Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-03 Thread Chuck Profito
Save a few K and use "Vista Print" or any other online printer for your
added size printing needs.
I have got nearly  70,000 pages, mostly duplex, on a hp laser jet 2200. I've
got a whole $150.00 in it. Maybe old and slow but what a work horse. Then a
Costo HP photo smart c7250 all in one for color and copy needs.
And the HP920c on the shelf for large jobs(three or 4 years haven't plugged
it in). Total investment in all three less than 500.  And I get to pour
myself some coffee on some print jobs. With that big Koycera you never have
time to smell the roses ;-) 


Chuck Profito
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

Agreed.  We saved over 3 days per month in extra office help when we moved 
to email invoices.  We still send some by hand but we charge for them and 
there aren't that many of them anymore.

As for a print shop, we're still over 30 miles from the nearest McDonalds! 
45 from the nearest stop light.  It's very time efficient to be able to take

care of ourselves as much as possible.
marlon

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>I personally (and professionally) do not do paper statements or printing
> that large anymore. That has saved a ton on time/money. The printing
> that is left can be handled by what I have or rarely, by the local print
> shop. I know this is not true for everyone.
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> I've been really happy with our 2610d.  They aren't made anymore, but 
>> should
>> be available somewhere.
>>
>> Kyocera used to make a really good printer.  I used to be a factory
>> certified service tech for them.  That's been 10 years ago though.
>>
>> Right now we're looking at a Panasonic or Sharp multi function unit. 
>> 40ppm
>> copier/printer with built in scanner and network connectivity.  They are
>> certainly a lot more money than a printer but we'll get GOOD 11x17 full
>> color pages when we want them.  And we'll get a full service contract
>> including toner.
>>
>> $10,000 might be a bit out of your budget for one though.  Having said 
>> that,
>> this is one piece of hardware I'll lease.  One payment will cover the
>> machine and all repairs for the next 5 years.  Sometimes it's worth it to
>> not have to wonder if things are going to work or not
>>
>> I was a copier tech and business owner in that industry for many years. 
>> I
>> can tell you that you'll almost always come out ahead if you get a 
>> service
>> contract.  Always if you perform proper maintenance on the machines
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:26 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>
>>
>>> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 
>>> years
>>> has been garbage.
>>>
>>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>>
>>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper 
>>> handling
>>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax 
>>> issues
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, 
>>> but
>>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>>> around.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Agreed.  We saved over 3 days per month in extra office help when we moved 
to email invoices.  We still send some by hand but we charge for them and 
there aren't that many of them anymore.

As for a print shop, we're still over 30 miles from the nearest McDonalds! 
45 from the nearest stop light.  It's very time efficient to be able to take 
care of ourselves as much as possible.
marlon

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>I personally (and professionally) do not do paper statements or printing
> that large anymore. That has saved a ton on time/money. The printing
> that is left can be handled by what I have or rarely, by the local print
> shop. I know this is not true for everyone.
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> I've been really happy with our 2610d.  They aren't made anymore, but 
>> should
>> be available somewhere.
>>
>> Kyocera used to make a really good printer.  I used to be a factory
>> certified service tech for them.  That's been 10 years ago though.
>>
>> Right now we're looking at a Panasonic or Sharp multi function unit. 
>> 40ppm
>> copier/printer with built in scanner and network connectivity.  They are
>> certainly a lot more money than a printer but we'll get GOOD 11x17 full
>> color pages when we want them.  And we'll get a full service contract
>> including toner.
>>
>> $10,000 might be a bit out of your budget for one though.  Having said 
>> that,
>> this is one piece of hardware I'll lease.  One payment will cover the
>> machine and all repairs for the next 5 years.  Sometimes it's worth it to
>> not have to wonder if things are going to work or not
>>
>> I was a copier tech and business owner in that industry for many years. 
>> I
>> can tell you that you'll almost always come out ahead if you get a 
>> service
>> contract.  Always if you perform proper maintenance on the machines
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:26 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>
>>
>>> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 
>>> years
>>> has been garbage.
>>>
>>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>>
>>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper 
>>> handling
>>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax 
>>> issues
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, 
>>> but
>>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>>> around.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-03 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I personally (and professionally) do not do paper statements or printing
that large anymore. That has saved a ton on time/money. The printing
that is left can be handled by what I have or rarely, by the local print
shop. I know this is not true for everyone.

