Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Mark Elley
This sounds very much like the problem we had with 20+ 2702I-E-K9 APs.
It's a bug in the firmware - no idea how it got through testing...

We had to serially config them all by hand - very painful.

Process was...

   - Get MAC address of AP into your DHCP server
   - Boot AP
   - Using serial cable - enable - Cisco
   - Type: *capwap ap controller ip address w.x.y.z* (in a few seconds the
   AP will start firmware upgrade - AP flashing blue)
   - When you get the usual Not in Bound state error, login to the CLI
   Uesrname: Cisco, Password: Cisco
   - enable - Cisco
   - Type: *clear lwapp private-config* (AP will now start chatting to wism
   w.x.y.z)


Apologies if this is not the same issue but if it is it will save you an
awful lot of time trying to figure it out.

We also saw the issue Jezz mentioned with two MAC addresses.  That was
easier to overcome!

Mark

Wireless Service Manager
IT Services, University of Bristol

On 22 July 2015 at 17:48, Bahr, Deb db...@coe.edu wrote:

 I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and am
 seeing the following error:

 Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP
 is wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then
 continue this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.

 I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects
 flawlessly.   I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.

 Has anyone else ran into this issue?

 --

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Drury, Mary
I had that issue with 1702.
Solution from TAC was to ssh to AP:
Debug capwap console cli
Capwap ap controller ip address {IP_of_WLC}

It works, but as you say, massively annoying.
There is a suspicion that having the AP come up in the same vlan as the WLC - 
my aps are in 4 different vlans, none of which are the vlan for WLC  - that it 
would find the controller.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:38 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

Not with 2702's but 3702's, we had a batch come in enabled in Bridge mode out 
of the box. In which case you have to login to your controller and add the MAC 
address in the filter to allow it to associate. Then let it download the image, 
then change the mode. 

Massively annoying, but sometimes that's how it goes...




Britton Anderson mailto:blanders...@alaska.edu  |  Senior Network 
Communications Specialist |  University of Alaska 
http://www.alaska.edu/oit  | 907.450.8250   


On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Mark Elley mark.el...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:


This sounds very much like the problem we had with 20+ 2702I-E-K9 APs.  
It's a bug in the firmware - no idea how it got through testing...

We had to serially config them all by hand - very painful.

Process was...

*   Get MAC address of AP into your DHCP server
*   Boot AP

*   Using serial cable - enable - Cisco

*   Type: capwap ap controller ip address w.x.y.z (in a few seconds 
the AP will start firmware upgrade - AP flashing blue)

*   When you get the usual Not in Bound state error, login to the 
CLI Uesrname: Cisco, Password: Cisco

*   enable - Cisco

*   Type: clear lwapp private-config (AP will now start chatting to 
wism w.x.y.z)



Apologies if this is not the same issue but if it is it will save you 
an awful lot of time trying to figure it out.

We also saw the issue Jezz mentioned with two MAC addresses.  That was 
easier to overcome!

Mark

Wireless Service Manager
IT Services, University of Bristol 

On 22 July 2015 at 17:48, Bahr, Deb db...@coe.edu wrote:


I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless 
controllers and am seeing the following error:


Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or 
assigned IP is wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and 
then continue this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.


I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it 
connects flawlessly.   I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.


Has anyone else ran into this issue?


-- 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Britton Anderson
Not with 2702's but 3702's, we had a batch come in enabled in Bridge mode
out of the box. In which case you have to login to your controller and add
the MAC address in the filter to allow it to associate. Then let it
download the image, then change the mode.

Massively annoying, but sometimes that's how it goes...




Britton Anderson blanders...@alaska.edu | Senior Network Communications
Specialist | University of Alaska http://www.alaska.edu/oit | 907.450.8250

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Mark Elley mark.el...@bristol.ac.uk
wrote:

 This sounds very much like the problem we had with 20+ 2702I-E-K9 APs.
 It's a bug in the firmware - no idea how it got through testing...

 We had to serially config them all by hand - very painful.

 Process was...

