RE: Ekahau Update
Thanks so much for this. Regards Phill Phill Solomon Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering) Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Ian Lyons Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2021 3:50 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update Good Day Everyone! Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last Friday. We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18! Thank you for coming! The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min or so. Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau representatives. Both started ~2 years ago Then we segued into how people used the product: Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of engineering were the common threads. Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence that it was initially concurrent users' vs 1:1. Further the "teeth" that made sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3. Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare indicated that there isn't a 1 size fits all. Pro's and Con's: Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users. Others stated that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's. Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed: On the one hand it makes it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring people to come into contact to hand it off. The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a time. Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access. Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit our needs (those on the call). We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 weeks' time to review Stephen's work on our behalf. Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help get you access to the tool again. steve.lit...@ekahau.com<mailto:steve.lit...@ekahau.com> stewart.goum...@ekahau.com<mailto:stewart.goum...@ekahau.com> Link to the Meeting Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group Password: EducauseWifi Recording link: https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e *Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties together. I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself. Cheers Ian J Lyons Network Architect - Rollins College 401.413.1661 Cell 407.628.6396 Desk ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
RE: Ekahau Licensing Chat
Very interested in the outcome too - it will be 4am here so I wont be there. Phill Solomon Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering) Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Ian Lyons Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2021 2:30 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing Chat Absolutely. We/I can do that. Cheers Ian J Lyons Network Architect - Rollins College 401.413.1661 Cell 407.628.6396 Desk From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Gray, Sean mailto:sean.gr...@uleth.ca>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:28 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing Chat * External Email * I would be interested to attend, but am unable to. So for those that can't be there, will there be any kind of general feedback? Thanks Sean From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Ian Lyons Sent: July 27, 2021 3:11 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing Chat Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phish...@uleth.ca<mailto:phish...@uleth.ca>. https://rollins.webex.com/meet/ilyons<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frollins.webex.com%2Fmeet%2Filyons=04%7C01%7Cilyons%40ROLLINS.EDU%7C975b92e0dd5e45cc13ae08d951e4c0cf%7Cb8e8d71a947d41dd81dd8401dcc51007%7C0%7C0%7C637630865199156418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=JTMGMgISuGDvJFpZpJCGfbGPdo%2Bl4pJrrKi4q6UEjr8%3D=0> Good Day Everyone! A few weeks ago, there was an exchange of information regarding the new licensing at Ekahau. The sentiment was not missed by a neutral third party who knows someone at Ekahau. This person reached out to Eric and me, inquiring about a meeting that could be put together for those impacted by Ekahau licensing. Eric and I agreed and decided we could host a meeting for this purpose. No one is selling anything. The purposed of this meeting, Friday August 6th at 2pEST, is for the WiFi list serve to have a space to talk to an SVP of Sales at Ekahau and respectfully explain how the new licensing is impacting those that use their product. Please mark your calendars for August 6th @ 2p EST and the webex is : https://rollins.webex.com/meet/ilyons<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frollins.webex.com%2Fmeet%2Filyons=04%7C01%7Cilyons%40ROLLINS.EDU%7C975b92e0dd5e45cc13ae08d951e4c0cf%7Cb8e8d71a947d41dd81dd8401dcc51007%7C0%7C0%7C637630865199156418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=JTMGMgISuGDvJFpZpJCGfbGPdo%2Bl4pJrrKi4q6UEjr8%3D=0> [https://rollins.webex.com/mw3300/mywebex/html/img/webexball_opengraph_new.png]<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frollins.webex.com%2Fmeet%2Filyons=04%7C01%7Cilyons%40ROLLINS.EDU%7C975b92e0dd5e45cc13ae08d951e4c0cf%7Cb8e8d71a947d41dd81dd8401dcc51007%7C0%7C0%7C637630865199166377%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=aM%2FKVEYSwOMug0BdZr5uUcMQAQsnS645bKMp56LafQ8%3D=0> Meet virtually with Cisco Webex. Anytime, anywhere, on any device.<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frollins.webex.com%2Fmeet%2Filyons=04%7C01%7Cilyons%40ROLLINS.EDU%7C975b92e0dd5e45cc13ae08d951e4c0cf%7Cb8e8d71a947d41dd81dd8401dcc51007%7C0%7C0%7C637630865199166377%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=aM%2FKVEYSwOMug0BdZr5uUcMQAQsnS645bKMp56LafQ8%3D=0> Simple, modern video meetings for everyone on the world's most popular and trusted collaboration platform. rollins.webex.com Cheers Ian J Lyons and Eric Kenny - Educause WiFi LAN Leaders ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity=04%7C01%7Cilyons%40ROLLINS.EDU%7C975b92e0dd5e45cc13ae08d951e4c0cf%
RE: Ekahau Licensing & Alternatives
Hi TJ, I am glad this not just us - we don't use the software / sidekick often and usually outsource new surveys. We are being asked to purchase / renew with Connect - I can see why we would need it if we only do rare survey. I would however like the ability to read the survey files that we get commissioned - I hear that there is soon to be a 'read only version' cany anyone confirm this? Any alternate products? Thanks.. Phill Solomon Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering) Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 12:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing & Alternatives We have 2 Ekahau licenses tied to Sidekicks. We use a team cloud account for uploading projects, with the understanding that using the software requires the Sidekick to be attached to the machine. Ekahau has notified us that this is not compliant with their licensing terms and we need to purchase a license for each user or transfer the license each time a user needs the software. The first option is too costly for how much we survey. The second option is cumbersome and not what we want to deal with each time someone is out and another engineer needs to survey. So, we are looking at alternative software for doing our surveying. We only survey a couple of buildings a year but have experience on our team to reduce costs of using outside services. If you are doing in-house surveying, what software are you using? How does their licensing model work for your team? What are the strengths and weaknesses of the software you use? Thank you ahead of time for any responses. TJ McClintic ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
