Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.
Tom, thanks!... my goal here is to give a bit and get a LOT... and so i am fully willing and open to making all wisps comfortable with the map so that we can ALL get that 40-60k unique visitors PER DAY. On 8/30/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert, > > > >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED > > >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. > > >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." > > That would be golden. Or similar, that solves the same purpsoe to > distinquish the appropriateness of each technology to the user's need. > > I'll add a hidden link, I see no risk in that. I'll think about wether It > makes since to add a visible link. I'm still partial. But I might. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points. > > > John, thanks for your positive comments... > As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE > People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under "wireless > internet" > > they are NOT finding what they are looking for > > #1 = > http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html > #10= > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm > > Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the > consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to > someone on dialup wanting faster speed. > > So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool > are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing > to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together... > happily :o) > > > > RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost > done.. :o) hang in there... bob > > > > RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS > JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few > point for you and let you know what i did.. > > > > > On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting > > us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have > > tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I > > am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a > > good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy > > to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to > > post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to > > look through archives or old email messages to find the steps. > > Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically. > > Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on > > this beta effort. > > All the best, > > John Scrivner > > > > > > Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: > > > > >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing > > >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? > > > > > >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... > > > > > >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the > > >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's > > >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. > > > > > >2nd. > > >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to > > >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless > > >Internet" > > > > > >So... IF > > > > > >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more > > >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you > > >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe > > >deal. > > > > > >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just > > >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" > > >text link... > > > > > >___ > > >3rd. > > > > > >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT > > >need to compete... > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.
Robert, >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." That would be golden. Or similar, that solves the same purpsoe to distinquish the appropriateness of each technology to the user's need. I'll add a hidden link, I see no risk in that. I'll think about wether It makes since to add a visible link. I'm still partial. But I might. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points. John, thanks for your positive comments... As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under "wireless internet" they are NOT finding what they are looking for #1 = http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html #10= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to someone on dialup wanting faster speed. So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together... happily :o) RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost done.. :o) hang in there... bob RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few point for you and let you know what i did.. On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to look through archives or old email messages to find the steps. Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically. Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on this beta effort. All the best, John Scrivner Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? > >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... > >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. > >2nd. >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless >Internet" > >So... IF > >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe >deal. > >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" >text link... > >___ >3rd. > >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT >need to compete... > >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/84 - Release Date: 8/29/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.
John, thanks for your positive comments... As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under "wireless internet" they are NOT finding what they are looking for #1 = http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html #10= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to someone on dialup wanting faster speed. So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together... happily :o) RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost done.. :o) hang in there... bob RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few point for you and let you know what i did.. On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting > us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have > tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I > am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a > good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy > to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to > post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to > look through archives or old email messages to find the steps. > Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically. > Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on > this beta effort. > All the best, > John Scrivner > > > Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: > > >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing > >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? > > > >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... > > > >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the > >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's > >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. > > > >2nd. > >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to > >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless > >Internet" > > > >So... IF > > > >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more > >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you > >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe > >deal. > > > >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just > >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" > >text link... > > > >___ > >3rd. > > > >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT > >need to compete... > > > >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED > >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. > >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." > > > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
