Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We are also using the solstice pods since last year. We now have 44 units. Mostly they work great except for some issues that people report: * No way to use powerpoint presentation mode (but that might get fixed soon in a future release is what mersive told us) * Audio delay while playing movies (issue is still being investigated), currently we can’t reproduce anymore, might be related to jitter and maybe could be fixed by implementing QOS is what mersive is telling now (pods are only connected via wired network, so no wifi enable, but our clients use both wifi and wired) We are currently on hold to buy extra solstice devices until above 2 issues are fixed Anyone else experiencing this audio delay? And did you manage to get it fixed? Kind regrads, Kristof Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv namens Bryan Ward Beantwoorden - Aan: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Datum: woensdag 5 februari 2020 om 14:52 Aan: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We have probably several hundred solstice pods across our campus now. From a network perspective, they’re the only AV devices that I actually enjoy supporting (and the only ones I recommend for conference screen sharing). Their tech support is pretty great, they just answer when you call (no long menus, no hold music), and they know what they’re talking about. Their maturity has improved greatly and support for enterprise networks beats the pants off anything Apple TV can do. -- Bryan Ward Network Engineer Dartmouth College Network Services 603-646-2245 bryan.w...@dartmouth.edu<mailto:bryan.w...@dartmouth.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Heffner, Jason Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:28 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? It depends on the feature set you are looking for. Solstice is extremely easy for someone to use in conference rooms and classrooms, the calendar integration is nice, and they are easy to manage. I’m interested in seeing what they add as far as conferencing features to the device. That being said, It’s sometimes a bit much to add to our rooms and we are thinking about Crestron Air Media since we have Crestron panels already in some of those spaces. If you want more collaborative features T1V blew us away, but so did the price. Barco we found very cumbersome to use a few years ago now but they may have gotten better. I think it really depends on what needs you have for your spaces. Jason From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Jethro R Binks mailto:jethro.bi...@strath.ac.uk>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:19 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? There are folks at my site on the A/V side who are invested in the Solstice over about the past year, and they've been working closely with the company to improve its maturity level and have been given assurances of committment to improvements. So hopefully that is progressing and might make it worth a look now or in the future. Jethro. On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, Martin MacLeod-Brown wrote: We have also gone through this process, Barco, Solstice and Wolfvision. Solstice just wasn't mature enough when we looked at it. Barco, we were with them from very early on in the development cycle right through to the maturity they have now. Their software though it has some innovative features isn't that nice to use, though I know their virtual classroom software is being used very successfully in a couple of Spanish Uni's On the network side, their NRC200's are rock solid, their NRC100's not so much... Wolfvision have impressed us, rock solid on the network, and their software seems (to me) to be head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. Martin From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Badola, Sakshi Sent: 04 February 2020 14:45 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Hello Andrew, What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the tests, so I am curious. Thanks & Regards Sakshi Badola Wireless Engineer Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam ICT Services Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>&
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We have probably several hundred solstice pods across our campus now. From a network perspective, they’re the only AV devices that I actually enjoy supporting (and the only ones I recommend for conference screen sharing). Their tech support is pretty great, they just answer when you call (no long menus, no hold music), and they know what they’re talking about. Their maturity has improved greatly and support for enterprise networks beats the pants off anything Apple TV can do. -- Bryan Ward Network Engineer Dartmouth College Network Services 603-646-2245 bryan.w...@dartmouth.edu<mailto:bryan.w...@dartmouth.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Heffner, Jason Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:28 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? It depends on the feature set you are looking for. Solstice is extremely easy for someone to use in conference rooms and classrooms, the calendar integration is nice, and they are easy to manage. I’m interested in seeing what they add as far as conferencing features to the device. That being said, It’s sometimes a bit much to add to our rooms and we are thinking about Crestron Air Media since we have Crestron panels already in some of those spaces. If you want more collaborative features T1V blew us away, but so did the price. Barco we found very cumbersome to use a few years ago now but they may have gotten better. I think it really depends on what needs you have for your spaces. Jason From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Jethro R Binks mailto:jethro.bi...