100mb, and if there is cable quality issues such as due to distance, it could autoadjust to half duplex. Test laptop to PC
[WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is getting on a PtP ubnt connection? We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5 mi, CCQ 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off. Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270. Real TCP throughput via iperf radio to radio is 40-45mbps. Are there some config changes needed perhaps? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
Problem is when I turn airmax on the speed really goes in the toilet. Best I can get is about 20mbps. According to ubiquiti airmax needs to be off up to 15km links, anything over that airmax needs to be on. Do you have good success with short airmax ptp links? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Turn AirMax on. Travis On 10/24/2011 1:36 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is getting on a PtP ubnt connection? We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5 mi, CCQ 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off. Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270. Real TCP throughput via iperf radio to radio is 40-45mbps. Are there some config changes needed perhaps? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
Is this the case even when you have good channel separation? I do have some other gear on the same tower but no overlapping channels. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of m...@tc3net.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput No, they recommend Airmax on for all links at this time, I think you have Airmax/NoAck entangled here. Be careful with Airmax as it's TDMA and doesn't handle co-location with other 5 ghz gear all that well, they tend to stomp on each other without shielding/separation (GPS should be a winner here). Regards Michael Baird - Original Message - From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:50:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Problem is when I turn airmax on the speed really goes in the toilet. Best I can get is about 20mbps. According to ubiquiti airmax needs to be off up to 15km links, anything over that airmax needs to be on. Do you have good success with short airmax ptp links? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Turn AirMax on. Travis On 10/24/2011 1:36 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is getting on a PtP ubnt connection? We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5 mi, CCQ 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off. Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270. Real TCP throughput via iperf radio to radio is 40-45mbps. Are there some config changes needed perhaps? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
Ok tried 20mhz, throughput drops about 10mbps to about 30mbps. My signal is at least 20db better than noise (signal -59 noise -85+). ACK is set auto with distance of 2 miles (actual distance is approx 1.5mi). cable not an issue. any thoughts? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput You probably either have 1) noisy channels, 2) incorrect ACK distances, 3) not optimal firmware version, 4) Or some third party factor effecting testing, such as testing devices that cant generate that much traffic or buffer sizes of routers. The first thing to try is switch down to 20mhz channel and see if the speed tests stays the same or higher, or if it drops proportionally. I bet the 20Mhz channel will perform better. Dont rely on CCQ on its own. Its one indicator, but does not mean you have a clean channel for sure. Also remember, the Eth port is limited to 100mb, and if there is cable quality issues such as due to distance, it could autoadjust to half duplex. Test laptop to PC, isolating RF path, just for grins. It is very rare to find 40Mhz of clean spectrum for Dual polarity, and even the slightest packet loss and delay can drastically reduce TCP throughput. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr mailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Problem is when I turn airmax on the speed really goes in the toilet. Best I can get is about 20mbps. According to ubiquiti airmax needs to be off up to 15km links, anything over that airmax needs to be on. Do you have good success with short airmax ptp links? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput Turn AirMax on. Travis On 10/24/2011 1:36 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is getting on a PtP ubnt connection? We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5 mi, CCQ 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off. Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270. Real TCP throughput via iperf radio to radio is 40-45mbps. Are there some config changes needed perhaps? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Aircontrol iperf question
Anyone know a way to change the iperf options or iperf command in aircontrol so that instead of it testing to the internal ip of the server you can test to the external ip. I can switch and do a download test fine but unable to perform upload test. Many thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
Having trouble establishing communication to radios via aircontrol. It is definitely an issue with our firewall (using a imagestream rebel running iptables via powercode) because when I initiate a rebuild the communication comes up after the services process it goes down again. I already have port 22 and port 9080 open. Any ideas? Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
Cameras? No cameras, just managing the APs and CPEs. All of my APs are added as infrastructure already, still not working. Are there any additional ports that need to be open to establish communication? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT Just add the cameras as infrastructure. It's the easiest way and best way (it's documented!!!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Having trouble establishing communication to radios via aircontrol. It is definitely an issue with our firewall (using a imagestream rebel running iptables via powercode) because when I initiate a rebuild the communication comes up after the services process it goes down again. I already have port 22 and port 9080 open. Any ideas? Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
