RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference

[Tim Tyler]

I agree with this sentiment.  2.4 is a long-run losing battle.  We deployed
5 ghz nearly everywhere to minimize the need for 2.4.  I observe that
2/3rds of all devices automatically use 5 ghz.  So it really isn’t as big
of a problem as it could be.  I expect that number to improve each year.  I
have made attempts to educate students through RA’s, but I am not sure I
will do that each year.  Students really shouldn’t bring in their own
router, but it’s too time consuming to stop it.  I think because we provide
such wide spread access and try to make sure we support everything, this
problem really isn’t as bad as it might be.  Educating students does help,
but I am careful not to spend too much time worrying about it.

  I do still need to improve high density areas.

  Tim



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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about
interference



You are fighting a battle that will never be won, and even a stale-mate is
unlikely.



IMHO, your best bet is to work toward abandoning 2.4. In the early days, we
did try outreach and education, but there are just too many devices today
that use 2.4, and in many cases, users don’t even know it e.g. Apple’s
Airdrop. You can minimize some of this by solving the reasons behind some
of the interference sources i.e. install more WAPs to improve the service,
reducing the rogue problem. Install residential printers to mitigate the
need for student printers.



Most of our residential is now designed around dense 5 GHz, and while 2.4
is available, it’s mostly ignored.



Jeff



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*Date: *Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM
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*Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference



Hi Fellow Wireless Wizards!



This is my first post to the group, so please be gentle.



Here at the University of Lethbridge we are about to embark on a bit of an
education drive for all of our wireless users with regards to the 2.4GHz
spectrum and their impact on it. Does anybody have good examples of
notices, posters etc. that they would be willing to share, that reference
the evils of rogues and other interference sources citing the negative
impact they have on the wireless network. Like everyone else on this list
we are seeing huge influxes of our friends the wireless printer, Bluetooth
devices and the like…



if only we could just turn 2.4GHz off.



Thanks



Sean





*Sean Gray* | B.Sc (Hons)

Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst

ITS, University of Lethbridge





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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference

[Jeffrey D. Sessler]

You are fighting a battle that will never be won, and even a stale-mate is 
unlikely.

IMHO, your best bet is to work toward abandoning 2.4. In the early days, we did 
try outreach and education, but there are just too many devices today that use 
2.4, and in many cases, users don’t even know it e.g. Apple’s Airdrop. You can 
minimize some of this by solving the reasons behind some of the interference 
sources i.e. install more WAPs to improve the service, reducing the rogue 
problem. Install residential printers to mitigate the need for student printers.

Most of our residential is now designed around dense 5 GHz, and while 2.4 is 
available, it’s mostly ignored.

Jeff

From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"  
on behalf of "Gray, Sean" 
Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 

Date: Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM
To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference

Hi Fellow Wireless Wizards!

This is my first post to the group, so please be gentle.

Here at the University of Lethbridge we are about to embark on a bit of an 
education drive for all of our wireless users with regards to the 2.4GHz 
spectrum and their impact on it. Does anybody have good examples of notices, 
posters etc. that they would be willing to share, that reference the evils of 
rogues and other interference sources citing the negative impact they have on 
the wireless network. Like everyone else on this list we are seeing huge 
influxes of our friends the wireless printer, Bluetooth devices and the like…

if only we could just turn 2.4GHz off.

Thanks

Sean


Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Nyansa Conference Call Poll

[Chuck Enfield]

Good Morning,

 

The Nyansa conference call will be on Tuesday, 2/21, from 3:00om to 4:00pm
Easter Time.  The bridge number is +1 (712) 770-4700, Access Code 846605.

 

Thanks,

 

Chuck

 

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Enfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:29 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Nyansa Conference Call Poll

 

Sorry folks, but yesterday go away from me. Against all odds, I got a girl
to marry me, so I have to do something on Valentine's day to keep her
around.

 

I don't think there are a lot of days left to do this in the near future.
The remainder of this week will be short notice, and a lot of you will be
traveling for WLPC staring next Wednesday, so I'm only offering times for
next Monday and Tuesday.  Please respond to the doodle poll at the link
below by the end of the day tomorrow, 2/16.  The most widely accepted time
slot will win.  The bridge details appear on the poll page, but I'll also
send them to the list along with the winning time slot.  The call will be
recorded, so anybody who can't make it live can listen to it later.

 

Thanks,

 

Chuck

 

http://doodle.com/poll/6dvnufgaqb4q9yuy

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