RE: [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless Label Printers
Mac Randomization? Phill Solomon Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering) Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Street, Chad A Sent: Friday, 4 June 2021 5:29 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless Label Printers We are seeing very interesting things with telemetry systems using the same OID as zebra printers. re: ÿ If you are seeing similar -- chad.str...@emory.edu<mailto:chad.str...@emory.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Curtis K. Larsen mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 3:23 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless Label Printers We're seeing some interesting behaviors with these on Cisco infrastructure. If you have them and you run Cisco I'd love to show you some debugs and pcaps and compare notes. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Wireless Network Engineer III Infrastructure Ops The University of Utah ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity=04%7C01%7Ccstree2%40EMORY.EDU%7C0043259bfdfd4115147008d926c508db%7Ce004fb9cb0a4424fbcd0322606d5df38%7C0%7C0%7C637583449982194677%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=BQeRjxM3BaRMj6I2UZ7%2BfJk0W0Id80J4xp00ajK7pZ8%3D=0> This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller
If is not to late please add me. Phill Solomon Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineer) Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Eric Jensen Sent: Friday, 13 November 2020 4:59 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller Mike, I am interested as well - would you please add me to the list? Thanks! -- -- --- Eric Jensen Senior Network Communications Specialist University of Alaska - Office of Information Technology email: epjen...@alaska.edu<mailto:eric.jen...@alaska.edu> phone: 907-450-8326 --- On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 6:10 AM Rios, Hector J mailto:hector.r...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote: May I suggest that we also consider setting up an agenda. There are significant enough changes in IOS-XE that configuration management will be very different. Some might be considering DNA Center, others might be looking to take advantage of its programmatic capabilities. For those that have PRIME there will be decisions to be made. Hector Rios, Wireless Network Architect The University of Texas at Austin | ITS From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Ricardo Stella Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:37 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller How about someone set up a new quick signup form? --- °(((=((===°°°(((=== On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Oh, Christopher mailto:c...@luc.edu>> wrote: I would also love to join the meeting. Chris Oh Network Engineer Information Technology Services Loyola University Chicago P: 773.508.6073| E: c...@luc.edu<mailto:c...@luc.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Michael Usher <010ef28e43bf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:010ef28e43bf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 2:52 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller I took a list of names a few weeks ago, but then I went dark when work got busy. My apologies for the silence. I'm reaching out to Mike Atkins to see if we can get everyone together on a single session. I envisioned more of a "panel discussion" than a formal presentation -- but I've sure got my list of "gotchas" to share, so I'm sure it will be useful. Looking forward to sharing experiences with others. Michael Usher On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:48 PM Matthew Craig mailto:matcr...@nmsu.edu>> wrote: I am intersted as well. - Matt Craig Network Engineer Information and Communication Technologies New Mexico State University On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Mike Atkins mailto:matk...@nd.edu>> wrote: WARNING: This email originated external to the NMSU email system. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. You are not late at all. I certainly am. I have 8-9 e-mails for interest. I'll send out a quick survey to collect information from those that responded. I will send it to the list again to pickup others that might be interested. On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:17 PM Michael Heflin <02002057e293-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:02002057e293-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>> wrote: Little late but would be interested in this as we are moving from 8540's to 9800's ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity=04%7C01%7Cmatcraig%40nmsu.edu%7C1bcf5d02e8e24518085a08d8868011cb%7Ca3ec87a89fb84158ba8ff11bace1ebaa%7C1%7C0%7C637407231893750848%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=g2tRbwcf41HjgIJ2susRFDCpSXtRL5ugtkSOtUhZygY%3D=0> -- Mike Atkins Infrastructure Architect Office of Information Technology University of Notre Dame ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If yo
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller
And me to the mee too list please, not sure about the time zone though (I’m in Melbourne Australia) Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au<mailto:phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Yahya Jaber Sent: Sunday, 11 October 2020 4:52 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller Me too please. Thanks. Yahya Jaber. Sr. Wireless Engineer IT Network & Communications – Engineering Building 14, Level 2, Rm 201-WS37 KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA Email yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa<mailto:yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa> Office +966 (0) 12 8081237 Mobile +966 (0) 558697555 On Call Rotation Mobile: +966 54 470 1177 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Brahim Bouchaiba Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 19:07 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller I like to be added also. Thanks. On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jesse Thomas mailto:jtho...@hamilton.edu>> wrote: Same here - we're moving from WiSM2 to 9840. Thanks, -- Jesse Thomas Network & Systems Administrator Hamilton College 315-859-4211 On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:44 AM Slone, Kelly mailto:kelly.sl...@marshall.edu>> wrote: I would also like to be included. Thank you, Kelly Slone, B.S., MCP IT Infrastructure Engineer Marshall University Information Technology Drinko Library DL 436 Office: 304-696-6109 Helpdesk: 304-696-3200 slon...@marshall.edu<mailto:slon...@marshall.