Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Was this OSPF v3?

What's new in 3.22:

*) added WinBox OSPFv3 support to routing-test package;

There are several mentions of OSPF on 3.x and two on 4.x.

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Jeremy Parr  wrote:

> On 12 February 2010 17:29, Paul Gerstenberger  wrote:
> > Ok, I feel stupid and smart at the same time. I had it set up right the
> whole time. I don't know WHY it wasn't working on the test bench with a
> smaller router (RB450G, with the same software, on the same network), but I
> attached those public IPs to the production mikrotik router (RB1000) and it
> works perfect.
> >
> > I don't know exactly what it was, but whatever was amiss is in that
> RB450, not the Riverstone.
> >
> > Thanks for the responses. I'm glad it's finally working, but irritated
> that it took me this long to figure it out...
>
> Same RouterOS version of both MTs?
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-12 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 12 February 2010 17:29, Paul Gerstenberger  wrote:
> Ok, I feel stupid and smart at the same time. I had it set up right the whole 
> time. I don't know WHY it wasn't working on the test bench with a smaller 
> router (RB450G, with the same software, on the same network), but I attached 
> those public IPs to the production mikrotik router (RB1000) and it works 
> perfect.
>
> I don't know exactly what it was, but whatever was amiss is in that RB450, 
> not the Riverstone.
>
> Thanks for the responses. I'm glad it's finally working, but irritated that 
> it took me this long to figure it out...

Same RouterOS version of both MTs?



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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
Ok, I feel stupid and smart at the same time. I had it set up right the whole 
time. I don't know WHY it wasn't working on the test bench with a smaller 
router (RB450G, with the same software, on the same network), but I attached 
those public IPs to the production mikrotik router (RB1000) and it works 
perfect.

I don't know exactly what it was, but whatever was amiss is in that RB450, not 
the Riverstone.

Thanks for the responses. I'm glad it's finally working, but irritated that it 
took me this long to figure it out...

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:

> It's an RS3000 running ROS 9.1.2.8.
> 
> I did try disabling OSPF and set up static routes. The behavior was exactly 
> the same. I had inbound connectivity, but not outbound. So our ISP is routing 
> those IPs to our gateway, and the riverstone knows where to go with them from 
> there - to the mikrotik. But when originating from inside our network, it 
> hits the riverstone at 10.0.4.1, but goes no further.
> 
> I'm not running HRT.
> 
> I appreciate the assistance. I'll be back at it tomorrow morning to try out 
> any suggestions...
> 
> -Paul
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> 
>> Which Riverstone Box is it ? RS3000 or RS8000  also what is the ROS version
>> you (Paul) are running ?
>> 
>> 
>> If it is an OSPF issue or Routing issue... 
>> 
>> You should be able to set up the routing (static) and confirm if it is one
>> or the other ?
>> 
>> Are you by any chance running  " hrt enable" command on any of the cards ?
>> (temp. comment those commands out).
>> 
>> I have noticed that with HRT enabled, system does not take new routes into
>> the RIB rightaway..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
>> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Butch Evans
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
>> 
>> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:31 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: 
>>> It's a Riverstone and Mikrotik.  No Cisco from what I caught.
>> 
>> Yeah...I decided to go back and look in the earlier messages in the thread.
>> I had already put my foot in my mouth...thanks for keeping me from chewing
>> with vigor.  ;-)
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
It's an RS3000 running ROS 9.1.2.8.

I did try disabling OSPF and set up static routes. The behavior was exactly the 
same. I had inbound connectivity, but not outbound. So our ISP is routing those 
IPs to our gateway, and the riverstone knows where to go with them from there - 
to the mikrotik. But when originating from inside our network, it hits the 
riverstone at 10.0.4.1, but goes no further.

I'm not running HRT.

I appreciate the assistance. I'll be back at it tomorrow morning to try out any 
suggestions...

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

> Which Riverstone Box is it ? RS3000 or RS8000  also what is the ROS version
> you (Paul) are running ?
> 
> 
> If it is an OSPF issue or Routing issue... 
> 
> You should be able to set up the routing (static) and confirm if it is one
> or the other ?
> 
> Are you by any chance running  " hrt enable" command on any of the cards ?
> (temp. comment those commands out).
> 
> I have noticed that with HRT enabled, system does not take new routes into
> the RIB rightaway..
> 
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Butch Evans
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
> 
> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:31 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: 
>> It's a Riverstone and Mikrotik.  No Cisco from what I caught.
> 
> Yeah...I decided to go back and look in the earlier messages in the thread.
> I had already put my foot in my mouth...thanks for keeping me from chewing
> with vigor.  ;-)
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Which Riverstone Box is it ? RS3000 or RS8000  also what is the ROS version
you (Paul) are running ?


