Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Who uses POP? :-p 




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From: Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues 




Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change? 

thanks 
heith 


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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread heith petersen
Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old provider 
wasn’t able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works both ways. On the 
iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the other settings that get skewed

thanks
heith

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

Who uses POP?  :-p




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From: Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change?

thanks
heith



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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

a whole he$$ of a lot of us...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Who uses POP?  :-p




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  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change?

  thanks
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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

my problem with imap that i've seen is all the packrats in the world never ever 
want to delete their email.
so then they have gigabytes of mail on the server dating back to 2004

  - Original Message - 
  From: heith petersen 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old provider 
wasn’t able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works both ways. On the 
iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the other settings that get skewed

  thanks
  heith

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
  To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

  Who uses POP?  :-p




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  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change?

  thanks
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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Quota them to a gig.

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On Jan 13, 2014 11:52 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:


 my problem with imap that i've seen is all the packrats in the world never
 ever want to delete their email.
 so then they have gigabytes of mail on the server dating back to 2004


 - Original Message -
 *From:* heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 9:59 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

  Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old
 provider wasn’t able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works both ways.
 On the iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the other settings that
 get skewed

 thanks
 heith

  *From:* Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
 *To:* Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com ; WISPA General 
 Listwireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

  Who uses POP?  :-p



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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] IPhone email issues

  Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over
 the last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3
 weeks I have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users
 having email issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through
 the settings, account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing
 security had been changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would
 never, usually, be changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these
 happened during a mail conversion we were doing right before. No calls on
 droids. Anyways, if this is true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to
 tell the phone not to change?

 thanks
 heith



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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Storage is cheap. 




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- Original Message -

From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 10:52:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues 

 

my problem with imap that i've seen is all the packrats in the world never ever 
want to delete their email. 
so then they have gigabytes of mail on the server dating back to 2004 



- Original Message - 
From: heith petersen 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues 




Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old provider 
wasn’t able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works both ways. On the 
iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the other settings that get skewed 

thanks 
heith 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM 
To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues 


Who uses POP? :-p 




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- Original Message -

From: Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues 




Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change? 

thanks 
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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

2014-01-13 Thread Fred Goldstein

On 1/13/2014 11:52 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
my problem with imap that i've seen is all the packrats in the world 
never ever want to delete their email.

so then they have gigabytes of mail on the server dating back to 2004


I have gigabytes of mail on my own computers dating back farther than that.

Which is precisely why I don't use IMAP.  IMAP and POP are both just 
protocols.  But the clients that implement them tend to enforce 
different expectations of how they are to be used.  I'm using 
Thunderbird, which is pretty popular.  (I used to use Eudora, but its 
IMAP was not good enough to consider; that program enhanced POP to its 
limits.)  For POP, it simply assumes that you're downloading the mail to 
your client, keeping it there, and deleting it pretty soon from the POP 
server.  The server, then, is one simple holder for new mail, and it 
doesn't need to store much -- a few weeks' worth, if that's what you set 
the delete-after time to.  It's well suited for ISPs.


But Thunderbird, like some other clients, assumes that IMAP is only used 
when the server is the final permanent storage place for mail, and you 
thus can't delete it from the server without deleting your local copy, 
which is just a cached, sync'd copy.  The server has folders, and mail 
is manipulated there via IMAP.  This is how some corporate mail systems 
do work, where everyone at their desk at the company building is on the 
LAN, and thus IT manages everyone's mail carefully.  But it's not how an 
ISP would probably want to work!  It drastically raises storage 
requirements.


Of course it is theoretically possible for a client to use IMAP as a 
smarter POP, adding some useful capabilities (which Eudora had) that 
standard POP omits.  But often they just assume that if you use IMAP, 
your mail is on a corporate server, period.  Bad design.


A smartphone typically doesn't have much storage so it might be better 
off using IMAP to peek into the current server-based mail that a 
wireline-based client program might then pull down using POP.  You 
usually don't archive mail on a smartphone.  So a smartphone app might 
make better use of IMAP then Thunderbird does, and IMAP could be the 
better choice of protocol. But it's not a clear cut answer.  It looks as 
if the Verizon Android Mail app has its own server which goes in between 
the phone and the actual mail server.  So the Android link to Yahoo mail 
drops every so often even though their POP server works and their own 
app probably does too.