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, October 9, 2020 at 10:30 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller Sounds like I might need to set up a general session. I'll catch Don and Abbas early next week, but if there's other interest, I'm happy to do a wider discussion after a bit of preparation. I'll send out an invite for signups when I'm ready next week. On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 7:27 AM Floyd, Brad mailto:bfl...@mail.smu.edu>> wrote: Mike, Per our recent conversation about this topic, yes please add me to the invite list. Thanks, Brad From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Mike Atkins Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 9:08 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller [EXTERNAL SENDER] I’ve reached out to a few schools individually on this very topic. Would the group want to do a Zoom session on this? Mike Atkins Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Notre Dame From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Sullivan, Don Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller We are in the process of upgrading our wireless from a Cisco 8510 to a Cisco 9800-80. I wanted to query those on this list who have already gone through this process about any lessons learned that would have been nice to know before transitioning your existing AP inventory that is compliant with the new hardware. I am building the configuration for the 9800 from scratch and it has been a challenge learning the new concepts for configuring this type of controller, so I was hoping to see what others have learned from the experience. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Don Sullivan Network Administrator Technology Services 205-726-2111 | office dsulli...@samford.edu<mailto:dsulli...@samford.edu> LinkedIn<http://linkedin.com/in/donaldasullivan> www.samford.edu<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.samford.edu=E,1,I2ogcaEWhyAWbSyyzh5EvDozbcmyAre1BmFhiV8jVJb4kuysGbQDi0kuk8CkMVqZwzdVsZu9mCfNX51eDp_ssxegOMX0QNi6Dg3nOVrobw0,=1> 800 Lakeshore Drive Birmingham, AL 35229<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=800+Lakeshore+Drive,+Birmingham,+AL+35229,+US> [Samford Samford University Logo] ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues
We have upgrade 2/3 WLC pairs from 8.5.151 to 8.10.103.0 – seems to be going ok with the exception of DNAC-C reporting slower / more DHCP failures – while we have received no support calls – just wondering if anyone else has seen this? Mathieu, thanks for the tip on the bug, now watching that too. thanks Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm Sent: Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:13 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues Little update, I came across this bug id: https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvu65125/?rfs=iqvred (thanks Jeff for the hint about version 8.10.139.43) So I decided to change the settings on the SSID from WPA2 + WPA3 back to WPA+WPA2 and this seems to have resolved our issues (we’re testing right now). My wife is about to deliver our 2nd daughter so I will ask my colleagues to update if possible. Regards, Mathieu Sturm Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer [https://www.hogent.be/www/assets/Image/logo2018.png] Directie Financiën, Infrastructuur en IT Afdeling Netwerkbeheer Campus Schoonmeerssen - Gebouw B Lokaal B0.75 Valentin Vaerwyckweg 1 - 9000 Gent +32 9 243 35 23 www.hogent.be<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogent.be%2F=02%7C01%7Cmathieu.sturm%40hogent.be%7C86879fbc6e8c49ab13ff08d67ac4edef%7C5cf7310e091a4bc5acd726c721d4cccd%7C1%7C0%7C636831383554731873=8NfYjNEE4XDViDT6wMtCYFa0cY8g5CXqS9kf7VtYBcU%3D=0> Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Namens Tristan Gulyas Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 7:22 Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues Hi, Watching this thread closely. We're currently on 8.5.151 but need to migrate to an 8.10 release for the 9130ax's. If anyone has any TAC cases or bug IDs that may reference this issue, that would be super useful! Tristan -- TRISTAN GULYAS Senior Network Engineer Technology Services, eSolutions Monash University 738 Blackburn Road Clayton 3168 Australia E: tristan.gul...@monash.edu<mailto:tristan.gul...@monash.edu> monash.edu<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmonash.edu%2F=02%7C01%7Cmathieu.sturm%40HOGENT.BE%7C6078e49e647e41bd416c08d86049bbde%7C5cf7310e091a4bc5acd726c721d4cccd%7C1%7C1%7C637365217102685605=6Regh9vt9RkykD0R6GjrxBMAUVcdXFI6hdBCfXGOazU%3D=0> On 24 Sep 2020, at 2:23 am, Jeffrey D. Sessler mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote: You probably want 8.10.139.43, which is fully BU supported and suggested for production. This is a link to the release notes, I’d check to see if any of these apply. Also, verify your timeouts aren’t set too low for the radius responses coming from eduroam. I ran into this at Cal Poly in Pomona, where I could not interactively login to eduroam, but I could save my credentials and it worked just fine. I suspected a timeout set too low (this was Aruba equipment however). Had an entire group there for a meeting that faced the same issues. https://www.cisco.com/web/software/280926587/153915/Release_Notes_8_10_139_43.pdf<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fweb%2Fsoftware%2F280926587%2F153915%2FRelease_Notes_8_10_139_43.pdf=02%7C01%7Cmathieu.sturm%40HOGENT.BE%7C6078e49e647e41bd416c08d86049bbde%7C5cf7310e091a4bc5acd726c721d4cccd%7C1%7C1%7C637365217102695599=lNJqE8txYPSQ%2B0e5dW8QBscMaH2K6QJXUP%2FgZi0vGRs%3D=0> Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues Hello, We updated our Cisco 5520 controllers from 8.5.151.0 to 8.10.130.0. Since the update we have issues with eduroam. Before the update the students and other users could select the ssid eduroam and fill in the credentials and they were connected. Now we have to update the NIC’s (mostly AX200) to the latest version and/or update to W10 version 2004. And even then we often have to configure the SSID manually and save credentials. We see that the users get to the ISE and are permitted but the WLC doesn’t always see this permit. Or the ISE gives a certificate warning (I’ve checked our certificates, all are valid). Is anyone experiencing the same thing? We went tot 8.10.130.0 for our new 9120’s. Mathieu Sturm Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer Directie Financiën, Infrastructuur en IT Afdeling Netwerkbeheer Campus Schoonmeerssen - Gebouw B Lokaa
RE: DNA Spaces & Wi-Fi