If it is an OSPF issue or Routing issue... 

You should be able to set up the routing (static) and confirm if it is one
or the other ?

Are you by any chance running  " hrt enable" command on any of the cards ?
(temp. comment those commands out).

I have noticed that with HRT enabled, system does not take new routes into
the RIB rightaway..



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Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:31 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> It's a Riverstone and Mikrotik.  No Cisco from what I caught.

Yeah...I decided to go back and look in the earlier messages in the thread.
I had already put my foot in my mouth...thanks for keeping me from chewing
with vigor.  ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:31 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> It's a Riverstone and Mikrotik.  No Cisco from what I caught.

Yeah...I decided to go back and look in the earlier messages in the
thread.  I had already put my foot in my mouth...thanks for keeping me
from chewing with vigor.  ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 16:43 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: 
> {provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
> <---[10.0.4.1   OSPF 

> Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 public addresses

Ok.  What we need to know:

With the public/24 on the MT "inside" interface:
FROM a machine with another ip in that range (of course attached to the
"inside" MT interface, ping the MT's public/24.  Ping the MT's 10.0.4.2
IP, and ping the Riverstone 10.0.4.1.  ONE of those is likely to fail
(assuming you have a real routing problem).  Which one will give us a
clue as to what the problem actually is.  What would be helpful is an
output of the routing table on both the MT and Riverstone.  

> I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they 
> work fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised 
> over OSPF and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router 
> on a traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses 
> from an external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to 
> make the route bi-directional, if that's the right term.

Is either the MT or the riverstone running some sort of proxy arp on any
interface?  It is possible that is giving you a false impression that
the device is responding from outside?

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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
It's a Riverstone and Mikrotik.  No Cisco from what I caught.

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Butch Evans  wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:20 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> > I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach
> > it to the riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).
>
> I just caught this thread.  I don't know all of the details, but looking
> through the rest of this message, I am presuming you are having trouble
> with a Cisco<->MT OSPF.  One thing about Cisco (at least some of the IOS
> versions) is that it will/can not do OSPF using a secondary IP on the
> interface.  If I am way off base, having not read the entire thread,
> I'll try to catch up and see if there is something I can do to assist.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:20 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: 
> I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach 
> it to the riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).

I just caught this thread.  I don't know all of the details, but looking
through the rest of this message, I am presuming you are having trouble
with a Cisco<->MT OSPF.  One thing about Cisco (at least some of the IOS
versions) is that it will/can not do OSPF using a secondary IP on the
interface.  If I am way off base, having not read the entire thread,
I'll try to catch up and see if there is something I can do to assist.

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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I just added the network to the riverstone this morning to double-check it's 
outbound connectivity, it was not attached to both riverstone and the mikrotik 
at the same time.

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Data Technology wrote:

> You said that you have one of the public ip's assigned to the 
> riverstone.  That might be causing the problem.  What netmask did you 
> use on the riverstone for the public ip?  If you used a /24 then the 
> riverstone thinks that whole subnet is attached to it and is probably 
> ignoring the routing for the /24 back to the MT.
> 
> 
> Bret Clark wrote:
>> At this point I think I would just port mirror on a port on the
>> Riverstone and see what Wireshark is showing. I see nothing wrong with
>> the routing statements and I know it works as we have a fair number of
>> Mikrotiks running with RS3000's and RS8000's using OSPF's.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:20 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I have public IPs, the 10.0.4.0 network is my OSPF backbone network. I'm 
>>> not trying to go out with those addresses. What I've put down as 
>>> yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24 signifies my new public IPs.
>>> 
>>> I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach it to 
>>> the riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).
>>> 
>>> -Paul
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> NAT.  your 10.x is privates, you may need to nat them out. 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
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>>>> MTCTCE, MTCUME 
>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:56 AM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
>>>> 
>>>> I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our
>>>> outbound interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a
>>>> different pool that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled
>>>> the ACLs altogether to test.
>>>> 
>>>> And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything
>>>> works. That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Could it be a firewall rule?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on
>>>>>> 
>>>> the 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>>>> 
>>>>>>  ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and this in the mikrotik:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty
>>>>>> 
>>>> sure, I did it from WinBox)
>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but
>>>>>> 
>>>> I time out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics
>>>> from an external network.
>>>> 
>>>>>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
>>>>>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>>>>>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>>>>>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>>>>>> 3  * * *
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL li

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Data Technology
You said that you have one of the public ip's assigned to the 
riverstone.  That might be causing the problem.  What netmask did you 
use on the riverstone for the public ip?  If you used a /24 then the 
riverstone thinks that whole subnet is attached to it and is probably 
ignoring the routing for the /24 back to the MT.


