[WISPA] News from Athena
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[WISPA] News that should be distributed to members
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[WISPA] News you can use: Net Neutrality Advocates In Charge Of Obama Team Review of FCC
Susan Crawford, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and Kevin Werbach, a former FCC staffer, organizer of the annual tech conference Supernova http://www.supernova2008.com/, and a Wharton professor, will lead the Obama-Biden transition team's review of the FCC. Both are highly-regarded outside-the-Beltway experts in telecom policy, and they've both been pretty harsh critics of the Bush administration's telecom policies in the past year. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/11/net-neutrality.html If you think net neutrality is a good idea (some do, some don't) you're in for a treat. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Dang Dee that's cool! Get Ed Wyatt fishing will ya? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W.D.McKinney Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Not far enough north Patrick :-) Try Kenai, Alaska around July 19th. We can sit in lounge chairs overlooking the Kenai River, eat fresh Red Salmon, and relax. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:51:37 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire
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Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Here are some further details. http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070309/mar2007pi20070308789499.html?.v=1 One of the problems with this though is that his network is not WiMAX, no even upgradeable to WiMAX. The NextNet gear used here is entirely proprietary and has poorer functionality and performance than WiMAX. I just hope his current network does not give WiMAX an unearned black eye. I suppose now that Clearwire's visibility is super high, the press may dig into the service details, trot out unhappy customers (any network with that many users has plenty of happy and unhappy customers, no matter how good or bad). The press loves to try to kick the knees out from under folks when they are riding high. Patrick This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Funny, I was just checking out the news according to Yahoo Financial for ticker ALVR to see whats going on. You guys at Alvarion are tearing up the overseas WiMax markets. George Patrick Leary wrote: Here are some further details. http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070309/mar2007pi20070308789499.html?.v=1 One of the problems with this though is that his network is not WiMAX, no even upgradeable to WiMAX. The NextNet gear used here is entirely proprietary and has poorer functionality and performance than WiMAX. I just hope his current network does not give WiMAX an unearned black eye. I suppose now that Clearwire's visibility is super high, the press may dig into the service details, trot out unhappy customers (any network with that many users has plenty of happy and unhappy customers, no matter how good or bad). The press loves to try to kick the knees out from under folks when they are riding high. Patrick -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
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Can't comment on the stock price, other than to joke that it has been on sale all through last year :) We are doing our best. 2007 should be a respectable year for us in North America as well. In terms of WiMAX, the latest data from Maravedis Research shows that 65% of all WiMAX network being commercially deployed or trialed are based on our gear. To put that in perspective, February 14, a certain multi-billion dollar competitor issued a PR saying they have been selected for 4 WiMAX contracts and had trials for another 23. To date, we had 140 WiMAX networks in commercial deployment and over another 200 in trials by the end of 2006. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Funny, I was just checking out the news according to Yahoo Financial for ticker ALVR to see whats going on. You guys at Alvarion are tearing up the overseas WiMax markets. George Patrick Leary wrote: Here are some further details. http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070309/mar2007pi20070308789499.html?.v=1 One of the problems with this though is that his network is not WiMAX, no even upgradeable to WiMAX. The NextNet gear used here is entirely proprietary and has poorer functionality and performance than WiMAX. I just hope his current network does not give WiMAX an unearned black eye. I suppose now that Clearwire's visibility is super high, the press may dig into the service details, trot out unhappy customers (any network with that many users has plenty of happy and unhappy customers, no matter how good or bad). The press loves to try to kick the knees out from under folks when they are riding high. Patrick -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure
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I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong. I still don't get Google's product model. What do they have that makes anyone else any money? Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the day). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime. In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In 2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under 11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1 million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a cash-generating machine Marlon. Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report filed with the SEC. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
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? Marlon, income is never recorded with investor monies except to the extent corporate investments generate returns (or losses) that must be recorded. Google makes nearly everyone money, including you and me, explained in the simplest terms to be by creating amazing efficiencies that were not there prior. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong. I still don't get Google's product model. What do they have that makes anyone else any money? Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the day). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime. In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In 2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under 11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1 million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a cash-generating machine Marlon. Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report filed with the SEC. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09
