Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
Until someone cuts down the trees or repeals the laws of physics 3.65 will never outperform 900 at equivalent power. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Scottie Arnett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz Canopy. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Cowan" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400 >It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better >than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance >much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage >much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are >based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. > >Mike > > > > > >Mike Cowan >Wireless Connections >A Division of ACC >166 Milan Ave >Norwalk, OH 44857 >419-660-6100 >419-706-7348 Cell >419-668-4077 Fax >mi...@wirelessconnections.net >www.wirelessconnections.net > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Travis Johnson >Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax > >Hi, > >We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The >3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in >NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio >systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the >higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still >not comparable to 900mhz. > >In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they >still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just >fine. YMMV. > >Travis >Microserv > >Jeremie Chism wrote: >> Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have >> not >> used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less >> interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment >> deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how >has >> it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the >> manufacturers claim they do). >> Thanks >> >> Jeremie Chism >> Triton Communications >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
When talking about 365 we have to understand that there are two product groups: 802.11 based, WiMAX and somewhere in between :) the 802.11 based can be used just as your basic 5 GHz (UBNT) without the interference. The WiMAX group of products actually use different modulation and do achieve excellent NoLOS performance with indoor devices, which is key for massive deployments in urban areas. And the "in between" are products the are based on 802.11 technology that have been taken a significant step further beyond. In the latter group we have seen some products that simply don't work, so when talking about 365 we mostly think of the first two groups. The main point really, is what do you want to do with it. IMHO it is a waste of resources to use WiMAX in rural, low noise areas, but for urban it's a god sent, and UBNT style equipement is a cheap medication for interference headaches under any circumstances. And as much as I would like it to be otherwise, MT/UBNT can't match WiMAX ... yet :) Kristi Fundu IT-NTS dooel www.it-nts.mk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
I agree. When you see wifi vendors with sub-$1000 APs in the 2.4 space and they suddenly want to sell yo basically the same tech (at a different freq range) for $1 there is a problem. Someone is cashing in on hype becase the R&D CANNOT be that expensive when you take volume of CPE/AP sales into account. Seriously, FCC testing is around $6K for a complete radio, and the ASIC/opensource platform that makes up the signalling is close to free. MTIK/UBNT will place lots of pressure on the $$$ guys will use sales savvy (Alverion) to stay afloat or lower their price. ryan -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:17 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax The WiMax guys aren't interested in the WISP market... they are after the cell guys and big operators looking to place 5,000 and 10,000 CPE orders. Travis Microserv Scottie Arnett wrote: I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz Canopy. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Cowan" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400 It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the manufacturers claim they do). Thanks Jeremie Chism Triton Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ---
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
The WiMax guys aren't interested in the WISP market... they are after the cell guys and big operators looking to place 5,000 and 10,000 CPE orders. Travis Microserv Scottie Arnett wrote: I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz Canopy. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Cowan" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400 It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the manufacturers claim they do). Thanks Jeremie Chism Triton Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz Canopy. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Cowan" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400 >It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better >than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance >much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage >much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are >based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. > >Mike > > > > > >Mike Cowan >Wireless Connections >A Division of ACC >166 Milan Ave >Norwalk, OH 44857 >419-660-6100 >419-706-7348 Cell >419-668-4077 Fax >mi...@wirelessconnections.net >www.wirelessconnections.net > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Travis Johnson >Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax > >Hi, > >We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The >3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in >NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio >systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the >higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still >not comparable to 900mhz. > >In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they >still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just >fine. YMMV. > >Travis >Microserv > >Jeremie Chism wrote: >> Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not >> used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less >> interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment >> deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how >has >> it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the >> manufacturers claim they do). >> Thanks >> >> Jeremie Chism >> Triton Communications >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
Well there is NLOS performance and spectrum crowding to be considered. Not sure which Mike Cowan was referring to. Mike Hammett wrote: > I don't think I'd go that far. In many areas 2.4 is useless, so by that > very token, 3.650 would be a world of better because it's virgin territory. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Cowan" > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:24 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax > >> It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better >> than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance >> much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide >> coverage >> much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations >> are >> based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike Cowan >> Wireless Connections >> A Division of ACC >> 166 Milan Ave >> Norwalk, OH 44857 >> 419-660-6100 >> 419-706-7348 Cell >> 419-668-4077 Fax >> mi...@wirelessconnections.net >> www.wirelessconnections.net >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax >> >> Hi, >> >> We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The >> 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in >> NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio >> systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the >> higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still >> not comparable to 900mhz. >> >> In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they >> still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just >> fine. YMMV. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Jeremie Chism wrote: >>> Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have >>> not >>> used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less >>> interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment >>> deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how >> has >>> it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the >>> manufacturers claim they do). >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jeremie Chism >>> Triton Communications >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
I don't think I'd go that far. In many areas 2.4 is useless, so by that very token, 3.650 would be a world of better because it's virgin territory. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Cowan" Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:24 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax > It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better > than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance > much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide > coverage > much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations > are > based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. > > Mike > > > > > > Mike Cowan > Wireless Connections > A Division of ACC > 166 Milan Ave > Norwalk, OH 44857 > 419-660-6100 > 419-706-7348 Cell > 419-668-4077 Fax > mi...@wirelessconnections.net > www.wirelessconnections.net > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax > > Hi, > > We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The > 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in > NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio > systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the > higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still > not comparable to 900mhz. > > In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they > still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just > fine. YMMV. > > Travis > Microserv > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have >> not >> used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less >> interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment >> deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how > has >> it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the >> manufacturers claim they do). >> Thanks >> >> Jeremie Chism >> Triton Communications >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: > Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not > used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less > interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment > deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has > it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the > manufacturers claim they do). > Thanks > > Jeremie Chism > Triton Communications > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
With Mikrotik, throughput is all the same regardless of frequency. So, here is the throughput chart: 5mhz channel = 7Mbps 10mhz channel = 15Mbps 20mhz channel = 30Mbps 40mhz channel = 50Mbps So, with 3.65ghz, the fastest you could get it 30Mbps because there is only 25mhz of spectrum available. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: What kind of throughout are you getting on 3.65? -RickG On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the manufacturers claim they do). Thanks Jeremie Chism Triton Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
What kind of throughout are you getting on 3.65? -RickG On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The > 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in > NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio > systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the > higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still > not comparable to 900mhz. > > In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they > still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just > fine. YMMV. > > Travis > Microserv > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not >> used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less >> interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment >> deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has >> it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the >> manufacturers claim they do). >> Thanks >> >> Jeremie Chism >> Triton Communications >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and "tricks" that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: > Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not > used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less > interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment > deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has > it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the > manufacturers claim they do). > Thanks > > Jeremie Chism > Triton Communications > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 "license" but have not used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the manufacturers claim they do). Thanks Jeremie Chism Triton Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
