RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-30 Thread Charles Wu
Tom,

Contact me offlist -- I know someone who can probably help you (he does
custom work for University astronomy arrays)
Cheap is a relative term =/

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Tom,
I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They
have remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is
you can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short section
of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna rotor.
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, from
each of our Master Cell Sites

1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
connection).

The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet loss
or rssi,

1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing gear
that interfers without getting pre-approved)

2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
(offline).

By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting point
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would REALLY
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some camera
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong enough
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought is
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
cost effective way to accomplish this? (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost,
lowest cost, so I can afford to replicate the solution at about 20
locations)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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[WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, from 
each of our Master Cell Sites


1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
connection).


The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet loss 
or rssi,


1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof 
of our cell site.
 (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing gear 
that interfers without getting pre-approved)


2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
(offline).


By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm 
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the 
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to 
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting point 
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would REALLY 
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at 
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some camera 
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some 
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached. 
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself. 
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong enough 
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought is 
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections, 
If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.


Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Brian Webster
Tom,
I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short section
of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna rotor.
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, from
each of our Master Cell Sites

1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
connection).

The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet loss
or rssi,

1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing gear
that interfers without getting pre-approved)

2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
(offline).

By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting point
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would REALLY
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some camera
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong enough
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought is
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread pswired
I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got an IP
camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you could
wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
rotates, of course.

Patrick

 Tom,
   I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
 remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
 can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
 rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
 section
 of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
 rotor.
 Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
 that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
 from
 each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
 loss
 or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
 of our cell site.
   (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
 gear
 that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
 point
 in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
 REALLY
 be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
 the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
 camera
 may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
 solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
 Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
 Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
 enough
 that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought
 is
 that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
 If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Brett Hays

Wow, an ethernet slip ring...bet that could cause all sorts of problems.

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I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got an IP
camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you could
wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
rotates, of course.

Patrick


Tom,
I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
section
of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
rotor.
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this 
but

that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
from
each of our Master Cell Sites

1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
connection).

The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
loss
or rssi,

1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the 
roof

of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
gear
that interfers without getting pre-approved)

2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
(offline).

By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help 
confirm
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of 
the
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction 
to

prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
point
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
REALLY
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
camera
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
enough
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought
is
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera 
connections,

If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread J. Vogel
It looks to me like all that is needed is a slip ring for power. Surely
a WISP will
be able to figure out how to get data to/from the rotating units without
using wires.
:)

John


Brett Hays wrote:

 Wow, an ethernet slip ring...bet that could cause all sorts of problems.

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 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got
 an IP
 camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you
 could
 wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
 rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
 cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
 ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
 your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
 rotates, of course.

 Patrick

 Tom,
 I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
 remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be
 is you
 can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
 rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
 section
 of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
 rotor.
 Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does
 this but
 that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
 from
 each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely
 over IP
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
 loss
 or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on
 the roof
 of our cell site.
   (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
 gear
 that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to
 find the
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help
 confirm
 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One
 of the
 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one
 direction to
 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
 point
 in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
 REALLY
 be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could
 yell at
 the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
 camera
 may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
 solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
 Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
 Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
 enough
 that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My
 thought
 is
 that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera
 connections,
 If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the
 most
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
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 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Kerns

Tom,

You might consider using a TV antenna rotor, the degree of motion may not be 
as  fine as you desire, but I'm sure you could modify the controls to work 
off a relay. Also, dlink has a couple cameras that not only have audio in, 
but with an amp'd speaker can have audio out. They do have limited 
connections to control a relay, I think one or 2. Using a couple micro 
switches you could also control the rotation to prevent more than 360 
degrees, but I believe the TV rotor also prevents this.


Another thought is you may be able to use the pan and tilt circuitry to 
control a TV rotor? These can be controlled over Ethernet or through a 
wireless camera connection.


Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, 
from each of our Master Cell Sites


1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
connection).


The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet 
loss or rssi,


1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof 
of our cell site.
 (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing 
gear that interfers without getting pre-approved)


2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
(offline).


By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm 
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the 
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to 
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting 
point in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would 
REALLY be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could 
yell at the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that 
some camera may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as 
some solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera 
attached. Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole 
itself. Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and 
strong enough that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up. 
My thought is that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP 
Camera connections, If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.


Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
I've used a variety of D-Link cameras and find that they all have locked up
from time to time...requiring power cycling.  They haven't been adequate for
reliable operation.  Perhaps they've improved.

I have switched to a Panasonic BL-C30A Wi-Fi camera and been very, very
happy.  It has never failed to recover all by itself from any hiccup in the
wireless environment or power environment.  Plus, the images are clearer,
the dynamic range (illumination) is superior, the Wi-Fi range is better, and
the thing is able to be remotely controlled horizontally through nearly 180
degrees and vertically through nearly 90 degrees.  This doesn't have audio,
however.

Oh, on the D-Link cameras...at least the DSC types I used...the security is
easily circumvented.  I had a bunch up and my son called from the East Coast
and said that he wrote a script to capture the images every 10 minutes and
then realized he'd forgotten to put the password in.  It didn't matter.
Although the standard, direct HTTP access does have the login with password,
the script isn't challenged for one.

. . . j o n a t h a n



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Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

Tom,

You might consider using a TV antenna rotor, the degree of motion may not be

as  fine as you desire, but I'm sure you could modify the controls to work 
off a relay. Also, dlink has a couple cameras that not only have audio in, 
but with an amp'd speaker can have audio out. They do have limited 
connections to control a relay, I think one or 2. Using a couple micro 
switches you could also control the rotation to prevent more than 360 
degrees, but I believe the TV rotor also prevents this.

Another thought is you may be able to use the pan and tilt circuitry to 
control a TV rotor? These can be controlled over Ethernet or through a 
wireless camera connection.

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, 
 from each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet 
 loss or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof

 of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing 
 gear that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm

 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the

 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to

 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting 
 point in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would

 REALLY be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could 
 yell at the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that 
 some camera may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as 
 some solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera 
 attached. Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole 
 itself. Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and 
 strong enough that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.

 My thought is that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP 
 Camera connections, If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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