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*From:* heith petersen mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 9:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old
provider wasn't able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works
both ways. On the iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the
other settings that get skewed
thanks
heith
*From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
*Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
*To:* Heith Petersen mailto:he...@mn-wireless.com ; WISPA
General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues
Who uses POP?  :-p



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*From: *Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
*Subject: *[WISPA] IPhone email issues

Just curious if others have been having the same issues with
IPhone over the last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the
past, but for the last 3 weeks I have been getting calls, I think
due to a recent update, of users having email issues with their
Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, account
types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never,
usually, be changed by the users. It doesn't help that these
happened during a mail conversion we were doing right before. No
calls on droids. Anyways, if this is true due to a IPhone update,
is there a way to tell the phone not to change?
thanks
heith

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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
I'll ask and get back to you. My gf has tried them all 'cause that's what she 
does for fun...

Chuck

On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

 any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?
 
 I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no 
 apparent reason.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
 
 Jerry,
 
 Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
 the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
 top of it.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
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 --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 
 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.
 
 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
 
 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.
 
 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.
 
 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.
 
 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Okay, the answer I got was:

blackra1n works in a flash and you don't even need to restore your stuff

http://www.blackra1n.org/

She discussed several others but that's her clear preference.

Chuck


On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

 any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?
 
 I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no 
 apparent reason.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
 
 Jerry,
 
 Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
 the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
 top of it.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 
 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.
 
 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
 
 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.
 
 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.
 
 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.
 
 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-15 Thread Jerry Richardson
any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?

I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no 
apparent reason.





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Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

Jerry,

Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
top of it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-15 Thread Josh Luthman
http://www.quickpwn.com/

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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?

 I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no
 apparent reason.





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 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Jerry,

 Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
 the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
 top of it.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
  how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 
  Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
  ipaddress works like a charm.
 
  John Buwa
  Michiana Wireless,Inc
  574-233-7170
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
 
  I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
  ssh
  app for the iPhone.
  I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
  something
  like because I don't have an iPhone.
 
  But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
  app.
 
  I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
  $7.99
  for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
  don't
  mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
  well.
 
  Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
  operations would be appreciated.
 
  LaRoy McCann
  Data Technology
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Bailey
BIG surprise!!!notice near the bottom of the page..windows 7 sells 90 million 
copies already!!!get used to the extra clicks to get to things!!btw, I run a 
Blackberry,no use for iphone...just use logmein or your fav vpn and a 
laptop.Life is easy!!


--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 1:09 AM


http://www.quickpwn.com/

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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that counts.”
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?

 I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no
 apparent reason.





 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Jerry,

 Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
 the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
 top of it.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
  how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 
  Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
  ipaddress works like a charm.
 
  John Buwa
  Michiana Wireless,Inc
  574-233-7170
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
 
  I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
  ssh
  app for the iPhone.
  I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
  something
  like because I don't have an iPhone.
 
  But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
  app.
 
  I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
  $7.99
  for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
  don't
  mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
  well.
 
  Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
  operations would be appreciated.
 
  LaRoy McCann
  Data Technology
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I just got an HTC Hero running Droid 1.6.  I'm liking it so far.  We'll see 
how good (or bad) the radio is in it.  I'm often on the very fringes of 
coverage.

It's been a bit of a pita to figure out how to use it though.  Like how can 
I take out their silly sig line in the emails that I send???

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Cameron Crum cc...@dot11net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app


I have the droid and love it. You can turn off the tactile response in
 the settings. I've got far more useful networking apps on the droid than
 my friends with Iphones and the best part is that I'm NOT on ATT!

 Cameron

 On 3/12/2010 12:40 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf 
 has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just 
 because she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually 
 mattered. I haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to 
 do without jail breaking.

 I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a 
 annoying as hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback 
 vibration every time I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can be 
 turned off-I haven't taken the time to delve too much into the options 
 yet). I'll keep using it for a few more days but so far it doesn't 
 compare, even though Verizon's 3G coverage IS a little but broader out 
 this way (but, it's not as much broader as I'd thought it was supposed to 
 be).

 However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the 
 Droid. Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for 
 me) the iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure 
 YMMV.

 Chuck

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote:


 Justin Wilson wrote:

 The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is 
 being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the 
 store.

 Justin


 I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect
 the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
 But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the 
 internet.

 I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could
 find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a
 wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just
 connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)

 So I dont't think I really need tethering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf has 
her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just because she 
can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually mattered. I haven't 
had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to do without jail breaking.

I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a annoying as 
hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback vibration every time 
I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can be turned off-I haven't taken 
the time to delve too much into the options yet). I'll keep using it for a few 
more days but so far it doesn't compare, even though Verizon's 3G coverage IS a 
little but broader out this way (but, it's not as much broader as I'd thought 
it was supposed to be).