@strath.ac.uk>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:19 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? There are folks at my site on the A/V side who are invested in the Solstice over about the past year, and they've been working closely with the company to improve its maturity level and have been given assurances of committment to improvements. So hopefully that is progressing and might make it worth a look now or in the future. Jethro. On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, Martin MacLeod-Brown wrote: We have also gone through this process, Barco, Solstice and Wolfvision. Solstice just wasn't mature enough when we looked at it. Barco, we were with them from very early on in the development cycle right through to the maturity they have now. Their software though it has some innovative features isn't that nice to use, though I know their virtual classroom software is being used very successfully in a couple of Spanish Uni's On the network side, their NRC200's are rock solid, their NRC100's not so much... Wolfvision have impressed us, rock solid on the network, and their software seems (to me) to be head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. Martin From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Badola, Sakshi Sent: 04 February 2020 14:45 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Hello Andrew, What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the tests, so I am curious. Thanks & Regards Sakshi Badola Wireless Engineer Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam ICT Services Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU%3e>> Namens Andrew Chiarello Verzonden: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:25 PM Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's been all AirServer. Andrew J. Chiarello Senior Network Engineer Bryn Mawr College achiare...@brynmawr.edu<mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu><mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu> (610) 526-7966 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU%3e>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu><mailto:j...@clemson.edu><mailto:j...@clemson.edu%3e>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
It depends on the feature set you are looking for. Solstice is extremely easy for someone to use in conference rooms and classrooms, the calendar integration is nice, and they are easy to manage. I’m interested in seeing what they add as far as conferencing features to the device. That being said, It’s sometimes a bit much to add to our rooms and we are thinking about Crestron Air Media since we have Crestron panels already in some of those spaces. If you want more collaborative features T1V blew us away, but so did the price. Barco we found very cumbersome to use a few years ago now but they may have gotten better. I think it really depends on what needs you have for your spaces. Jason From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Jethro R Binks Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:19 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? There are folks at my site on the A/V side who are invested in the Solstice over about the past year, and they've been working closely with the company to improve its maturity level and have been given assurances of committment to improvements. So hopefully that is progressing and might make it worth a look now or in the future. Jethro. On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, Martin MacLeod-Brown wrote: We have also gone through this process, Barco, Solstice and Wolfvision. Solstice just wasn't mature enough when we looked at it. Barco, we were with them from very early on in the development cycle right through to the maturity they have now. Their software though it has some innovative features isn't that nice to use, though I know their virtual classroom software is being used very successfully in a couple of Spanish Uni's On the network side, their NRC200's are rock solid, their NRC100's not so much... Wolfvision have impressed us, rock solid on the network, and their software seems (to me) to be head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. Martin From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Badola, Sakshi Sent: 04 February 2020 14:45 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Hello Andrew, What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the tests, so I am curious. Thanks & Regards Sakshi Badola Wireless Engineer Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam ICT Services Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU%3e>> Namens Andrew Chiarello Verzonden: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:25 PM Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's been all AirServer. Andrew J. Chiarello Senior Network Engineer Bryn Mawr College achiare...@brynmawr.edu<mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu><mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu> (610) 526-7966 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU%3e>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu><mailto:j...@clemson.edu><mailto:j...@clemson.edu%3e>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu><mailto:jdh...@psu.edu><mailto:jdh...@psu.edu%3e>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn't do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Is
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