- Get MAC address of AP into your DHCP server
- Boot AP
- Using serial cable - enable - Cisco
- Type: *capwap ap controller ip address w.x.y.z* (in a few seconds
the AP will start firmware upgrade - AP flashing blue)
- When you get the usual Not in Bound state error, login to the CLI
Uesrname: Cisco, Password: Cisco
- enable - Cisco
- Type: *clear lwapp private-config* (AP will now start chatting to
wism w.x.y.z)


 Apologies if this is not the same issue but if it is it will save you an
 awful lot of time trying to figure it out.

 We also saw the issue Jezz mentioned with two MAC addresses.  That was
 easier to overcome!

 Mark

 Wireless Service Manager
 IT Services, University of Bristol

 On 22 July 2015 at 17:48, Bahr, Deb db...@coe.edu wrote:

 I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and
 am seeing the following error:

 Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP
 is wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then
 continue this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.

 I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects
 flawlessly.   I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.

 Has anyone else ran into this issue?

 --

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Palmer J . D . F .
Hi,

We’ve had an issue with AIR-CAP2702I’s doing this, the issue was they were 
presenting 2 MAC addresses, the one on the sticker, and the next on in the 
sequence; it’s this next in sequence which was requesting DHCP.
We had to register two MACs for each AP for DHCP.  Once the AP has updated its 
image from the controller it reverts back to using the MAC on the label and 
everything is as should be.
TBH it pretty annoying, we’ve had around 200 out of 400 units do this.

Whether this is your issue I’m unsure, but it’s worth checking; also make sure 
your switch ports are configured up to accept multiple MACs.

Cheers,
Jezz.

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and am 
seeing the following error:

Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP is 
wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then continue 
this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.
I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects flawlessly. 
  I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.
Has anyone else ran into this issue?

--
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Department of Information Technology
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Joey Rego
Hey Deb,

You may also want to review this.  
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless-mobility/wireless-lan-wlan/97066-dhcp-option-43-00.html

Maybe all you need is to add option 43 with the hex of the ip address for the 
controller. Hope this helps you.

Joey Rego
Network Security Administrator
Information Technology
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Boca Raton, FL 33431
T: 561-237-7982
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[cid:image002.jpg@01CF442D.90504330]

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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:38 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

Not with 2702's but 3702's, we had a batch come in enabled in Bridge mode out 
of the box. In which case you have to login to your controller and add the MAC 
address in the filter to allow it to associate. Then let it download the image, 
then change the mode.

Massively annoying, but sometimes that's how it goes...



Britton Andersonmailto:blanders...@alaska.edu |

 Senior Network Communications Specialist |

 University of Alaskahttp://www.alaska.edu/oit |

 907.450.8250



On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Mark Elley 
mark.el...@bristol.ac.ukmailto:mark.el...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
This sounds very much like the problem we had with 20+ 2702I-E-K9 APs.  It's a 
bug in the firmware - no idea how it got through testing...

We had to serially config them all by hand - very painful.

Process was...

  *   Get MAC address of AP into your DHCP server
  *   Boot AP
  *   Using serial cable - enable - Cisco
  *   Type: capwap ap controller ip address w.x.y.z (in a few seconds the AP 
will start firmware upgrade - AP flashing blue)
  *   When you get the usual Not in Bound state error, login to the CLI 
Uesrname: Cisco, Password: Cisco
  *   enable - Cisco
  *   Type: clear lwapp private-config (AP will now start chatting to wism 
w.x.y.z)

Apologies if this is not the same issue but if it is it will save you an awful 
lot of time trying to figure it out.

We also saw the issue Jezz mentioned with two MAC addresses.  That was easier 
to overcome!

Mark

Wireless Service Manager
IT Services, University of Bristol

On 22 July 2015 at 17:48, Bahr, Deb db...@coe.edumailto:db...@coe.edu wrote:
I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and am 
seeing the following error:

Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP is 
wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then continue 
this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.
I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects flawlessly. 
  I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.
Has anyone else ran into this issue?

--
Deb Bahr
Department of Information Technology
db...@.coe.eduhttp://www.coe.edu |319-399-8877tel:319-399-8877

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Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Bahr, Deb
I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and am
seeing the following error:

Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP
is wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then
continue this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.

I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects
flawlessly.   I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.

Has anyone else ran into this issue?

