Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-07 Thread Chris Hudson
I built a Mikrotik cellular 3G/4G/LTE device last year and the Mini-pcie card 
that I used was the Sierra Wireless AirPrime MC7700. At the time with ROS 5.x 
the drivers sucked bad and wouldn’t stay connected. This week I pulled it back 
out and installed ROS 6.13 and so far it has worked good. Unfortunately I’m in 
an area with ATT “4G” and our throughput kinda sucks. I’m going to take it 
with me to OKC next time I run up there and see how it works on the LTE up 
there.

 

 

Chris

 

 

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Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

 

I wouldn't recommend a mikrotik for this as they have horrible cellular modem 
support. If you even find one that is compatible it likely has bugs where 3g 
might work but 4g doesn't. Cellular is damn expensive but might be doable in 
this case. The plan with baltic is sprint only and is a true backup plan with 
low monthly costs but high data cost per MB so I would go with a standard 
verizon plan and maybe get a refurb cradlepoint MBR1000 on ebay, I have one and 
it works great. I'm a 100% mikrotik network as a wisp but can't recomend for 
cellular

 

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue, yes 
this will work.

 

However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz eg to 
view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or nearby) .

 

Just a thought.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518  Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net 

 

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Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM


Subject: [WISPA] 4g router device

 

A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on 
Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote site 
if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past week I 
have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check their water 
tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there is no standard 
wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service area.

 

Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use an 
existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used on 
Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power at the 
tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device, maybe a 
small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a viable 
product for this application

 

Thanks

heith

 

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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-07 Thread timothy steele
A place I worked at developed a Linux driver for the  Sierra  card (I know the 
programmer let me know if you need it) that might work with mikrotik probably 
better chances paying a pfsense bounty on the pfsense forum to get it working—
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On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com
wrote:

 I built a Mikrotik cellular 3G/4G/LTE device last year and the Mini-pcie card 
 that I used was the Sierra Wireless AirPrime MC7700. At the time with ROS 5.x 
 the drivers sucked bad and wouldn’t stay connected. This week I pulled it 
 back out and installed ROS 6.13 and so far it has worked good. Unfortunately 
 I’m in an area with ATT “4G” and our throughput kinda sucks. I’m going to 
 take it with me to OKC next time I run up there and see how it works on the 
 LTE up there.
  
  
 Chris
  
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of TJ Trout
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:47 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g router device
  
 I wouldn't recommend a mikrotik for this as they have horrible cellular modem 
 support. If you even find one that is compatible it likely has bugs where 3g 
 might work but 4g doesn't. Cellular is damn expensive but might be doable in 
 this case. The plan with baltic is sprint only and is a true backup plan with 
 low monthly costs but high data cost per MB so I would go with a standard 
 verizon plan and maybe get a refurb cradlepoint MBR1000 on ebay, I have one 
 and it works great. I'm a 100% mikrotik network as a wisp but can't recomend 
 for cellular
  
 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
 wrote:
 The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue, yes 
 this will work.
  
 However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz eg 
 to view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or nearby) .
  
 Just a thought.
  
 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 
  
 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518  Option 2 or Email: 
 supp...@snappytelecom.net 
  
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 From: heith wi...@mncomm.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 4g router device
  
 A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on 
 Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote 
 site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past 
 week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check their 
 water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there is no 
 standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service area.
  
 Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use 
 an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used 
 on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power at 
 the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device, maybe 
 a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a viable 
 product for this application
  
 Thanks
 heith
  
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[WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread heith
A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on
Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote
site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past
week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check
their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there
is no standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service
area. 

 

Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use
an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used
on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power
at the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device,
maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a
viable product for this application

 

Thanks

heith

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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
I haven't done it, but it should work.
MikroTik has a list of supported 3G/4G modems that should work:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware#4G_LTE_cards

Bryce D
NETAGO

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith
Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 15:59
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 4g router device

A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on 
Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote site 
if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past week I 
have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check their water 
tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there is no standard 
wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service area.

Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use an 
existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used on 
Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power at the 
tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device, maybe a 
small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a viable 
product for this application

Thanks
heith
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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue, yes 
this will work. 

However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz eg to 
view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or nearby) . 

Just a thought. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

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 From: heith wi...@mncomm.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 4g router device

 A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on
 Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote
 site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past
 week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check
 their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there
 is no standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service
 area.

 Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use
 an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used
 on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power
 at the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device,
 maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a
 viable product for this application

 Thanks

 heith

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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread TJ Trout
I wouldn't recommend a mikrotik for this as they have horrible cellular
modem support. If you even find one that is compatible it likely has bugs
where 3g might work but 4g doesn't. Cellular is damn expensive but might be
doable in this case. The plan with baltic is sprint only and is a true
backup plan with low monthly costs but high data cost per MB so I would go
with a standard verizon plan and maybe get a refurb cradlepoint MBR1000 on
ebay, I have one and it works great. I'm a 100% mikrotik network as a wisp
but can't recomend for cellular


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
wrote:

 The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue,
 yes this will work.

 However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz
 eg to view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or
 nearby) .

 Just a thought.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *heith wi...@mncomm.com
 *To: *wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM

 *Subject: *[WISPA] 4g router device

 A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated
 on Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a
 remote site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In
 the past week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could
 check their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so
 there is no standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our
 service area.



 Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would
 use an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be
 used on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have
 power at the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this
 device, maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router
 was a viable product for this application



 Thanks

 heith

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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread heith
Yeah I would gladly do a ptp to current ISP but there is none close. These 
areas are real desolate. I think data rate price could be ok as they intend to 
check once or twice day. In fact they live 30 miles away so it’s a pain to 
check manually or have a neighbor check for them. They could easily pay Verizon 
$100 a month and come out money ahead in fuel

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

 

The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue, yes 
this will work.

 

However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz eg to 
view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or nearby) .

 

Just a thought.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

 

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From: heith wi...@mncomm.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
Subject: [WISPA] 4g router device

 

A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated on 
Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a remote site 
if you lost standard access through your regular network. In the past week I 
have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check their water 
tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so there is no standard 
wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our service area.

 

Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would use an 
existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be used on 
Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power at the 
tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this device, maybe a 
small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router was a viable 
product for this application

 

Thanks

heith


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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread TJ Trout
Probably can do this with just a photo, might be an idea to keep
consumption down


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

 Yeah I would gladly do a ptp to current ISP but there is none close. These
 areas are real desolate. I think data rate price could be ok as they intend
 to check once or twice day. In fact they live 30 miles away so it’s a pain
 to check manually or have a neighbor check for them. They could easily pay
 Verizon $100 a month and come out money ahead in fuel



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2014 5:08 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g router device



 The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue,
 yes this will work.



 However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz
 eg to view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or
 nearby) .



 Just a thought.



 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232



 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


 --

 *From: *heith wi...@mncomm.com
 *To: *wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] 4g router device



 A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated
 on Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a
 remote site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In
 the past week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could
 check their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so
 there is no standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our
 service area.



 Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would
 use an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be
 used on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have
 power at the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this
 device, maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router
 was a viable product for this application



 Thanks

 heith


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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread Josh Reynolds
I would use a sensor inside the drum. mFI would be able to do this, but 
you'd want a server to graph the data and display it. That said, if you 
get him hooked on mFi or something similar, you'll deploy a lot of those 
for friends of his I bet.


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 06/06/2014 02:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
Probably can do this with just a photo, might be an idea to keep 
consumption down



On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com 
mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:


Yeah I would gladly do a ptp to current ISP but there is none
close. These areas are real desolate. I think data rate price
could be ok as they intend to check once or twice day. In fact
they live 30 miles away so it's a pain to check manually or have a
neighbor check for them. They could easily pay Verizon $100 a
month and come out money ahead in fuel

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2014 5:08 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an
issue, yes this will work.

However you can also consider building them a small network using
900mhz eg to view the camera or tie this to their existing
internet (home or nearby) .

Just a thought.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *heith wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
*To: *wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] 4g router device

A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router
that operated on Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be
used for a back up at a remote site if you lost standard
access through your regular network. In the past week I have
had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could check
their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased
ground so there is no standard wireline or wisp in the area
and is way out of our service area.

Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we
gathered it would use an existing cell plan for the data
usage. I also heard that it could be used on Verizon  Sprint,
but ATT may be an issue. These places all have power at the
tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this
device, maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure
if the router was a viable product for this application

Thanks

heith


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Re: [WISPA] 4g router device

2014-06-06 Thread TJ Trout
and that would use NO data. probably a $2 monthly sprint bill


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  I would use a sensor inside the drum. mFI would be able to do this, but
 you'd want a server to graph the data and display it. That said, if you get
 him hooked on mFi or something similar, you'll deploy a lot of those for
 friends of his I bet.

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 06/06/2014 02:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

 Probably can do this with just a photo, might be an idea to keep
 consumption down


 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

  Yeah I would gladly do a ptp to current ISP but there is none close.
 These areas are real desolate. I think data rate price could be ok as they
 intend to check once or twice day. In fact they live 30 miles away so it’s
 a pain to check manually or have a neighbor check for them. They could
 easily pay Verizon $100 a month and come out money ahead in fuel



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2014 5:08 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g router device



 The Cell data Rate plans can get expensive if that is not an issue,
 yes this will work.



 However you can also consider building them a small network using 900mhz
 eg to view the camera or tie this to their existing internet (home or
 nearby) .



 Just a thought.



 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 305%20663%205518%20x%20232



 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


  --

 *From: *heith wi...@mncomm.com
 *To: *wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, June 6, 2014 5:58:58 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] 4g router device



 A while back in Vegas Baltic Networks had a mikrotik router that operated
 on Verizon or Sprint. We were told it could be used for a back up at a
 remote site if you lost standard access through your regular network. In
 the past week I have had 2 ranchers hit me for a solution where they could
 check their water tanks with camera. The ranch property is leased ground so
 there is no standard wireline or wisp in the area and is way out of our
 service area.



 Has anyone done anything similar to this? From what we gathered it would
 use an existing cell plan for the data usage. I also heard that it could be
 used on Verizon  Sprint, but ATT may be an issue. These places all have
 power at the tank/pumps, so we were just thinking a ubnt camera and this
 device, maybe a small battery backup, but we were just unsure if the router
 was a viable product for this application



 Thanks

 heith


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