Hi Jamie, We are currently evaluating it, it has the potential but also comes with a cost. We would have to start with ACT. Regards Phill Kind regards, Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer, IS - AV & Networks. ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions Deakin University • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au<mailto:phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Price, Jamie G Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2020 1:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] DNA Spaces & Wi-Fi Anyone dive into DNA for Wi-Fi? Has it helped with your business challenges? Thanks in advance, Jamie Jamie Price Wireless Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Colorado Denver | Anschutz Medical Campus 1945 N Wheeling Street, MailStop F408, Aurora CO, US 80045 jamie.pr...@cuanschutz.edu<mailto:jamie.pr...@cuanschutz.edu> www.cuanschutz.edu<http://www.cuanschutz.edu/> [CU Anschutz Website]<https://www.cuanschutz.edu/> [CU Anschutz Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/CUAnschutzMed/> [CU Anschutz Instagram] <https://www.instagram.com/cuanschutz/> [CU Anschutz Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/school/university-of-colorado-anschutz-medical-campus/> [CU Anschutz Twitter] <https://twitter.com/CUAnschutz> What causes bad Wi-Fi? The plug-and-play auto-optimizations marketed by your favorite Access Point (AP) manufacturers aren’t all the same. The complexities of an increased shift in demand overnight due to a software update, latency-sensitive services like voice over Wi-Fi, and real-time location services turn a simple plug-and-play solution into a custom deployment that needs proper planning and regular maintenance. Bad Wi-Fi can be a result of insufficient coverage, but it can also be caused by a range of improper settings and external interferers that APs alone may not be able to detect. Coverage and Capacity – If your network doesn’t meet the minimum requirements for coverage and capacity, the devices on your network will not be able to perform the necessary applications. Channel Overlap – Channel overlap can wreak havoc on your network. Interferences from neighboring APs and networks will cause bad Wi-Fi. Interference – Both Wi-Fi and non Wi-Fi signals can cause interferences on your network. Wireless cameras, microphones, or even microwaves can cause a disruption on your network. https://www.ekahau.com/blog/request-for-sidekick/?utm_campaign=2020.07.GL.EM.Sidekick%20Campaign_source=email_term=Sidekick%20blog%20%26%20approval%20letter_content=2020.07.GL.EM%20Sidekick%20Campaign ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
RE: WLC 8.10.130
I have it running on the baby 3504 in the test lab, A few things, The upgrade path – we are currently on 8.5.151 in prod – the 8.10.130 release notes list do not have a direct upgrade path from 8.5.x, while the release notes from 8.10.122 does include 8.5. I asked a TAC engineer working another case and he said that it was still good. I am still curious. Yesterday I upgraded and downgraded the 3504 a few times (8.10.130 <-> 8.5.151) , on one occasion it did not come up cleanly requiring a cold reboot – which is especially hard when working from home in campus lockdown. After the cold reboot it was fine again. Tested the upgrade process from 8.5.151 with 2802, 3800, 1815x all ok. I had an issue with the IW3702 – it would not join the test controller – I don’t think this is 8.10 related – more testing required. Regards Phill Kind regards, Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer, IS - AV & Networks. ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions Deakin University • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au<mailto:phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Rios, Hector J Sent: Wednesday, 19 August 2020 1:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 8.10.130 Has anyone upgraded to WLC 8.10.130? I’m running it in the lab. No issues with the upgrade. Just wanted to see if anyone is on it and with students back. Thanks, Hector Rios, Wireless Network Architect The University of Texas at Austin ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?
Hi All, Our primary SSID is eduroam but we are always looking for ways to enhance the student experience, especially onboarding. I don’t know of anyone actually providing OpenRoaming here in Australia yet – education or otherwise. I also don’t know of any carrier / campus integration on wifi here – any LTE/4G/5G.. is on carrier equipment – one of the interesting things for me is how the handoffs will play out. Thank you all for your responses, Kind regards, Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer, IS - AV & Networks. ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions Deakin University • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au<mailto:phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2020 6:16 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? Seconded… So many other things could be said, but many of them are not very nice. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Johnston, Ryan Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 1:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? Jeff, For some of us the Starbucks equivalency statement doesn’t fit. I’m specifically in a situation where I do not want to give anyone and everyone easy access to our network. Half of our campus is situated in downtown Chicago amongst all the high-rises and tourist locations. I do not want our network used by the multitude of Chicago tourists or business neighbors that can hear my network. Our fear is that having that many unsolicited users would degrade the network quality significantly. I hope the future of network access still leaves room for those that need that control over a guest network. I would have a completely different outlook if I was located in a remote college town. Ryan -- Ryan Johnston he/him/his Associate Director of Infrastructure DePaul University 55 E Jackson Blvd | Chicago, Illinois 60604 https://www.depaul.edu<https://www.depaul.edu/> | https://helpdesk.depaul.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:46 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? I’m not trying to get out of a business, but Internet2 could eventually get out of the radius/eduroam business. Unless I’m mistaken, at the point an institution federates directly with openroaming, the need for eduroam diminishes. Obviously it’s going to take time, but if there is a push to adopt openroaming in EDU, then in say five years, does eduroam have a future? On the identity front… As we march toward a cloud-based future, and our WiFi networks transformed into simple gateways to the internet, how much information do we need/want? How much information should we collect? After all, if the service is no different than at Starbucks, what does the collection of more information do for us? Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:09 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? What business are you trying to get out of specifically? OpenRoaming is a way for federations of organizations and/or individual organizations to interconnect. Eduroam would start to mean “less” to end users, as they wouldn’t see an “eduroam” ESSID anymore, but there is still value in a trust framework for educational organizations, especially when it comes to identity. If you decide not to provision users with your university identity, you will likely have no access to that users real identity. I imagine you still want access to identity for your own users and devices? At its core, OR is simply a few extra elements in the profile that gets put on the device provisioning. OR itself, also does not provide client provisioning. You still need to do that, or pay for a service that will do it. I think, personally, that there is a major lack of understanding throughout the industry of what OR actually is. tim From: Jeffrey D. Sessler<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:56 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? Why not the other way around, and standardize on OpenRoaming, and have everything else become a m
Openroaming - anyone connected?
