Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
I used MT with Wireless Orbit. Worked well but had UI limitations and I
still did not have central control of the network.
UniFi now does billing (page 9 on user guide) and the next version will
support limited mass device changes.
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:
MikroTik with Radius Manager works fairly well.
You can enable the trial account under the Hotspot in MikroTik and use
Radius Manager to manage paid users.
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I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:
Need to provide two levels of service
Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
monthly service
Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.
Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.
I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
cost is OK if necessary.
So, any suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
MikroTik with Radius Manager works fairly well. You can enable the trial account under the Hotspot in MikroTik and use Radius Manager to manage paid users. [NETAGO-INTERNET_DNP] Bryce Duchcherer bduc...@netago.camailto:bduc...@netago.ca WWW.NETAGO.CA From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Does unifi handle the portal/billing or is it just the wifi ap side of it? It does seem like a well regarded system. I found wireless orbit last night, looks like a nice solution for the radius/billing side of it, coupled with a tik hotspot router. We do have a vmware box in our NOC that we could use to host unifi controller or a radius solution. I was trying to avoid that because our guaranteed income from this project is not much and servers mean maintenance/upkeep to me. On Jul 11, 2013 12:42 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives. You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
UniFi just does AP management, e.g. SSIDs, session length, up/down throttle speeds. Integration with a payment processor is done by pointing the APs to your own hotspot server, which would hand off auth request to the UniFi controller after authorizing the user and/or collecting payment. Here's a howto about doing this with Paypal: http://wiki.ubnt.com/UniFi_and_Paypal_Integration Indeed there are already complete solutions out there which do handle payments. I think UniFi's strength is that it is works reliably for what it does, and it's provided freely by UBNT. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: Does unifi handle the portal/billing or is it just the wifi ap side of it? It does seem like a well regarded system. I found wireless orbit last night, looks like a nice solution for the radius/billing side of it, coupled with a tik hotspot router. We do have a vmware box in our NOC that we could use to host unifi controller or a radius solution. I was trying to avoid that because our guaranteed income from this project is not much and servers mean maintenance/upkeep to me. On Jul 11, 2013 12:42 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives. You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
Just a correction, you do not have to run the UniFi controller on the same LAN segment as the APs. Check the UniFi wiki for instructions on setting up the controller in Amazon Web Services. If you are using an MT probably the easiest way to do it is make sure that 'unifi' resolves to the controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43, instructions again found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3) Management On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote: I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives. You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net mailto:b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
yep, the DHCP option is a life saver Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software Just a correction, you do not have to run the UniFi controller on the same LAN segment as the APs.Check the UniFi wiki for instructions on setting up the controller in Amazon Web Services. If you are using an MT probably the easiest way to do it is make sure that 'unifi' resolves to the controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43, instructions again found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3) Management On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote: I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives.You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget
[WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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UBNT unifi You'll have to replace the APs with unifi APs but they are cheep enough to stay within your budget. It has all the features you listed and then some. Sean On Wednesday, July 10, 2013, Chris Fabien wrote: I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives. You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