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> I've been really happy with our 2610d.  They aren't made anymore, but should 
> be available somewhere.
> 
> Kyocera used to make a really good printer.  I used to be a factory 
> certified service tech for them.  That's been 10 years ago though.
> 
> Right now we're looking at a Panasonic or Sharp multi function unit.  40ppm 
> copier/printer with built in scanner and network connectivity.  They are 
> certainly a lot more money than a printer but we'll get GOOD 11x17 full 
> color pages when we want them.  And we'll get a full service contract 
> including toner.
> 
> $10,000 might be a bit out of your budget for one though.  Having said that, 
> this is one piece of hardware I'll lease.  One payment will cover the 
> machine and all repairs for the next 5 years.  Sometimes it's worth it to 
> not have to wonder if things are going to work or not
> 
> I was a copier tech and business owner in that industry for many years.  I 
> can tell you that you'll almost always come out ahead if you get a service 
> contract.  Always if you perform proper maintenance on the machines
> marlon
> 
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:26 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers
> 
> 
>> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer 
>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years 
>> has been garbage.
>>
>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, 
>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>
>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering 
>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling 
>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues 
>> as well.
>>
>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but 
>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be 
>> around.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've been really happy with our 2610d.  They aren't made anymore, but should 
be available somewhere.

Kyocera used to make a really good printer.  I used to be a factory 
certified service tech for them.  That's been 10 years ago though.

Right now we're looking at a Panasonic or Sharp multi function unit.  40ppm 
copier/printer with built in scanner and network connectivity.  They are 
certainly a lot more money than a printer but we'll get GOOD 11x17 full 
color pages when we want them.  And we'll get a full service contract 
including toner.

$10,000 might be a bit out of your budget for one though.  Having said that, 
this is one piece of hardware I'll lease.  One payment will cover the 
machine and all repairs for the next 5 years.  Sometimes it's worth it to 
not have to wonder if things are going to work or not

I was a copier tech and business owner in that industry for many years.  I 
can tell you that you'll almost always come out ahead if you get a service 
contract.  Always if you perform proper maintenance on the machines
marlon

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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers


>I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer 
>(680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years 
>has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, 
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering 
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling 
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues 
> as well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but 
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be 
> around.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
The $200 ones have a monthly duty cycle of what I've printed in 2 years and 
fail.


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> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:27 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I'm reluctant to spend $500 on a better printer when the $200 ones I've 
>> been
>> getting have been garbage.
>
> ??  This is complete nonsense.   What makes you think that the quality
> of a $500 would be equivalent to a $200 printer?  Certainly, there are
> some things are just simply pricey for the sake of price or because they
> have a certain name stamped on the device (Cisco vs ImageStream for
> example).  However, it is USUALLY true that the more expensive
> products/devices are higher because they are better quality than the
> lower priced device (Kia vs BMW for example).
>
> P.S. I'm NOT trying to start a flame war over Cisco...  :-)
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:27 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I'm reluctant to spend $500 on a better printer when the $200 ones I've been 
> getting have been garbage.

??  This is complete nonsense.   What makes you think that the quality
of a $500 would be equivalent to a $200 printer?  Certainly, there are
some things are just simply pricey for the sake of price or because they
have a certain name stamped on the device (Cisco vs ImageStream for
example).  However, it is USUALLY true that the more expensive
products/devices are higher because they are better quality than the
lower priced device (Kia vs BMW for example). 

P.S. I'm NOT trying to start a flame war over Cisco...  :-)

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Other than sipping the ink, that sounds like my 6310.