Bret Clark wrote:
> At this point I think I would just port mirror on a port on the
> Riverstone and see what Wireshark is showing. I see nothing wrong with
> the routing statements and I know it works as we have a fair number of
> Mikrotiks running with RS3000's and RS8000's using OSPF's.
>
>
> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:20 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>
>   
>> I have public IPs, the 10.0.4.0 network is my OSPF backbone network. I'm not 
>> trying to go out with those addresses. What I've put down as 
>> yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24 signifies my new public IPs.
>>
>> I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach it to the 
>> riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> NAT.  your 10.x is privates, you may need to nat them out. 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
>>> MTCTCE, MTCUME 
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:56 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
>>>
>>> I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our
>>> outbound interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a
>>> different pool that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled
>>> the ACLs altogether to test.
>>>
>>> And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything
>>> works. That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Could it be a firewall rule?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on
>>>>>   
>>> the 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>>>   
>>>>>   ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>>>>>
>>>>> and this in the mikrotik:
>>>>>
>>>>>   ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty
>>>>>   
>>> sure, I did it from WinBox)
>>>   
>>>>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but
>>>>>   
>>> I time out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics
>>> from an external network.
>>>   
>>>>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
>>>>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>>>>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>>>>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>>>>> 3  * * *
>>>>>
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for
>>>>>>>   
>>> unallocated IPs, that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>>>   
>>>>>>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with
>>>>>>>   
>>> some of these IPs.
>>>   
>>>>>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
>>>>>>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
>>>>>>> # softwar

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Bret Clark
At this point I think I would just port mirror on a port on the
Riverstone and see what Wireshark is showing. I see nothing wrong with
the routing statements and I know it works as we have a fair number of
Mikrotiks running with RS3000's and RS8000's using OSPF's.


On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:20 -0800, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:

> I have public IPs, the 10.0.4.0 network is my OSPF backbone network. I'm not 
> trying to go out with those addresses. What I've put down as yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24 
> signifies my new public IPs.
> 
> I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach it to the 
> riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).
> 
> -Paul
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
> 
> > NAT.  your 10.x is privates, you may need to nat them out. 
> > 
> > ---
> > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
> > MTCTCE, MTCUME 
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
> > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:56 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
> > 
> > I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our
> > outbound interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a
> > different pool that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled
> > the ACLs altogether to test.
> > 
> > And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything
> > works. That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.
> > 
> > -Paul
> > 
> > On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:
> > 
> >> Could it be a firewall rule?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> >>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on
> > the 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
> >>> 
> >>>   ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
> >>> 
> >>> and this in the mikrotik:
> >>> 
> >>>   ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty
> > sure, I did it from WinBox)
> >>> 
> >>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but
> > I time out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics
> > from an external network.
> >>> 
> >>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
> >>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
> >>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
> >>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
> >>> 3  * * *
> >>> 
> >>> -Paul
> >>> 
> >>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for
> > unallocated IPs, that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with
> > some of these IPs.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
> >>>>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
> >>>>> # software id = -
> >>>>> #
> >>>>> /routing ospf instance
> >>>>> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never
> > in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
> >>>>>  metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto
> > metric-rip=20 metric-static=20 \
> >>>>>  name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no
> > redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
> >>>>>  redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no
> > redistribute-static=no router-id=10.0.4.3
> >>>>> /routing ospf area
> >>>>> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no
> > instance=default name=backbone type=default
> >>>>> /routing ospf interface
> >>>>> add authentication=none authentication-key=""
>

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I have public IPs, the 10.0.4.0 network is my OSPF backbone network. I'm not 
trying to go out with those addresses. What I've put down as yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24 
signifies my new public IPs.

I'm using one of the new public IPs right now, but I had to attach it to the 
riverstone (which holds the default gateway to our ISP).