However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the Droid. 
Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for me) the 
iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure YMMV.

Chuck

On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote:

 Justin Wilson wrote:
The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store.
 
Justin
 
 I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect 
 the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
 But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the internet.
 
 I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could 
 find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a 
 wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just 
 connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)
 
 So I dont't think I really need tethering.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Other than being able to put paid apps on a jailbroken iPhone, my
favorite app is Backgrounder. It comes in handy soo much. If you don't
know what it does, you hold the home button when you're in an app and it
puts the app in the background so it will keep running. To actually
quite the app you go into it again, hold the home button and it will
close the proc. You can tell an app is running in the background because
it will have a little black circle on the icon. Very useful app. Also
iStat to free up memory occasionally. I dig the tethering when I'm out
and about.

Dylan

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My
gf has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just
because she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually
mattered. I haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to
do without jail breaking.

I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a
annoying as hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback
vibration every time I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can
be turned off-I haven't taken the time to delve too much into the
options yet). I'll keep using it for a few more days but so far it
doesn't compare, even though Verizon's 3G coverage IS a little but
broader out this way (but, it's not as much broader as I'd thought it
was supposed to be).

However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the
Droid. Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for
me) the iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure
YMMV.

Chuck

On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote:

 Justin Wilson wrote:
The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is
being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the
store.
 
Justin
 
 I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could
connect 
 the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
 But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the
internet.
 
 I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could

 find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get
a 
 wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could
just 
 connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)
 
 So I dont't think I really need tethering.
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an  
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Heck, I tethered my Nextel 6 years ago!  I'm really disappointed my current 
phone won't tether as my last did.  I sure hope my next one can...  3G\4G 
HTC Android based.


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From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:40 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf 
 has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just because 
 she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually mattered. I 
 haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to do without 
 jail breaking.

 I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a 
 annoying as hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback 
 vibration every time I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can be 
 turned off-I haven't taken the time to delve too much into the options 
 yet). I'll keep using it for a few more days but so far it doesn't 
 compare, even though Verizon's 3G coverage IS a little but broader out 
 this way (but, it's not as much broader as I'd thought it was supposed to 
 be).

 However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the 
 Droid. Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for 
 me) the iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure 
 YMMV.

 Chuck

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote:

 Justin Wilson wrote:
The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is 
 being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the 
 store.

Justin

 I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect
 the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
 But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the 
 internet.

 I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could
 find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a
 wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just
 connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)

 So I dont't think I really need tethering.




 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Jerry,

Yes you need to jailbreak.  Jailbreaking basically gives you access to
the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on
top of it.

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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Chuck Profito
I have found that using the app Mocha VNC, is much easier than using the
others I have tried. just VNC back to your computer and or server and you
have ALL your tools.  But if the back haul is dead, net book / lap top time.
But I do find I very seldom pull them out.

Chuck

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf
has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just because
she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually mattered. I
haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to do without jail
breaking.

I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a annoying
as hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback vibration every
time I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can be turned off-I
haven't taken the time to delve too much into the options yet). I'll keep
using it for a few more days but so far it doesn't compare, even though
Verizon's 3G coverage IS a little but broader out this way (but, it's not as
much broader as I'd thought it was supposed to be).

However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the
Droid. Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for me)
the iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure YMMV.

Chuck

On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote:

 Justin Wilson wrote:
The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the
store.
 
Justin
 
 I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect 
 the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
 But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the
internet.
 
 I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could 
 find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a 
 wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just 
 connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)
 
 So I dont't think I really need tethering.
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Sales
Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh  
ipaddress works like a charm.

John Buwa
Michiana Wireless,Inc
574-233-7170
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need  
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh  
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that  
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I  
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as  
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

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 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I use touchterm. It does the needfull. :)

ryan



On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need  
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh  
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that  
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I  
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as  
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott

Ima gonna tell stevie jobs on you! :)

ryan


On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an  
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Data Technology
I thought I would wait a couple of days before I jailbreak this thing.


Sales wrote:
 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh  
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

   
 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need  
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh  
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that  
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I  
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as  
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some time ago 
and there may be better programs out there now.


At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
app for the iPhone.
I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
like because I don't have an iPhone.

But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.

I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that $7.99
for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as well.

Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
operations would be appreciated.

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Data Technology



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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
that phone until it's jailbroken.

I can't stand the phone and even I know that.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org wrote:
 I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some time 
 ago and there may be better programs out there now.


 At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
app for the iPhone.
I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
like because I don't have an iPhone.