Hello all, One of the items on the radar for us is OpenRoaming, is there anyone connected, or looking into connecting? And if you are connected are you using it as an extension for students / staff or just for visitors.? Thanks in advance, Kind regards, Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer IS - AV & Networks ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions Planned Leave: NA [cid:image001.png@01D37676.7B6F3320] Deakin University 301 Burwood Highway, Burwood VIC 3125, Australia. • Phone: +61 3 924 46069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au<mailto:phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au> Deakin University CRICOS Provider Code 00113B Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and any attachments immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
RE: WIRELESS-LAN : Massive Cisco recall action
Our SE shared a link to do an assessment check for the field note http://serialnumbervalidation.com/70479/cgi-bin/index.cgi A quick inventory report from Prime, copied in the serial numbers – we are in the clear. Phill Solomon Senior Network Engineer Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks, ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions • Phone: +61 3 924 6069 • E-mail: phill.solo...@deakin.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Kees Pronk Sent: Monday, 20 January 2020 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN : Massive Cisco recall action https://www.crn.com.au/news/cisco-issues-massive-recall-for-87-faulty-wifi-access-point-models-536723?utm_source=desktop_medium=linkedin_campaign=share Expect massive delays... not good ~Kees From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Miller, Keith C mailto:keith.mil...@unc.edu>> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 2:38:37 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution Hi Barry, We are running 8.5.0.3, but the build that we think has provided the fix to our first issue is based on 8.5.0.5 if I remember correctly. Disabling ax or ODFMA specifically is ½ of the equation only if Intel ax NICs are in your environment. There was also an aggregation queueing issue which caused an eventual starvation of traffic for other clients that had to be corrected in code as well. Regards, Keith From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "McCurry, Barry A" mailto:barry.mccu...@vanderbilt.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, January 17, 2020 at 5:13 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution Have you turned off HE/(High Efficiency) to turn off AX? It seems some of our reported issues disappeared after disabling that. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Amel Caldwell Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 3:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution We have a small installation of 515s running 8.5.0.5 and have experienced the same behavior that Keith described. So far, mostly anecdotal data but we are starting to gather data and troubleshoot this with Aruba as well. Amel Caldwell University of Washington From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "McCurry, Barry A" mailto:barry.mccu...@vanderbilt.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, January 17, 2020 at 11:33 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution Do you mind sharing what version of code you are running currently? I think you mentioned 8.5.0.3 in the initial thread, but you mentioned the upgrade to 8.5.0.5 was recommended by Aruba. I would be curious to know if the tiger team saw these issues on 8.5.0.5, as we just upgraded to this version over the break. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:10 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution All, Since the thread generated significant interest last week, I wanted to let you know how Aruba responded. After hearing of our issues, Aruba sent a tiger team (5 or 6 folks) that came in to work on the bugs. We had a punch list of things to work on. On the top of the list was the 515 performance issues. This is where people would stay connected, but data wouldn’t flow for a period of time. The symptoms were reproduced many times during the week with everyone present. Aruba found a bug in code that does not handle queuing properly in certain circumstances. They produced code to fix this issue, but we cannot confirm at this time if this will resolve what we are seeing…. We saw a similar symptom immediately after putting the fix on
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?
University of Melbourne - Cisco 4K AP's Phill Solomon | Senior Network Engineer – Wireless SME - Technology Management - University of Melbourne T: +61 3 834 48804 M: 0407 509709 E: p.solo...@unimelb.edu.au ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: google play ACL
We are also onboarding with cloudpath – our solution was to advise users to first download the app over 4G … not very nice but the version of Cisco WLC code we run does not permit domains (only IP) to be added to the preauth ACL. Phill Phill Solomon | Network Engineer – Technology Management T: +61 3 834 48044 M: 0407 509709 E: p.solo...@unimelb.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H Sent: Monday, 1 June 2015 11:10 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL The more and more I think about this, the more I like the idea of requiring an authenticated login for the SSID (easy, since I already use pfSense), put a 10 minute limit on the authentication, and then I will DNS blackhole the top 20 things people will likely want to access through the captive portal, not related to google. Then authentication keeps guests out, and makes normal users not like the idea of using it for normal access. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 7:52 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL Here is what I appear to have. It is tricky trying to strip out access for other things, especially for DNS. IP Addresses may vary somewhat by ISP. The only good way the check Amazon App Store access is with a Kindle Fire device. Google Play: android.l.google.com ggpht.com photos-ugc.l.google.com googleusercontent.com play.google-apis.com googleapis.l.google.com Amazon App Store mst-ext.amazon.com mas-ext.amazon.com mas-sdk.amazon.com mas-ssr.amazon.com applab-sdk.amazon.com images-amazon.com ssl-images-amazon.com amzndsi-a.akamaihd.net cloudfront.net (?) There may be some CDN domains that I missed too. If in doubt, packet captures are your friend. You can do a Wireshark capture on a rooted Android device with Shark for Root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.sharkhl=en Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure Media Solutions (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) [mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:45 AM Subject: Re: google play ACL You do not need all of amazon.com. Kindle tablets need access to the Amazon App Store and they access it differently than other Android devices. We restrict by DNS ip ranges. I thought I remembered some YouTube access needed for Google Play Store too for graphics videos. I will need to post our setup later, after I gather the data. Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure Media Solutions (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Coehoorn, Joel [mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: google play ACL Wow. All of Amazon, too? I'm sitting on the outside of this process looking in, hoping to do something like this before the end of the summer, and that ACL is depressing. [Image removed by sender.] Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 jcoeho...@york.edumailto:jcoeho...@york.edu The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Turner, Ryan H rhtur...@email.unc.edumailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu wrote: Thank you, Jacob. Looks like I may have to go this route as well. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113tel:%2B1%20919%20445%200113 Office +1 919 274 7926tel:%2B1%20919%20274%207926 Mobile From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jacob Bennefield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL We have been working with Ruckus and Cloudpath on this issue as well. These are the web addresses we allow to make google play and a few other things accessible. You basically have to open up everything to google but google.comhttp://google.com 2 ocsp.digicert.comhttp://ocsp.digicert.com EditClone 3 crl3.digicert.comhttp://crl3.digicert.com EditClone 4 crl4.digicert.comhttp
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs?