There are folks at my site on the A/V side who are invested in the Solstice over about the past year, and they've been working closely with the company to improve its maturity level and have been given assurances of committment to improvements. So hopefully that is progressing and might make it worth a look now or in the future. Jethro. On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, Martin MacLeod-Brown wrote: > We have also gone through this process, Barco, Solstice and Wolfvision. > Solstice just wasn't mature enough when we looked at it. > Barco, we were with them from very early on in the development cycle right > through to the maturity they have now. Their software though it has some > innovative features isn't that nice to use, though I know their virtual > classroom software is being used very successfully in a couple of Spanish > Uni's > On the network side, their NRC200's are rock solid, their NRC100's not so > much... > Wolfvision have impressed us, rock solid on the network, and their software > seems (to me) to be head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. > > Martin > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Badola, Sakshi > Sent: 04 February 2020 14:45 > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > Hello Andrew, > > What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the > tests, so I am curious. > > Thanks & Regards > Sakshi Badola > Wireless Engineer > Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam > ICT Services > Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam > > Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > Namens Andrew Chiarello > Verzonden: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:25 PM > Aan: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > > We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's > been all AirServer. > > > > Andrew J. Chiarello > > Senior Network Engineer > > Bryn Mawr College > > achiare...@brynmawr.edu<mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu> > > (610) 526-7966 > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM > To: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off > locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying > for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like > at home. > > Thanks, > Joseph B. > > On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason > mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > > > We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, > however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. > The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to > keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and > disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless > ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. > > > > There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn't do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. > Mersive is the most complete. > > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" > mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM > To: > "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" > > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > > > Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for > discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent > option. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 > > > > Than
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We have also gone through this process, Barco, Solstice and Wolfvision. Solstice just wasn't mature enough when we looked at it. Barco, we were with them from very early on in the development cycle right through to the maturity they have now. Their software though it has some innovative features isn't that nice to use, though I know their virtual classroom software is being used very successfully in a couple of Spanish Uni's On the network side, their NRC200's are rock solid, their NRC100's not so much... Wolfvision have impressed us, rock solid on the network, and their software seems (to me) to be head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. Martin From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Badola, Sakshi Sent: 04 February 2020 14:45 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Hello Andrew, What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the tests, so I am curious. Thanks & Regards Sakshi Badola Wireless Engineer Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam ICT Services Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Namens Andrew Chiarello Verzonden: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:25 PM Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's been all AirServer. Andrew J. Chiarello Senior Network Engineer Bryn Mawr College achiare...@brynmawr.edu<mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu> (610) 526-7966 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn't do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%
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Hello Andrew, What are your findings from the Solstice Pod test. I am about to begin the tests, so I am curious. Thanks & Regards Sakshi Badola Wireless Engineer Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam ICT Services Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Namens Andrew Chiarello Verzonden: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:25 PM Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's been all AirServer. Andrew J. Chiarello Senior Network Engineer Bryn Mawr College achiare...@brynmawr.edu<mailto:achiare...@brynmawr.edu> (610) 526-7966 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn't do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cachiarello%40BRYNMAWR.EDU%7C45aff88d895e4a4c8bb108d5d6c1adf1%7Cc94b117b616347fd93f8b8001804ae6f%7C1%7C0%7C636651049707654866=Bqvp4qnBnsW6qkOND3%2Fb2znpw539gRTZ2WE%2BnhYlAd0%3D=0>. ** Participation and subscripti
