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I dunno Marlon. There's nowhere to run. Everywhere else in the world is going to be worse off than here. A few days ago I read one of those "investor intelligence" sites and the author had pointed out that the middle east is buying gold. Hundreds of billions of dollars worth from many different nations. They're going to try to create a new gold-backed currency and demand everyone buy oil with their currency... for the rest of us that means gold. You know that won't work. Currently, money is fleeing the hedge funds and mutual funds and money market funds and is being tossed into federal bonds. That means, basically, that the world has stopped investing, and is likely out of cash or has decided to not part with it. It takes little to no imagination to realize that our government's not going to be able to borrow a lot more without running the interest rate up. At that point, if we print money... hyperinflation. If we don't, deflation. Either way, our industry is totaly dependent upon imports and imports are just not going to be happening if our money is worthless overseas. We'd be far wiser to invest in PRODUCTION capabilities here, so we can still have an industry. If you can't buy equipment, your business is hosed. What would it take to put something that's "standardized" and "commoditized" into production? I, for one, am paying off my home, cars, what little credit cards I have over the next 6 months. And not going to into debt again. Sadly, our governments (federal state and local) consume over 40% of everything we produce. We need to cut that back to half or less, so we can both invest and buy, and pay our debts as citizens and producers. and we need to let the non-productive stuff fold, and let everything that produces wealth go as unhindered as possible. But nobody is talking about that. Nope, they've whipped out the plastic and intend to spend 5 trillion this year alone, at the federal level... out of a 14 trillion dollar economy. It's insanity. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more > money > to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market > investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to > help > anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even > tighter. > > After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as > high > as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one > should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying > as > they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. > > Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull > that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT > tight > for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want > to > be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my > competitors at the fire sales. > > More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend > money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely > again. > > So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If > (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much > of > it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. > > In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive > government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a > colony on the moon? > > deep sigh > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq) WISP Operator since > 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Bartosch" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) >> >> That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >>> >>> Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. >>> Just my silly obsevation :) >>> -RickG >>> >>>
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Latency would likely be an issue though. Not sure how well VoIP would work. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Signal loss should be pretty low. Sure we could easily do 80GHz so need some 80Ghz ptmp radios so we can get a few hundred mbit each ;) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:19 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money > to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market > investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help > anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even > tighter. > > After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high > as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one > should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as > they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. > > Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull > that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight > for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to > be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my > competitors at the fire sales. > > More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend > money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. > > So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If > (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of > it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. > > In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive > government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a > colony on the moon? > > deep sigh > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Bartosch" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) >> >> That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >>> >>> Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. >>> Just my silly obsevation :) >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch >>> wrote: >>>> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. >>>> No, >>>> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 >>>> odds. >>>> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >>>> >>>> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >>>> bets ;-). >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>>>> are in >>>>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>>>> all >>>>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>>>> face a >>>>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>>>> pork >>>>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>>>> I can. >>>>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise t
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Signal loss should be pretty low. Sure we could easily do 80GHz so need some 80Ghz ptmp radios so we can get a few hundred mbit each ;) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:19 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money > to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market > investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help > anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even > tighter. > > After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high > as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one > should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as > they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. > > Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull > that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight > for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to > be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my > competitors at the fire sales. > > More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend > money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. > > So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If > (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of > it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. > > In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive > government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a > colony on the moon? > > deep sigh > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Bartosch" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) >> >> That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >>> >>> Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. >>> Just my silly obsevation :) >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch >>> wrote: >>>> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. >>>> No, >>>> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 >>>> odds. >>>> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >>>> >>>> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >>>> bets ;-). >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>>>> are in >>>>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>>>> all >>>>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>>>> face a >>>>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>>>> pork >>>>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>>>> I can. >>>>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >>>>> you care >>>>> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>&
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Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money > to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market > investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help > anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even > tighter. > > After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high > as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one > should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as > they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. > > Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull > that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight > for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to > be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my > competitors at the fire sales. > > More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend > money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. > > So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If > (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of > it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. > > In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive > government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a > colony on the moon? > > deep sigh > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > o...@odessaoffice.com > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Bartosch" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) >> >> That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >>> >>> Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. >>> Just my silly obsevation :) >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch >>> wrote: >>>> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. >>>> No, >>>> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 >>>> odds. >>>> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >>>> >>>> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >>>> bets ;-). >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>>>> are in >>>>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>>>> all >>>>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>>>> face a >>>>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>>>> pork >>>>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>>>> I can. >>>>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >>>>> you care >>>>> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> ---