But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.

I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that $7.99
for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as well.

Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
operations would be appreciated.

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Data Technology



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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
My routers pro but it doesn't do much. There are definitely better  
ones out there.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Josh Luthman  
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
 that phone until it's jailbroken.

 I can't stand the phone and even I know that.

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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 continue that counts.”
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 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst  
 m...@iridescent.org wrote:
 I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it  
 some time ago and there may be better programs out there now.


 At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an  
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need  
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh  
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that  
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I  
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client  
 as well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Sales
Lol no!

John Buwa
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Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:01 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:


 Ima gonna tell stevie jobs on you! :)

 ryan


 On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:

 Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh
 ipaddress works like a charm.

 John Buwa
 Michiana Wireless,Inc
 574-233-7170
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:

 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an
 ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need
 something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.

 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh
 app.

 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that
 $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I
 don't
 mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.

 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.

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 Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Justin Wilson
The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store.

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Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:14:45 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
that phone until it's jailbroken.

I can't stand the phone and even I know that.

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org
wrote:
 I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some time ago
and there may be better programs out there now.


 At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
app for the iPhone.
I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
like because I don't have an iPhone.

But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.

I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that $7.99
for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as well.

Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
operations would be appreciated.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Videos?
Multitasking?
Ssh server?

On 3/11/10, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote:
 The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store.

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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:14:45 -0500
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
 that phone until it's jailbroken.

 I can't stand the phone and even I know that.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.²
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org
 wrote:
 I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some time
 ago
 and there may be better programs out there now.


 At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
app for the iPhone.
I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
like because I don't have an iPhone.

But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.

I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it.  I know that $7.99
for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
mind spending the money.  This also appears to have a vnc client as well.

Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
operations would be appreciated.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Justin Wilson
I really have no desire to run SSH server on a phone.  Sounds cool, but
not ran across a practical purpose for it.

Have an APP that does video quite well.

Multitasking might be nice.

The thing you run into is you have to keep the OS at the same level
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:41:34 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

Videos?
Multitasking?
Ssh server?

On 3/11/10, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote:
 The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store.

 Justin
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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:14:45 -0500
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
 that phone until it's jailbroken.

 I can't stand the phone and even I know that.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.²
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org
 wrote:
 I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some time
 ago
 and there may be better programs out there now.


 At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
app for the iPhone.
I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
like because I don't have an iPhone.

But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.

I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it. ?I know that $7.99
for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
mind spending the money. ?This also appears to have a vnc client as well.

Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
operations would be appreciated.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Phil Curnutt
Joe's Network Utility.

Phil

2010/3/11 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

I really have no desire to run SSH server on a phone.  Sounds cool, but
 not ran across a practical purpose for it.

Have an APP that does video quite well.

Multitasking might be nice.

The thing you run into is you have to keep the OS at the same level
 until the new OS is broken.
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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:41:34 -0500
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

 Videos?
 Multitasking?
 Ssh server?

 On 3/11/10, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote:
  The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is
 being
  able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the
 store.
 
  Justin
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  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:14:45 -0500
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
 
  Do yourself a favor, just jailbreak it now. You're wasting time with
  that phone until it's jailbroken.
 
  I can't stand the phone and even I know that.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
  continue that counts.²
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org
  wrote:
  I use pterm for SSH access to my Cisco routers. I purchased it some
 time
  ago
  and there may be better programs out there now.
 
 
  At 3:54 PM -0600 3/11/10, Data Technology wrote:
 I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh
 app for the iPhone.
 I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something
 like because I don't have an iPhone.
 
 But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app.
 
 I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it. ?I know that $7.99
 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't
 mind spending the money. ?This also appears to have a vnc client as
 well.
 
 Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP
 operations would be appreciated.
 
 LaRoy McCann
 Data Technology
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-11 Thread Data Technology
Justin Wilson wrote:
 The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being
 able to tether it.   Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store.

 Justin
   
I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect 
the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with.
But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the internet.

I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could 
find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a 
wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just 
connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;)

So I dont't think I really need tethering.





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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Mike Hammett

The HTC Mogul sure has more and better features, though.


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- Original Message - 
From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] iPhone


Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool.  Sure makes my Sprint HTC 
Mogul

look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison!  lol

I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception.  Just can't
bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone.  sigh

Best,


Brad



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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
that.

It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
pretty well.

It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
and a very nice, easy to use interface.

The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
concerned about its missing features.
Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?


You can listen to your music


Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
palmtop WindowCe style phones.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] iPhone



Hi,

About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to
play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted
to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT
service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to
use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not
with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything
working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!