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From: "D. Ryan Spott" 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

> I really really really wanted a laser MFP. But budget said I had to get
> an injet. I really did not want to support the
> HP/Gillette-the-printer-is-cheap-we-make-it-up-on-ink/razors business 
> model.
>
> So we got an HP 7500 series MFP Inkjet. Sucker ROCKS. Print, Scan,
> Email, PDF-ize and it sips the ink! Just a hair more expensive in the
> long run than a laser based system.
>
> Oh, and it has a built in print-server so no USB sillyness
>
> ryan
>
>
>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I have a 4 running as well and have printed hundreds of pages since I got 
>> it
>> with zero problems.
>>
>> 1)  It doesn't do color.
>> 2)  It doesn't scan, fax, copy, etc.
>>
>> I'm reluctant to spend $500 on a better printer when the $200 ones I've 
>> been
>> getting have been garbage.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:21 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>
>>
>>> I love my HP LaserJet 4 and 5
>>>
>>> 4 still runs today
>>>
>>> 5 I gave away after a few years
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>  I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years 
>>>> ago...
>>>> probably closer to $2,000 brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jp wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 
>>>> 9
>>>> years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it
>>>> about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.
>>>>
>>>> At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old 
>>>> now,
>>>> and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very
>>>> reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about
>>>> 5000 copies/month of printing.
>>>>
>>>> If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer
>>>> preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform
>>>> compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> From: "Kristi Fundu"  
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List"  
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a
>>>> single
>>>> pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as
>>>> the
>>>> print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first 
>>>> printer
>>>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10

Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote:
> I love my HP LaserJet 4 and 5
> 
> 4 still runs today

We had an HP Laserjet 4, until it sent someone to the hospital. (Our 
Printer Guy was replacing something, maybe the drum, and got overzealous 
with balancing the printer's substantial bulk in a funny way. He got 
distracted, something sharp inside the printer cut him, gravity kicked 
in, et cetera.) I think it was at about 350,000 pages when it left us.

Its replacement is an HP Laserjet 2430tn, which we've had for over three 
years and 185,000 pages, with no problems. It's "just" a black-and-white 
printer (no fax or copy, no color, no frills except the built-in network 
print server), and it cost around $1000 at the time, but it does its job 
(mainly printing invoices for customers) quite well.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I sell (and use) HP PSC printers. The white with light grey, not the
dark gray ones (I do not knwo why the dark ones are such POS's). Never
touch a Lexmark (or Dell Home/SOHO AIO series, same brand). Lately I
have been pushing the Brother HL-2170W. Fast PPS with inexpensive
refills. BW only (they have a color version). Ethernet and Wireless
built in, $130 NIB.


Mike Hammett wrote:
> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer 
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years 
> has been garbage.
> 
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, 
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
> 
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering 
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling 
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as 
> well.
> 
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but 
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be around.
> 
> 
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I really really really wanted a laser MFP. But budget said I had to get 
an injet. I really did not want to support the 
HP/Gillette-the-printer-is-cheap-we-make-it-up-on-ink/razors business model.

So we got an HP 7500 series MFP Inkjet. Sucker ROCKS. Print, Scan, 
Email, PDF-ize and it sips the ink! Just a hair more expensive in the 
long run than a laser based system.

Oh, and it has a built in print-server so no USB sillyness

ryan



Mike Hammett wrote:
> I have a 4 running as well and have printed hundreds of pages since I got it 
> with zero problems.
>
> 1)  It doesn't do color.
> 2)  It doesn't scan, fax, copy, etc.
>
> I'm reluctant to spend $500 on a better printer when the $200 ones I've been 
> getting have been garbage.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:21 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>
>   
>> I love my HP LaserJet 4 and 5
>>
>> 4 still runs today
>>
>> 5 I gave away after a few years
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>  I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years ago...
>>> probably closer to $2,000 brand new.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>>
>>> jp wrote:
>>>
>>> That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9
>>> years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it
>>> about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.
>>>
>>> At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old now,
>>> and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very
>>> reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about
>>> 5000 copies/month of printing.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer
>>> preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform
>>> compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Kristi Fundu"  
>>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List"  
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a
>>> single
>>> pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as 
>>> the
>>> print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10
>>> years
>>> has been garbage.
>>>
>>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>>
>>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper
>>> handling
>>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
>>> as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs,
>>> but
>>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>>> around.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I have a 4 running as well and have printed hundreds of pages since I got it 
with zero problems.

