Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
Better use the connection while you can to bring up Noah's designs. BTW: Thanks for the post, Patrick! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Way t...@way.vg To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:46:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. Rather you hope the don't. I don't think you will be worried out network access if that were to happen though lol On Nov 7, 2014 8:36 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: blockquote Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd . M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
...links have 2 sides - Patrick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.commailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.pnghttp://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on image003.pnghttp://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
If my subscribers homes are underwater their internet is the least of my worries. Ok. I'm playing hardball - but seriously. Sell us on why having a waterproof CPE is necessary? On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: ...links have 2 sides - Patrick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
It's only a concern if they're manually writing checks. Auto-pay that shit! ;-) (As this is public... I'm obviously JK.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 1:15:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. If my subscribers homes are underwater their internet is the least of my worries. Ok. I'm playing hardball - but seriously. Sell us on why having a waterproof CPE is necessary? On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: ...links have 2 sides - Patrick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: blockquote Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd . M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. /blockquote blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
I thought the exact same stuff, Matt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 8, 2014 2:15 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: If my subscribers homes are underwater their internet is the least of my worries. Ok. I'm playing hardball - but seriously. Sell us on why having a waterproof CPE is necessary? On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: ...links have 2 sides *- Patrick* *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, *Patrick Leary* National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. *M* 727.501.3735 *|* *Skype* pleary image004.png http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on image003.png http://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
We have many customers near the coast, and we have a pile of Canopy 100 900 MHz radios that rusted off their mounts due to corrosion. Another pile has units where the Ethernet connectors essentially *rotted* because the installers did not use silicon grease inside the units on the back of the ethernet conenctors and polyphenyl ether on the connectors itself. So while waterproof may not be crucial, being rated and used for the particular purpose is. Daniel Mullen Island Telecom Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote .. If my subscribers homes are underwater their internet is the least of my worries. Ok. I'm playing hardball - but seriously. Sell us on why having a waterproof CPE is necessary? On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: ...links have 2 sides - Patrick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
That's a valid purpose I has not thought of. Being a land lubber. On Nov 8, 2014, at 4:46 PM, wi...@metrocom.ca wrote: We have many customers near the coast, and we have a pile of Canopy 100 900 MHz radios that rusted off their mounts due to corrosion. Another pile has units where the Ethernet connectors essentially *rotted* because the installers did not use silicon grease inside the units on the back of the ethernet conenctors and polyphenyl ether on the connectors itself. So while waterproof may not be crucial, being rated and used for the particular purpose is. Daniel Mullen Island Telecom Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote .. If my subscribers homes are underwater their internet is the least of my worries. Ok. I'm playing hardball - but seriously. Sell us on why having a waterproof CPE is necessary? On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: ...links have 2 sides - Patrick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating. My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: [cid:image002.png@01CFFACB.5227F850] [cid:image005.png@01CFFACB.5227F850] Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary [cid:image004.png@01CFFAD0.90DEDD20]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on [cid:image007.png@01CECEFE.8A880C70] http://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
Wiki has a good article on this by the way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 7, 2014 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, *Patrick Leary* National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. *M* 727.501.3735 *|* *Skype* pleary http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on [image: cid:image007.png@01CECEFE.8A880C70] http://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, Patrick Leary National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. M 727.501.3735 | Skype pleary image004.png See us on image003.png This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
Mine flooded 20... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 7, 2014 9:36 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, *Patrick Leary* National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. *M* 727.501.3735 *|* *Skype* pleary image004.png http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on image003.png http://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Water in your radios? Know your IP rating.
Rather you hope the don't. I don't think you will be worried out network access if that were to happen though lol On Nov 7, 2014 8:36 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: My towers do not flood 80 feet in the air. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: Conversations over the past several weeks make clear many are not aware of the meaning of the environmental specifications, in particular the IP rating. It matters, as the nature of your environment informs you about the gear you need to use. Do you have broad temperature swings? Thermal expansion can cause cracking around connector housings in some levels of gear. Ice storms? Nothing exploits a crack like freezing water. Operate near the desert? Dust protection matters. Near the coast? Salt is highly corrosive. Are you complaining about water getting into your boxes? If you don't know the IP rating, you really can't complain becuase you may be using the gear beyond its specs. As in the law, ignorance is no defense, so in the interest of dispelling ignorance, here's a quick tutorial on the IP rating. First, it's not sequential. I mean, the two digits have no relation to each other. In that sense it is NOT a number: IP55 does not mean IP fifty-five, but rather is more appropriately thought of as IP five five. Come again?!? Well, the first number refers to protection level from particulate matter -- solids -- like dust and sand. The second number deals with protection from liquid incursion. (There can be a third number, usually left out, that deals with mechanical tolerance.) In any event, here's the key to crack the code: image002.png image005.png Know the rating of your equipment, at both ends. Environmental truck rolls are almost 100% avoidable. Environmental failure at the base station impacts the whole sector. Failures at the CPE level can cause repeated truck rolls and is a time sink trying to identify root cause before the truck rolls. Outdoor devices with a first digit of 5 or less, will take in dust. Similarly, anything with a second number of 6 or below will take on water because it was not designed not to. These are consequential specifications. You'd better believe your telco or cable competition has minimum environmental requirements as a rule. Are you any less serious a player in your market? Control those variables within your control. Regards, *Patrick Leary* National Sales Director | Telrad Networks Ltd. *M* 727.501.3735 *|* *Skype* pleary image004.png http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet See us on image003.png http://bit.ly/18nna4j This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