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We use AirMedia, it's just simple to use. Yahya Jaber. Sr. Wireless Engineer IT Network & Communications - Engineering Building 14, Level 3, Rm 308-WS07 KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA Email yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa Office +966 (0) 12 8081237 Mobile +966 (0) 558697555 On Call Rotation Mobile: +966 54 470 1177 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 17:27 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. This message and its contents including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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Wow. I didn't know about the changes to the latest model. Thanks James. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 6:32 PM James Andrewartha < jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote: > On 21/06/18 01:32, Mark Duling wrote: > > Can you elaborate on your comment on how the 4k AppleTV can get stuck in > > an app and need to be RMA'd? I'm not sure what you mean. > > > > "Just don’t get the 4K version, if they get stuck in an app and lose > > their connection to the MDM you have to RMA them." > Sure. If you have an Apple TV 4K enrolled in MDM (presumably using DEP), > and then push down a profile for single-app mode (say for your digital > signage app), and then the Apple TV 4K loses connectivity with the MDM > (it can happen in various ways, but let's say someone deleted it from > the MDM by accident), then the Apple TV 4K will be stuck in single-app > mode forever. > > There is no way to restore it to default config using Apple Configurator > like you can with previous models, since they removed the USB port. The > only solution is to return it to Apple for a replacement under warranty. > > I'm not aware of any blog posts about it, this comes from the #apple-tv > channel on the MacAdmins Slack https://macadmins.herokuapp.com/ > > -- > James Andrewartha > Network & Projects Engineer > Christ Church Grammar School > Claremont, Western Australia > Ph. (08) 9442 1757 > Mob. 0424 160 877 > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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On 21/06/18 01:32, Mark Duling wrote: > Can you elaborate on your comment on how the 4k AppleTV can get stuck in > an app and need to be RMA'd? I'm not sure what you mean. > > "Just don’t get the 4K version, if they get stuck in an app and lose > their connection to the MDM you have to RMA them." Sure. If you have an Apple TV 4K enrolled in MDM (presumably using DEP), and then push down a profile for single-app mode (say for your digital signage app), and then the Apple TV 4K loses connectivity with the MDM (it can happen in various ways, but let's say someone deleted it from the MDM by accident), then the Apple TV 4K will be stuck in single-app mode forever. There is no way to restore it to default config using Apple Configurator like you can with previous models, since they removed the USB port. The only solution is to return it to Apple for a replacement under warranty. I'm not aware of any blog posts about it, this comes from the #apple-tv channel on the MacAdmins Slack https://macadmins.herokuapp.com/ -- James Andrewartha Network & Projects Engineer Christ Church Grammar School Claremont, Western Australia Ph. (08) 9442 1757 Mob. 0424 160 877 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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We do have a WebEx site license, and I think we've tried what you are suggesting with less than stellar results when using video. That might be nature of WebEx though. Thanks, Joseph B. On 6/20/18, 2:18 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Toeniskoetter, Richard J" wrote: Joseph, This doesn't specifically address your question, but may be a useful alternative. If your school has a Zoom site license, this can be used as a simple way to bypass all of the compatibility issues with hardware solutions. We have been going this route and it seems to be working well, simply assigning each faculty member their own Zoom account. We also set their Zoom account ID as their phone number so it is easy to remember. Richard Toeniskoetter Chief Information Officer University of Southern Indiana 8600 University Boulevard Evansville, IN 47712 812-464-1733 (office) 812-465-1080 (IT Help Desk) richard.toeniskoet...@usi.edu | www.usi.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 9:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? *** This message was sent from a non-USI address. Please exercise caution when responding, clicking on links or opening attachments. *** Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7CRichard.Toeniskoetter%40USI.EDU%7C4e13f94637254066a50e08d5d6b9e68b%7Cae1d882c786b492c90953d81d0a2f615%7C0%7C1%7C636651016305193459=jy8iWK2WtpmE%2BRGW1dBMv5WbvMWeU4KQuFqOJOfiuNo%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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Joseph, This doesn't specifically address your question, but may be a useful alternative. If your school has a Zoom site license, this can be used as a simple way to bypass all of the compatibility issues with hardware solutions. We have been going this route and it seems to be working well, simply assigning each faculty member their own Zoom account. We also set their Zoom account ID as their phone number so it is easy to remember. Richard Toeniskoetter Chief Information Officer University of Southern Indiana 8600 University Boulevard Evansville, IN 47712 812-464-1733 (office) 812-465-1080 (IT Help Desk) richard.toeniskoet...@usi.edu | www.usi.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 9:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? *** This message was sent from a non-USI address. Please exercise caution when responding, clicking on links or opening attachments. *** Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7CRichard.Toeniskoetter%40USI.EDU%7C4e13f94637254066a50e08d5d6b9e68b%7Cae1d882c786b492c90953d81d0a2f615%7C0%7C1%7C636651016305193459=jy8iWK2WtpmE%2BRGW1dBMv5WbvMWeU4KQuFqOJOfiuNo%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
