Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking
We have just rolled out Aeroscout RFID solution. I would be more than happy to discuss further details. One word of caution, your WLAN density will determine your accuracy in locating devices. Kevin Johnson, CCNA Network Engineer Cisco Wireless Specialist Health First NST 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955 Phone 321-434-5557 Cell 321-403-2542 Donald Roller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/11/2008 5:05 PM We are interested in purchasing a WiFi based RFID equipment location and tracking system in the hospital component of our university and would be interested in feedback from anyone who has experience with such an installation. We are an academic medical center with a 350 bed hospital plus four colleges. We have recently deployed a Cisco LWAPP based wireless network with a Cisco 2710 location engine and designed our 2.4 GHz RF coverage with location services in mind. Every wireless device in the hospital building can be seen by at least three access points. Our goal is to be able to locate and track medical equipment (IV Pumps, beds, wheelchairs, portable monitors, etc.) and create an interface into our equipment maintenance tracking system. Any experience with this type of system would be welcome. Thanks, Don Roller - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Donald R. Roller Manager - IMT Network Services State Univ. of NY, Upstate Medical University 750 East Adams Street Jacobsen Hall 1006 Syracuse, NY 13210 315.464.5827 # This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain private, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. # ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking
Kevin, Were you able to deploy Listening Only Monitor Mode APs? If you had a standard data deployment of APs, how many more APs did you have to add as a percentage? Thanks Kevin, Bruce Johnson Network Engineer Partners Healthcare 617-726-9662 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Kevin Johnson Sent: Thu 6/12/2008 7:00 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking We have just rolled out Aeroscout RFID solution. I would be more than happy to discuss further details. One word of caution, your WLAN density will determine your accuracy in locating devices. Kevin Johnson, CCNA Network Engineer Cisco Wireless Specialist Health First NST 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955 Phone 321-434-5557 Cell 321-403-2542 Donald Roller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/11/2008 5:05 PM We are interested in purchasing a WiFi based RFID equipment location and tracking system in the hospital component of our university and would be interested in feedback from anyone who has experience with such an installation. We are an academic medical center with a 350 bed hospital plus four colleges. We have recently deployed a Cisco LWAPP based wireless network with a Cisco 2710 location engine and designed our 2.4 GHz RF coverage with location services in mind. Every wireless device in the hospital building can be seen by at least three access points. Our goal is to be able to locate and track medical equipment (IV Pumps, beds, wheelchairs, portable monitors, etc.) and create an interface into our equipment maintenance tracking system. Any experience with this type of system would be welcome. Thanks, Don Roller - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Donald R. Roller Manager - IMT Network Services State Univ. of NY, Upstate Medical University 750 East Adams Street Jacobsen Hall 1006 Syracuse, NY 13210 315.464.5827 # This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain private, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. # ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. The information transmitted in this electronic communication is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this information in error, please contact the Compliance HelpLine at 800-856-1983 and properly dispose of this information. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking
One word of caution on Cisco's location appliance- depending on what version of code you are running, I can see it being very easy for hospital assets to exceed the number of devices that can be tracked by a single server. This is one to work with the SE/TAC on. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Roller Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking We are interested in purchasing a WiFi based RFID equipment location and tracking system in the hospital component of our university and would be interested in feedback from anyone who has experience with such an installation. We are an academic medical center with a 350 bed hospital plus four colleges. We have recently deployed a Cisco LWAPP based wireless network with a Cisco 2710 location engine and designed our 2.4 GHz RF coverage with location services in mind. Every wireless device in the hospital building can be seen by at least three access points. Our goal is to be able to locate and track medical equipment (IV Pumps, beds, wheelchairs, portable monitors, etc.) and create an interface into our equipment maintenance tracking system. Any experience with this type of system would be welcome. Thanks, Don Roller - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Donald R. Roller Manager - IMT Network Services State Univ. of NY, Upstate Medical University 750 East Adams Street Jacobsen Hall 1006 Syracuse, NY 13210 315.464.5827 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Charging for Wireless Access
Has anyone implemented a charge-back system for wired and/or wireless connectivity akin to what some airports/hotels do? At the University at Albany, we are investigating what is involved, how credit card information needs to be handled (PCI compliance), etc. As a side note, we are using Cisco's WCS and lightweight access points. I'd appreciate any information you are willing to share. Thanks. Don Gallerie Asst Dir, Telecommunications The University at Albany ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
5 GHz 11n USB Adapters
Hi all, Does anyone else have any experience with any USB 5 GHz (dual-band) 802.11n adapters? I have two here, the Linksys WUSB600N and the Netgear WNDA3100, and neither are impressing me. They both have almost no configurable options, in terms of setting the adapter to only use a particular band or prefer a band. I'd also like to avoid using their client software and letting Windows configure everything if possible. We need to recommend something for our bookstore to sell, as we still have students bringing in desktops that need to get on our wireless. I really want to get 5 GHz adapters to avoid the mess of interference in the dorms. Any help is greatly appreciated! Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Location Tracking
