Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
I got some old WRAP boards on hand if you want to go that route. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] RB532 replacement... Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
I threw a few old WRAP/SOS boxes on ebay when I was cleaning out the garage. They all work and have v2 license. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=220223141328ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=012 Jim Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I got some old WRAP boards on hand if you want to go that route. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] RB532 replacement... Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
The 150's are EOL ? whats the replacement? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement... 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
I was told that while the 532 was EOL, the 532A would remain available for a while yet... Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
2 reasons I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand. At one time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different things. And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use the same power. one last thing... I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft. I remember having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before. This, to me, is a step backwards. I no longer replace just the board. I have a standard build of board, enclosure,static protection and so on... we just undo the u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap. We never open the weatherproof enclosure in the air any more. Travis Johnson wrote: You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
Nope, if your vendors have them, thats all they are getting. Dennis Burgess Mikrotik Certified Consultant / Trainer www.linktechs.net WISP/ISP Support Solutions Home of the PoweRouter 732! Blair Davis wrote: I was told that while the 532 was EOL, the 532A would remain available for a while yet... Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
Good idea! :) Dennis Burgess Mikrotik Certified Consultant / Trainer www.linktechs.net WISP/ISP Support Solutions Home of the PoweRouter 732! Blair Davis wrote: 2 reasons I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand. At one time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different things. And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use the same power. one last thing... I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft. I remember having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before. This, to me, is a step backwards. I no longer replace just the board. I have a standard build of board, enclosure,static protection and so on... we just undo the u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap. We never open the weatherproof enclosure in the air any more. Travis Johnson wrote: You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
I agree. So keep doing that. Put the DC-DC converter on the units that need it and always send 48v up the tower. Or standardize on the RB600 series. They go to 56V. Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote: Good idea! :) Dennis Burgess Mikrotik Certified Consultant / Trainer www.linktechs.net WISP/ISP Support Solutions Home of the PoweRouter 732! Blair Davis wrote: 2 reasons I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand. At one time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different things. And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use the same power. one last thing... I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft. I remember having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before. This, to me, is a step backwards. I no longer replace just the board. I have a standard build of board, enclosure,static protection and so on... we just undo the u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap. We never open the weatherproof enclosure in the air any more. Travis Johnson wrote: You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
Well, it seems a step backward to install a 24v to 48v converter and thus add another point of failure, instead of just replacing the PoE. All of the new boards only support up to 28V, so unless you are going to continue to find old boards on the used market, at some point you will have to switch to 24V. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: 2 reasons I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand. At one time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different things. And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use the same power. one last thing... I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft. I remember having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before. This, to me, is a step backwards. I no longer replace just the board. I have a standard build of board, enclosure,static protection and so on... we just undo the u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap. We never open the weatherproof enclosure in the air any more. Travis Johnson wrote: You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 replacement...
This is a major issue and all you can do is plan for it. The stepdown from 48 to 24 or 18 is much less of a worry vs AC/DC - DC/AC conversion. The loss should be minimal, and transformers like this, should not fail often. They are simple devices and are relitivly cheap and replaceable. I do understand, how easy it would be to use all 48 volt. We even had a number of requests for -48v Power Supplies in our PoweRouters. 12 volt is easy, the -48 it s a bit harder. Lots of telco rooms etc use these. Dennis Burgess Mikrotik Certified Consultant / Trainer www.linktechs.net WISP/ISP Support Solutions Home of the PoweRouter 732! Travis Johnson wrote: Well, it seems a step backward to install a 24v to 48v converter and thus add another point of failure, instead of just replacing the PoE. All of the new boards only support up to 28V, so unless you are going to continue to find old boards on the used market, at some point you will have to switch to 24V. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: 2 reasons I've made it a point to make all my tower equipment use the same power to eliminate the need to keep different spares on hand. At one time I had lots of different types of power supplies for different things. And it is much harder to kill equipment by accident if they all use the same power. one last thing... I've never had problems with voltage drop on a 48V system... no matter if the cable run is 50ft or 300ft. I remember having to pick the power supply vs the cable length before. This, to me, is a step backwards. I no longer replace just the board. I have a standard build of board, enclosure,static protection and so on... we just undo the u-bolts, disconnect the LMR and ethernet and swap. We never open the weatherproof enclosure in the air any more. Travis Johnson wrote: You have to replace the board (which means a tower visit) so why not just replace the PoE at the same time? Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: My problems with the replacements is the power supply. I use only 48V POE for my towers... and most of the new gear is not 48V. So now I'm looking for small 48V to 24V DC-DC converters... Dennis Burgess - Link Techs wrote: 3x is what is out. The 133 and 133c's are EOL, as are the 532s, 150s and for most part the entire 100 series boards. Figure you will have to start using 400s, 300, and 600s. We do have new cases, nice hinged enclousers and build to spec our routerboard series. These will fit the 333's without issues. We are just getting ready to put up a dual-pol n-stream link with 600s, think 2 foot on one side and 3 foot dish on the other. I'm sure we will post the information on our MT list... Scott Reed wrote: I understand you don't want v3, but I have been moving to RB333s with 3.x and have had no issues at all. They boot faster and support more radios. RB600 uses same mounting holes and daughter cards. I have one 600 ready to install, but have none in production, yet. I put up a POP with 3 333s on 3RC9 and they are still running on RC12. I should get them up to 3.6 or 3.7, but that takes time. I have a 330 running 3.3 that is doing great as well. I have everything from a RB230 running 2.8.x to 532s running all sorts of 2.9 along with the 330s. At this point I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and start moving to 3.x and the newer cards. Mark McElvy wrote: Since RB532s are no longer available, what is everyone using to replace them? It would be nice not to have to replace the box again (using the 7x6x2's from wisp-router) and I am not quite ready to run v3 on my network. Any suggestions? Mark McElvy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