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Marlon is missing the advertizing dollars. Eve I am getting money from google through their adsense. Not a lot, but it's a check. George Patrick Leary wrote: ? Marlon, income is never recorded with investor monies except to the extent corporate investments generate returns (or losses) that must be recorded. Google makes nearly everyone money, including you and me, explained in the simplest terms to be by creating amazing efficiencies that were not there prior. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong. I still don't get Google's product model. What do they have that makes anyone else any money? Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the day). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime. In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In 2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under 11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1 million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a cash-generating machine Marlon. Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report filed with the SEC. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com
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Yeah, that's the part I don't get. Who's buying things from those that pay into adsence? I never have and don't know anyone that has! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Marlon is missing the advertizing dollars. Eve I am getting money from google through their adsense. Not a lot, but it's a check. George Patrick Leary wrote: ? Marlon, income is never recorded with investor monies except to the extent corporate investments generate returns (or losses) that must be recorded. Google makes nearly everyone money, including you and me, explained in the simplest terms to be by creating amazing efficiencies that were not there prior. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong. I still don't get Google's product model. What do they have that makes anyone else any money? Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the day). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime. In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In 2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under 11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1 million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a cash-generating machine Marlon. Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report filed with the SEC. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c
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Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL
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I understand how you wouldn't be familiar with web sites and e commerce. If you want to be at the top of a search result, you pay. At the very top #1 you pay the most and as you go down the list you pay less. I believe it's also done on a bid ask type auction type system , or so I've been told. Now with that tidbit of information, you can figure out how they are getting paid and can assume how those who direct people to google or yahoo get reffereal commissions. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Yeah, that's the part I don't get. Who's buying things from those that pay into adsence? I never have and don't know anyone that has! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Marlon is missing the advertizing dollars. Eve I am getting money from google through their adsense. Not a lot, but it's a check. George Patrick Leary wrote: ? Marlon, income is never recorded with investor monies except to the extent corporate investments generate returns (or losses) that must be recorded. Google makes nearly everyone money, including you and me, explained in the simplest terms to be by creating amazing efficiencies that were not there prior. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news I guess when I said that I phrased it wrong. I still don't get Google's product model. What do they have that makes anyone else any money? Also, when I think of a company making money I want to know what the income is WITHOUT the investor monies. I'd be making tons of money if I got to count loans as income (and investor is just a banker at the end of the day). Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Google is not losing money. It is profitable and has been for sometime. In just the past four quarters, in fact, it reported upside surprises in terms of EPS in each quarter. It also has a war chest of billions. In 2006 it generated about $10.6 billion in revenues...all with under 11,000 full time employees. In other words, they are generating about $1 million in revenue for every full time employee. Google is a cash-generating machine Marlon. Not sure where you get your data. I get mine from its Annual Report filed with the SEC. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made
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Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public
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Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose
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Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. And underfunded I have a sub who does signs and printing etc with his computerized stuff. Kids only about 25, he made a skin for the Wii that got very popular. He just hits the print button and out pops as many skins as he needs. Lots of profit for him. He LOVES GOOGLE and WANTS them to help him sell his .20 skins for 5.00 See how we are burdened with heavy infrastructure costs and debt and a kid with a good idea and a nice printer can use google to make a lot of money... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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When did ClearWire do an IPO? They were private from the beginning then they were about to do an IPO and Intel and Motorola bailed them out with the cash they needed. If they went public it's news to me. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter R. Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ winmail.dat-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message
(Horribly OT) Google AdSense (was: Re: [WISPA] news)
