Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
+1 on ferrits. 



On Feb 28, 2012, at 22:23, Joe Fiero joe1...@optonline.net wrote:

 Tim,
 
 I have had 100% success by using a good quality shielded cable and following
 a strict bonding regiment.  Bonding the antenna, radio, mast and cable to
 the tower at the top is imperative, as is the same process at the bottom.
 It's also important that the tower be bonded and that the bond is common
 with that in the equipment room. Make sure the inside end of the cable is
 bonded as well. In other words, there should be no difference in potential
 between the ground in the equipment room, the tower or your equipment on the
 tower.  You must carry that bonding through to the rack and equipment you
 place in the room as well.  Also, be sure to use grounded cable on jumpers.
 And the real trick is putting ferrite beads on both ends of the POE cable.
 
 I had a site exhibiting between 50 and 70 percent packet loss between the
 topside radio and the router in the room when initially installed.  The
 installer never noticed there were two FM stations on the tower ( 55Kw and
 30Kw ).  We even swapped radio equipment twice because he insisted there
 were no transmitters in close proximity.  Once we discovered the FM
 stations he did as I described above and we went immediately to 0% packet
 loss from the router.
 
 Joe
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tim Warnock
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:15 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and
 high power FM transmitters.
 
 We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
 of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
 Once its happy we never have an issue again.
 
 We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively
 solve the issue.
 
 Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 Tim
 
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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
I always liked situational troubleshooting ones because I use a subnet 
calculator :P



On Feb 28, 2012, at 23:37, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:

 Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if you're 
 hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech 
 support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like:
 
 What is a subnet mask?
 If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask?
 If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and broadcast 
 IP? Name one usable IP in this range.
 
 Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break 
 out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but lets 
 you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not good or 
 bad just useful info.
 
 The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful, lets 
 you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could probably 
 expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected user has 4 
 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start troubleshooting?)
 
 I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to subnet 
 but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for solving 
 problems.
 
 I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what 
 protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see the 
 status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important if 
 you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case (what 
 does cost do in an OSPF, for example.)
 
 How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet 
 interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they 
 know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how and 
 they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out my 
 tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is the 
 difference between single and multimode fiber..
 
 Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with on 
 a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I couldn't, 
 I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type questions are 
 by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize a bunch of data 
 but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just lay out 10 problems 
 you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and write them down from 
 simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first 2-3, you're probably 
 done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on private IP, why can't 
 external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like computer X is plugged into a 
 switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 255.255.255.128, why can't he 
 ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128?
 
 Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite Android 
 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose and not too 
 stressed out.
 
 I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot of 
 the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out someone's 
 technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out if they are 
 going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months.
 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
 
 I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with
 those questions to weed out the first set!
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:
  I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably
  languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I
  worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do
  you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they
  kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge.
 
  The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the
  garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat,
  Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU,
  Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because
  they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on
  as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux
  capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of
  cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never
  made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word.
 
  So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and
  make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said
  below was the gist of it, it was a 

Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

2012-02-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Yeah, and that's the thing I don't like about very specific questions 
because, honestly, who cares if you do as long as you understand the 
concept. If I'd say to someone 'what's the subnet mask for a /25' or 
something like that and they answered 'I don't remember off the top of 
my head but I can figure it out in 2 minutes if you give me some paper 
or a subnet calculator' I'd check it off as 'passed' - same deal with 
things like the Cisco questions if they answered 'Umm, I'd do show ip 
ospf then tab a couple of times until I found the right command, I don't 
remember exactly'


Troubleshooting questions are the gold ones, I don't remember off the 
top of my head all the syntax of how to build an access list to control 
prefix advertisement through BGP on a Cisco but I could tell you what 
you need to do to do it and I think that is way more important in a hire 
- do they know concepts and can they figure stuff out.