-- 

*Deb Bahr*Department of Information Technology
db...@.coe.edu http://www.coe.edu |*319-399-8877*

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Oliver Elliott
It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:

  Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s
 getting fair amount of use with communications efforts.



 *Lee Badman* | Network Architect

 Information Technology Services
 206 Machinery Hall
 120 Smith Drive
 Syracuse, New York 13244

 *t* 315.443.3003  * f* 315.443.4325   *e* lhbad...@syr.edu *w* its.syr.edu

 *SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY*
 syr.edu



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Wang, Yu
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising



 When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in
 university’s newsletter ‘State’.



 http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf



 ITS put up webpages for eduroam:



 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam





 ITS also made an announcement to university’s mailing list, nolenet:



 ===Copy of announcement
 email==

 *[image: cid:image001.png@01CF6075.92191070]*


 In March 2014, Information Technology Services (ITS) joined eduroam, a
 free, secure, worldwide Internet access service that allows members to
 easily connect their mobile device to Wi-Fi when visiting other
 participating institutions. Please share this information with researchers,
 staff and students in your unit who may be traveling away from Florida
 State University this summer.

 *When*
 Available now

 *What*
 FSU faculty, staff and students can now connect to wireless Internet at
 thousands of participating universities around the globe at no charge. As a
 reciprocal service, campus visitors, including researchers and
 international students, from other participating institutions enjoy free
 wireless access when visiting Florida State.

 *Impact*
 Whether a researcher traveling overseas, an employee attending a regional
 symposium or a student studying abroad, all Florida State faculty, staff
 and students can access immediate Internet connectivity at any
 participating institution, and all guests from participating institutions
 can access secure Wi-Fi at Florida State without any special provisioning
 or preparation.

 *Details*
 Setup and login instructions for eduroam can be found on the ITS website
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam. The eduroam
 network at Florida State is available only to guests. Florida State users
 should continue to use FSU’s existing wireless networks, FSUSecure, when on
 main campus, and eduroam when they travel. A complete list of more than
 5,000 participating institutions throughout the United States and worldwide
 can be found online at www.eduroam.org.
  http://monitor.eduroam.org/eduroam_map.php?type=all
 Find out more about eduroam by visiting the ITS eduroam Web page
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam.

 *Questions?*
 We’re here to help. Submit a support request
 http://servicecenter.fsu.edu/ or contact the ITS Service Desk at
 http://its.fsu.edu/ITS-Service-Desk or 850-644-HELP(4357).

 end of copy==



 We broadcast SSID ‘eduroam’ alongside with ‘FSUSecure’. Since eduroam is
 alphabetically ahead of FSUSecure, users searching for wireless will always
 see eduroam listed at top.







 Yu Wang

 Core, ITS

 The Florida State University

 Tallahassee, FL 32306



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Higgins, Benjamin
 John
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:49 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising



 Fellow WIRELESS-LANers:



 We have successfully rolled out eduroam to our campus.  However,
 everything we have tried to educate our campus appears to have fallen on
 deaf ears.  We still have large amounts of “Can I please have guest access”
 requests – even when we know they are coming from an institution that has
 eduroam.



 Has anyone mounted a successful campaign to educate their campus about
 eduroam?  Does anyone have flyers, marketing material, digital signage
 graphics that they are willing to share?



 Thank you very much!



 --ben



 --
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 Network Engineer   |  Office 508.831.4860
 Worcester Polytechnic Institute|  Cell   508.713.1739



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RE: SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

2015-07-22 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
I have not seen this here at Liberty University with our Aruba 6.3.1.16 
network. We will be moving to 6.4 soon.

In fact, I use a Surface Pro 3 as my daily computer.

​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure  Media Solutions

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: David Gillett [mailto:gillettda...@fhda.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

  Anybody else seen this?  I’ve seen devices reconnect to the sane SSID as a 
previous session, and I believe I’ve seen them connect to an SSID that was “the 
only one visible.”  But twice now, I’ve seen my Surface Pro 3, in the midst of 
logging in to our “primary” SSID, suddenly bring up the login page for our 
secondary “guest” Wi-Fi service, to which it had never previously been 
connected….
  Is this a Windpws 8.1 (mis)feature?  An Aruba bug?  A quirk of the wireless 
interface chip Microsoft chose to use in he Surface Pro 3?
   Or perhaps something else, stranger than I can imagine?