1)  It doesn't do color.
2)  It doesn't scan, fax, copy, etc.

I'm reluctant to spend $500 on a better printer when the $200 ones I've been 
getting have been garbage.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

> I love my HP LaserJet 4 and 5
>
> 4 still runs today
>
> 5 I gave away after a few years
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>>  I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years ago...
>> probably closer to $2,000 brand new.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> jp wrote:
>>
>> That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9
>> years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it
>> about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.
>>
>> At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old now,
>> and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very
>> reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about
>> 5000 copies/month of printing.
>>
>> If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer
>> preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform
>> compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Kristi Fundu"  
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"  
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>
>>
>>
>>  Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a
>> single
>> pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as 
>> the
>> print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10
>> years
>> has been garbage.
>>
>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>
>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper
>> handling
>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs,
>> but
>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>> around.
>>
>>
>> -
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I love my HP LaserJet 4 and 5

4 still runs today

5 I gave away after a few years

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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improbable, must be the truth."
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

>  I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years ago...
> probably closer to $2,000 brand new.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> jp wrote:
>
> That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9
> years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it
> about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.
>
> At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old now,
> and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very
> reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about
> 5000 copies/month of printing.
>
> If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer
> preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform
> compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>
>  I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> ----------
> From: "Kristi Fundu"  
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"  
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>
>
>
>  Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a
> single
> pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as the
> print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett  
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10
> years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper
> handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
> as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs,
> but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson




I can tell you right now that the HP5M/N was not $300 nine years ago...
probably closer to $2,000 brand new.

Travis
Microserv

jp wrote:

  That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9 
years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it 
about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.

At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old now, 
and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very 
reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about 
5000 copies/month of printing.

If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer 
preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform 
compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...


On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
  
  
I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.


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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers



  Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a 
single
pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as the
print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

  
  
I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
(680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 
years
has been garbage.

The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.

The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper 
handling
issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues 
as
well.

What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, 
but
I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
around.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Jeremy Parr
HP 9200 series will do that. You can even write flows to send jobs to
external programs for faxing, ocr, filing, etc.

On 6/1/09, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> I would love to find a scanner that will store the images to either a local
> media or a networked server...
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>
>> I got a HP 6122 deskjet that has printed over 20,000 pages in the last 8
>> years without a problem.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>>
>> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10
>> years
>> has been garbage.
>>
>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>
>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>> around.
>>
>>
>> -
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>> http://www.ics-il.com
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread jp
That's close to my home volume for laser. I've had an hp5m/n laser for 9 
years at home. It was probably $300 when I bought it. I put toner in it 
about every 3-4 years. It's still going strong.

At work we use an hp8150n laser printer, which is about 6 years old now, 
and you can get them for less than the cost of shipping on Ebay. A very 
reliable workhorse that's cheaper to replace than fix. This does about 
5000 copies/month of printing.

If you're looking for new, I'd suggest a cheap laser or LED printer 
preferably with postscript emulation for good multiplatform 
compatibility. That should be $100-300. Brother, Samsung, Oki, etc...


On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:22:06PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> --
> From: "Kristi Fundu" 
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:54 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
> 
> > Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a 
> > single
> > pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as the
> > print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> >> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 
> >> years
> >> has been garbage.
> >>
> >> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> >> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
> >>
> >> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> >> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper 
> >> handling
> >> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues 
> >> as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, 
> >> but
> >> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> >> around.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread eje
If your looking for a MFP then Xerox got one think it's their 6180 can scan 
direct to e-mail, windows file share or ftp server. Works great. Very good 
color laser as well. They makes some of the best quality color lasers out 
there. 