On 2/29/2012 5:54 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I always liked situational troubleshooting ones because I use a subnet 
calculator :P




On Feb 28, 2012, at 23:37, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com 
mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote:


Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if 
you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level 
tech support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like:


What is a subnet mask?
If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask?
If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and 
broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range.


Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people 
break out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they 
know how but lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do 
it regularly. Not good or bad just useful info.


The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found 
useful, lets you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You 
could probably expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, 
connected user has 4 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you 
start troubleshooting?)


I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how 
to subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical 
brain for solving problems.


I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what 
protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you 
see the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so 
important if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general 
questions in that case (what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.)


How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an 
Ethernet interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus 
points if they know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more 
about if they know how and they can tell you.. double bonus if they 
end with 'and then I get out my tester and make sure the cable is 
good before I plug it in').. what is the difference between single 
and multimode fiber..


Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal 
with on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. 
If I couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the 
scenario type questions are by far the best. Someone who has done 
their A+ might memorize a bunch of data but they can't always put it 
into practice. So, I'd just lay out 10 problems you've had to solve 
or try to brainstorm a few and write them down from simplest to 
hardest. If they can't answer the first 2-3, you're probably done. 
The NAT one was a good opener (web server on private IP, why can't 
external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like computer X is 
plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 
255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128?


Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite 
Android 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them 
loose and not too stressed out.


I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end 
a lot of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure 
out someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is 
figuring out if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months.



*From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

*Sent*: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with
those questions to weed out the first set!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com 
mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote:

 I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, 

Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

2012-02-29 Thread Josh Luthman
With the power of Google and those skills I totally agree as well.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 29, 2012 9:34 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:

  Yeah, and that's the thing I don't like about very specific questions
 because, honestly, who cares if you do as long as you understand the
 concept. If I'd say to someone 'what's the subnet mask for a /25' or
 something like that and they answered 'I don't remember off the top of my
 head but I can figure it out in 2 minutes if you give me some paper or a
 subnet calculator' I'd check it off as 'passed' - same deal with things
 like the Cisco questions if they answered 'Umm, I'd do show ip ospf then
 tab a couple of times until I found the right command, I don't remember
 exactly'

 Troubleshooting questions are the gold ones, I don't remember off the top
 of my head all the syntax of how to build an access list to control prefix
 advertisement through BGP on a Cisco but I could tell you what you need to
 do to do it and I think that is way more important in a hire - do they know
 concepts and can they figure stuff out.

 On 2/29/2012 5:54 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

 I always liked situational troubleshooting ones because I use a subnet
 calculator :P



 On Feb 28, 2012, at 23:37, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:

  Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if
 you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech
 support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like:

 What is a subnet mask?
 If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask?
 If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and
 broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range.

 Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break
 out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but
 lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not
 good or bad just useful info.

 The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful,
 lets you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could
 probably expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected
 user has 4 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start
 troubleshooting?)

 I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to
 subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for
 solving problems.

 I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what
 protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see
 the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important
 if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case
 (what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.)

 How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet
 interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they
 know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how
 and they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out
 my tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is
 the difference between single and multimode fiber..

 Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with
 on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I
 couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type
 questions are by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize
 a bunch of data but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just
 lay out 10 problems you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and
 write them down from simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first
 2-3, you're probably done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on
 private IP, why can't external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like
 computer X is plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask
 255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128?

 Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite
 Android 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose
 and not too stressed out.

 I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot
 of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out
 someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out
 if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months.

  --
 *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent*: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

 I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with
 those questions to weed out the first set!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, 

Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
This problem is a bitch.  We're on a station that's only 20k watts and 
Ethernet issues are severe.

We finally had pretty good luck by moving the radios down and running high 
grade coax to the antennas.  We also run metal shielded cat5 with the proper 
ends.

Finally I installed ferrite beads on both ends of all cat 5 runs.

Things are running pretty well now.  Turns out that cat5 and fm radio are 
basically in the same frequency area.

My best advice?  Go find a different tower to use :-).