This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is
actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures,
check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is
so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone
compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a
great job for a first generation phone.

Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

Travis
Microserv



 



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RE: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I have a Treo 700W for work and I got an iPhone day one they came out. I have 
to say I do not like using my Treo anymore and I use my iPhone for as much as 
possible. It does miss some important buisness apps like Active Sync to 
Exchange and the ability to open MS Office app documents but that is all but a 
software update away.
 
Travis, no you will not be able to update to 1.1.1 but update to 1.0.2 and go 
to http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ and install the Apple iphone installer. It 
really unlocks the potential of the phone! You get a package manager type app 
that allows you to add sources and get all kinds of new apps, themes, sounds. 
Install the BSD subsystem and you can SSH into your iPhone, use terminal to SSH 
to whatever.
 
It's really the coolest thing around. I don't see any other phone manufacturer 
coming anywhere close to the iPhone for years. No, the iPhone doesn't have it 
allyet...but it has so much more and does it so much better then any other 
device.
 
Just my 2 cents.   :)
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tue 10/2/2007 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone



I would not mind trying one,  but GSM is not an option around here :(

Ryan

Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to play
 with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted to play
 to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT service in our
 area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to use Edge Wireless
 (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not with iPhone
 support). After several hours, I got everything working... and I have to
 say I am keeping the phone!

 This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is actually
 usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, check your
 email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is so easy to
 use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone compared with
 everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a great job for a first
 generation phone.

 Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

 Travis
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Travis Johnson




Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone
on ebay... including shipping.

And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

Travis
Microserv

Jeromie Reeves wrote:

  Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
iClones? I am thinking I would rather get  4 of the clones for the
same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
wifi


On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool.  Sure makes my Sprint HTC Mogul
look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison!  lol

I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception.  Just can't
bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone.  sigh

Best,


Brad



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
that.

It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
pretty well.

It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
and a very nice, easy to use interface.

The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


  I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
concerned about its missing features.
Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?

  
  
You can listen to your music

  
  Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
palmtop WindowCe style phones.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "WISPA General List"
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] iPhone


  
  
Hi,

About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to
play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted
to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT
service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to "hack" it to
use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not
with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything
working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!

This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is
actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures,
check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is
so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone
compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a
great job for a first generation phone.

Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

Travis
Microserv


  





  

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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I was thinking with the release price of near $800. Still $200/each is
easier to eat when I need that many and as often (I am horribly hard
on phones). That is what I was saying, if the clones had wifi I would
have bought one already (let alone the 5 I would like have).

On 10/3/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone on
 ebay... including shipping.

  And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

  Travis
  Microserv

  Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
 iClones? I am thinking I would rather get 4 of the clones for the
 same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
 out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
 wifi


 On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool. Sure makes my Sprint HTC Mogul
 look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison! lol

 I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception. Just can't
 bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone. sigh

 Best,


 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

 Tom,

 It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
 anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
 we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
 that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
 before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
 and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
 their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
 is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
 month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

 The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
 usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
 systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
 that.

 It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
 It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
 rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

 Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
 the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

 The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
 good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
 pretty well.

 It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
 and a very nice, easy to use interface.

 The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
 everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
 techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
 small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
 keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Tom DeReggi wrote:


  I'm interested in more feedback.

 Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
 I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
 concerned about its missing features.
 Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?



  You can listen to your music

  Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
 How is the battery life?
 And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
 Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

 Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

 We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
 But how is the keypad?

 I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
 palmtop WindowCe style phones.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] iPhone




  Hi,

 About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to
 play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted
 to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT
 service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to
 use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not
 with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything
 working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!

 This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is
 actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures,
 check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is
 so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone
 compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a
 great job

RE: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Brandon Brownlee
www.Openmoko.com

That's the phone I'm holding my breath for. If it garners enough attention
from the GNU dev community it will be HUGE. Not to mention all the existing
apps that should work on it straight outta the box.

Have too much time on your hands?
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html


I've heard a lot of good things about Nokia's iPhone killer as well, but
it is really expensive at something like $800 for the unlocked version.

Brandon


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

I was thinking with the release price of near $800. Still $200/each is
easier to eat when I need that many and as often (I am horribly hard
on phones). That is what I was saying, if the clones had wifi I would
have bought one already (let alone the 5 I would like have).

On 10/3/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone
on
 ebay... including shipping.