David Gillett CISSP CCNP

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
I always make a point to interview students and faculty about eduroam during my 
travels or in my town if the opportunity arises

These interviewees are from eduroam enabled Universities and Colleges from 
around the world and are rarely aware of the service.
My last interview was with a Canadian student from McGill who spent one month 
traveling European Cities
…she was bummed to learn on her way back home in line at the airport that she 
missed on that great opportunity considering that free Wi-FI
hotspots are not always easy to find. Now she knows !

IT departments turn eduroam on and the communication to the University 
community is highly variable depending on the school.
I know that Clemson University uses eduroam as their primary secure SSID and 
did a massive information campaign. As a result we saw a lot of Clemson
authentications in our logs showing that the Clemson Community used the service 
when traveling.

What is the right approach to inform the community about eduroam? (here are 
potential suggestions)

-Include a paragraph in the “orientation” material (my son did his school 
orientation last month and was puzzled that the Wireless section had nothing on 
eduroam and its roaming benefit)
-Let the study abroad office know about eduroam and advertise for the service 
in that office
-Do a mass email (not always popular and will have to be repeated until eduroam 
becomes part of the knowhow)
-Include it in the University media (also needs to be repeated until it becomes 
part of the knowhow)

What else?

The most successful approach that we have seen is using eduroam as primary SSID 
but not every school is willing or ready to do so, and even in that case the 
communication
about the roaming aspect has to be done properly!

Once you enable eduroam for your campus, definitely ask your communication 
department if they can help you spread the word.
(there is some customizable material for your school at www.eduroam.org 
http://www.eduroam.org/…click on Media  Logo (left hand side)

 Best,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us



 On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
 
 Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With dozens 
 of thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange SSID is one 
 more facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need it 
 (single-digit percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just fine. 
 Our travelers also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our branded 
 SSID when home.
  
  
 -Lee
  
 Lee Badman | Network Architect
 
 Information Technology Services
 206 Machinery Hall
 120 Smith Drive
 Syracuse, New York 13244
 
 t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
 mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu http://its.syr.edu/
 SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
 syr.edu http://syr.edu/
  
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising
  
 It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
 SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?
  
 On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu 
 mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
 Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s getting 
 fair amount of use with communications efforts.
  
 Lee Badman | Network Architect
 
 Information Technology Services
 206 Machinery Hall
 120 Smith Drive
 Syracuse, New York 13244
 
 t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
 mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu http://its.syr.edu/
 SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
 syr.edu http://syr.edu/
  
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising
  
 When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in 
 university’s newsletter ‘State’.
  
 http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf 
 http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf
  
 ITS put up webpages for eduroam:
  
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam 
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam
  
  
 ITS also made an announcement to university’s mailing list, nolenet:
  
 ===Copy of announcement 
 email==
 image001.png
 
 In March 2014, Information Technology Services (ITS) joined eduroam, a free, 
 secure, worldwide Internet access service that allows members to easily 
 connect their mobile device to Wi-Fi when visiting other 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Turner, Ryan H
My feeling is that most of the clients we serve are going to take the past of 
least resistance.  Taking the time to onboard a second SSID is likely not going 
to happen for the majority of clients until it is the primary SSID.We 
ultimately decided that a the branding decision wasn’t the overweighing 
concern, here, but that obviously is going to vary wildly from institution to 
institution.  We will likely have over 60,000 wireless clients connecting every 
day to eduroam, and I think that is the ultimate advertising campaign.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:16 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With dozens of 
thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange SSID is one more 
facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need it (single-digit 
percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just fine. Our travelers 
also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our branded SSID when home.


-Lee

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman 
lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s getting 
fair amount of use with communications efforts.

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.eduhttp://its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.eduhttp://syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in university’s 
newsletter ‘State’.

http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf

ITS put up webpages for eduroam:

http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam


ITS also made an announcement to university’s mailing list, nolenet:

===Copy of announcement 
email==
[cid:image001.png@01CF6075.92191070]

In March 2014, Information Technology Services (ITS) joined eduroam, a free, 
secure, worldwide Internet access service that allows members to easily connect 
their mobile device to Wi-Fi when visiting other participating institutions. 
Please share this information with researchers, staff and students in your unit 
who may be traveling away from Florida State University this summer.