Donald, If you've just deployed the 2710 you may want to discuss trading it back to Cisco for the new MSE (Mobility Services Engine). The MSE has several different add-on software options including the new Context-aware feature. The MSE with the context-aware module is a super-set of the 2710 location appliance. Additionally, it can track up to 18,000 devices (client/tag) where the 2710 is much more limited. Once you have the MSE, something like AeroScout Mobile View can use the MSE data to track systems. We're about to begin deployment of a new wireless network with MSE and plan to use it for tracking/location of assets including our AV carts, cameras, etc. Additionally, for our classrooms, we'll be tagging LCD projectors so we know when they decide to go on a walkabout. best, Jeff Jeffrey D Sessler Interim Director Information Technology Scripps College Donald Roller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/08 2:16 PM We are interested in purchasing a WiFi based RFID equipment location and tracking system in the hospital component of our university and would be interested in feedback from anyone who has experience with such an installation. We are an academic medical center with a 350 bed hospital plus four colleges. We have recently deployed a Cisco LWAPP based wireless network with a Cisco 2710 location engine and designed our 2.4 GHz RF coverage with location services in mind. Every wireless device in the hospital building can be seen by at least three access points. Our goal is to be able to locate and track medical equipment (IV Pumps, beds, wheelchairs, portable monitors, etc.) and create an interface into our equipment maintenance tracking system. Any experience with this type of system would be welcome. Thanks, Don Roller - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Donald R. Roller Manager - IMT Network Services State Univ. of NY, Upstate Medical University 750 East Adams Street Jacobsen Hall 1006 Syracuse, NY 13210 315.464.5827 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client
Here's a weird one- wondering if anyone else may have experienced the same using LWAPP, WiSMs, 802.1x, and Cisco ACS. RADIUS Accounting log sample: Client Calling ID Framed IP Address Controller 6/10/2008 10:43:03 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.85.69 29 10.21.0.21 6/10/2008 10:43:10 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.193.201 29 10.21.0.21 6/10/2008 10:43:17 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.106.64 29 10.21.0.43 6/10/2008 10:43:24 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.45.246 29 10.21.0.41 6/10/2008 10:43:31 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.195.59 29 10.21.0.23 6/10/2008 10:43:38 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.149.78 29 10.21.0.29 Single user, multiple RADIUS starts reported, seven seconds apart. User IP (client calling ID) not matching Framed IP Address- and controllers that have APs that can't possibly be within client earshot all claiming to forward the RADIUS logging... If you look at the end column, it shows what controller is sending the RADIUS start. In this case, 6 different controllers are sending a start. In the framed IP address column, there is no real-world indication that those addresses are being used in any shape or form- and many of them are on a different network than the user address in the Client Calling ID space. Sorta feels like corrupt data being reported. We are seeing this frequently enough to be noteworthy- but clients are sailing through the authentication process with absolutely no trouble or signs of behind-the scenes weirdness. Have opened a TAC case- but thought I'd float this to the group. (I can't tie this to any of the 150+ open caveats on the WiSMs). Thanks- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client
Interesting that you bring this up. I saw a similar thing a couple of weeks ago and I have not had a chance to track it down. We are using Aruba , Cisco Secure ACS, WPA/TKIP. I saw this when I was tracking down an issue with an Apple MAC but saw it with other devices as well. ACS version is 4.1 Steve Holland ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client
That being said, we are ACS 3.3.3 for comparison. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Holland Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:27 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Interesting that you bring this up. I saw a similar thing a couple of weeks ago and I have not had a chance to track it down. We are using Aruba , Cisco Secure ACS, WPA/TKIP. I saw this when I was tracking down an issue with an Apple MAC but saw it with other devices as well. ACS version is 4.1 Steve Holland ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client
Lee, Just to let you know, we are running version 4.1 and have seen the same thing. I'd be interested to hear what TAC has to say. Hector Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Here's a weird one- wondering if anyone else may have experienced the same using LWAPP, WiSMs, 802.1x, and Cisco ACS. RADIUS Accounting log sample: Client Calling ID Framed IP Address Controller 6/10/2008 10:43:03 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.85.69 29 10.21.0.21 6/10/2008 10:43:10 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.193.201 29 10.21.0.21 6/10/2008 10:43:17 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.106.64 29 10.21.0.43 6/10/2008 10:43:24 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.45.246 29 10.21.0.41 6/10/2008 10:43:31 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.195.59 29 10.21.0.23 6/10/2008 10:43:38 User1 Default Group 128.230.190.150 Start 484e92f6/00:17:f2:ef:21:a8/480066 128.230.149.78 29 10.21.0.29 Single user, multiple RADIUS starts reported, seven seconds apart. User IP (client calling ID) not matching Framed IP Address- and controllers that have APs that can't possibly be within client earshot all claiming to forward the RADIUS logging... If you look at the end column, it shows what controller is sending the RADIUS start. In this case, 6 different controllers are sending a start. In the framed IP address column, there is no real-world indication that those addresses are being used in any shape or form- and many of them are on a different network than the user address in the Client Calling ID space. Sorta feels like corrupt data being reported. We are seeing this frequently enough to be noteworthy- but clients are sailing through the authentication process with absolutely no trouble or signs of behind-the scenes weirdness. Have opened a TAC case- but thought I'd float this to the group. (I can't tie this to any of the 150+ open caveats on the WiSMs). Thanks- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