I think it would be good to have a way to remove entries for WISPs if we wish. I wold encourage a username and password system for this however. Not to load you down with work. Just want this to be a success for us all. Thanks, Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. 2nd. MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless Internet" So... IF your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe deal. IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" text link... ___ 3rd. IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT need to compete... I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to look through archives or old email messages to find the steps. Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically. Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on this beta effort. All the best, John Scrivner Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. 2nd. MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless Internet" So... IF your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe deal. IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" text link... ___ 3rd. IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT need to compete... I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning? Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's sites are pointing to the WISP MAP. 2nd. MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless Internet" So... IF your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe deal. IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet" text link... ___ 3rd. IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT need to compete... I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower. It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs." -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
I'm not that worried about other WISP competition. Generally they already do their best to find what other WISP might be in town and call for a compeitive quote before closing. Plus we general pass referrals back and forth when we can't serve someone and we know our neighbor can. When referring to losing a web client to competition, I was referring to sending them to a sight that had EVDO. Its more likely that EVDO will be deploying every where that we would also deploy as we are in a urban/suburban environment. I'd argue that ILECS would make an effort to deploy where there was a WISP apposed to avoid them. There are many reasons why someone might want to chose a WISP over EVDO or EVDO over a WISP, and I'm a firm believer in the right service for the right job. But unfortuneately, customers rarely know what they want, nor understand how to differenciate through misleading marketing material on web sites. Customer awareness is still a problem. People will buy a Verizon service over a WISP solution if they are given a choice without a chance for the WISP to help explain the differenciating features, because people believe in what they are familiar with and frequent advertising they see. I frequently refer people tht we can't serve or that do not meet our profile to EVDO services, but I don't want that to happen before we make our pitch to them, so they get a fair overview to compare. So my point still stands, I'd be a fool to steer traffic away from my site, if I had it already, to a site that offered competitor services. Just my opinion. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL Team.. sorry about my long absence... i'm back now.. Here are the reasons why i believe that linking to ONE website: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ will be beneficial to all participants. Tom, ok... why steer them away:... 1. your biz's are geo specific. so.. even if your guests went to the map... they'd only find you again anyways... 2. If you wish... since we are the original members of this map project.. i can restrict new wisps to ONLY add their locations IF they are not competing with your territories.. Personally, my interest is in mapping regions... NOT creating intraregional competition 3. chances are .. NOBODY will click on the link... just having the words "wireless internet" is not leading ... ___ As for why these specific terms "Wireless Internet" = 800,000 people /m search this in google "wisp" = 50,000 people search for this in google per month. So, I'd rather opt for the higher traffic front page. http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion ___ As for WHY NOT burried at bottom of webpage... ok... this is how google works... (all caps used for italics) and for your own search marketing.. this is important to know.. remember... google is the NEW Yellow pages.. google ranks websites based on (in this order) 1) link terms -> search query matches so... if a million websites like to your site as link: RELIABLE -> http://reliableinter.net THEN, if someone goes into google and types "RELIABLE" you're website is likely to come up top ten. under that word... BUT... what you WANT is to be found under a search for "wireless internet" since you're far more likely to have a qualified lead this way. 2) Key Word Frequency So, If you are a wisp, then in plain Html, the word "WISP" needs to be at about 17% of the total volume of your home page... 3) Key Word Placement Tom, this addresses your question... google ranks sites based on NOT ONLY QUANTITY but also, LOCATION of words... so... a word or a link at the top of the page will get more "points" than a link at the bottom. I can certainly get you Google Stats... Yahoo stats are self serve and very similar to googles.. so... just take the number of visitors you see here: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion and multiply by 20X to see how many people would see your website ... (google gets about 20X more traffic than Yahoo for tech issues) On 8/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understood it like this. We all put those words on our site. Then google will rank those words "wireless internet" really high in hits and send everyone to the evdo wisp site. But if all we need is the words, like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see them and go get dsl?/?? Tom DeReggi wrote: > Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in > our service from our w
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
Robert, Would you please remove my entries off your map? They arent remotely close to where I placed them weeks ago and I was very careful as to where they were added. I think all of mine are in Louisiana, but I see one in S. Eastern Texas that has a Illinois addy. I will put them back in when you get things lined out. Thanks, Mac Dearman www.inetsouth.com Maximum Access, LLC. "High Speed Internet for the South" 318-728-8600 318-450-4101 NOC Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Team.. sorry about my long absence... i'm back now.. Here are the reasons why i believe that linking to ONE website: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ will be beneficial to all participants. Tom, ok... why steer them away:... 1. your biz's are geo specific. so.. even if your guests went to the map... they'd only find you again anyways... 2. If you wish... since we are the original members of this map project.. i can restrict new wisps to ONLY add their locations IF they are not competing with your territories.. Personally, my interest is in mapping regions... NOT creating intraregional competition 3. chances are .. NOBODY will click on the link... just having the words "wireless internet" is not leading ... ___ As for why these specific terms "Wireless Internet" = 800,000 people /m search this in google "wisp" = 50,000 people search for this in google per month. So, I'd rather opt for the higher traffic front page. http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion ___ As for WHY NOT burried at bottom of webpage... ok... this is how google works... (all caps used for italics) and for your own search marketing.. this is important to know.. remember... google is the NEW Yellow pages.. google ranks websites based on (in this order) 1) link terms -> search query matches so... if a million websites like to your site as link: RELIABLE -> http://reliableinter.net THEN, if someone goes into google and types "RELIABLE" you're website is likely to come up top ten. under that word... BUT... what you WANT is to be found under a search for "wireless internet" since you're far more likely to have a qualified lead this way. 2) Key Word Frequency So, If you are a wisp, then in plain Html, the word "WISP" needs to be at about 17% of the total volume of your home page... 3) Key Word Placement Tom, this addresses your question... google ranks sites based on NOT ONLY QUANTITY but also, LOCATION of words... so... a word or a link at the top of the page will get more "points" than a link at the bottom. I can certainly get you Google Stats... Yahoo stats are self serve and very similar to googles.. so... just take the number of visitors you see here: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion and multiply by 20X to see how many people would see your website ... (google gets about 20X more traffic than Yahoo for tech issues) On 8/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understood it like this. We all put those words on our site. Then google will rank those words "wireless internet" really high in hits and send everyone to the evdo wisp site. But if all we need is the words, like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see them and go get dsl?/?? Tom DeReggi wrote: Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors (as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back to our site again afterwards? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too... to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map... (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.) ... I want your help ... ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the site within about 2 months MARKETING PROPOSAL: THREE things: 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it is.. see http://linkpopularity.com ) as LITTERALLY: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless Internet WHY? Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