When
Available now

What
FSU faculty, staff and students can now connect to wireless Internet at 
thousands of participating universities around the globe at no charge. As a 
reciprocal service, campus visitors, including researchers and international 
students, from other participating institutions enjoy free wireless access when 
visiting Florida State.

Impact
Whether a researcher traveling overseas, an employee attending a regional 
symposium or a student studying abroad, all Florida State faculty, staff and 
students can access immediate Internet connectivity at any participating 
institution, and all guests from participating institutions can access secure 
Wi-Fi at Florida State without any special provisioning or preparation.

Details
Setup and login instructions for eduroam can be found on the ITS 
websitehttp://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam. The eduroam 
network at Florida State is available only to guests. Florida State users 
should continue to use FSU’s existing wireless networks, FSUSecure, when on 
main campus, and eduroam when they travel. A complete list of more than 5,000 
participating institutions throughout the United States and worldwide can be 
found online at www.eduroam.org.
http://monitor.eduroam.org/eduroam_map.php?type=all

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
We are doing dual-SSID enrollment, so anyone who configures their
device to work on our branded SSID will also be configured to work on
eduroam.  While this doesn't help get the word out, it does mean if
people travel with their device, it should just connect automatically
and start working.

I was pleasently surprised when my phone connected at a university in
Turkey last month :-)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 09:29:12AM -0400, Philippe Hanset wrote:
 I always make a point to interview students and faculty about eduroam during 
 my travels or in my town if the opportunity arises
 
 These interviewees are from eduroam enabled Universities and Colleges from 
 around the world and are rarely aware of the service.
 My last interview was with a Canadian student from McGill who spent one month 
 traveling European Cities
 …she was bummed to learn on her way back home in line at the airport that she 
 missed on that great opportunity considering that free Wi-FI
 hotspots are not always easy to find. Now she knows !
 
 IT departments turn eduroam on and the communication to the University 
 community is highly variable depending on the school.
 I know that Clemson University uses eduroam as their primary secure SSID and 
 did a massive information campaign. As a result we saw a lot of Clemson
 authentications in our logs showing that the Clemson Community used the 
 service when traveling.
 
 What is the right approach to inform the community about eduroam? (here are 
 potential suggestions)
 
 -Include a paragraph in the “orientation” material (my son did his school 
 orientation last month and was puzzled that the Wireless section had nothing 
 on eduroam and its roaming benefit)
 -Let the study abroad office know about eduroam and advertise for the service 
 in that office
 -Do a mass email (not always popular and will have to be repeated until 
 eduroam becomes part of the knowhow)
 -Include it in the University media (also needs to be repeated until it 
 becomes part of the knowhow)
 
 What else?
 
 The most successful approach that we have seen is using eduroam as primary 
 SSID but not every school is willing or ready to do so, and even in that case 
 the communication
 about the roaming aspect has to be done properly!
 
 Once you enable eduroam for your campus, definitely ask your communication 
 department if they can help you spread the word.
 (there is some customizable material for your school at www.eduroam.org 
 http://www.eduroam.org/…click on Media  Logo (left hand side)
 
  Best,
 
 Philippe
 
 Philippe Hanset
 www.eduroam.us
 
 
 
  On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
  
  Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With 
  dozens of thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange 
  SSID is one more facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need 
  it (single-digit percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just 
  fine. Our travelers also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our 
  branded SSID when home.
   
   
  -Lee
   
  Lee Badman | Network Architect
  
  Information Technology Services
  206 Machinery Hall
  120 Smith Drive
  Syracuse, New York 13244
  
  t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
  mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu http://its.syr.edu/
  SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
  syr.edu http://syr.edu/
   
  From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
  [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
  mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
  To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
  mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
  Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising
   
  It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
  SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?
   
  On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu 
  mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
  Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s 
  getting fair amount of use with communications efforts.
   