Hi James, Can you elaborate on your comment on how the 4k AppleTV can get stuck in an app and need to be RMA'd? I'm not sure what you mean. "Just don’t get the 4K version, if they get stuck in an app and lose their connection to the MDM you have to RMA them." Mark On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:03 AM James Andrewartha < jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote: > In short, no. I have lost count of the number of wireless projection > devices we’ve looked at. Vivi, Crestron AirMedia, Microsoft Wireless > Display Adapter, Chromecast, Kramer Via Go we’ve had actual hardware, > AirParrot, Mersive Solstice and the built-in Windows 10 receiver are > software we’ve tried, and I’ve looked at the specs of Barco WePresent, > Lifesize Share, Airtame and probably others I can’t remember off the top of > my head, and so far none of them are as good or as cheap as Apple TVs. Of > these, AirMedia does a very good Airplay but the cost (like many of the > other professional grade ones) is above $1000/room, but then again I can’t > get the Windows software to work, even under an administrator account. > > It’s almost at the point where I would suggest have Apple TVs for Apple > devices and another solution for Windows devices. Particularly with VPP > coming to tvOS they are reasonably manageable now. Just don’t get the 4K > version, if they get stuck in an app and lose their connection to the MDM > you have to RMA them. > > -- > James Andrewartha > Network & Projects Engineer > Christ Church Grammar School > Claremont, Western Australia > Ph. (08) 9442 1757 > Mob. 0424 160 877 > > On 20/6/18, 10:27 pm, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group > Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard" on behalf of j...@clemson.edu> wrote: > > Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works > with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network > (802.1x/PEAP)? > > Thanks, > Joseph Bernard > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We started providing a PSK connection for residents for their IoT devices and faculty in buildings close enough are starting to use it to get around using the more secure network. I feel a big mess coming. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Ken Meggitt mailto:krmegg...@alaska.edu>> wrote: I struggled with a group that continued to purchase chrome cast and apple TV's. They would request these devices be placed on a network with no authentication mechanism. We provide Eduroam and WPA2-Enterprise as authentication solutions. To push this group into an authenticated solution I did some digging around I found a method by which you could attach an Eduroam cert to an Apple TV but it required downloading and installing a development package from apple. The other option was an Ethernet adapter for their Chrome Cast fleet. But it raised the overall price of the device by $25 a piece. The cheap price of the Chrome Cast devices is what is keeping them from exploring a more secure connection method. Which leaves my group managing a hidden unencrypted SSID. On 6/20/2018 7:39 AM, Joel Coehoorn wrote: We really like AirServer here. It's cheap, and it supports AirPlay, Miracast (Windows), and Chromecast (ChromeOS/Android) in one package. It's gotten a lot better over the years at the video hand-off/YouTube issues, though I do still see some occasional sync issues between the audio portion of video content and recommend if showing a video is the main thing you want to do, just use the PC in the room. The real downside to AirServer is the you need hardware to run it on. If you have a computer already in the room, you're done, and the cost per room is only about $10. If you don't already have hardware, you need a computer to pair with it. They sell a tiny pre-built unit for $400. The system requirement are very small, so you could build one yourself for the $200 price point if you're willing to shop around. There's also an XBox One version, which does meet your price point if you're willing to go that route. And, of course, with *all* AirPlay/Chromecast solutions you need to consider the network discovery questions. But that shouldn't be news to anyone here. [https://docs.google.com/a/york.edu/uc?id=0B6EvlGH2mMjUVWozX2lScmplOFU] Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 jcoeho...@york.edu<mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu> Please contact helpd...@york.edu<mailto:helpd...@york.edu> for technical assistance. The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Partici
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We're just beginning to experiment with the SolsticePod - previously it's been all AirServer. Andrew J. Chiarello Senior Network Engineer Bryn Mawr College achiare...@brynmawr.edu (610) 526-7966 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:22:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cachiarello%40BRYNMAWR.EDU%7C45aff88d895e4a4c8bb108d5d6c1adf1%7Cc94b117b616347fd93f8b8001804ae6f%7C1%7C0%7C636651049707654866=Bqvp4qnBnsW6qkOND3%2Fb2znpw539gRTZ2WE%2BnhYlAd0%3D=0>. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cachiarello%40BRYNMAWR.EDU%7C45aff88d895e4a4c8bb108d5d6c1adf1%7Cc94b117b616347fd93f8b8001804ae6f%7C1%7C0%7C636651049707664871=H2xUf7jLh%2B3vHGNrLhFchWbPxm1xymVOTv21YR4%2F1W8%3D=0>. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
I struggled with a group that continued to purchase chrome cast and
apple TV's. They would request these devices be placed on a network
with no authentication mechanism. We provide Eduroam and
WPA2-Enterprise as authentication solutions. To push this group into an
authenticated solution I did some digging around I found a method by
which you could attach an Eduroam cert to an Apple TV but it required
downloading and installing a development package from apple. The other
option was an Ethernet adapter for their Chrome Cast fleet. But it
raised the overall price of the device by $25 a piece. The cheap price
of the Chrome Cast devices is what is keeping them from exploring a more
secure connection method. Which leaves my group managing a hidden
unencrypted SSID.
On 6/20/2018 7:39 AM, Joel Coehoorn wrote:
We really like AirServer here. It's cheap, and it supports AirPlay,
Miracast (Windows), and Chromecast (ChromeOS/Android) in one package.