  And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

  Travis
  Microserv

  Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
 iClones? I am thinking I would rather get 4 of the clones for the
 same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
 out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
 wifi


 On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool. Sure makes my Sprint HTC
Mogul
 look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison! lol

 I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception. Just can't
 bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone. sigh

 Best,


 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

 Tom,

 It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
 anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
 we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
 that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
 before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
 and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
 their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
 is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
 month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

 The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
 usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
 systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
 that.

 It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
 It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
 rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

 Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
 the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

 The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
 good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
 pretty well.

 It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
 and a very nice, easy to use interface.

 The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
 everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
 techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
 small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
 keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Tom DeReggi wrote:


  I'm interested in more feedback.

 Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
 I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
 concerned about its missing features.
 Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?



  You can listen to your music

  Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
 How is the battery life?
 And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
 Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

 Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

 We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
 But how is the keypad?

 I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
 palmtop WindowCe style phones.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] iPhone




  Hi,

 About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to
 play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone

Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Travis Johnson




Very cool... but still not an iPhone... no iPod style music, no WiFi.
And, no pricing yet. :(

Travis
Microserv

Brandon Brownlee wrote:

  www.Openmoko.com

That's the phone I'm holding my breath for. If it garners enough attention
from the GNU dev community it will be HUGE. Not to mention all the existing
apps that should work on it straight outta the box.

Have too much time on your hands?
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html


I've heard a lot of good things about Nokia's "iPhone killer" as well, but
it is really expensive at something like $800 for the unlocked version.

Brandon


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

I was thinking with the release price of near $800. Still $200/each is
easier to eat when I need that many and as often (I am horribly hard
on phones). That is what I was saying, if the clones had wifi I would
have bought one already (let alone the 5 I would like have).

On 10/3/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone

  
  on
  
  
ebay... including shipping.

 And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
iClones? I am thinking I would rather get 4 of the clones for the
same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
wifi


On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool. Sure makes my Sprint HTC

  
  Mogul
  
  
look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison! lol

I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception. Just can't
bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone. sigh

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
that.

It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
pretty well.

It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
and a very nice, easy to use interface.

The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


 I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
concerned about its missing features.
Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?



 You can listen to your music

 Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
palmtop WindowCe style phones.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "WISPA General List"
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: 

Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have one of these phones, and as excited as I was about it, it is 
pretty disappointing.   Very ALPHA.   I was unable to get it to actually 
work after several hours of trying to get the software loaded and 
configured. 

I am going to put some more time into it, but it sounds like the second 
version is supposed to be much better.   If this one had wifi, I would 
have put a lot more effort into it.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


Brandon Brownlee wrote:

www.Openmoko.com

That's the phone I'm holding my breath for. If it garners enough attention
from the GNU dev community it will be HUGE. Not to mention all the existing
apps that should work on it straight outta the box.

Have too much time on your hands?
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html


I've heard a lot of good things about Nokia's iPhone killer as well, but
it is really expensive at something like $800 for the unlocked version.

Brandon


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

I was thinking with the release price of near $800. Still $200/each is
easier to eat when I need that many and as often (I am horribly hard
on phones). That is what I was saying, if the clones had wifi I would
have bought one already (let alone the 5 I would like have).

On 10/3/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

 Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone


on
  

ebay... including shipping.

 And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
iClones? I am thinking I would rather get 4 of the clones for the
same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
wifi


On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool. Sure makes my Sprint HTC


Mogul
  

look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison! lol

I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception. Just can't
bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone. sigh

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
that.

It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
pretty well.

It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
and a very nice, easy to use interface.

The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


 I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
concerned about its missing features.
Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?



 You can listen to your music

 Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
palmtop WindowCe style phones.

Tom

RE: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-03 Thread Brandon Brownlee
I'm hoping the consumer version carries WiFi and a camera at least at 2mp.
They definitely go out of their way to let you know it's a dev version
still. They also state the demand for the dev phones at $300 has run them
out of phones, but then they may have only made 2 phones to begin with :) .
And just think, you can 'hack' the device all day and not have to worry
about a firmware upgrade mysteriously bricking the phone.

I'm not an early adopter of tech, though, unless it's just the bee's knees.
Cell phones have yet to cause that kind of reaction in me. I mean, I have a
Treo 650 that still has default ring tones and no apps. Best intentions.

Is it built well, Matt?

Brandon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

I have one of these phones, and as excited as I was about it, it is 
pretty disappointing.   Very ALPHA.   I was unable to get it to actually 
work after several hours of trying to get the software loaded and 
configured. 

