Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
At 11/18/2010 11:48 PM, you wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 11/18/2010 10:10 PM, JeromieR wrote: This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. The tricky part is licensing. You need to go through an aggregator, who makes the deal with Tellywood on behalf of its customers. Small operators can't even get the time of day from the likes of Viacom, CBS, Disney, NBCU, NewsCorp, and Time-Warner. I know some small operators who have the necessary arrangements. The delivery aggregators, like Comcast Media Center, could probably also point you at some license aggregators that they work with. I will look at them. Do you think any of the people you know with the agreements would share their experiences? One of my clients is happy with Telechannel/4Com, out of Minneapolis, for his IPTV. You might want to start there with Tiny Hynds at 952-591-5909, ty...@4com.com. I'm just passing along his recommendation. The term public IP connection is a bit tricky. There are IPTV systems out there, and even U-Verse probably fits that category, but I would not try to stream real broadcast TV over the public Internet. Too fat. Usually IPTV feeds the head end directly; it could use a digital turnaround router (DTA) to turn the satellite-fed digital stream into an IP stream. These remain encrypted; you need approved middleware to control the set-top boxes that do the decoding. That can be expensive, though there are different options depending on your volume. That will not be a issue here. I can do DS3 or OC3 or higher if really needed to the dsl network. That will be enough for a few streams I hope. It's not the line rate. If you were passing it along one ISP's backbone, it would probably work, but peering is often lossy, and the backbone isn't really engineered for the QoS that linear streaming requires. On the other hand, picking a signal off of a satellite isn't really that hard. Even a C-band dish isn't that big a deal, and a Ku-band dish is trivial. The real fun comes once you have the (encrypted) signal in hand. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 11/18/2010 11:48 PM, you wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 11/18/2010 10:10 PM, JeromieR wrote: This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. The tricky part is licensing. You need to go through an aggregator, who makes the deal with Tellywood on behalf of its customers. Small operators can't even get the time of day from the likes of Viacom, CBS, Disney, NBCU, NewsCorp, and Time-Warner. I know some small operators who have the necessary arrangements. The delivery aggregators, like Comcast Media Center, could probably also point you at some license aggregators that they work with. I will look at them. Do you think any of the people you know with the agreements would share their experiences? One of my clients is happy with Telechannel/4Com, out of Minneapolis, for his IPTV. You might want to start there with Tiny Hynds at 952-591-5909, ty...@4com.com. I'm just passing along his recommendation. Thank you I will. The term public IP connection is a bit tricky. There are IPTV systems out there, and even U-Verse probably fits that category, but I would not try to stream real broadcast TV over the public Internet. Too fat. Usually IPTV feeds the head end directly; it could use a digital turnaround router (DTA) to turn the satellite-fed digital stream into an IP stream. These remain encrypted; you need approved middleware to control the set-top boxes that do the decoding. That can be expensive, though there are different options depending on your volume. That will not be a issue here. I can do DS3 or OC3 or higher if really needed to the dsl network. That will be enough for a few streams I hope. It's not the line rate. If you were passing it along one ISP's backbone, it would probably work, but peering is often lossy, and the backbone isn't really engineered for the QoS that linear streaming requires. On the other hand, picking a signal off of a satellite isn't really that hard. Even a C-band dish isn't that big a deal, and a Ku-band dish is trivial. The real fun comes once you have the (encrypted) signal in hand. This would be a direct dedicated feed to the core DSL ATM for the state. All DSL for the CLEC terminates at one point. I already do some high bw applications on it and it works. True I do not know the upper limits of their network. I plan to find it =) Its trivial to move a stream. Its the STB end that is a issue. I already use Slingo's and Roku's. Its acceptable to most people. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