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From: Josh Luthman 

Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:34:58 
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I would love to find a scanner that will store the images to either a local
media or a networked server...

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> I got a HP 6122 deskjet that has printed over 20,000 pages in the last 8
> years without a problem.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers
>
> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
> as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I would love to find a scanner that will store the images to either a local
media or a networked server...

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> I got a HP 6122 deskjet that has printed over 20,000 pages in the last 8
> years without a problem.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
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>
> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues
> as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I got a HP 6122 deskjet that has printed over 20,000 pages in the last 8
years without a problem.

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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers

I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
(680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
has been garbage.

The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.

The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as
well.

What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
around.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Randy Cosby
We tried our luck with a Dell laser about 2 years ago.  Not bad, but 
still has a few bugs to work out.  Tends to overheat / curl papers more 
than the HP we had last did.  No repair issues or anything though.

Randy


e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
> Avoid any MFP unless you get extended warranty is a high end unit. To much 
> that can and will go wrong.  And as with any ink jet you need to print to 
> them daily or risk having ink dry up and clog the heads. Stay laser. Had good 
> luck with any HP laser model we use or I used in the past and the Xerox color 
> lasers I have used. Xerox solid ink ones are pretty good as well costs to 
> operate is little higher then laser but quality is better then laser and 
> don't suffer from the ink jet problems. 
>
> /Eje
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:26:00 
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT:  Printers
>
>
> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer 
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years 
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, 
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering 
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling 
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as 
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but 
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be around.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I've used inkjet due to the low volume.  3k pages in almost 2 years.


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> Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a 
> single
> pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as the
> print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
>> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 
>> years
>> has been garbage.
>>
>> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
>> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>>
>> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
>> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper 
>> handling
>> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues 
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, 
>> but
>> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
>> around.
>>
>>
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>> http://www.ics-il.com
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Jayson Baker
www.freecolorprinters.com

We have a C2424, which I don't think they offer anymore.  Printer, Copy,
Scan, etc.
Scans to a hard drive, you download from the internal web interface.  Very
handy.
Prints fast, really not much warm-up time.  Wax-based ink, IMHO looks better
than laser.

They basically send you the printer for free, so long as you buy the ink
from them.
We look at it as paying the same amount as leasing a good $3000 unit, and
getting free ink.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread eje
Avoid any MFP unless you get extended warranty is a high end unit. To much that 
can and will go wrong.  And as with any ink jet you need to print to them daily 
or risk having ink dry up and clog the heads. Stay laser. Had good luck with 
any HP laser model we use or I used in the past and the Xerox color lasers I 
have used. Xerox solid ink ones are pretty good as well costs to operate is 
little higher then laser but quality is better then laser and don't suffer from 
the ink jet problems. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "Mike Hammett" 

Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:26:00 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT:  Printers


I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer (680c) 
probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years has been 
garbage.

The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, which 
after 403 pages I hear is having problems.

The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering faxes.  
Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling issues and 
uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as well.

What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but I'm 
not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be around.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Kristi Fundu
Why would you use inkjet?  Switch to laser or LED.  You want to use a single
pass system instead of a multi-pass.  OKI MFCs are my first choice, as the
print quality is unsurpassed and consumables are inexpensive.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Jeremy Parr
Nothing but the midrange and higher HP lasers here. As sad as it is to
say, anything lower end is a gamble.

On 6/1/09, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer
> (680c) probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years
> has been garbage.
>
> The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980,
> which after 403 pages I hear is having problems.
>
> The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering
> faxes.  Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling
> issues and uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as
> well.
>
> What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but
> I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be
> around.
>
>
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[WISPA] OT: Printers

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20  years.  The first printer (680c) 
probably still works.  Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years has been 
garbage.

The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, which 
after 403 pages I hear is having problems.

The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering faxes.  
Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling issues and 
uses incredible amounts of ink.  I hear it has some fax issues as well.

What printers are worth a damn?  I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but I'm 
not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be around.


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