RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
For what it's worth... I used to agree that the fee for the firmware upgrade was ridiculous... until I did it on my own iPod. The new features turned my 'toy' into a 'tool'. MS Exchange integration works flawlessly. Only thing you can't see is your tasks list. For most people, just mention the new Facebook app and all ill will is lost. In my book, the new features are worth the 10 bucks. Most users will forget that security fixes were even included. Jacob Barros Network Security Administrator Grace College and Seminary From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry list of security fixes that are included. Seems like it should have been a free patch. Ah wellJ Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
I agree with Jacob. While I always welcome something for free.. $10 is a small price to pay for the added security, applications, and Exchange support. David -- David Morton Director, Mobile Communication Strategies University of Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel 206.221.7814 _ www.freshlymobile.com a fresh look at mobility __ On 7/25/08 6:37 AM, Barros, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth... I used to agree that the fee for the firmware upgrade was ridiculous... until I did it on my own iPod. The new features turned my 'toy' into a 'tool'. MS Exchange integration works flawlessly. Only thing you can't see is your tasks list. For most people, just mention the new Facebook app and all ill will is lost. In my book, the new features are worth the 10 bucks. Most users will forget that security fixes were even included. Jacob Barros Network Security Administrator Grace College and Seminary From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry list of security fixes that are included. Seems like it should have been a free patch. Ah well:) Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
Among the security bug fixes: http://secunia.com/advisories/31074/ More reason to ensure people upgrade (and more ammo against charging to get security flaws fixed). Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DAVID R. MORTON Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:34 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news I agree with Jacob. While I always welcome something for free.. $10 is a small price to pay for the added security, applications, and Exchange support. David -- David Morton Director, Mobile Communication Strategies University of Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel 206.221.7814 _ www.freshlymobile.com a fresh look at mobility __ On 7/25/08 6:37 AM, Barros, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth... I used to agree that the fee for the firmware upgrade was ridiculous... until I did it on my own iPod. The new features turned my 'toy' into a 'tool'. MS Exchange integration works flawlessly. Only thing you can't see is your tasks list. For most people, just mention the new Facebook app and all ill will is lost. In my book, the new features are worth the 10 bucks. Most users will forget that security fixes were even included. Jacob Barros Network Security Administrator Grace College and Seminary From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry list of security fixes that are included. Seems like it should have been a free patch. Ah well:-) Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
It does not support Bluetooth tethering, and the ad-hoc hack only works if you jailbreak the phone/iPod. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Hey iPod Touch users out there, Has anyone tried using the Cisco VPN client (part of the 2.0 upgrade) successfully? Does anyone know if the 2.0 upgrade for the Touch supports Bluetooth tethering? I hear the current hack is to use an Ad Hoc WiFi connection. Thanks, Bruce Johnson Network Engineer Partners Healthcare 617-726-9662 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of DAVID R. MORTON Sent: Fri 7/25/2008 11:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news I agree with Jacob. While I always welcome something for free.. $10 is a small price to pay for the added security, applications, and Exchange support. David -- David Morton Director, Mobile Communication Strategies University of Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel 206.221.7814 _ www.freshlymobile.com a fresh look at mobility __ On 7/25/08 6:37 AM, Barros, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth... I used to agree that the fee for the firmware upgrade was ridiculous... until I did it on my own iPod. The new features turned my 'toy' into a 'tool'. MS Exchange integration works flawlessly. Only thing you can't see is your tasks list. For most people, just mention the new Facebook app and all ill will is lost. In my book, the new features are worth the 10 bucks. Most users will forget that security fixes were even included. Jacob Barros Network Security Administrator Grace College and Seminary From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
Thanks Matt! Bruce Johnson Network Engineer Partners Healthcare 617-726-9662 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Barber, Matt Sent: Fri 7/25/2008 12:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news It does not support Bluetooth tethering, and the ad-hoc hack only works if you jailbreak the phone/iPod. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Hey iPod Touch users out there, Has anyone tried using the Cisco VPN client (part of the 2.0 upgrade) successfully? Does anyone know if the 2.0 upgrade for the Touch supports Bluetooth tethering? I hear the current hack is to use an Ad Hoc WiFi connection. Thanks, Bruce Johnson Network Engineer Partners Healthcare 617-726-9662 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of DAVID R. MORTON Sent: Fri 7/25/2008 11:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news I agree with Jacob. While I always welcome something for free.. $10 is a small price to pay for the added security, applications, and Exchange support. David -- David Morton Director, Mobile Communication Strategies University of Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel 206.221.7814 _ www.freshlymobile.com a fresh look at mobility __ On 7/25/08 6:37 AM, Barros, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth... I used to agree that the fee for the firmware upgrade was ridiculous... until I did it on my own iPod. The new features turned my 'toy' into a 'tool'. MS Exchange integration works flawlessly. Only thing you can't see is your tasks list. For most people, just mention the new Facebook app and all ill will is lost. In my book, the new features are worth the 10 bucks. Most users will forget that security fixes were even included. Jacob Barros Network Security Administrator Grace College and Seminary From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325284,00.asp So far, very erratic on the secure wireless networks between a couple of ours that have tried it, though the settings are all there for WPA/WPA2 enterprise. Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- David Wang, Networking Services, CCS www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry list of security fixes that are included. Seems like it should have been a free patch. Ah well:-) Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325284,00.asp So far, very erratic on the secure wireless networks between a couple of ours that have tried it, though the settings are all there for WPA/WPA2 enterprise. Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- David Wang, Networking Services, CCS www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
Wireless has been smooth for those using it with WPA2 enterprise. But it was installed with the iphone config tool. Added cert trust settings there. -Original Message- From: Barber, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Date: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:17 am Size: 2K To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Is anyone else still seeing “erratic” behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn’t prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325284,00.asp So far, very erratic on the secure wireless networks between a couple of ours that have tried it, though the settings are all there for WPA/WPA2 enterprise. Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- David Wang, Networking Services, CCS www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
Thanks for the summary Lee. I am totally on-board with the ability to do WPA Enterprise at all being great. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing some strangeness. I was going to take a look at the config tool anyway, but I will give that a shot and then see what issues remain. The charge for 2.0 for Touch users is totally ridiculous. It will stink that there a bunch of Touches on campus that are missing those security fixes and the ability to use the configuration profiles, just because there is a 10 dollar charge for it. Thanks, Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news We have seen a few things so far, I consider these circumstantial but very consistent: - some users want to simply point at the secure SSID without setting up the profile. In the iPhone, I see no prompting at all for any certs, etc., just spins it's obnoxious little wheel until it times out and jumps over to a non-secure WLAN - even when setting the right profile settings, rebooting the iPhone usually needs a reboot to find the WPA network - if you use the pre-configure tool as opposed to manually setting it up, the user experience is a lot quicker and more consistent - regardless of how you get set up, there is a lot of variability in the smoothness of transitioning between WLANs, especially secure and non-secure. My other hand-helds (iPaq, Palm TX) have no such issues on same networks from same places - You'll note that there seems to be no place in the settings to enter a specific auth server, leaving a potential vector for man-in-the-middle fun. All this being said- the fact that you can point the iPhone to the secure WLAN and connect is in itself a huge gain for those who have been demanding it. We'll keep on watching and observing as this product and it's processes mature. I will say that I find the fee for iPod Touch upgrades to get the 2.0 software somewhat disgusting, given the laundry list of security fixes that are included. Seems like it should have been a free patch. Ah wellJ Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Is anyone else still seeing erratic behavior with any iPhones/iPod Touches running 2.0? I have had some strange problems with mine and some others here. When trying to connect to my WPA2 PEAP-MSCHAPv2 network, for a while it wouldn't prompt me to accept our self-signed cert. After resetting the network settings (Settings - General - Reset) it prompted me and connected just fine. Then I go home and can no longer connect to my WPA2-PSK network there after putting the password in. A day later, it worked fine! Other people here have seen some similar strange issues. Sometimes turning the WiFi adapter off and back on is enough to take care of it, sometimes not. Sometimes resetting all the network stuff helps, but again, sometimes not. Matt Barber Network Analyst / PC Support Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325284,00.asp So far, very erratic on the secure wireless networks between a couple of ours that have tried it, though the settings are all there for WPA/WPA2 enterprise. Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- David Wang, Networking Services, CCS www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news
yessir- is fairly straight forward. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of David [EMAIL PROTECTED] of G Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPhone 2.0 news Lee, are you able to get iPhone 2.0 with WPA/WPA2 Enterprise working? thanks. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325284,00.asp So far, very erratic on the secure wireless networks between a couple of ours that have tried it, though the settings are all there for WPA/WPA2 enterprise. Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- David Wang, Networking Services, CCS www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