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Yeah, in a cold house on an old worn out mattress. While your competitors eat caviar and stay warm with $500/hour hookers. It's not free money Mark. But our kids are somehow going to have to pay it back someday. Are you going to leave them in poverty when that happens? Or are you going to do what it takes (knowing that you have no control over the rules of the game) to make sure that they can pay their share back and still live a decent life? Quit whining and go run for office! This can NOT be fixed from the outside in. We have to get inside to fix it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > Hell no. I won't take "free" money without strings. > > I have to sleep at night. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Travis Johnson" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > >> Hi, >> >> As I mentioned before, I don't want the hand-out either. The problem is, >> I don't want my competition to get any "free" money either (including >> cable or DSL). So, what do we do? The only option I see is to ask for >> our fair share, so we can stay on even ground. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are >>> in >>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all >>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a >>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>> >>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork >>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. >>> >>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I >>> can. >>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you >>> care >>> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even tighter. After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my competitors at the fire sales. More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a colony on the moon? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Chuck Bartosch" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: > >> But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) > > That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). > > Chuck > >> >> Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. >> Just my silly obsevation :) >> -RickG >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch >> wrote: >>> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. >>> No, >>> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 >>> odds. >>> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >>> >>> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >>> bets ;-). >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>> >>>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>>> are in >>>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>>> all >>>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>>> face a >>>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>>> >>>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>>> pork >>>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>>> them. >>>> >>>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>>> I can. >>>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >>>> you care >>>> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> -- >>> Chuck Bartosch >>> Clarity Connect, Inc. >>> 200 Pleasant Grove Road >>> Ithaca, NY 14850 >>> (607) 257-8268 >>> >>> If all is not lost, where is it? >>> >>> >>> >>> >
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Here's the deal. You can't stop the spending. You can't. All we can do is take the spending in a direction that helps the most people and is less wasteful. There are two options. Wasteful spending with benefits and wasteful spending with no benefits. Getting rid of wasteful spending is not an option. Brian rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork barrell spending. - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork barrell spending. - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are >> in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a >> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. > > And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the > opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the > economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm > assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately > nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Hell no. I won't take "free" money without strings. I have to sleep at night. - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > Hi, > > As I mentioned before, I don't want the hand-out either. The problem is, > I don't want my competition to get any "free" money either (including > cable or DSL). So, what do we do? The only option I see is to ask for > our fair share, so we can stay on even ground. > > Travis > Microserv > > rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are >> in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a >> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >> >> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork >> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. >> >> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I >> can. >> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you >> care >> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: > But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by "tails I win, heads you lose" ;-). Chuck > > Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. > Just my silly obsevation :) > -RickG > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch > wrote: >> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. >> No, >> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 >> odds. >> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >> >> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >> bets ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >> >>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>> are in >>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>> all >>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>> face a >>> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >>> >>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>> pork >>> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>> them. >>> >>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>> I can. >>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >>> you care >>> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> -- >> Chuck Bartosch >> Clarity Connect, Inc. >> 200 Pleasant Grove Road >> Ithaca, NY 14850 >> (607) 257-8268 >> >> If all is not lost, where is it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Had me going for a minute... thought this was some obscure joke, something to do with the end of the (economic) world. Police.. Guns.. Masks.. I just didn't get it :) Randy Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) > > > Faisal Imtiaz > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:08 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > Here is what it is showing:- > --- > Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js > > [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not > exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js > > -- > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net > Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... > > But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what > time frame for the collapse to happen. > Just my silly obsevation :) > -RickG > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch > wrote: > >> Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, >> let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. >> I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? >> >> (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of >> bets ;-). >> >> Chuck >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >> >> >>> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >>> are in >>> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >>> all >>> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >>> face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to >>> worthlessness. >>> >>> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >>> pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >>> them. >>> >>> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >>> I can. >>> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >>> you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> --- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> - >>> --- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wire
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Here is what it is showing:- --- Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, > let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. > I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? > > (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of > bets ;-). > > Chuck > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >> are in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >> all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >> face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to >> worthlessness. >> >> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >> pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >> them. >> >> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >> I can. >> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >> you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > Chuck Bartosch > Clarity Connect, Inc. > 200 Pleasant Grove Road > Ithaca, NY 14850 > (607) 257-8268 > > If all is not lost, where is it? > > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://li
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Here is what it is showing:- --- Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, > let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. > I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? > > (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of > bets ;-). > > Chuck > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >> are in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >> all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >> face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to >> worthlessness. >> >> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >> pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR >> them. >> >> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >> I can. >> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >> you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > Chuck Bartosch > Clarity Connect, Inc. > 200 Pleasant Grove Road > Ithaca, NY 14850 > (607) 257-8268 > > If all is not lost, where is it? > > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listin
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, > let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. > I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? > > (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of > bets ;-). > > Chuck > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time >> are in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless >> all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to >> face a >> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >> >> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the >> pork >> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. >> >> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if >> I can. >> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of >> you care >> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > Chuck Bartosch > Clarity Connect, Inc. > 200 Pleasant Grove Road > Ithaca, NY 14850 > (607) 257-8268 > > If all is not lost, where is it? > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in > deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all > this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a > currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these "tales I win, heads you lose" kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time > are in > deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless > all > this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to > face a > currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. > > I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the > pork > barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. > > You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if > I can. > If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of > you care > about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Mark Your refering to: The case for doing nothing http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18068.html Unfortunatly the governemtnt is not reading that article and are going to give away a lot of money and you nor I can stop them. Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > As I mentioned before, I don't want the hand-out either. The problem is, > I don't want my competition to get any "free" money either (including > cable or DSL). So, what do we do? The only option I see is to ask for > our fair share, so we can stay on even ground. > > Travis > Microserv > > rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >> Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in >> deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all >> this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a >> currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. >> >> I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork >> barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. >> >> You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. >> If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care >> about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Hi, As I mentioned before, I don't want the hand-out either. The problem is, I don't want my competition to get any "free" money either (including cable or DSL). So, what do we do? The only option I see is to ask for our fair share, so we can stay on even ground. Travis Microserv rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: > Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in > deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all > this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a > currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. > > I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork > barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. > > You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. > If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care > about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OMG...
Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