We have run 2 outlets per AP for many years now - not because we were planning for wave2 but so we can connect to the AP console from the cabling rack without having to get out a ladder. Phill Phill Solomon | Network Engineer Network Engineering | University Services T: +61 3 834 48804 M: 0407 509709 E: p.solo...@unimelb.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 7:23 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs? We are in the process of re-cabling some of our CAT5 only buildings. We have decided to run two Cat6A cables for each AP. The cost of running an additional cable is negligible compared to the labor of replacing a bad cable later on. -- Christina Klam Network Engineer Institute for Advanced Study Email: ck...@ias.edu Einstein Drive Telephone: 609-734-8154 Princeton, NJ 08540 Fax: 609-951-4418 On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Kevin McCormick wrote: We have a big roll out of new .11ac APs this summer and we have decided to run one CAT6a cable to the APs for future capacity. I expect that 10G switches and APs will be common place before the next refresh. I can understand running a second wire only if you are doing a refresh and dual 2.5G was common place. Even then I would be running a CAT6a as the second cable. Kevin McCormick uTech Network Services Western Illinois University On 3/24/2015 11:58 AM, Deshong, Kenneth wrote: With the advance in Cisco's new Multigigabit technology you can use existing CAT5e\CAT6 cables and run speeds 5GB/10GB respectively over copper. No need to run multiple cables to your Access Points. I saw a presentation by Cisco where the new 3850's coming out this year will already support this technology. I'm assuming their Wave 2 Access Points will also support this and you can effectively run 5gbps over your older CAT5e cables. While I do agree, 20-40 users on an access points doesn't make it necessary to run 10GB to that access point, I would rather have it and not need it. Any Cisco shops can attest, most of the time when they roll out a new AP/Switch, the price point is usually pretty close or the same as the older model so it only makes sense to roll out the new technology. http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/enterprise-netw orks/catalyst-multigigabit-switching/multigigabit-ethernet-technology .pdf Ken DeShong Network Engineer USF Health Information Systems Desk: 813-396-9472 Fax: 813-974-5198 Amazing Things Happen When You Connect the Unconnected -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs? For now mgig doesn't seem necessary from a wireless perspective. I think new installations may justify multiple drops if you know funding for some areas comes and goes. Like a slow refresh on switch gear, but the ability to upgrade to full AC Aps. Mgig will most likely be driven from our research departments as they upgrade machines with newer NICs and expect to take advantage of it. We try to anticipate the needs and so far we see very little need for mgig on the wireless front. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Enfield Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs? I'd add to Frank's list: - Wave 2 won't increase spectral efficiency as much as initially projected. Expect 2x once most of the client radios are wave-2 11ac rather than the 4x that was being tossed around a year ago. - Most, if not all, ac client devices will be 2-stream. - There's insufficient spectrum available to leverage 80MHz channels. Even if more spectrum becomes available in the next couple years, it will be years after that before a large enough percentage of client devices support those new channels for them to be useful. Add all this up and it is likely to be at least 5 years before you achieve Gbit on the wire to 802.11ac APs, and it may never happen. If you agree with this assessment, then there's no reason to rush into proprietary multi-gig edge switching. It seems wise to wait for an IEEE standard. Chuck Enfield Manager, Wireless Systems Engineering Telecommunications Networking Services The Pennsylvania State University 110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802 ph: 814.863.8715 fx: 814.865.3988 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless issues with iOS 6.1 not automatically connecting
There was also an issue with iOS 6.1.1 and Exchange / calendar - this forced idevices to constantly hit the server - in the background constant wireless retries and battery issues. During the week Apple released 6.1.2 to address this. Phill Please excuse the brevity of this message it was sent from a mobile device. On 12/02/2013, at 17:39, Tristan Gulyas tristan.gul...@monash.edumailto:tristan.gul...@monash.edu wrote: Hi all, We've had several reports of users on iOS 6.1 equipped iPhone 4 and 4S devices being unable to automatically reconnect to our 802.1X network. The debugs on our WLC seem to show that the client is timed out following key exchange five minutes after initial association. The device does not reconnect but we can reconnect manually without issue; the problem them repeats itself. I cannot reproduce this on my iPhone 5 (also running 6.1) but can reproduce it on command with the two iPhone 4 devices in the office. Has anybody else experienced this issue? Cheers, Tristan --- Tristan Gulyas tristan.gul...@monash.edumailto:tristan.gul...@monash.edu Wireless Network Engineer M: +61 403224484 eSolutions divisionP: +61 3 9902 9092 Building 205 Monash University 3800 Australia ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones
And again this is not a new problem - we even considered in the early days having the APs in a lecture theatre on a seperate power curcuit with the switch on the lecturn - it all got too hard in the end and we didn't bother. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne. On 18/04/2009, at 2:22 AM, David Robertson drobe...@gmu.edu wrote: We had discussions when installing wireless in a new building where the professors felt that they should be able to determine when and where wireless should be turned off for their classes. We finally explained to them, that it would require them to hire a few more people to work for us to manage the wireless system to handle their requests, until then, they would have to request their students to not use their computers/phones during class. David R. Peter P Morrissey wrote: I teach courses part time and I can tell you that this is easier said than done. While it sounds good in principle, and in some cases would indeed be beneficial, the fact is that students seem to be easily distracted and have short attention spans. The result is that as soon as you give them this connection you can easily lose them the compelling distraction of the Internet. The other problem is that they think they are capable of doing it all at once, but really they aren't without something giving. Having said that, I am not a proponent of the technical solutions of somehow selectively denying access. Many have already pointed out the futility of this approach. We have even talked about having access denied at certain times based upon class schedule and user ID. But again, there are too many ways around that. I tell my students that they can have their laptops and other devices open and accessible during attendance and breaks etc, but during the lecture everything has to be shut down. I just tell them that even though I like to think I'm pretty good, I can't compete with the Internet. This becomes tougher in classes where it makes sense to use laptops to take notes and it has been debated and discussed quite a bit. Law schools seem to be one example of this. Pete Morrissey Syracuse University -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU ] On Behalf Of Chuck Keeler Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:32 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones Wouldn't it be easier (and beneficial) to get faculty to utilize technology in their classes rather than vilifying it ... or this too much to ask ... this device is the real connection to the student? __ Chuck Keeler -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU ] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:47 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones I'm going to have to go with Jethro on this one. When I was in class generally you were warned at the beginning of the semester. Following that, a call during usually resulted in either being asked to leave or being humiliated by the professor, or both. Also Neil brings up another point in a later post, what's to keep them from just jumping on a regular 3G network. I think this should be a non-technical issue. A technical response is really a waste of time. Heath Jethro R Binks wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Emerson Parker wrote: The requests I'm seeing is from teachers who don't what people on their phones in class. Why are you singling out iPhones? This sounds like yet another case of technology being asked to provide a solution to a social or political problem. And that is generally a recipe if not for disaster, then bad feeling. How about, and here's me just thinking completely off the top of my head for the first idea that comes to mind... the teacher asks people to turn their phones off? If the request is regularly ignored, then local rules with defined sanctions should be implemented and enforced. Jethro. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jethro R Binks Computing Officer, IT Services, University Of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ . -- David Robertson Manager, Network Engineering George Mason University Voice: 703-993-2443 Fax: 703-993-3505 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Detecting Stolen Laptops...