George Rogato wrote: If you want to be at the top of a search result, you pay. At the very top #1 you pay the most and as you go down the list you pay less. I believe it's also done on a bid ask type auction type system , or so I've been told. For the sake of clarity, Google's search results and ads are clearly differentiated. (I just want to mention that because a number of other search engines used to put their paid results in as normal search results, and didn't make it clear that they were paid. Heck, some may still do so. I can't think of anyone I know that uses anything BUT Google, so I can't easily confirm whether this practice still exists.) I've been, in different lives, on both sides of the Google Adsense equation, and the above description is basically correct. As an ad buyer, you pick one or more keywords that, when someone searches for them, they see your ad. It's basically a real-time auction, and the going rate for a given keyword can change from day to day. You say I'm willing to spend up to X cents per display, and up to Y dollars per day, and Google generally does a pretty good job of making sure you'll get your money's worth. As a Web site creator, it's dead simple. You stick a block of JavaScript on your site, ads show up, and you magically get money every couple months. (Or every month if your sites are bigger than my personal sites...) You can also stick a small search box on your site, and earn commission on ads shown through it. Just about every ISP's site I've seen has some sort of handy search teh intarweb box right on their front page, which your end-users are probably using anyway, so this is as close to free money as you're likely to get in the ISP racket. Google, of course, makes money on this because what they charge to display an ad to a prospective customer is greater than what they pay Joe Webmaster to show that ad to someone else. (I think the split is 50/50 actually, but I haven't doucle checked that figure.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Not far enough north Patrick :-) Try Kenai, Alaska around July 19th. We can sit in lounge chairs overlooking the Kenai River, eat fresh Red Salmon, and relax. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:51:37 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money
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I just might find an excuse to take you up on that Dee. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W.D.McKinney Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Not far enough north Patrick :-) Try Kenai, Alaska around July 19th. We can sit in lounge chairs overlooking the Kenai River, eat fresh Red Salmon, and relax. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:51:37 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have
RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news
How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever
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I've seen the standings...one could walk the course faster than Marlon rides! :-) I give him credit for running it though! Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run
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Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and new towers coming online I think things are going just fine! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17536082/ Forbes Mercy wrote: When did ClearWire do an IPO? They were private from the beginning then they were about to do an IPO and Intel and Motorola bailed them out with the cash they needed. If they went public it's news to me. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter R. Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't enough left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of the bills get
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Wednesday was the day according to: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070308/clearwire_ipo.html?.v=13 Craig McCaw's latest venture landed with a thud on Wall Street Thursday after critics said his underwriters sold too many shares at too high a price. Clearwire Corp., a wireless Internet service provider based in Kirkland, Wash., raised $600 million in an initial public offering Wednesday night. Shares fell 38 cents, or 1.5 percent, in their first day of trading to close at $24.62 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. -- This is what we all should be doing. Forbes Mercy wrote: When did ClearWire do an IPO? They were private from the beginning then they were about to do an IPO and Intel and Motorola bailed them out with the cash they needed. If they went public it's news to me. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I filed a comment on TV Whitespace today... I had to think about it for a long time, first. Here's my comments, probably not in good format, due to the webmail interface. == In this proceeding, the FCC is proposing to allow unlicensed use of TV Whitespace. The stated goal is to promote broadband and consumer and business information services - presumably data, video, internet and other networking applications. I highly agree with this idea. There is one drawback to this notion - that being that in this spectrum space, almost any consumer item that might be purchased retail, would have extensive reach. The characteristic that makes this spectrum valuable and absolutely essential for the deployment of ubiquitous wireless services, is it's ability to penetrate outdoor obstacles, such as foliage, buildings, etc. This same characteristic also creates a huge challenge, in that if a vast array of consumer items, like cordless phones, baby monitors, in home networking, or even on-campus networking is deployed in a non-directional topology, the interference reach is enormous, and will easily result in the first two or three users of any particular frequency spectrum preventing any additional use or deployments, due to wide area interference issues. Unlicensed, at least to me, implies the ability for anyone, anywhere, to use this spectrum for ANY purpose. In the unlicensed spectrum, where Part-15 rules apply, in 900 mhz, 2.4 mhz, and 5 ghz, interference is rampant, often from devices which are spectrum hogs in that they use all available spectrum to accomplish very little. Often these devices are designed for robustness in interference rejection, which means they are relatively unaffected, but cause total disruption for any other use. While appropriate spectrum (well below 1 ghz) is required if the Commission's stated goals of ubiquitious information services deployments can possibly become realized in any fashion, the Commission needs to use judgement and careful thought about rules governing its use. Non-exclusive licensing, similar to that proposed for 3650 - 3700 Mhz, requiring licensing be restricted solely to information services would accomplish this. Alternatively, rules which allow only outdoor type of digital information or networking equipment to be used would accomplish the same. Additionally, both TV Whitespace and 3650-3700 mhz