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

> NAT.  your 10.x is privates, you may need to nat them out. 
> 
> ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
> MTCTCE, MTCUME 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:56 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]
> 
> I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our
> outbound interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a
> different pool that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled
> the ACLs altogether to test.
> 
> And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything
> works. That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.
> 
> -Paul
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:
> 
>> Could it be a firewall rule?
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on
> the 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>>> 
>>> ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>>> 
>>> and this in the mikrotik:
>>> 
>>> ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty
> sure, I did it from WinBox)
>>> 
>>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but
> I time out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics
> from an external network.
>>> 
>>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
>>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>>> 3  * * *
>>> 
>>> -Paul
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for
> unallocated IPs, that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with
> some of these IPs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
>>>>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
>>>>> # software id = -
>>>>> #
>>>>> /routing ospf instance
>>>>> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never
> in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
>>>>>  metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto
> metric-rip=20 metric-static=20 \
>>>>>  name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no
> redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
>>>>>  redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no
> redistribute-static=no router-id=10.0.4.3
>>>>> /routing ospf area
>>>>> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no
> instance=default name=backbone type=default
>>>>> /routing ospf interface
>>>>> add authentication=none authentication-key=""
> authentication-key-id=1 comment="" cost=10 \
>>>>>  dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0
> interface=ether1-gateway \
>>>>>  network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1
> retransmit-interval=5s transmit-delay=1s \
>>>>>  use-bfd=no
>>>>> /routing ospf network
>>>>> add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here are the relevant routes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> RS-1# ip show routes   
>>>>> 
>>>>> Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
>>>>> ---  ---   

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Dennis Burgess
NAT.  your 10.x is privates, you may need to nat them out. 

---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
MTCTCE, MTCUME 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our
outbound interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a
different pool that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled
the ACLs altogether to test.

And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything
works. That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:

> Could it be a firewall rule?
> 
> 
> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on
the 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>> 
>>  ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>> 
>> and this in the mikrotik:
>> 
>>  ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty
sure, I did it from WinBox)
>> 
>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but
I time out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics
from an external network.
>> 
>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>> 3  * * *
>> 
>> -Paul
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for
unallocated IPs, that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with
some of these IPs.
>>>> 
>>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
>>>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
>>>> # software id = -
>>>> #
>>>> /routing ospf instance
>>>> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never
in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
>>>>   metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto
metric-rip=20 metric-static=20 \
>>>>   name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no
redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
>>>>   redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no
redistribute-static=no router-id=10.0.4.3
>>>> /routing ospf area
>>>> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no
instance=default name=backbone type=default
>>>> /routing ospf interface
>>>> add authentication=none authentication-key=""
authentication-key-id=1 comment="" cost=10 \
>>>>   dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0
interface=ether1-gateway \
>>>>   network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1
retransmit-interval=5s transmit-delay=1s \
>>>>   use-bfd=no
>>>> /routing ospf network
>>>> add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here are the relevant routes:
>>>> 
>>>> RS-1# ip show routes   
>>>> 
>>>> Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
>>>> ---  ---  - -
>>>> default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
>>>> 10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
>>>> YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201

>>>> XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 
>>>> 
>>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print
>>>> 
>>>> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
>>>> C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
>>>> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
>>>> 
>>>> #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAY
DISTANCE
>>>> 0 ADo

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I have the new network permitted in my ingress and egress ACLs for our outbound 
interface. I've also tried using a smaller subnet of IPs from a different pool 
that we've been using for years. And I briefly disabled the ACLs altogether to 
test.

And when I attach this network direct to the riverstone, everything works. 
That's why I though it was an internal routing misconfiguration.

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Data Technology wrote:

> Could it be a firewall rule?
> 
> 
> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on the 
>> 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>> 
>>  ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>> 
>> and this in the mikrotik:
>> 
>>  ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty sure, I 
>> did it from WinBox)
>> 
>> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but I time 
>> out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics from an 
>> external network.
>> 
>> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
>> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>> 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>> 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>> 3  * * *
>> 
>> -Paul
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>>> 
 There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, 
 that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
 
 I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some 
 of these IPs.
 