At 11/19/2010 12:32 PM, you wrote: ... The term public IP connection is a bit tricky. There are IPTV systems out there, and even U-Verse probably fits that category, but I would not try to stream real broadcast TV over the public Internet. Too fat. Usually IPTV feeds the head end directly; it could use a digital turnaround router (DTA) to turn the satellite-fed digital stream into an IP stream. These remain encrypted; you need approved middleware to control the set-top boxes that do the decoding. That can be expensive, though there are different options depending on your volume. That will not be a issue here. I can do DS3 or OC3 or higher if really needed to the dsl network. That will be enough for a few streams I hope. It's not the line rate. If you were passing it along one ISP's backbone, it would probably work, but peering is often lossy, and the backbone isn't really engineered for the QoS that linear streaming requires. On the other hand, picking a signal off of a satellite isn't really that hard. Even a C-band dish isn't that big a deal, and a Ku-band dish is trivial. The real fun comes once you have the (encrypted) signal in hand. This would be a direct dedicated feed to the core DSL ATM for the state. All DSL for the CLEC terminates at one point. I already do some high bw applications on it and it works. True I do not know the upper limits of their network. I plan to find it =) You'll be okay on the DSL side. ATM is fine for this purpose. Indeed, ADSL was designed for video distribution. It wasn't ready for prime time in 1993, but then the public Internet happened and it was repurposed. I had thought you wanted to pull down some channel feeds from the program suppliers via the public Internet. That would be the problem side. Its trivial to move a stream. Its the STB end that is a issue. I already use Slingo's and Roku's. Its acceptable to most people. IPTV STBs are pretty cheap and powerful nowadays. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
At 11/18/2010 10:10 PM, JeromieR wrote: This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. The tricky part is licensing. You need to go through an aggregator, who makes the deal with Tellywood on behalf of its customers. Small operators can't even get the time of day from the likes of Viacom, CBS, Disney, NBCU, NewsCorp, and Time-Warner. I know some small operators who have the necessary arrangements. The delivery aggregators, like Comcast Media Center, could probably also point you at some license aggregators that they work with. The term public IP connection is a bit tricky. There are IPTV systems out there, and even U-Verse probably fits that category, but I would not try to stream real broadcast TV over the public Internet. Too fat. Usually IPTV feeds the head end directly; it could use a digital turnaround router (DTA) to turn the satellite-fed digital stream into an IP stream. These remain encrypted; you need approved middleware to control the set-top boxes that do the decoding. That can be expensive, though there are different options depending on your volume. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
Check out EchoStar, NRTC, NCTC, etc. Google for IPTV aggregator. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 9:10 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] TV over IP
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 11/18/2010 10:10 PM, JeromieR wrote: This would be over wired (DSL) not wireless. The red tape really just clouds my ability to find solid information. The tricky part is licensing. You need to go through an aggregator, who makes the deal with Tellywood on behalf of its customers. Small operators can't even get the time of day from the likes of Viacom, CBS, Disney, NBCU, NewsCorp, and Time-Warner. I know some small operators who have the necessary arrangements. The delivery aggregators, like Comcast Media Center, could probably also point you at some license aggregators that they work with. I will look at them. Do you think any of the people you know with the agreements would share their experiences? The term public IP connection is a bit tricky. There are IPTV systems out there, and even U-Verse probably fits that category, but I would not try to stream real broadcast TV over the public Internet. Too fat. Usually IPTV feeds the head end directly; it could use a digital turnaround router (DTA) to turn the satellite-fed digital stream into an IP stream. These remain encrypted; you need approved middleware to control the set-top boxes that do the decoding. That can be expensive, though there are different options depending on your volume. That will not be a issue here. I can do DS3 or OC3 or higher if really needed to the dsl network. That will be enough for a few streams I hope. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It's more difficult to get a license for wireless access networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/18/2010 3:32 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: There is a bit of discussion going on within FISPA about IPTV. You may want to consider joining that group if you are interested. There are people on there doing it, and others that are in the process. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have to work out a deal with them (ABC/etc) or find someone who already has and sell their service. I have heard nothing but absolute horror stories to get those agreements - between security, money and technology it is a mess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I am not sure how that would give license to deliver 'ABC/NBC/etc'. What I want ot do is directly feed my DSL people with a IPTV feed On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If you can attach yourself to the network in Wapakoneta, OH you can plug right in and get ABC/NBC/etc. We looked at it a while back and decided not to waste the money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: What progress, if any, has anyone made in being able to license and deliver video content over a public IP connection? -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