We get the same request from time to time. Our security team have also wanted us to do a feasiabilty on software to monitor locations of all devices that they could corelate data with the local police but as we don't have an SOE this won't get up. Another angle that we have implemented is that when security report a stolen laptop to us, and we can verify the mac we log a job with the details into our incident system and then use WCS to disable it accross all controllers with a description of the incident number - in the belief that if it was ever to reapear it will not work until it is reenabled. With any luck whoever is assigned the renable job will read the case log. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne On 10/12/2008, at 16:06, Hector J Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once in a while we get calls from the university police department asking us to search for stolen laptops. We use the stolen laptop’s M AC address to search in both DHCP and WCS (we are a Cisco shop). We’ ve never been successful in recovering a stolen laptop. So far the t hieves have been smart enough not to ever bring those laptops back i nto our campus. I’m curious to know if any of you have come up with a way to automate the detection of a wireless device. Something like waiting for a laptop’s MAC to come on the wireless network and imme diately sending an email to an operator. Thanks, Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ .
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WiSM
I forgot to add, we are running 600 ap's on 12 controllers. Before the start of next semester we will be adding a location appliance and another 150 ap's and a few more controllers. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne On 04/12/2008, at 18:35, Phill Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been running 5.0.148 for most of the year and have just moved to 5.1 last weekend because of the web auth bug. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne On 04/12/2008, at 15:32, Leo Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, folks. Which WiSM code are you running, 4.1.185 (we are), 4.2.173 or 4.2.130, etc, etc? we've been suffering the prolong crash bug, the response from Cisco is not promising, thanks. Leo Song, Cluster Lead - Networking and Security (519) 824-4120 x 53181 CCS, University of Guelph ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WiSM
We have been running 5.0.148 for most of the year and have just moved to 5.1 last weekend because of the web auth bug. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne On 04/12/2008, at 15:32, Leo Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, folks. Which WiSM code are you running, 4.1.185 (we are), 4.2.173 or 4.2.130, etc, etc? we've been suffering the prolong crash bug, the response from Cisco is not promising, thanks. Leo Song, Cluster Lead - Networking and Security (519) 824-4120 x 53181 CCS, University of Guelph ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client
Another interesting topic I am just starting down the same road of doing the Radius accounting analysis. Radius accounting can be done from the WLC interface or from ACS Both have the ability to send accounting data out. ACS seems to have more fields but in our setup wont record data about volumes. The data I am to make sense is from WLC 5.0.148 / ACS 4.1.4.13 Phill Solomon Ph: 83448804 University of Melbourne -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:25 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Yessir- so noted, and highlighted in TAC case notes as it's just too precise and repetitive to not have meaning. Lee -Original Message- From: Max Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:21 AM To: Lee H Badman; The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client One thing we noticed but didn't mention because we had no idea what it means or how it could be related, is that when the 5 starts come through, they are exactly 7 seconds apart, which sounds like a timeout, resend, reset kinda thing. But we couldn't see why. From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 6/13/2008 10:04 AM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Cc: Max Garcia; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Curious. To back up, this is meaningful to us not just as a curiosity, but we are using the accounting starts as a trigger to a process, and the multiple successive starts are causing a bit of noise pollution. I started reviewing the RADIUS Accounting RFP: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2866.txt Some nuggets I get from this (and would welcome someone who smarter on this to correct me)- - It seems that any service started and stopped for a client- like perhaps outer/inner auth mechanisms- should each have their own start and stop. Perhaps this explains some of the seeming duplicates? - These services have an accounting field, but all I see are two dots- like some service is generating a start or stop, but can't be identified in our ACS (if we could see named services), it might help shed light - There is the concept of multi-linked sessions, where each link has a start and eventual stop, but I have no idea if this could be relevant in this case- I just enabled the field for multi-links and will see if this starts to populate So I can start to get a very fuzzy picture of OK, maybe multiple starts and stops for the same client in RADIUS accounting might be explained. But the fact that the Framed IP Address is off on another network/VLAN and foreign controllers are being named as NAS on some of these records has me thinking that perhaps there is LWAPP voodoo afoot... (maybe). No theories back from TAC yet. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:48 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client We do run PEAP w/MS-CHAPv2. We support all supplicants. And we so see the issue on both Windows and Macs. I've checked one or two Linux users and so far they look consistent. Hector From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:16 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Hector (and Stephen) - Are you both running PEAP w/ MS-CHAP v2? And do you force the use of any one supplicant (like Windows. Or Odyssey?) And for what it's worth I'm seeing this on Windows and Mac- but not all clients. Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:47 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Lee, Just to let you know, we are running version 4.1 and have seen the same thing. I'd be interested to hear what TAC has to say. Hector Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting starts for same client Here's
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question
I am not sure if this is related but I found that after applying an WLAN / SSID change to WLAN override you have to reboot the AP. Cisco say this anyway. Phill University of Melbourne From: Hector J Rios Sent: Fri 5/2/2008 3:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question We are seeing the exact same issue. It seems as the settings are just not being saved. In the beginning we thought it might have been an issue with WCS not saving the settings on the WiSMs, but we discarded this after applying the settings directly on the WiSMs. I haven´t found anything on the release notes. Hector Louisiana State University De: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv en nombre de Lee H Badman Enviado el: jue 01/05/2008 11:18 Para: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Asunto: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question One more question on WiSMs, to check my own sanity. I'm starting to see what appears to be a trend. Where I have WLAN override selected and applied and in use for a while with no issues, it seems that randomly SSIDs are either dropping from the list of selected SSIDs and need to be reapplied, or are in the list and selected, but not actually being transmitted and require a reboot to get them to behave again. Is like config is partially lost. I have seen this around a dozen times over the last several months, not tied to any specific controller or WLAN, just feels a bit indiscriminate. Anyone else getting this condition? Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] University of Chicago Removes Wireless From Classroom
In our early days of wireless we were instructed not install in theatres because of the notion that students would spend more time doing email etc instead of passing notes around the room (I mean paying attention). The solution at the time was to put a power switch on the lectern that powered off the AP's at their whim - we have not done this for years now. Phill Solomon Ph: 83448804 University of Melbourne -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ray Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2008 7:40 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] University of Chicago Removes Wireless From Classroom On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Ringgold, Clint wrote: It became an issue of should you use technology to fix a social or (you fill in the blank) issue and it was much easier to politely ask the teacher to police their class. Perhaps it is my inherent laziness as a Unix admin, but I've always been opposed to using technology to enforce policy. I've seen problem-solving programmers write 10,000 lines of code to enforce something, when a simple Don't Do That Or We'll Beat You with a Wet Noodle!! would have been much more effective. We've heard about the elaborate systems to control wireless in a particular room, at a certain time, for a select group of students, tying into student records, network equipment, backend LDAP and db servers, and the health center. When asked if something can be done technologically, the answer is always yes. The real question is not if we can do it, but *should* we do it. Controlling the computers and the network is the easy part. Controlling the users is what makes our jobs interesting. ray -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org Systems EngineerSoutheastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?