 [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
 # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
 # software id = -
 #
 /routing ospf instance
 set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never 
 in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
   metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto 
 metric-rip=20 metric-static=20 \
   name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no 
 redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
   redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no redistribute-static=no 
 router-id=10.0.4.3
 /routing ospf area
 set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no instance=default 
 name=backbone type=default
 /routing ospf interface
 add authentication=none authentication-key="" authentication-key-id=1 
 comment="" cost=10 \
   dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0 
 interface=ether1-gateway \
   network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1 retransmit-interval=5s 
 transmit-delay=1s \
   use-bfd=no
 /routing ospf network
 add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
 
 
 
 Here are the relevant routes:
 
 RS-1# ip show routes   
 
 Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
 ---  ---  - -
 default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
 10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
 YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201 
 XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 
 
 [ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print
 
 Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
 C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
 B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
 
 #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAYDISTANCE
 0 ADo  0.0.0.0/0  -10.0.4.1   110 
 2 ADC  10.0.4.0/2710.0.4.3ether1-gateway 0   
 30 ADC  yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24  zzz.zzz.zzz.1  ether2-local   0  
  
 44 ADo  xxx.xxx.xxx.24/30  -10.0.4.1   110 
 
 -Paul
 
 
>>> Strange...everything looks right to me. Routing tables are as I would 
>>> expect. You don't happen to have any ACL's being applied to the 
>>> interface that the Mikrotik is attached too? What happen if you 
>>> eliminate using OSPF for now and just setup the configuration using 
>>> static routes? Does it work then?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Data Technology
Could it be a firewall rule?


Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on the 
> 10.0.4.0 network) put this route in the riverstone:
>
>   ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3
>
> and this in the mikrotik:
>
>   ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty sure, I 
> did it from WinBox)
>
> Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but I time 
> out when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics from an 
> external network.
>
> MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
> traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>  1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
>  2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
>  3  * * *
>
> -Paul
>
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
>
>   
>> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> 
>>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, 
>>> that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>>>
>>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some of 
>>> these IPs.
>>>
>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
>>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
>>> # software id = -
>>> #
>>> /routing ospf instance
>>> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never 
>>> in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
>>>metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto 
>>> metric-rip=20 metric-static=20 \
>>>name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no 
>>> redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
>>>redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no redistribute-static=no 
>>> router-id=10.0.4.3
>>> /routing ospf area
>>> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no instance=default 
>>> name=backbone type=default
>>> /routing ospf interface
>>> add authentication=none authentication-key="" authentication-key-id=1 
>>> comment="" cost=10 \
>>>dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0 
>>> interface=ether1-gateway \
>>>network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1 retransmit-interval=5s 
>>> transmit-delay=1s \
>>>use-bfd=no
>>> /routing ospf network
>>> add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are the relevant routes:
>>>
>>> RS-1# ip show routes   
>>>
>>> Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
>>> ---  ---  - -
>>> default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
>>> 10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
>>> YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201 
>>> XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 
>>>
>>> [ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print
>>>
>>> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
>>> C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
>>> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
>>>
>>> #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAYDISTANCE
>>> 0 ADo  0.0.0.0/0  -10.0.4.1   110 
>>> 2 ADC  10.0.4.0/2710.0.4.3ether1-gateway 0   
>>> 30 ADC  yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24  zzz.zzz.zzz.1  ether2-local   0   
>>> 44 ADo  xxx.xxx.xxx.24/30  -10.0.4.1   110 
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>>   
>> Strange...everything looks right to me. Routing tables are as I would 
>> expect. You don't happen to have any ACL's being applied to the 
>> interface that the Mikrotik is attached too? What happen if you 
>> eliminate using OSPF for now and just setup the configuration using 
>> static routes? Does it work then?
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
Same story, I disabled OSPF on both devices (but both are still on the 10.0.4.0 
network) put this route in the riverstone:

ip add route yyy.yyy..0/24 gateway 10.0.4.3

and this in the mikrotik:

ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=10.0.4.1  (pretty sure, I 
did it from WinBox)

Again, I can ping out to all local resources off the riverstone, but I time out 
when trying to get outside, but I can ping into those publics from an external 
network.

MacBook-Pro:~ pgerst$ traceroute 4.2.2.1
traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  yyy.yyy.yyy.1 (yyy.yyy.yyy.1)  0.673 ms  0.132 ms  0.165 ms
 2  10.0.4.1 (10.0.4.1)  0.406 ms  0.365 ms  0.358 ms
 3  * * *

-Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote:

> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, 
>> that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>> 
>> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some of 
>> these IPs.
>> 
>> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
>> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
>> # software id = -
>> #
>> /routing ospf instance
>> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never 
>> in-filter=ospf-in metric-bgp=20 \
>>metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto metric-rip=20 
>> metric-static=20 \
>>name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no 
>> redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
>>redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no redistribute-static=no 
>> router-id=10.0.4.3
>> /routing ospf area
>> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no instance=default 
>> name=backbone type=default
>> /routing ospf interface
>> add authentication=none authentication-key="" authentication-key-id=1 
>> comment="" cost=10 \
>>dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0 
>> interface=ether1-gateway \
>>network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1 retransmit-interval=5s 
>> transmit-delay=1s \
>>use-bfd=no
>> /routing ospf network
>> add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here are the relevant routes:
>> 
>> RS-1# ip show routes   
>> 
>> Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
>> ---  ---  - -
>> default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
>> 10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
>> YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201 
>> XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 
>> 
>> [ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print
>> 
>> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
>> C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
>> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
>> 
>> #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAYDISTANCE
>> 0 ADo  0.0.0.0/0  -10.0.4.1   110 
>> 2 ADC  10.0.4.0/2710.0.4.3ether1-gateway 0   
>> 30 ADC  yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24  zzz.zzz.zzz.1  ether2-local   0   
>> 44 ADo  xxx.xxx.xxx.24/30  -10.0.4.1   110 
>> 
>> -Paul
>> 
> Strange...everything looks right to me. Routing tables are as I would 
> expect. You don't happen to have any ACL's being applied to the 
> interface that the Mikrotik is attached too? What happen if you 
> eliminate using OSPF for now and just setup the configuration using 
> static routes? Does it work then?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-11 Thread Bret Clark
Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, 
> that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.
>
> I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some of 
> these IPs.
>
> [ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
> # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
> # software id = -
> #
> /routing ospf instance
> set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never in-filter=ospf-in 
> metric-bgp=20 \
> metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto metric-rip=20 
> metric-static=20 \
> name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no 
> redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
> redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no redistribute-static=no 
> router-id=10.0.4.3
> /routing ospf area
> set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no instance=default 
> name=backbone type=default
> /routing ospf interface
> add authentication=none authentication-key="" authentication-key-id=1 
> comment="" cost=10 \
> dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0 
> interface=ether1-gateway \
> network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1 retransmit-interval=5s 
> transmit-delay=1s \
> use-bfd=no
> /routing ospf network
> add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27
>
>
>
> Here are the relevant routes:
>
> RS-1# ip show routes   
>
> Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
> ---  ---  - -
> default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
> 10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
> YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201 
> XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 
>
> [ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print
>
> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
> C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
>
>  #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAYDISTANCE
>  0 ADo  0.0.0.0/0  -10.0.4.1   110 
>  2 ADC  10.0.4.0/2710.0.4.3ether1-gateway 0   
> 30 ADC  yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24  zzz.zzz.zzz.1  ether2-local   0   
> 44 ADo  xxx.xxx.xxx.24/30  -10.0.4.1   110 
>
> -Paul
>   
Strange...everything looks right to me. Routing tables are as I would 
expect. You don't happen to have any ACL's being applied to the 
interface that the Mikrotik is attached too? What happen if you 
eliminate using OSPF for now and just setup the configuration using 
static routes? Does it work then?



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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
There are a number of blackhole routes  and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, 
that's why it's so long. Probably overkill.

I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some of 
these IPs.

[ad...@mikrotik] > /routing ospf export
# feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5
# software id = -
#
/routing ospf instance
set default comment="" disabled=no distribute-default=never in-filter=ospf-in 
metric-bgp=20 \
metric-connected=20 metric-default=1 metric-other-ospf=auto metric-rip=20 
metric-static=20 \
name=default out-filter=ospf-out redistribute-bgp=no 
redistribute-connected=as-type-1 \
redistribute-other-ospf=no redistribute-rip=no redistribute-static=no 
router-id=10.0.4.3
/routing ospf area
set backbone area-id=0.0.0.0 comment="" disabled=no instance=default 
name=backbone type=default
/routing ospf interface
add authentication=none authentication-key="" authentication-key-id=1 
comment="" cost=10 \
dead-interval=40s disabled=no hello-interval=10s instance-id=0 
interface=ether1-gateway \
network-type=broadcast passive=no priority=1 retransmit-interval=5s 
transmit-delay=1s \
use-bfd=no
/routing ospf network
add area=backbone comment="" disabled=no network=10.0.4.0/27



Here are the relevant routes:

RS-1# ip show routes   

Destination  Gateway  Owner Netif
---  ---  - -
default  ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.25   StaticHREC-EIA 
10.0.4.0/27  directly connected   - WISP-201 
YYY.YYY.YYY.0/2410.0.4.3 OSPF_ASE  WISP-201 
XXX.XXX.XXX.24/30directly connected   - HREC-EIA 

