Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
I know what Daniel was saying but the statement was 3 weeks to license but that's not the case Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date:01/13/2014 4:50 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios I believe what Daniel was referring to was the FCC. The coordination part was just saying that in addition to extra FCC fees, you may have extra coordination fees. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:51:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Thats great and all but here is the argument... Coordination is not licensing. There are coordinators out there that say you can start operating after the coordination is complete. The Commission says otherwise. Only the FCC can grant transmitter authorization and their position is that until authorization has been granted, operating otherwise is illegal. If someone can show me otherwise then by all means please do. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Daniel White Date:01/13/2014 2:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. Daniel White | Sales Manager West Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo sc...@flhsi.com Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org,WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
I thought you could do a rush on it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List ,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent*: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unityhttp://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder [image: Trade Show Internet logo]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us [image: LinkedIn]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson [image: Facebook]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet [image: Google Plus Page]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 [image: Twitter]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370] Daniel White | Sales Manager West Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.commailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List ,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 [http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg] From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netmailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.netmailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.commailto:i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder [Trade Show Internet logo]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us [LinkedIn] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson [Facebook] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet [Google Plus Page] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 [Twitter] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Thats great and all but here is the argument... Coordination is not licensing. There are coordinators out there that say you can start operating after the coordination is complete. The Commission says otherwise. Only the FCC can grant transmitter authorization and their position is that until authorization has been granted, operating otherwise is illegal. If someone can show me otherwise then by all means please do. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Daniel White daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Date:01/13/2014 2:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. Daniel White | Sales Manager West Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
On the coordination yes. On the licensing... no. Licensing is presently running 10-12 weeks Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date:01/13/2014 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: sc...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios I thought you could do a rush on it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List ,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
I believe what Daniel was referring to was the FCC. The coordination part was just saying that in addition to extra FCC fees, you may have extra coordination fees. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:51:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Thats great and all but here is the argument... Coordination is not licensing. There are coordinators out there that say you can start operating after the coordination is complete. The Commission says otherwise. Only the FCC can grant transmitter authorization and their position is that until authorization has been granted, operating otherwise is illegal. If someone can show me otherwise then by all means please do. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Daniel White Date:01/13/2014 2:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370 Daniel White | Sales Manager West Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Not their dual radio setup. But I've used a bunch of the Ligowave LigoPTP 5-N[23] PRO radios. They run the same W-jet polling. The unity just has a faster processor and two ethernet ports. In my experience and environment. A single radio was good for about 60-80Mb/s one way (30-40Mb/s Duplex). With a 20Mhz channel. Never tried it in 40Mhz. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Food for thought: If you want reliable, pick any two: Unlicensed, 11 miles, 200mbps FDX I suggest you look at 11ghz licensed. SAF or SIAE equipment can help do this for under $10k total. If you have to be unlicensed your going to need to find out what your 5725-5850mhz spectrum looks like on this path then look at products like Ligowave Unity or PTP650. These solutions are going to give an aggregate of 400mbps in perfect scenarios. But cost is going to be a factor and if the noise floor fluctuates you could have a serious degradation of throughput performance. Some questions you need to answer for yourself are: How critical is that speed of 200mbps FDX? What is the reliability requirements? Will you want more throughput in the future? Is latency an issue? Who is the customer and what are their expectations? Cheers, Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 01/07/2014 05:10 PM, Ian Framson wrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder Trade Show Internet logo http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.com http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.com http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us LinkedIn http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson Facebook http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet Google Plus Page http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 Twitter http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder [image: Trade Show Internet logo]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us [image: LinkedIn]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson [image: Facebook]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet [image: Google Plus Page]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 [image: Twitter]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely quiet in your area... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Its doable with the PTP650’s, add 3’ dishes for a nice rx gain Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christian Palecek Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely quiet in your area... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Ian Framson Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder [Trade Show Internet logo]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us [LinkedIn] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson [Facebook] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet [Google Plus Page] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 [Twitter] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.comwrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Ruben, We have a product called AB Full Access II . One of the very few FD-FDD radios left on the market. It s available in 5GHz band with high power transmitter which will help you to save antenna size. You can get 200mbps quite easy with that as Ethernet, TDM or fiber. I believe it will do the job for you Thanks Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 8:46 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.commailto:i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