It's gotten a lot better over the years at the video hand-off/YouTube
issues, though I do still see some occasional sync issues between the
audio portion of video content and recommend if showing a video is the
main thing you want to do, just use the PC in the room.
The real downside to AirServer is the you need hardware to run it on.
If you have a computer already in the room, you're done, and the cost
per room is only about $10. If you don't already have hardware, you
need a computer to pair with it. They sell a tiny pre-built unit for
$400. The system requirement are very small, so you could build one
yourself for the $200 price point if you're willing to shop around.
There's also an XBox One version, which does meet your price point if
you're willing to go that route.
And, of course, with *all* AirPlay/Chromecast solutions you need to
consider the network discovery questions. But that shouldn't be news
to anyone here.
Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu <mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>*
*Please contact helpd...@york.edu <mailto:helpd...@york.edu> for
technical assistance.*
The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service
to God, family, and society
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM Heffner, Jason <mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with
AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively
to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for
the development time put in to keeping their solution working on
all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless
adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and
connect to them over our enterprise network.
There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet,
etc .. Mersive is the most complete.
*From: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis
K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>>
*Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group
Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
*Date: *Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM
*To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>"
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
*Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth
for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is
a decent option.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0
Thanks,
--
Curtis K. Larsen
Senior Network Engineer
University of Utah IT/CIS
Office 801-587-1313
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph
Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that
works with Apple devices to share video and works with an
enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)?
Thanks,
Joseph Bernard
**
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We really like AirServer here. It's cheap, and it supports AirPlay, Miracast (Windows), and Chromecast (ChromeOS/Android) in one package. It's gotten a lot better over the years at the video hand-off/YouTube issues, though I do still see some occasional sync issues between the audio portion of video content and recommend if showing a video is the main thing you want to do, just use the PC in the room. The real downside to AirServer is the you need hardware to run it on. If you have a computer already in the room, you're done, and the cost per room is only about $10. If you don't already have hardware, you need a computer to pair with it. They sell a tiny pre-built unit for $400. The system requirement are very small, so you could build one yourself for the $200 price point if you're willing to shop around. There's also an XBox One version, which does meet your price point if you're willing to go that route. And, of course, with *all* AirPlay/Chromecast solutions you need to consider the network discovery questions. But that shouldn't be news to anyone here. Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoeho...@york.edu * *Please contact helpd...@york.edu for technical assistance.* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM Heffner, Jason wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > > > We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, > however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive > Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time > put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into > ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own > 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. > > > > There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. > Mersive is the most complete. > > > > *From: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" < > curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu> > *Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Date: *Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM > *To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > > > Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for > discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent > option. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Curtis K. Larsen > > Senior Network Engineer > > University of Utah IT/CIS > > Office 801-587-1313 > > > > > > > > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Joseph Bernard < > j...@clemson.edu> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM > > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? > > > > Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works > with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network > (802.1x/PEAP)? > > > > Thanks, > > Joseph Bernard > > > > ** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0 > . > > > > ** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0 > . > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