Team.. sorry about my long absence... i'm back now.. Here are the reasons why i believe that linking to ONE website: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ will be beneficial to all participants. Tom, ok... why steer them away:... 1. your biz's are geo specific. so.. even if your guests went to the map... they'd only find you again anyways... 2. If you wish... since we are the original members of this map project.. i can restrict new wisps to ONLY add their locations IF they are not competing with your territories.. Personally, my interest is in mapping regions... NOT creating intraregional competition 3. chances are .. NOBODY will click on the link... just having the words "wireless internet" is not leading ... ___ As for why these specific terms "Wireless Internet" = 800,000 people /m search this in google "wisp" = 50,000 people search for this in google per month. So, I'd rather opt for the higher traffic front page. http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion ___ As for WHY NOT burried at bottom of webpage... ok... this is how google works... (all caps used for italics) and for your own search marketing.. this is important to know.. remember... google is the NEW Yellow pages.. google ranks websites based on (in this order) 1) link terms -> search query matches so... if a million websites like to your site as link: RELIABLE -> http://reliableinter.net THEN, if someone goes into google and types "RELIABLE" you're website is likely to come up top ten. under that word... BUT... what you WANT is to be found under a search for "wireless internet" since you're far more likely to have a qualified lead this way. 2) Key Word Frequency So, If you are a wisp, then in plain Html, the word "WISP" needs to be at about 17% of the total volume of your home page... 3) Key Word Placement Tom, this addresses your question... google ranks sites based on NOT ONLY QUANTITY but also, LOCATION of words... so... a word or a link at the top of the page will get more "points" than a link at the bottom. I can certainly get you Google Stats... Yahoo stats are self serve and very similar to googles.. so... just take the number of visitors you see here: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion and multiply by 20X to see how many people would see your website ... (google gets about 20X more traffic than Yahoo for tech issues) On 8/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understood it like this. We all put those words on our site. Then > google will rank those words "wireless internet" really high in hits and > send everyone to the evdo wisp site. But if all we need is the words, > like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see > them and go get dsl?/?? > > Tom DeReggi wrote: > > > Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in > > our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors > > (as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back > > to our site again afterwards? > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet > > Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "wispa" > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL > > > > > > OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive > > traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too... > > > > to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map... > > (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the > > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.) > > ... I want your help ... > > ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the > > site within about 2 months > > > > MARKETING PROPOSAL: > > THREE things: > > > > 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites > > (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it > > is.. see http://linkpopularity.com ) > > as LITTERALLY: > > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless > > Internet > > > > WHY? > > Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on > > WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like > > "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google > > "see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's > > really
Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
I understood it like this. We all put those words on our site. Then google will rank those words "wireless internet" really high in hits and send everyone to the evdo wisp site. But if all we need is the words, like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see them and go get dsl?/?? Tom DeReggi wrote: Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors (as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back to our site again afterwards? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too... to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map... (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.) ... I want your help ... ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the site within about 2 months MARKETING PROPOSAL: THREE things: 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it is.. see http://linkpopularity.com ) as LITTERALLY: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless Internet WHY? Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google "see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's really gunna search for "see other wisps here"??? People mainly search for "wireless internet" or "wireless internet service" So.. that's why the code above is limited to the words "wireless internet". If you want, i can provide google search request starts for words like "wireless internet" vs. "wisp" vs "wireless dsl." I can show how much traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want. 2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and word of mouth... 3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with 10 gallons of traffic daily. Looking forward to our mutual greater success... Let me know what pages you linked from too... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors (as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back to our site again afterwards? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too... to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map... (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.) ... I want your help ... ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the site within about 2 months MARKETING PROPOSAL: THREE things: 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it is.. see http://linkpopularity.com ) as LITTERALLY: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless Internet WHY? Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google "see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's really gunna search for "see other wisps here"??? People mainly search for "wireless internet" or "wireless internet service" So.. that's why the code above is limited to the words "wireless internet". If you want, i can provide google search request starts for words like "wireless internet" vs. "wisp" vs "wireless dsl." I can show how much traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want. 2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and word of mouth... 3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with 10 gallons of traffic daily. Looking forward to our mutual greater success... Let me know what pages you linked from too... -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too... to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map... (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.) ... I want your help ... ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the site within about 2 months MARKETING PROPOSAL: THREE things: 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it is.. see http://linkpopularity.com ) as LITTERALLY: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless Internet WHY? Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google "see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's really gunna search for "see other wisps here"??? People mainly search for "wireless internet" or "wireless internet service" So.. that's why the code above is limited to the words "wireless internet". If you want, i can provide google search request starts for words like "wireless internet" vs. "wisp" vs "wireless dsl." I can show how much traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want. 2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and word of mouth... 3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with 10 gallons of traffic daily. Looking forward to our mutual greater success... Let me know what pages you linked from too... -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