I am going to put some more time into it, but it sounds like the second 
version is supposed to be much better.   If this one had wifi, I would 
have put a lot more effort into it.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


Brandon Brownlee wrote:
 www.Openmoko.com

 That's the phone I'm holding my breath for. If it garners enough attention
 from the GNU dev community it will be HUGE. Not to mention all the
existing
 apps that should work on it straight outta the box.

 Have too much time on your hands?
 http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html


 I've heard a lot of good things about Nokia's iPhone killer as well, but
 it is really expensive at something like $800 for the unlocked version.

 Brandon


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

 I was thinking with the release price of near $800. Still $200/each is
 easier to eat when I need that many and as often (I am horribly hard
 on phones). That is what I was saying, if the clones had wifi I would
 have bought one already (let alone the 5 I would like have).

 On 10/3/07, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Pick up 4 for the price of one? I paid $354 for a brand new, 4GB iPhone
 
 on
   
 ebay... including shipping.

  And WiFi is a huge reason to have the iPhone, if you ask me.

  Travis
  Microserv

  Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
 iClones? I am thinking I would rather get 4 of the clones for the
 same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
 out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
 wifi


 On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool. Sure makes my Sprint HTC
 
 Mogul
   
 look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison! lol

 I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception. Just can't
 bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone. sigh

 Best,


 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

 Tom,

 It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
 anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
 we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
 that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
 before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
 and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
 their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
 is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
 month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

 The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
 usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
 systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
 that.

 It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
 It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
 rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

 Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
 the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

 The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
 good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
 pretty well.

 It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
 and a very nice, easy to use interface.

 The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
 everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop

Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Ryan Langseth

I would not mind trying one,  but GSM is not an option around here :(

Ryan

Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,

About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to play 
with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted to play 
to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT service in our 
area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to use Edge Wireless 
(a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not with iPhone 
support). After several hours, I got everything working... and I have to 
say I am keeping the phone!


This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is actually 
usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, check your 
email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is so easy to 
use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone compared with 
everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a great job for a first 
generation phone.


Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

Travis
Microserv
 



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RE: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
I read somewhere that you don't want to perform the latest Update from
Apple with a hacked IPhone.  Something about the update can break the
hacked phones.  Of course Apple says the update has no intention of doing
so...yah right!

Quick search came up with this:

http://www.daniusoft.com/news/iphone-update-thwarts-hacks.html



Best,


Brad



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

I would not mind trying one,  but GSM is not an option around here :(

Ryan

Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to play 
 with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted to play 
 to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT service in our 
 area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to use Edge Wireless 
 (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not with iPhone 
 support). After several hours, I got everything working... and I have to 
 say I am keeping the phone!
 
 This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is actually 
 usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, check your 
 email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is so easy to 
 use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone compared with 
 everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a great job for a first 
 generation phone.
 
 Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)
 
 Travis
 Microserv


 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Tom DeReggi

I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was concerned 
about its missing features.

Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?


You can listen to your music


Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative 
palmtop WindowCe style phones.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] iPhone



Hi,

About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to play 
with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted to play to 
see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT service in our area, 
so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to use Edge Wireless (a 
subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not with iPhone support). 
After several hours, I got everything working... and I have to say I am 
keeping the phone!


This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is actually 
usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, check your email, 
etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is so easy to use and 
very responsive. It really is quite the phone compared with everything 
else I have looked at. Apple has done a great job for a first generation 
phone.


Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

Travis
Microserv


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Travis Johnson

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than 
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how 
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so 
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone 
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button 
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on 
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone 
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per 
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.


The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by 
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert 
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for 
that.


It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome. 
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's 
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.


Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all 
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.


The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty 
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work 
pretty well.


It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works) 
and a very nice, easy to use interface.


The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has 
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a 
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's 
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and 
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.


Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I'm interested in more feedback.

Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was 
concerned about its missing features.

Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?


You can listen to your music


Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
How is the battery life?
And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
But how is the keypad?

I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative 
palmtop WindowCe style phones.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] iPhone



Hi,

About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to 
play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted 
to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT 
service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to 
use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not 
with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything 
working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!


This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is 
actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, 
check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is 
so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone 
compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a 
great job for a first generation phone.


Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

Travis
Microserv
 



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RE: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Brad Belton
Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool.  Sure makes my Sprint HTC Mogul
look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison!  lol

I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception.  Just can't
bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone.  sigh

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

Tom,

It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than 
anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how 
we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so 
that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone 
before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button 
and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on 
their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone 
is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per 
month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by 
usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert 
systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for 
that.

It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome. 
It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's 
rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all 
the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty 
good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work 
pretty well.