As specified in http://www.axxcelera.com/product_item_detail.php?id=3050: - Capacity Options Ethernet*:* Up to 100Mbps full duplex plus 2 E1/T1 wayside 200 Mbps aggregate == 200 Mbps Half-Duplex, while the original poster stated a 200 Mbps Full-Duplex requirement. Rubens On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Ruben, We have a product called AB Full Access II . One of the very few FD-FDD radios left on the market. It s available in 5GHz band with high power transmitter which will help you to save antenna size. You can get 200mbps quite easy with that as Ethernet, TDM or fiber. I believe it will do the job for you Thanks Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 8:46 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.comwrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Ruben We have not updated this data sheet in a while, it specs out our older ODU. With new ODU you can go to maximum modem capacity 56MHz at 128QAM. As long as as long as link budget permits you will get full bandwidth with no degradation over distance. I believe you can get 2xSTM1 channels at full modem capacity Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 10:11 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: As specified in http://www.axxcelera.com/product_item_detail.php?id=3050: * Capacity Options Ethernet: Up to 100Mbps full duplex plus 2 E1/T1 wayside 200 Mbps aggregate == 200 Mbps Half-Duplex, while the original poster stated a 200 Mbps Full-Duplex requirement. Rubens On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Ruben, We have a product called AB Full Access II . One of the very few FD-FDD radios left on the market. It s available in 5GHz band with high power transmitter which will help you to save antenna size. You can get 200mbps quite easy with that as Ethernet, TDM or fiber. I believe it will do the job for you Thanks Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125tel:%28804%29%20864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192tel:%28440%29%20220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 8:46 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.commailto:rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.commailto:i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Ligowave PTP Unity 23 sounds good too. http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Abraços Siga a Computech no Twitter @computechloja @lucianofranz Compre direto pelo site: www.computechloja.com.br Em 07/01/2014, às 23:46, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
I believe the point is, unless that part of the data sheet is also out of date ( in which case why have a data sheet? ).. The IDU only has 10/100 ethernet and is going to be really pressed to do 200meg full duplex. And if you can do it through that please let all those UBNT owners who are limited by that know how! :) On 01/07/2014 07:20 PM, Freylekhman, Alex wrote: Ruben We have not updated this data sheet in a while, it specs out our older ODU. With new ODU you can go to maximum modem capacity 56MHz at 128QAM. As long as as long as link budget permits you will get full bandwidth with no degradation over distance. I believe you can get 2xSTM1 channels at full modem capacity Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 10:11 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: As specified in http://www.axxcelera.com/product_item_detail.php?id=3050: * Capacity Options Ethernet*:* Up to 100Mbps full duplex plus 2 E1/T1 wayside 200 Mbps aggregate == 200 Mbps Half-Duplex, while the original poster stated a 200 Mbps Full-Duplex requirement. Rubens On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Ruben, We have a product called AB Full Access II . One of the very few FD-FDD radios left on the market. It s available in 5GHz band with high power transmitter which will help you to save antenna size. You can get 200mbps quite easy with that as Ethernet, TDM or fiber. I believe it will do the job for you Thanks Alex Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 tel:%28804%29%20864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 tel:%28440%29%20220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com http://www.axxcelera.com On Jan 7, 2014 8:46 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com mailto:rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com mailto:i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote: Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s later in the year. Rubens ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
On 1/7/2014 8:29 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Its doable with the PTP650's, add 3' dishes for a nice rx gain I seem to recall a story several years ago, before Orthogon was bought by Moto, about a link somewhere in Central America (Nicaragua or Panama?) that used a pair of 5.8 GHz Orthogon radios, 6 foot dishes, and went over 100 miles. Hilltops and a really big dish will do wonders. Licensed 6 GHz radios, with their 6' dishes, are considered very reliable out to 30 miles. An unlicensed link is not protected against interference the same way but several of the 5.8 GHz options seem plausible. But I wouldn't touch 24 GHz. It's ground zero for rain fade, so long hops there are only useful on sunny days, best in the desert. ;-) The adjacent 23 GHz licensed band has less rain fade, though, and is worth considering, and it should be duck soup on 18 GHz, though again licensed radios cost a bit more, especially the higher-powered or higher-speed options. We're shooting a DragonWave 18 GHz hop about 8 miles across Boston Hahbah and it's very solid, though extreme weather might cause some dropouts. We didn't see any during this past week's snow, though signals faded a few dB during yesterday's rain. Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Christian Palecek *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:21 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely quiet in your area... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Ian Framson Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder Trade Show Internet logo http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.com http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.com http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile/ /(415) 704-3153 fax Connect With UsLinkedIn http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FianframsonFacebook http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternetGoogle Plus Page http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934Twitter http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Ian, I assume for BridgeWave you meant their AR60 (or AR60X). The 60GHz frequency band is not really designed to work past 1/3 of a mile. But for your close in shots they are great radios for delivering GigE Full Duplex (and it is an unlicensed band). Assuming your links are temporary... then 5GHz radios are your best bet. Guaranteeing 200Mbps Full Duplex will be hard to do though without knowing the noise floor in your area you will deploy (and of course... since the band is unlicensed, someone can fire up a transmitter the next day that may knock you off the air). 24GHz... even in the best of cases... is not a good solution at that distance. 24GHz should be a 3 mile and under band... 5 miles best case. If they are permanent... 11GHz licensed radios would be the best way to guarantee 200Mbps Full Duplex service. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370] Daniel White | Sales Manager West Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.commailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ian Framson Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder [Trade Show Internet logo]http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com www.tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com%2F i...@tradeshowinternet.comhttp://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=mailto%3Aian%40tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us [LinkedIn] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fianframson [Facebook] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTradeShowInternet [Google Plus Page] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F115903484193884732934 [Twitter] http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTSInternet inline: image001.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