[ad...@mikrotik] > ip route print

Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit

 #  DST-ADDRESSPREF-SRCGATEWAYDISTANCE
 0 ADo  0.0.0.0/0  -10.0.4.1   110 
 2 ADC  10.0.4.0/2710.0.4.3ether1-gateway 0   
30 ADC  yyy.yyy.yyy.0/24  zzz.zzz.zzz.1  ether2-local   0   
44 ADo  xxx.xxx.xxx.24/30  -10.0.4.1   110 

-Paul

On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Bret Clark wrote:

> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> {provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
>> <---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 
>> public addresses
>> 
>> I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work 
>> fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised over OSPF 
>> and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router on a 
>> traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses from 
>> an external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to make 
>> the route bi-directional, if that's the right term.
>> 
>> This is what I have in the Riverstone:
>> 
>> 325 : ip add route default gateway 
>> 362 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto static to-proto ospf network 
>> default
>> 363 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto direct to-proto ospf network 
>> all
>> 365 : ospf create area backbone
>> 367 : ospf add interface WISP-201 to-area backbone
>> 368 : ospf start
>> 
>> -Paul
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
>> 
> Hseems okay in the Riverstone, nothing blatant standing out. 
> You're not running NAT on the Mikrotik by any chance? What is the print 
> out from the Mikrotik when you run "/routing ospf export"?
> 
> Otherwise I would need to see what the route tables look like in the RS 
> and Mikrotik.
> 
> BTW...that must be one heck of a config on that RS if your OSPF config 
> doesn't start till line 365!
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread eje
Got a default route on the MikroTik pointing to your riverstone box?

/Eje
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-Original Message-
From: Paul Gerstenberger 
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:43:14 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

{provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
<---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 public 
addresses

I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work 
fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised over OSPF 
and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router on a 
traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses from an 
external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to make the 
route bi-directional, if that's the right term.

This is what I have in the Riverstone:

325 : ip add route default gateway 
362 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto static to-proto ospf network 
default
363 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto direct to-proto ospf network all
365 : ospf create area backbone
367 : ospf add interface WISP-201 to-area backbone
368 : ospf start

-Paul

On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bret Clark wrote:

> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been 
>> running a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've 
>> long outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack 
>> running v4.5 that we're going to use for our expansion and convert existing 
>> subscribers over to. If I can get the dang thing to work anyway.
>> 
>> So, here's what I got:
>> 
>> The Riverstone is still on the border, and will be until I can talk the 
>> higher-ups into replacing it. It still works and has plenty of capacity for 
>> us still, it's just that Riverstone Networks went under some time ago and 
>> there is no support for these things anymore. Anyway, it's here, and it has 
>> the default route to our provider. I have a new range of public IPs, and I 
>> need to have those public IPs accessible from the Mikrotik[s].
>> 
> 
> Having a hard time following exactly what you are doing...can you 
> attached a network drawing with the routes? We use Riverstones and 
> Mikrotiks in our backbone with no problems at all and I have quite a bit 
> of familiarity with Riverstone networks (I once worked for them :).
> 
> Bret
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Bret Clark
Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> {provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
> <---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 
> public addresses
>
> I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work 
> fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised over OSPF 
> and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router on a 
> traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses from 
> an external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to make the 
> route bi-directional, if that's the right term.
>
> This is what I have in the Riverstone:
>
> 325 : ip add route default gateway 
> 362 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto static to-proto ospf network 
> default
> 363 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto direct to-proto ospf network 
> all
> 365 : ospf create area backbone
> 367 : ospf add interface WISP-201 to-area backbone
> 368 : ospf start
>
> -Paul
>
> On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
>   
Hseems okay in the Riverstone, nothing blatant standing out. 
You're not running NAT on the Mikrotik by any chance? What is the print 
out from the Mikrotik when you run "/routing ospf export"?

Otherwise I would need to see what the route tables look like in the RS 
and Mikrotik.

BTW...that must be one heck of a config on that RS if your OSPF config 
doesn't start till line 365!



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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 10 February 2010 19:43, Paul Gerstenberger  wrote:
> {provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
> <---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 
> public addresses
>
> I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work 
> fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised over OSPF 
> and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router on a 
> traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses from 
> an external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to make the 
> route bi-directional, if that's the right term.
>
> This is what I have in the Riverstone:
>
> 325 : ip add route default gateway 
> 362 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto static to-proto ospf network 
> default
> 363 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto direct to-proto ospf network 
> all
> 365 : ospf create area backbone
> 367 : ospf add interface WISP-201 to-area backbone
> 368 : ospf start

Can you paste `ip route print` and `routing ospf neighbors print` from
the Mikrotik, and whatever the Riverstone's equal is?