It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works) 
and a very nice, easy to use interface.

The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has 
everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a 
techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's 
small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and 
keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:
 I'm interested in more feedback.

 Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
 I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was 
 concerned about its missing features.
 Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?

 You can listen to your music

 Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
 How is the battery life?
 And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
 Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?

 Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?

 We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
 But how is the keypad?

 I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative 
 palmtop WindowCe style phones.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List 
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] iPhone


 Hi,

 About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to 
 play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted 
 to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT 
 service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to 
 use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not 
 with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything 
 working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!

 This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is 
 actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures, 
 check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is 
 so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone 
 compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a 
 great job for a first generation phone.

 Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)

 Travis
 Microserv


 


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Re: [WISPA] iPhone

2007-10-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Has anyone picked up a Cect P168, Cect 599, or any of the other
iClones? I am thinking I would rather get  4 of the clones for the
same price as 1 iPhone (and not be locked into ATT whom does not work
out here). So far the only missing feature I want on the clones is
wifi


On 10/2/07, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have to agree the iPhone is just plain cool.  Sure makes my Sprint HTC Mogul
 look like a clunky, dumpy brick by comparison!  lol

 I've been a Sprint wireless subscriber since their inception.  Just can't
 bring myself to jump ship...even for the iPhone.  sigh

 Best,


 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone

 Tom,

 It's just plain cool. I had a Palm Treo 650 before. We use SMS more than
 anything else... it's how we talk to our techs and installers, it's how
 we get alerts, it's how I talk to my family (wife and kids), etc. so
 that part was very critical for me... and the Treo was the only phone
 before that made it very easy to send and receive messages... one button
 and you were into the most recent list of SMS talkers, one click on
 their name and you had the full conversation since it began. The iPhone
 is the same way. I send and receive about 1500-2000 text messages per
 month on my phone, so that was #1 priority.

 The next issue was having a web browser that was actually usable... by
 usable I mean something that you would WANT to use to check news, alert
 systems, etc. while sitting at lunch, etc. It works very, very well for
 that.

 It has a built in camera that is better than the Treo, but not awesome.
 It's a camera built in to a phone, what do you expect? I think it's
 rated at 2MP. No current GPS support.

 Battery life so far is very impressive (considering WiFi is left on all
 the time). I am getting about 2 full days of use per charge.

 The keyboard is a little strange to get used to, but then it's pretty
 good. It does auto correction on the mis-typed words, and seems to work
 pretty well.

 It's also a full-blown iPod... same connector (so everything iPod works)
 and a very nice, easy to use interface.

 The idea, as Steve Jobs mentioned, is that I now have 1 device that has
 everything I need all in one. Is it a laptop replacement? No. Is it a
 techie's dream phone for hacking, SSH, etc... probably not. But it's
 small and thin enough that it fits in my front pocket on my Levi's, and
 keeps me 100% connected to my network and the Net.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Tom DeReggi wrote:
  I'm interested in more feedback.
 
  Cool for you as the CEO? or cool as a future phone for your techs?
  I was considering getting one, for the awesome screen, but was
  concerned about its missing features.
  Am I correct that it will not support GPS or Camera?
 
  You can listen to your music
 
  Do you really want to be doing that, wasting your battery life?
  How is the battery life?
  And not hearing the phone ring, because of it?
  Or does the ringer overide the music, to enable hearing it?
 
  Can you load an SSH client on it, like Putty?
 
  We know the full screen is clearly a winner.
  But how is the keypad?
 
  I really like the large keys on the slideout keyboards, on alternative
  palmtop WindowCe style phones.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
  wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] iPhone
 
 
  Hi,
 
  About a week ago I decided to buy an iPhone off ebay (brand new) to
  play with... I wasn't planning on keeping it as my phone, but wanted
  to play to see what all the hype was about. We don't have ATT
  service in our area, so once the phone arrived I had to hack it to
  use Edge Wireless (a subsidiary of ATT/Cingular in our area, but not
  with iPhone support). After several hours, I got everything
  working... and I have to say I am keeping the phone!
 
  This is the coolest phone I have ever seen. The web browser is
  actually usable. You can listen to your music, look at pictures,
  check your email, etc. all on a beautiful touch screen. Everything is
  so easy to use and very responsive. It really is quite the phone
  compared with everything else I have looked at. Apple has done a
  great job for a first generation phone.
 
  Just wanted to share my $.02 worth. :)
 
  Travis
  Microserv
 
 
 
 
 
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  at ISPCON **
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  http