[WISPA] Leasing IP classes?

2006-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Hey folks,

I was wondering if anyone knew of companies that lease class C's to small
ISP's looking for the ablity to announce the leased IP classes as their own
As to avoid being locked in to a specific provider. Please let me know
If you know of anyone.

Best,

Jeff Booher


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Re: [WISPA] Leasing IP classes?

2006-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Arin isnt an option I don't think because these guys arent multi-homed yet.

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Jeff



On 4/25/06 9:35 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Tue, April 25, 2006 11:26 am, Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anyone knew of companies that lease class C's to small
 ISP's looking for the ablity to announce the leased IP classes as their
 own
 As to avoid being locked in to a specific provider. Please let me know
 If you know of anyone.
 
 I can't think of anyone that does that, mostly because it'd be a pain in
 the ass to get those IPs routed properly. There are just too many BGP
 speakers out there that don't properly handle un-aggregated BGP
 announcements, and do other silly things.
 
 Your best bet, if you're big enough, is to get a direct allocation from
 ARIN (assuming you're in the United States or Canadia). If you're
 multihomed, like you probably should be :D you can get allocations as long
 as a /22 (four class Cs). If not, I think the minimum allocation is a /20
 (sixteen class Cs).
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net


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Re: [WISPA] Leasing IP classes?

2006-04-25 Thread David E. Smith

On Tue, April 25, 2006 11:40 am, Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
 Arin isnt an option I don't think because these guys arent multi-homed
 yet.

And I take it they're not yet big enough to be able to justify a /20
allocation?

Yeah, in that case, they'll probably have to live with IP space from their
upstream provider for the time being. Due to the problems it can cause
(weird routing issues, BGP hiccups, polluting the global routing table) I
doubt too many ISPs will lease you just IP space. I know I wouldn't do
it... :)

They might be able to talk the current upstream into doing something like
this (presumably they've already given a dedicated allocation for now,
since they're current customers) and letting you retain that space if you
later switch ISPs, but even that's pretty darned iffy.

David Smith
MVN.net
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