Here in Melbourne, We have 5.0.148 getting ready to go into production but there is tension about bug CSCsm98250 (5.0 Webauth stops working under load). We have not run into this yet but we also have no load on (yet). Has any experienced this? Does the controller stop or just management? Thanks Phill Solomon Network Engineering Team - Infrastructure Information Services University of Melbourne Phone 834 48804 Fax 8344 2765[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 4:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code? Steve, I haven't seen this symptom yet - you should open a TAC case. I did see something like you describe when I changed the User Idle Timeout to a larger value (43200, or 12 hours) in an attempt to prevent premature deauthentication of systems that have not been active. Once I set it 300 back things were fine again. TAC informed me of the bug below. CSCsl51486 Bug Details Top of Form EW : Client not able to join when User idle timeout set to max value Symptom: Clients are disassociated immediately if User Idle Timeout is set to more than 65,535 seconds. Conditions: There are no specific conditions. Workaround: Avoid setting Idle Timeout to greater than 65,535 seconds. Bottom of Form 4.2 WLC Idle-Timeout values can cause clients to not associate Symptom: Depending on which idle-timeout value is configured on the controller, it can prevent clients from assoicating to the WLAN. In customer testing, the values that do not work apprear to random. Although range stil states that 90 - 10 is valid, Dmitry said 86400 is the actual maximum in 4.2. Need that verifed as well. 86400 does work as does 32768, but 32769 does not for example. Attached debugs show client passes L2 authentication and gets IP. WLC does a gratuitous ARP and then one second later show idle-timeout and disconnects the client. Client shows it is still connected and retains its IP so it also appears the AP does not send the de-auth. Conditions: Workaround: Change idle-timeout value to something that works like 86400 Further Problem Description: From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Whitson Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code? Yes. the problem started with v4.1.171.0 after about one year of stability on the dos/arp storm workaround. We use stand alone 4402. DHCP is set as required. We are only using lwaps. I looked at v5.0 as documentation that seemed to suggest resolution for most of the known bugs -then found out that release was not compatible with our 1000 series ap's. prior to install. Cisco engineering also suggested waiting to deploy that release but that was mute due to the hardware incompatibly. Only one full controller crash generating a log. The system hangs preventing authentication and existing authenticated users are impacted. Seems like a denial of service between the clients and ap's but that was supposed to be fixed after 4.1.171.0. I have tried several configuration changes and have a couple of tac requests in process with cisco. What are you experiencing ? Steve Johnson, Bruce T wrote: Hey Steve, Curious as to those high load hangs. We're running 4.2.99 on several WiSM-based controllers. What's the symptom? Do you have to reboot the controllers? Thanks, * Bruce T. Johnson Network Engineer Partners Healthcare 617-726-9662 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Whitson Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code? Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability. However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with controller software release 5.0.148.0. Must use 1130 series AP and above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code leaving many of us with a large and costly legacy system in place. I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability... -- Steve Whitson Network
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Monitor lightweight APs through NMS
Pity too it wont report to Ciscoworks. I have done some initial testing with Statseeker and icmp - I intend to import 600 aps to it in a few weeks - I will let you all know how it goes. Phill Solomon University of Melbourne From: Karl Reuss Sent: Wed 3/5/2008 10:49 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Monitor lightweight APs through NMS Hector J Rios wrote: The issue is that we want to see the APs in NMS with their names associated to an IP and a MAC address. If your NMS supports ICMP you can just have it ping the APs. That way the NMS will get basic up/down info for them. Beyond that you'll need to do as Mike suggested and have your NMS and controllers talk via SNMP. The controllers have a fairly rich MIB; I believe everything the WCS knows is obtained via SNMP from the controllers. Of course programming your NMS to obtain all of this info is essentially recreating the WCS product. It's a shame the WCS can't generate some higher level traps from the info obtains from the controllers. -Karl ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Making News In Australia - Health fears halt Wi-Fi rollout
Hi All, From the local paper http://www.theage.com.au/news/breaking/health-fears-halt-wifi-rollout/2006/02/24/1140670234956.html Phill Solomon University of Melbourne ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Faculty Wireless Computer Concerns
Hi, We had the same request when we first started deploying wireless; what we looked at was using the lectern controller that the lecturers uses to power on lights, AV projectors etc to power off the local access points within the theatre, of course there would still be leakage from outside the theatre concerned but only minimal coverage. In the end we never ended up doing the theatre at all, but it all looked possible on paper. BTW, more than likely we will be going back to cover that theatre next year without putting the extra switch in. Do students still pass notes and chat in the back rows etc these days ? Phill Solomon University of Melbourne At 06:17 AM 19/11/2003, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Does anyone have faculty who do not want students using wireless to surf the Internet and send e-mail during class and if so what best practices have been created to prevent these activities? Mike Stocke University of Washington, Bothell Director of Information Systems ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/. Phill Solomon Networks - Systems and IT Infrastructure - Information Division University of Melbourne Phone 834 48804 Fax 9347 4804[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/.