But it can be done.  All electronics in a metal enclosure also.  Jumper cat5 
also needs to be shielded cable with grounded connectors.  Sometimes I put 
ferrite beads on them as well.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Warnock tim...@timoid.org
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters


 Hi All,

 I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links 
 and
 high power FM transmitters.

 We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
 of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
 Once its happy we never have an issue again.

 We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to 
 definitively
 solve the issue.

 Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
 appreciated.

 Thanks
 Tim

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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

2012-02-29 Thread Marco Coelho
Netgear routers seem to provide the most stable connection in our
experience.  Always make sure the firmware is up to date.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 We use Cisco E1000 E1200 WRT54g. We also found out that WRT110 120 and 300
 320 do not pass traffic through PPPoE no matter what you do. We’re also
 using a Microsoft network if that question was to come up.

 ** **

 I’ve also found out that Belkin’s are horrible for staying connected and
 Netgears by default are dial on demand instead of Keep Alive.

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Phil Curnutt
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

 ** **

 We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
 having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting.
  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on
 your wireless network?

 ** **

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Justin Wilson
The biggest thing I stress with any FM tower is to get an experienced FM
tower climber crew to give your their opinion on the tower before
installing any equipment on it.  Too many times I have seen an FM tower
with poor grounds, missing grounds, improperly installed hardline, etc.
Many times I have found it to be the tower more than your equipment.
Some of my guys were on a small FM station with a 2k transmitter.  The
tower had 1 small ground, and was missing the bonding to the tower. The
tower is named sparky due to the RF charging the whole tower.  No amount
of work on the cat-5 could have ever fixed this.

Justin

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
We are on a toewer near an AM tower I named Sparky because of the RF burns I 
got terminating the cat5. 
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Indigo Wireless
1 (570) 723-7312

Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

   The biggest thing I stress with any FM tower is to get an experienced FM
tower climber crew to give your their opinion on the tower before
installing any equipment on it.  Too many times I have seen an FM tower
with poor grounds, missing grounds, improperly installed hardline, etc.
Many times I have found it to be the tower more than your equipment.
Some of my guys were on a small FM station with a 2k transmitter.  The
tower had 1 small ground, and was missing the bonding to the tower. The
tower is named sparky due to the RF charging the whole tower.  No amount
of work on the cat-5 could have ever fixed this.

   Justin

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Ben West
Might anyone have a recommendation for a cheap supplier of ferrite beads
large enough to fit thick STP, e.g. like Ubiquiti tough cable?

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
Something I've heard talked about in ham/engineering circles is don't have 
cable runs that are near a half wavelength or multiple half wavelengths of the 
frequency that's giving you trouble. It's a last ditch effort but it might be 
worth thinking about. Ferrites are great. When you put them along the cable 
again avoid half wave length intervals. You want to do everything to discourage 
the cable from resonating at the interfering frequency.

Greg
On Feb 29, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:

 This problem is a bitch.  We're on a station that's only 20k watts and 
 Ethernet issues are severe.
 
 We finally had pretty good luck by moving the radios down and running high 
 grade coax to the antennas.  We also run metal shielded cat5 with the proper 
 ends.
 
 Finally I installed ferrite beads on both ends of all cat 5 runs.
 
 Things are running pretty well now.  Turns out that cat5 and fm radio are 
 basically in the same frequency area.
 
 My best advice?  Go find a different tower to use :-).
 
 But it can be done.  All electronics in a metal enclosure also.  Jumper cat5 
 also needs to be shielded cable with grounded connectors.  Sometimes I put 
 ferrite beads on them as well.
 
 marlon
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Warnock tim...@timoid.org
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:15 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links 
 and
 high power FM transmitters.
 
 We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead
 of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with.
 Once its happy we never have an issue again.
 
 We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to 
 definitively
 solve the issue.
 
 Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 Tim
 
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I know this fits Mohawk direct burial cable but it didn't solve my
ethernet problems on an FM tower.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMukHu%252bjC5l7Yer6NHO3r2EH2hq2kvibEAY%3D

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:
 Might anyone have a recommendation for a cheap supplier of ferrite beads
 large enough to fit thick STP, e.g. like Ubiquiti tough cable?

 --
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 http://gowasabi.net
 b...@gowasabi.net


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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 2/29/2012 02:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
We are on a toewer near an AM tower I named Sparky because of the RF 
burns I got terminating the cat5. --

An AM tower is supposed to be hot, since the tower is the antenna. An 
FM or TV tower is supposed to be a grounded support structure for the 
actual antenna.  I'd never put stuff on an AM tower.  Nor would most 
such towers want stuff on them, since it could throw their performance off.


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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Larry Weidig
www.mouser.comhttp://www.mouser.com and search for EMI clamp.  They have a 
lot of options available.


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Excel.Net, Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ben West
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

Might anyone have a recommendation for a cheap supplier of ferrite beads large 
enough to fit thick STP, e.g. like Ubiquiti tough cable?

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Monoprice has them, don't know exactly how cheap compared to others they are
though:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102cp_id=10240cs
_id=1024011 cp_id=10240cs_id=1024011

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric Tykwinski

TrueNet, Inc.

P: 610-429-8300

F: 610-429-3222

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ben West
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

 

Might anyone have a recommendation for a cheap supplier of ferrite beads
large enough to fit thick STP, e.g. like Ubiquiti tough cable?

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http://gowasabi.net
b...@gowasabi.net

 

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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yes.. I'd never mount to an AM tower but we were next to one on an FM tower.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 2/29/12 2:58 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
 At 2/29/2012 02:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 We are on a toewer near an AM tower I named Sparky because of the RF
 burns I got terminating the cat5. --

 An AM tower is supposed to be hot, since the tower is the antenna. An
 FM or TV tower is supposed to be a grounded support structure for the
 actual antenna.  I'd never put stuff on an AM tower.  Nor would most
 such towers want stuff on them, since it could throw their performance off.


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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

2012-02-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Dexter Magnetics  847-956-1140

0431164181

Those are big enough to wrap the cat5 through 3 times.

marlon

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  Might anyone have a recommendation for a cheap supplier of ferrite beads 
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  http://gowasabi.net
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Re: [WISPA] transparent caching solution w/TPROXY

2012-02-29 Thread Matt
 I'll check out those other caching solutions. I was going through the
 ryohnosuke.com website, it's in Spanish (Via google translate). The main
 company referred me to him to coordinate since he speaks English.

 To get it setup in the Mikrotik it took a couple of mangle prerouting
 rules and a route with a routing mark. It actually just routes the
 traffic to the cache instead of redirect, this keeps the transparency
 working nicely. If I disable the mangle rules then nothing goes through
 the cache.

In Mikrotik I imagine you just use mangle to add routing marks to port
80 traffic then add routes based on those marks.  Do websites accessed
see the IP of the cache or IP of the user behind the cache?

Can you munge your mangle and routing rules and post them?
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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel White
It still has exceedingly bad latency just like any other satellite service,
but the capacity figures are true (at least until those spot beams become
more saturated)


Also watch out for the bandwidth caps, and contract terms.  I'm not sure I
would use Skype or Vonage on a service like that.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:28 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

 

Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download
speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a
$149.95 setup fee.

Any Comments?

NGL

 




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Re: [WISPA] Excede (viasat-1) Satalitte Internet

2012-02-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
I'm not familiar with them but that service has got to have bandwidth caps like 
DirecWay. Also it's hard to believe that Skype and Vonage would work well 
because they must be over-sold (high contention ratio) at that price.

Greg
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:

 Anyone run into Excede (viasat-1)  Satalitte Internet? They claim download 
 speeds of 12 Megs and can use Skype and Vonage for $60.00 per month and a 
 $149.95 setup fee.
 Any Comments?
 NGL
  
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