:) right, I am able to discover the devices, do firmware updates, but rssi is not visible and the device shows up red, unless I do a rebuild in which case it goes green until the services on the BMU are started and then goes red again. I am on a routed network OSPF my devices are private subnet but route-able from the AirControl server. i.e. I can ping, ssh, web connect to the radios from the aircontrol running on CentOS btw. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT Too many Air products. If you're doing a broadcast discovery they need to be in the same collision domain, same interface of the router, etc. I expect you're probably trying that and they are on a different collision domain so what you do is add an IP range in the scan box (ie 10.10.10.0/24 and 172.16.2.0/24 and 192.168.233.0/24) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Cameras? No cameras, just managing the APs and CPEs. All of my APs are added as infrastructure already, still not working. Are there any additional ports that need to be open to establish communication? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT Just add the cameras as infrastructure. It's the easiest way and best way (it's documented!!!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Having trouble establishing communication to radios via aircontrol. It is definitely an issue with our firewall (using a imagestream rebel running iptables via powercode) because when I initiate a rebuild the communication comes up after the services process it goes down again. I already have port 22 and port 9080 open. Any ideas? Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
Yes, it's definitely a firewall problem, the trouble is I already have open the ports that are supposed to be opened. I seem to have no trouble communicating to server on 9080. i.e. I can go to an alternate internet source via my 3g and connect to server on that port but my radios cannot connect to server on that port. Whatever it is, it is definitely in the iptables rules. The only ports that have to be open are 9080 and 22 by default right? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT On 10/19/2011 09:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Admin Tab - System Settings - Air Control Server Address Make sure this is an IP address. If not then your CPE will fail to talk to your server. It obviously needs to be the wan port of your router. Just as a quick test, you can ssh to a managed Ubnt device, and run the following... telnet Air Control Server Address 9080 GET /enter enter If you see a HTTP header response, then you're good. If you get a blank stare, then you have a firewall problem, such as what Ryan alluded to. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
I ssh'd into a radio and tried the command: telnet ip of AC 9080 Nothing. Is that the proper command? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT On 10/19/2011 09:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Admin Tab - System Settings - Air Control Server Address Make sure this is an IP address. If not then your CPE will fail to talk to your server. It obviously needs to be the wan port of your router. Just as a quick test, you can ssh to a managed Ubnt device, and run the following... telnet Air Control Server Address 9080 GET /enter enter If you see a HTTP header response, then you're good. If you get a blank stare, then you have a firewall problem, such as what Ryan alluded to. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
Ok, after talking to imagestream, they say they have gotten this same question now twice within a week, it seems to be related to the complex nat table rules that powercode executes. So I will revise my question, has anyone gotten aircontrol to work successfully with powercode using iptables in advanced scripts? If so how? Many thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT If it times out you have a firewall in between. Or since you are NAT'ing you need to dst-nat the port to your server. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I ssh'd into a radio and tried the command: telnet ip of AC 9080 Nothing. Is that the proper command? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT On 10/19/2011 09:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Admin Tab - System Settings - Air Control Server Address Make sure this is an IP address. If not then your CPE will fail to talk to your server. It obviously needs to be the wan port of your router. Just as a quick test, you can ssh to a managed Ubnt device, and run the following... telnet Air Control Server Address 9080 GET /enter enter If you see a HTTP header response, then you're good. If you get a blank stare, then you have a firewall problem, such as what Ryan alluded to. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 7 days till Vegas
Vegas is just a little too far for us especially with the workload, last year we went to broadband expo in Dallas. Any word of it coming back? Pat Csweb Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:15 PM, John McDowell j...@readynetsolutions.com wrote: Ditto! John McDowell Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: I don’t care for Vegas, but I can’t wait to see everyone! Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 7 days till Vegas Who is excited?! If you haven't gotten your preparations ready, do them NOW! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3929 - Release Date: 09/30/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Power for tower sites
Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites
Power with 12v then? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Careful on powering most Mikrotiks with 24 volt. We have found, and verified with roc-noc and some others, that many of the MT boards will get hot with 24 volts to the DC jack and lockup and other weirdness. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:49 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites
Whatever works best for reasonable $ :-) it's been a nightmare so far. Starting to upset customers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Is this just while using the Jack? Via POE, 24V is the way to go.. IMO. Do you want to make a full conversion to DC? Or just replace the typical UPS setup? Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Careful on powering most Mikrotiks with 24 volt. We have found, and verified with roc-noc and some others, that many of the MT boards will get hot with 24 volts to the DC jack and lockup and other weirdness. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:49 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3908 - Release Date: 09/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites
