Re: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

2006-04-08 Thread Pete Davis




Since the original post listed using CM9's, its possible that Antenna
A/Antenna B selection is incorrect. 





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  Is it possible the u.fl connectors have come loose? I have had a few issues w/
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

David,

I was afraid I sounded like a newbie...  Anyway, I've had the radios on
different channels and the same ones; would this effect the signal
strength or the s/n ratio?  Signal strength is where the problem is.
Also I wasn't worried that the coax or antennas were damaged, the radio
itself was my worry .  I tried both polarities on the antenna I was
testing with.

David E. Smith wrote:


  Jason wrote:


  
  
I have a difficult question for the list.  I was testing my 1st
routerboard/mikrotik ap this evening with terrible results.  Let me give
you the rundown of what I have and what has happened.


  
  [ snip: a fairly typical kinda setup ]

Forgive me for going through all the really obvious newbie stuff, but the
sooner we can rule it out, the sooner we can get to the juicy stuff. :)

Are the three APs on the same channel, or three different channels? And
are they using the same SSID or different ones? Also, did you make sure
your rootenna was correctly polarized to point to the AP?


  
  
One other thing which might be the cause is that while I was setting up
the mikrotik/routerboard I activated the 3 cm9 radios not realizing that
they were set for the 5 Ghz band.  They were probably like that for an
hour until I got to that part of the setup.  Perhaps something is wrong
now or are the cm9's forgiving?


  
  That shouldn't be a problem. The CM9 will change over to the new frequency
pretty much immediately, and I can't imagine how running the AP on the
wrong channel would have damaged the coax run or the antenna. (Not saying
it's impossible, just very unlikely IMO.)

David Smith
MVN.net

  

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RE: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

2006-04-08 Thread danlist
Is it possible the u.fl connectors have come loose? I have had a few issues w/
the u.fl connection coming slightly loose during the tower climb - 

Thanks


Dan Metcalf
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Jason
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:04 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...
> 
> David,
> 
> I was afraid I sounded like a newbie...  Anyway, I've had the radios on
> different channels and the same ones; would this effect the signal
> strength or the s/n ratio?  Signal strength is where the problem is.
> Also I wasn't worried that the coax or antennas were damaged, the radio
> itself was my worry .  I tried both polarities on the antenna I was
> testing with.
> 
> David E. Smith wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I have a difficult question for the list.  I was testing my 1st
> >> routerboard/mikrotik ap this evening with terrible results.  Let me give
> >> you the rundown of what I have and what has happened.
> >>
> >
> > [ snip: a fairly typical kinda setup ]
> >
> > Forgive me for going through all the really obvious newbie stuff, but the
> > sooner we can rule it out, the sooner we can get to the juicy stuff. :)
> >
> > Are the three APs on the same channel, or three different channels? And
> > are they using the same SSID or different ones? Also, did you make sure
> > your rootenna was correctly polarized to point to the AP?
> >
> >
> >> One other thing which might be the cause is that while I was setting up
> >> the mikrotik/routerboard I activated the 3 cm9 radios not realizing that
> >> they were set for the 5 Ghz band.  They were probably like that for an
> >> hour until I got to that part of the setup.  Perhaps something is wrong
> >> now or are the cm9's forgiving?
> >>
> >
> > That shouldn't be a problem. The CM9 will change over to the new frequency
> > pretty much immediately, and I can't imagine how running the AP on the
> > wrong channel would have damaged the coax run or the antenna. (Not saying
> > it's impossible, just very unlikely IMO.)
> >
> > David Smith
> > MVN.net
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

2006-04-08 Thread Jason

David,

I was afraid I sounded like a newbie...  Anyway, I've had the radios on 
different channels and the same ones; would this effect the signal 
strength or the s/n ratio?  Signal strength is where the problem is.  
Also I wasn't worried that the coax or antennas were damaged, the radio 
itself was my worry .  I tried both polarities on the antenna I was 
testing with.


David E. Smith wrote:

Jason wrote:

  

I have a difficult question for the list.  I was testing my 1st
routerboard/mikrotik ap this evening with terrible results.  Let me give
you the rundown of what I have and what has happened.



[ snip: a fairly typical kinda setup ]

Forgive me for going through all the really obvious newbie stuff, but the
sooner we can rule it out, the sooner we can get to the juicy stuff. :)

Are the three APs on the same channel, or three different channels? And
are they using the same SSID or different ones? Also, did you make sure
your rootenna was correctly polarized to point to the AP?

  

One other thing which might be the cause is that while I was setting up
the mikrotik/routerboard I activated the 3 cm9 radios not realizing that
they were set for the 5 Ghz band.  They were probably like that for an
hour until I got to that part of the setup.  Perhaps something is wrong
now or are the cm9's forgiving?



That shouldn't be a problem. The CM9 will change over to the new frequency
pretty much immediately, and I can't imagine how running the AP on the
wrong channel would have damaged the coax run or the antenna. (Not saying
it's impossible, just very unlikely IMO.)

David Smith
MVN.net
  

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Re: [WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

2006-04-07 Thread David E. Smith
Jason wrote:

> I have a difficult question for the list.  I was testing my 1st
> routerboard/mikrotik ap this evening with terrible results.  Let me give
> you the rundown of what I have and what has happened.

[ snip: a fairly typical kinda setup ]

Forgive me for going through all the really obvious newbie stuff, but the
sooner we can rule it out, the sooner we can get to the juicy stuff. :)

Are the three APs on the same channel, or three different channels? And
are they using the same SSID or different ones? Also, did you make sure
your rootenna was correctly polarized to point to the AP?

> One other thing which might be the cause is that while I was setting up
> the mikrotik/routerboard I activated the 3 cm9 radios not realizing that
> they were set for the 5 Ghz band.  They were probably like that for an
> hour until I got to that part of the setup.  Perhaps something is wrong
> now or are the cm9's forgiving?

That shouldn't be a problem. The CM9 will change over to the new frequency
pretty much immediately, and I can't imagine how running the AP on the
wrong channel would have damaged the coax run or the antenna. (Not saying
it's impossible, just very unlikely IMO.)

David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Big trouble with my first AP...

2006-04-07 Thread Jason

Gents & ladies,

   I have a difficult question for the list.  I was testing my 1st 
routerboard/mikrotik ap this evening with terrible results.  Let me give 
you the rundown of what I have and what has happened.


Setup:
1 mikrotik routerboard 532 combo
3 cm9 minipci radios configured to 18 dbm via mikrotik
17.5 feet of lmr-400 from each radio to...
3 teletronics 19dbi horizontally polarized, 8 deg vertical beam width, 
120deg sector antennas

   See the antenna here: http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html

My problem is that no where within 2 miles of the antennas can I get a 
signal better than -85 db.  A senao in a rootenna mounted 50 ' away 
through a steel roof and pointing the wrong direction gives me -70 db on 
my laptop card?!?  Is there something I'm missing. 

One other thing which might be the cause is that while I was setting up 
the mikrotik/routerboard I activated the 3 cm9 radios not realizing that 
they were set for the 5 Ghz band.  They were probably like that for an 
hour until I got to that part of the setup.  Perhaps something is wrong 
now or are the cm9's forgiving?


Another thought I has is that the teletronics antennas are just not very 
good.  Has anyone else tried them?  Results?


Is there a way to measure conducted output power at the antenna end of 
the coax?  I could verify the radio output that way.  Or a microwave 
field strength measurement I can do (spectrum analyzer?)?


Any ideas guys

Jason
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