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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
{provider} <---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]---> {riverstone ASBR} 
<---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]---> {mikrotik} <--- x.x.x.x/24 public 
addresses

I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work 
fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get advertised over OSPF 
and have local connectivity, but they stop at the border router on a 
traceroute. However, if you ping a device using one of those addresses from an 
external network, you get a response. So I'm missing something to make the 
route bi-directional, if that's the right term.

This is what I have in the Riverstone:

325 : ip add route default gateway 
362 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto static to-proto ospf network 
default
363 : ip-router policy redistribute from-proto direct to-proto ospf network all
365 : ospf create area backbone
367 : ospf add interface WISP-201 to-area backbone
368 : ospf start

-Paul

On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bret Clark wrote:

> Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been 
>> running a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've 
>> long outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack 
>> running v4.5 that we're going to use for our expansion and convert existing 
>> subscribers over to. If I can get the dang thing to work anyway.
>> 
>> So, here's what I got:
>> 
>> The Riverstone is still on the border, and will be until I can talk the 
>> higher-ups into replacing it. It still works and has plenty of capacity for 
>> us still, it's just that Riverstone Networks went under some time ago and 
>> there is no support for these things anymore. Anyway, it's here, and it has 
>> the default route to our provider. I have a new range of public IPs, and I 
>> need to have those public IPs accessible from the Mikrotik[s].
>> 
> 
> Having a hard time following exactly what you are doing...can you 
> attached a network drawing with the routes? We use Riverstones and 
> Mikrotiks in our backbone with no problems at all and I have quite a bit 
> of familiarity with Riverstone networks (I once worked for them :).
> 
> Bret
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Bret Clark
Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been 
> running a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've 
> long outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack 
> running v4.5 that we're going to use for our expansion and convert existing 
> subscribers over to. If I can get the dang thing to work anyway.
>
> So, here's what I got:
>
> The Riverstone is still on the border, and will be until I can talk the 
> higher-ups into replacing it. It still works and has plenty of capacity for 
> us still, it's just that Riverstone Networks went under some time ago and 
> there is no support for these things anymore. Anyway, it's here, and it has 
> the default route to our provider. I have a new range of public IPs, and I 
> need to have those public IPs accessible from the Mikrotik[s].
>   

Having a hard time following exactly what you are doing...can you 
attached a network drawing with the routes? We use Riverstones and 
Mikrotiks in our backbone with no problems at all and I have quite a bit 
of familiarity with Riverstone networks (I once worked for them :).

Bret



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[WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been running 
a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've long 
outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack running v4.5 
that we're going to use for our expansion and convert existing subscribers over 
to. If I can get the dang thing to work anyway.

So, here's what I got:

The Riverstone is still on the border, and will be until I can talk the 
higher-ups into replacing it. It still works and has plenty of capacity for us 
still, it's just that Riverstone Networks went under some time ago and there is 
no support for these things anymore. Anyway, it's here, and it has the default 
route to our provider. I have a new range of public IPs, and I need to have 
those public IPs accessible from the Mikrotik[s].

At this point, I have OSPF running between the routers, both the Riverstone and 
the Mikrotiks are advertising their attached networks, and the Riverstone 
appears to be redistributing it's default route in OSPF. Everything works 
locally, but I'm not able to get OUT to the internet from our public addresses 
when attached to the Mikrotik.

BUT, I do have connectivity from an outside network IN to those addresses. 
Something is not working/configured to make the routing bidirectional. I don't 
understand what else I need to do.

If I directly attach the public addresses to the Riverstone, everything works. 
I have allowed that network it in the applicable ACLs, etc.

Can anyone offer me some tips and suggestions? I've worn myself out 
troubleshooting it, I just don't know what else to look for!

Thanks!

---
Paul Gerstenberger
Hood River Electric Cooperative
Communications Access Cooperative



[provider] - We have three Class-C networks of Public IPs assigned to us
--
{default gateway}
--
[riverstone] - Our core router, runs NAT and has directly connected networks of 
private and public IPs, uses static route / default gateway to our upstream 
provider. Two of the Class-C public ranges are used directly on the riverstone.
--
{ospf}
--
[RB1000 w/ v4.5] - Runs user manager, planning on running PPPoE over vlans to 
our access points. I want to be able to assign addresses from our third Class-C 
as needed and run NAT for the bulk of customers.
--
{PPPoE}
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[subscribers] - Using a consumer router (D-Link, Netgear, TrendNet, etc) as 
PPPoE client.



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