present an opportunity for incredibly rapid innovantion, provided that some small adjustments to equipment certification rules could be made. Across the nation, thousands of small, community, block, neighborhood, or even free public access networks have been built on commodity WiFi equipment. These networks are often not technically compliant with Part-15 rules, because individuals were able to innovate with software replacement, or removed consumer shells from retail or surplus retail (often obsolete) products and then reconstructed them suitable for outdoor use. Today, commodity networking equipment cost is a tiny fraction of that of proprietary. It's often built on open standards, which has encouraged programmers (who may have no RF understanding ) to write software that, coupled with a pre-built networking modules and an inexpensive processor becomes a device that for very little money has technological capabilities that exceed even the imagined limits of just a decade ago. Often, they exceed the capabilities of any commercial products available, at any price. However, technically, all this is illegal, even though components which have already been tested and found completely compliant and within standard limits have their environment changed, and thus no longer technically comply with the certification methodology and rules. These illegal devices often have technical capabilities that vastly exceed any certified products that a single manufacturer can create, because they are the collaborative work of thousands of people world-wide, using free tools and free software, and open standards. I cannot more strongly encourage the FCC to consider a scheme of certification for WISP, Information SErvices Providers, etc, equipment that takes advantage of this incredibly enormous potential of the open and free world of ideas, talent, and innovation. This could be accomplished with a componentized rules, where a nearly fully self-contained RF module, like a mini-pci card, is certified compliant to an RF profile, including out of band emissions, etc, and can then be controlled by anyone's software, who can then certify that it does not operate the rf module outside of it's certified limits. Then, antenna manufacturers could then certify the gain, and directionality and rf profiles of thier products, which would allow a simple profile matching and limiting process which would then produce a huge array of available, competitively priced and competitively
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Well you can also visit any time here in South Louisiana where when visiting you can get eatin' up by mosquitoes whist sucking on crawfish heads, eatin' hog crackling and boudin dripping in sweat at 90 deg and 100% humidity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday
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Spent many a night all over those parts. Not just the requisite Mardi Gras stuff, but in my former life spent many nights in places like Lake Charles (built the fiber plant for some of those Vista Chemical plants). Sadly, the town is overrun (maybe things are different) with old chemical plants and their consequences. There was a great hole-in-the-wall, out-of-the-way lunch spot I wish I could remember where you'd only find locals. Now that was some food. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Well you can also visit any time here in South Louisiana where when visiting you can get eatin' up by mosquitoes whist sucking on crawfish heads, eatin' hog crackling and boudin dripping in sweat at 90 deg and 100% humidity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you
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Or you could show up in the summer when it is REALLY miserable. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Well you can also visit any time here in South Louisiana where when visiting you can get eatin' up by mosquitoes whist sucking on crawfish heads, eatin' hog crackling and boudin dripping in sweat at 90 deg and 100% humidity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick
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Ya'all talking about Hymel's Seafood and Lounge on the levee road out side of D'ville, A few miles from the Sunshine bridge? Was there in October, damn it was better than I remembered! Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Spent many a night all over those parts. Not just the requisite Mardi Gras stuff, but in my former life spent many nights in places like Lake Charles (built the fiber plant for some of those Vista Chemical plants). Sadly, the town is overrun (maybe things are different) with old chemical plants and their consequences. There was a great hole-in-the-wall, out-of-the-way lunch spot I wish I could remember where you'd only find locals. Now that was some food. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Well you can also visit any time here in South Louisiana where when visiting you can get eatin' up by mosquitoes whist sucking on crawfish heads, eatin' hog crackling and boudin dripping in sweat at 90 deg and 100% humidity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Third weekend in September. Things get started on the 13th this year. As for the dirtbike thing. I honestly don't know. Step off a curb wrong and I'm messed up for days. I rode that 100 mile race last year and was only lightly sore for a couple of days. It's a wonderful thing! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and cave it with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon --- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news LOL Naw, I live in the real world. I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works for an accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my eyes glaze over. Or when the bank tells me I'm not making
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What does Clearwire use for equipment? On 3/9/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
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NextNet 2.5GHz MMDS up here. Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: RickG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:20:51 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] news What does Clearwire use for equipment? On 3/9/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play with Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money and can't get growth funds. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] news Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth spectrum. EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. ELN will market TIVO. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84