We are using just the wet cell batteries. The idea was to make use of some old UPS where the batteries had died. Has anyone heard of an issue where the UPS is looking for 13+ volts and the marine batteries are outputting only 12 volts and this causes a problem? Is anyone successfully running a configuration similar to ours that I might learn from? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rod Shepardson Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Are you connecting the marine batteries in parallel with the internal gel-cell battieries on the UPS? If so, not good. Lead-acid and gel-cells charge at different rates. Disconnect the gel-cells. Run off just the marine batteries. Rod == - Original Message - From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:45 PM Subject: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Mikrotik (the dude) works great Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? It is indeed SQLite3 which for some reason means when your db file gets to 2GB the whole thing crashes. There are some nice features on the beta which aren't usable as they record so much info. Seems this limit has been there for a very long time but MT don't seem to bothered. Guess it's because it's free software. On 19/09/2011 20:31, Sam Tetherow wrote: I thought I read somewhere that the db files where sqlite3 files. I don't run Dude so I can't test. On 9/19/11 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: No. It's something like tar -tzf dudebackup.tgz dude.db files/ files/something.log files/myfont.ttf files/anotherlog.log Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: What if you do an export? Don't you get an XML file? On 9/19/2011 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: That is true in 3.6. Not in 4.0b3. It's a gzip'ed tarball with dude.db (binary) and the files dir. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Dude configuration file is XML On 9/19/2011 1:38 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote: Along the same lines... Is there anyway to preload dude? For example, If you already know all the IPs and community strings of all the devices that you should be able to see, I would like to enter the info directly in bulk (Usually several hundred devices) and then use Dude to monitor the deployment of the network... Thanks, Chris Stradtman On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Ed Spoon - CSS, Inc. ed.sp...@cssla.com wrote: Dude 3.6 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I never run anything Mikrotik Beta. Their release software is beta enough for me. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/19/2011 11:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: What version of the Dude are you guys running? v4 b3 seems very unnerving. Back ups needed to be repeatedly attempted =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: The Dude in use for over a year even moved config 3 times to better servers as the network grew. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ed Spoon - CSS, Inc. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services. Ed Spoon Manager of Internet Services triparish.net / cajun.net Member: FISPA / WISPA Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 Computer Sales Services, Inc. Error! Filename not specified. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the unstability of the version Do you have it in production without any issue? Thank you Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the problem is! *--- **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_** **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com//* *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? We use PRTG, The latest one. We watch the
Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites
What's a good model to look for? They seem kind of pricey. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites I was going to mention Xantrex as a contender. They used to be Trace Engineering. They make a decent inverter. Tripp Lite makes some special high quality high reliability inverters for things like ambulances if you need something a cut above. The cream of the crop is the Outback. Greg On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I have had good luck with some of my servers using a xantrex inverter/charger and a pile of wal-mart car batteries. It's not pretty but I have had no power drops in a couple of years. Since the unit is designed for RVs etc, it will keep the 12v pile charged even in the face of 12v drain, so you can drive both 120vac and 12vdc loads off the same setup. It will charge the batteries when they need it and ac is available, and float them after they are charged, and use the batteries to provide ac if the mains ac disappears. You decide how big a pile of batteries to attach... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Whatever works best for reasonable $ :-) it's been a nightmare so far. Starting to upset customers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Is this just while using the Jack? Via POE, 24V is the way to go.. IMO. Do you want to make a full conversion to DC? Or just replace the typical UPS setup? Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Careful on powering most Mikrotiks with 24 volt. We have found, and verified with roc-noc and some others, that many of the MT boards will get hot with 24 volts to the DC jack and lockup and other weirdness. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:49 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net http://Csweb.net/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3908 - Release Date: 09/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites
I thought like +/- $200.00 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites How much do you want to spend? Greg On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: What's a good model to look for? They seem kind of pricey. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites I was going to mention Xantrex as a contender. They used to be Trace Engineering. They make a decent inverter. Tripp Lite makes some special high quality high reliability inverters for things like ambulances if you need something a cut above. The cream of the crop is the Outback. Greg On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I have had good luck with some of my servers using a xantrex inverter/charger and a pile of wal-mart car batteries. It's not pretty but I have had no power drops in a couple of years. Since the unit is designed for RVs etc, it will keep the 12v pile charged even in the face of 12v drain, so you can drive both 120vac and 12vdc loads off the same setup. It will charge the batteries when they need it and ac is available, and float them after they are charged, and use the batteries to provide ac if the mains ac disappears. You decide how big a pile of batteries to attach... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Whatever works best for reasonable $ :-) it's been a nightmare so far. Starting to upset customers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Is this just while using the Jack? Via POE, 24V is the way to go.. IMO. Do you want to make a full conversion to DC? Or just replace the typical UPS setup? Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Careful on powering most Mikrotiks with 24 volt. We have found, and verified with roc-noc and some others, that many of the MT boards will get hot with 24 volts to the DC jack and lockup and other weirdness. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:49 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Power for tower sites Currently we are having some horrible issues with power at our tower sites. Our current configuration is that we have tripplite smart 500VA rackmout UPS connected to deep cycle marine battery. This seems to work OK for a month or so and then kills either the battery or the UPS or both. We then notice that the equipment at the tower will power off (battery shuts down for about 10 min) and then powers back on. This happens almost daily and in some cases multiple times in a day. I think it may have to do with the output volts of the battery not being high enough for the UPS to operate. We are desperately looking for other alternatives to what we are doing to resolve this issue. Most equipment will operate at 12/24 volt. 1x Mikrotik, 2x Trango AP, 2x Trango Link45, 4x UBNT Rocket. Any suggestions are appreciated. Pat Csweb.net http://Csweb.net/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3908 - Release Date: 09/20/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
[WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Yes, and we powered it down so that we had a -60. I just wanted to illustrate that it is not a poor signal issue. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax and it may be causing some issues with throughput especially upload. Has anyone else found this to be the case? We are needing to be able to consistently carry 50mbps or so off of these M5 bridges, is that doable or are we asking too much of this equipment? Thanks, Pat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
This is testing with pc on either end of the radio, plugged in 100fdx ethernet with iperf. Didn't check ota built-in speedtest. No other traffic on radio. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the radio's and issue the following commands to make sure that ethernet interfaces are not dropping any packets. ... ifconfigto show status or ethtool eth0 to show handshake... As a rule.. you should expect to see about 50% to 75% of the air-rate in each direction.(not running duplex test). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 5:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Tried again and this time airmax off seems to have done the trick. Is there any suggested settings in Advanced tab for a 2km link? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? The other scenario where Airmax makes better goodput is interference, either from your tower or from others. Shielding the Rocket might do the trick, then. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
In a LOS situation with say -70 or so what kind of throughput with UBNT 3.65? Also on the FCC Registration do I file as Common Carrier, Non-Common, or Private? Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:41 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax I am shooting through a hill and a forest, about ~2.5miles with 3.65GHz. The link was marginal at 900MHz, I really did this one as a test to see if 3.65GHz could handle it. I am using one of the KPP reflectors on the Nanostation as a test. It is linked up with a noise floor of -95 at about -85 to -90dB. Pretty horrible. But I get about 3Mbps throughput. I have another customer with a lot of foliage but not such a nightmare situation. 900MHz was linked at about -75ish, 3.65GHz is linked in the low 80s (-82 to -85ish). This is without a reflector, just a straight NSM365. Customer gets about 5Mbps x 1.5Mbps. I don't think it is great at dense penetration but we've seen it work OK with a low noise floor in areas that were previously required to be 900MHz. On 6/22/2011 10:27 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
In a LOS situation with say -70 or so what kind of throughput with UBNT 3.65? Also on the FCC Registration do I file as Common Carrier, Non-Common, or Private? Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax It wasn't working at the time. I don't know if it was a signal issue though, this guy just ended up being in a good spot to beta test worst case 3.65GHz scenario. On 6/22/2011 10:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: What was the signal of the first link in 900? On Jun 22, 2011 11:41 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: I am shooting through a hill and a forest, about ~2.5miles with 3.65GHz. The link was marginal at 900MHz, I really did this one as a test to see if 3.65GHz could handle it. I am using one of the KPP reflectors on the Nanostation as a test. It is linked up with a noise floor of -95 at about -85 to -90dB. Pretty horrible. But I get about 3Mbps throughput. I have another customer with a lot of foliage but not such a nightmare situation. 900MHz was linked at about -75ish, 3.65GHz is linked in the low 80s (-82 to -85ish). This is without a reflector, just a straight NSM365. Customer gets about 5Mbps x 1.5Mbps. I don't think it is great at dense penetration but we've seen it work OK with a low noise floor in areas that were previously required to be 900MHz. On 6/22/2011 10:27 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today
[WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs?
