Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
Frank Bulk wrote: Guessing by the size of most institutions on this listserv, WiMAX at its highest speed, 75 Mbps, would not be enough. Oh, I don't know -- that's the size of our one-and-only link today! -- Regards, -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College www.calfrye.com, www.pitalabs.com "Religion is not a two-party system." -- Keila Szpaller. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
Guessing by the size of most institutions on this listserv, WiMAX at its highest speed, 75 Mbps, would not be enough. Frank -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Gracie Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: > WiMAX is a MAN solution will generally offer lower throughput than > 802.11n. It's generally not a good enterprise fit. It sure does look interesting as a secondary/backup Internet connection, though. An additional path without laying additional redundant fiber? Sign me up! Is anyone using a WiMax connection in this way? I haven't seen anything locally, but Buffalo isn't generally on the cutting edge for this sort of thing. --Matt > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman > *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:45 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax > > > > Just a half-baked notion: wondering if anyone currently running 11a/g > may be contemplating the merits of forgoing 11n for WiMax looking 12-24 > months down the road? > > > > Regards- > > > > Lee > > > > Lee H. Badman > > Wireless/Network Engineer > > Information Technology and Services > > Syracuse University > > 315 443-3003 > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Matt Gracie (716) 888-8378 Information Security Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canisius College ITSBuffalo, NY http://www2.canisius.edu/~graciem/graciem_public_key.gpg ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: WiMAX is a MAN solution will generally offer lower throughput than 802.11n. It’s generally not a good enterprise fit. It sure does look interesting as a secondary/backup Internet connection, though. An additional path without laying additional redundant fiber? Sign me up! Is anyone using a WiMax connection in this way? I haven't seen anything locally, but Buffalo isn't generally on the cutting edge for this sort of thing. --Matt Frank *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:45 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Just a half-baked notion: wondering if anyone currently running 11a/g may be contemplating the merits of forgoing 11n for WiMax looking 12-24 months down the road? Regards- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Matt Gracie (716) 888-8378 Information Security Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canisius College ITSBuffalo, NY http://www2.canisius.edu/~graciem/graciem_public_key.gpg ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
Matt (and Frank)- Remember- I said the question was half-baked! I know the first thing that comes up in wireless discussions tends to be data rates, and rightfully so- I was more thinking of the promise of wide coverage from single points, etc., and the fact that even if you get stellar 11n speeds, many environments rate limit at the Internet edge to sub-g throughputs anyway... Did I mention this was a half-baked question? :-) Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:20 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Hi Lee, Before we went with 11n, we briefly looked at WiMax, and Frank was right. In order to have 1000+ simultaneous clients, it would have taken many "towers" which was a huge investment, and the actual speeds (at any realistic distances) were slower than 11a/g. It really wasn't a realistic option for us in terms of cost and performance. I also wouldn't be surprised to see LTE being the dominant MAN solution a few years down the road, with the backing of AT&T and Verizon. Take care, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk - iNAME Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:32 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax WiMAX is a MAN solution will generally offer lower throughput than 802.11n. It's generally not a good enterprise fit. Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:45 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Just a half-baked notion: wondering if anyone currently running 11a/g may be contemplating the merits of forgoing 11n for WiMax looking 12-24 months down the road? Regards- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
Hi Lee, Before we went with 11n, we briefly looked at WiMax, and Frank was right. In order to have 1000+ simultaneous clients, it would have taken many "towers" which was a huge investment, and the actual speeds (at any realistic distances) were slower than 11a/g. It really wasn't a realistic option for us in terms of cost and performance. I also wouldn't be surprised to see LTE being the dominant MAN solution a few years down the road, with the backing of AT&T and Verizon. Take care, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk - iNAME Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:32 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax WiMAX is a MAN solution will generally offer lower throughput than 802.11n. It's generally not a good enterprise fit. Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:45 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Just a half-baked notion: wondering if anyone currently running 11a/g may be contemplating the merits of forgoing 11n for WiMax looking 12-24 months down the road? Regards- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax
WiMAX is a MAN solution will generally offer lower throughput than 802.11n. It's generally not a good enterprise fit. Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:45 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11n/WiMax Just a half-baked notion: wondering if anyone currently running 11a/g may be contemplating the merits of forgoing 11n for WiMax looking 12-24 months down the road? Regards- Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.