When you understand the development time necessary the cost doesn’t seem as high. Most times the Mersive also replaces the need for a PC and management costs/time of that system in the room. We get some of the same concerns with the price though. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 11:22 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7Ceeaaa35896124e59e4eb08d5d6c1b1e6%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651049760262130=d86vzNIrJh%2Byv7FS5Mp%2BWFTTi%2BRMpnUc88nlJ5TMtX4%3D=0>. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7Ceeaaa35896124e59e4eb08d5d6c1b1e6%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651049760272162=mssxXBPVNXcXVAhGbRk5kJq9xE7FrZPjAP%2FAh3SpBiM%3D=0>. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We use Solstice and Crestron AirMedia in most places, but people in one off locations scoff at the $1000 price. Ditto sounds like an idea worth trying for the customers who already bought Apple TVs thinking they would work like at home. Thanks, Joseph B. On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Heffner, Jason mailto:jdh...@psu.edu>> wrote: Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
Hi Joseph, We had developed the Mirror App at Penn State that worked with AppleTVs, however, over the last two years we switched exclusively to Mersive Solstice. The $1K price per box was worth it to us for the development time put in to keeping their solution working on all clients. We wire them into ethernet and disable the wireless adapters. This allows us to use our own 802.1x wireless ssid and connect to them over our enterprise network. There were other solutions.. AirTame doesn’t do iOS mirroring yet, etc .. Mersive is the most complete. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of "Curtis K. Larsen" Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:51 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fairtame.com=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=1rkFpMuanOUappNc%2FdXH2g4i1QQJcYbr3fD1waDn%2BE8%3D=0 Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Joseph Bernard mailto:j...@clemson.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7Cjdh132%40psu.edu%7C41d62ddf93034933388808d5d6bd3e5f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C636651030667204159=KpRnnxxtIuhfpHHuxpYqGjR%2FqgLl5ijtb7m0DjRrY7g%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
In short, no. I have lost count of the number of wireless projection devices we’ve looked at. Vivi, Crestron AirMedia, Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter, Chromecast, Kramer Via Go we’ve had actual hardware, AirParrot, Mersive Solstice and the built-in Windows 10 receiver are software we’ve tried, and I’ve looked at the specs of Barco WePresent, Lifesize Share, Airtame and probably others I can’t remember off the top of my head, and so far none of them are as good or as cheap as Apple TVs. Of these, AirMedia does a very good Airplay but the cost (like many of the other professional grade ones) is above $1000/room, but then again I can’t get the Windows software to work, even under an administrator account. It’s almost at the point where I would suggest have Apple TVs for Apple devices and another solution for Windows devices. Particularly with VPP coming to tvOS they are reasonably manageable now. Just don’t get the 4K version, if they get stuck in an app and lose their connection to the MDM you have to RMA them. -- James Andrewartha Network & Projects Engineer Christ Church Grammar School Claremont, Western Australia Ph. (08) 9442 1757 Mob. 0424 160 877 On 20/6/18, 10:27 pm, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard" wrote: Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative?
We evaluated many video sharing solutions including: * AppleTV with AirParrot's Ditto (for Windows systems) * WePresent * Crestron AirMedia * Wolfvision Cynap * AirServer Only AppleTV and Airserver are less than $200. The other solutions were significantly more expensive. We ran a demonstration with campus stakeholders, including department chairs and professors, to show the experience on each solution. The results were clear and unambiguous. AppleTV paired with Ditto was far superior to the other solutions in ease of use, video framerate, video resolution, video artifacts, video/audio synchronization, and obviously: price. The professors stated that the other solutions were essentially unusable for anything besides basic slideshows. Also, keep in mind that when an iOS device tries to play a video, it attempts a hand-off to the "AppleTV" to play the content, and at the time of our testing, none of the other solutions accept the handoff, causing the iOS device to crash. This breaks Netflix, Youtube, and device-resident videos, applications that many professors need for their class material. We initially set up our network for network-based discovery of the AppleTVs. This was a management nightmare, however, since we needed to micromanage the access points on which an AppleTV's mDNS signals were forwarded on. We have resorted to Bluetooth based discovery, and this has been successful in our environments. We have around 100 AppleTVs installed in this way around our campus, and we are receiving rave reviews from our stakeholders about the solution. -- Jason Trinklein Wireless Engineering Manager College of Charleston 81 St. Philip Street | Office 311D | Charleston, SC 29403 trinkle...@cofc.edu | (843) 300–8009 On 6/20/18, 10:27 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard" wrote: Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fdiscuss=02%7C01%7C%7Ca56f2a4886c84b8ce4c808d5d6b9e691%7Ce285d438dbba4a4c941c593ba422deac%7C0%7C1%7C636651016277180264=jWm%2B6xG0cBn6A0MCJxy2DpZXp7kWCdzIcgt%2B7CYdPtM%3D=0. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: Apple TV alternative?
Most Apple TVs purchased in the last few years can use bluetooth for discovery instead of the network, but failing that Airtame is a decent option. https://airtame.com Thanks, -- Curtis K. Larsen Senior Network Engineer University of Utah IT/CIS Office 801-587-1313 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Joseph Bernard Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV alternative? Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Apple TV alternative?
Does anyone have success with a device that is $200 or less that works with Apple devices to share video and works with an enterprise wifi network (802.1x/PEAP)? Thanks, Joseph Bernard ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