Any thoughts on a service charge for on-site CPE repairs or relocating equipment due to changed signals. We have a bit of a disagreement within as to whether this would be ethical. The customer does not own the equipment at their location. We use a lot of 900Mhz so there are regular equipment relocates due to interference or degraded signals. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Question about QMailToaster and Powercode
Anyone know if there is a way to integrate qmailtoaster into powercode so that email accounts can be managed from within PC? Also is there a way to allow users to add their own accounts into QMT without having to call us. Thanks in advance Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform
Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can run on Windows or Linux. We would also like a calendar and address book module in webmail as well. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] content filtering as a premium service for subscribers
Anyone offering web content filtering as a premium service to subscribers? If so what have you found works best? We've had a few requests, and are trying to see if it is worthwhile. Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone in the Texas / Oklahoma region interested in Selling?
We did look at selling a while back but never went anywhere with it. We might be interested in talking with you though. We are located in eastern Oklahoma. Sequoyah county. About 600 subs. Pat Csweb.net Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: We are looking to perform some acquisitions within the next 6 months. We would be interested in talking to anyone in this same region that has an interest in selling their business. If you are interested, contact me off-list please. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 900AP
Anyone near Oklahoma have a Trango M900AP they are willing to let go of? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bullet M2 association trouble
We've noticed that the bullet's aren't associating on the initial config. We seem to have to send out a technician after the installer to re-configure the device before it will associate to the Rocket. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go that route. So it sits in the toolbox. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day in and day out. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to start. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e- mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
What about the SR4C and what AP would be best suited to pair with it? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go that route. So it sits in the toolbox. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day in and day out. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to start. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go that route. So it sits in the toolbox. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day in and day out. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to start. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e- mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person
[WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to start. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Utility Pole cell
I know this subject has been visited already recently. We are meeting with a local rural electric coop about using pole space to facilitate neighborhood wireless. They have some concerns about aesthetics and liability, does anyone already doing this have some pics they can share so that we can have something tangible to show them. We are thinking a small backhaul/omni for the cell setup. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] (no subject)
Anyone know what the deal is with Defacto Wireless? I can't seem to get in touch with anyone and my order never shipped. They've always been good to work with in the past. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900Mhz question
We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy and it's abilities. How does a Mikrotik with something like a XR9 compare in terms of penetration and throughput when paired with a Ubiquity CPE? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale
I apologize as I know this has been discussed on the list before. We are entertaining the idea of selling out of our respectable size wireless ISP business in eastern Oklahoma. We have about 500 (growing daily) subscribers. Anyway, we are working on determining the net worth of the business. Any thoughts or formulas for determining this? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale
No, actually we were awarded a RUS grant back in 2006 and we've completed that project. We're just tired out, and ready for a change. :-) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:03 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale ROFL ... NTIA got you all tied up ? :) Brian Webster wrote: I would certainly map out your network and show the total number of households able to be reached, not just base it on the number of subscribers you have. I know someone who can do that type of work :-) But not until after August 14th. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale I apologize as I know this has been discussed on the list before. We are entertaining the idea of selling out of our respectable size wireless ISP business in eastern Oklahoma. We have about 500 (growing daily) subscribers. Anyway, we are working on determining the net worth of the business. Any thoughts or formulas for determining this? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
Basically just wanting to protect our servers 8 servers total (3 email 2 DNS 1 Web 2 offsite backup) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall How may users behind it? How much throughput? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:30 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: 06/18/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
Yes, I use mikrotik for end user protection and routing but I'm not sure that will fit the bill here. I think I may need more of a corporate type solution. I've used Watchguard and cisco products in the past but I thought maybe I could save some $$ and go with a linux homebrew -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Maybe you could provide more detail as to your application. In most situations I agree with Gino, MikroTik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Mikrotik Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:30 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
Maybe trying another approach... has anyone successfully implemented a firewall using Imagestream rebel with powercode? I have written some iptables rule and placed them in the post config script I can see where it is applying them but doesn't seem to be blocking properly. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall PFSense on a high end computer probably fit the bill...http://www.pfsense.com/ On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:45 -0500, Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote: Basically just wanting to protect our servers 8 servers total (3 email 2 DNS 1 Web 2 offsite backup) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall How may users behind it? How much throughput? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:30 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: 06/18/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