  Lee Badman | Network Architect
  
  Information Technology Services
  206 Machinery Hall
  120 Smith Drive
  Syracuse, New York 13244
  
  t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
  mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu http://its.syr.edu/
  SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
  syr.edu http://syr.edu/
   
  From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
  [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
  mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
  Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
  To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
  mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
  Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising
   
  When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in 
  university’s newsletter ‘State’.
   
  http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf 
  

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

2015-07-22 Thread Chuck Enfield
I’m having similar problem on a Win7 SP1 laptop.  When I enable my wireless 
adapter it connects to our guest network instead of our 802.1X network.  The 
order of the profiles in the network list doesn’t matter, and even deleting 
the guest network profile doesn’t help.  Once I manually choose the 1x 
network it doesn’t generally “jump” to guest, but I recall that happening at 
least once.  My theory was that my connection dropped, giving my machine a 
chance to exercise its newly-found preference for the guest network over all 
others.  I don’t have this problem on any other devices, and I haven’t heard 
any reports from anybody else yet, so I assumed my laptop was the problem. 
That said, the laptop was problem-free for years.  If the problem coincided 
with an AOS upgrade, I failed to make the connection.



When I thought this was just a problem with my laptop I opted to work around 
it, but maybe it deserves some attention.  Windows devices make up a modest 
percentage of our wireless clients, so others could be having the same 
experience and word just hasn’t reached me yet.  I’ll get a packet capture 
next time I put this device on the Wi-Fi.  If I turn up anything suspicious 
I’ll post to the group.



Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless Systems  Engineering

Telecommunications  Networking Services

The Pennsylvania State University

110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802

ph: 814.863.8715

fx: 814.865.3988



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Services)
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on 
Aruba



I have not seen this here at Liberty University with our Aruba 6.3.1.16 
network. We will be moving to 6.4 soon.



In fact, I use a Surface Pro 3 as my daily computer.







Bruce Osborne

Wireless Engineer

IT Infrastructure  Media Solutions



(434) 592-4229



LIBERTY UNIVERSITY

Training Champions for Christ since 1971



From: David Gillett [mailto:gillettda...@fhda.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba



  Anybody else seen this?  I’ve seen devices reconnect to the sane SSID as a 
previous session, and I believe I’ve seen them connect to an SSID that was 
“the only one visible.”  But twice now, I’ve seen my Surface Pro 3, in the 
midst of logging in to our “primary” SSID, suddenly bring up the login page 
for our secondary “guest” Wi-Fi service, to which it had never previously 
been connected….
  Is this a Windpws 8.1 (mis)feature?  An Aruba bug?  A quirk of the 
wireless interface chip Microsoft chose to use in he Surface Pro 3?

   Or perhaps something else, stranger than I can imagine?



David Gillett CISSP CCNP



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Jason Cook
We considered eduroam as a Primary however we had two RF neighbours at the time 
(in 2007 and for a short period there we ran eduoram-UofA for our eduroam SSID) 
so this was not ideal. We are now upto 4 RF neighbours at varying locations and 
are potentially going to be in a position where there are 5-6 institutions 
offering the service in an area. Certainly this is something to consider.

Branding is also something we like to have, it stands out to users and guests 
as the obvious place.

For onboarding we have been using Cloudpaths’ Xpress Connect, but we should be 
going live very soon with Enrolment System and with this we are configuring 
both our branded and eduroam SSID’s.

Advertising wise we often find it hard to get approval to advertise things like 
this (too noisy they say for an all staff and/or student email). One method we 
have used in the past is Survey’s, we offer a couple of $100 vouchers or 
something randomly selected. We ask people for feedback in general on wireless, 
report upto 5 locations where they have coverage/connectivity issues, perhaps 
ask about documentation and often a question like “Did you know that eduroam 
allows you to login to other enabled institutions  using your UofA 
credentials?” Yes/No find out more “insert web link”.

We also have University newsletters etc etc, so getting a message in there 
every now and then helps too.

Without a blanket email we can hit up everyone, but there’s way’s to gradually 
increase awareness



--
Jason Cook
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 11:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

My feeling is that most of the clients we serve are going to take the past of 
least resistance.  Taking the time to onboard a second SSID is likely not going 
to happen for the majority of clients until it is the primary SSID.We 
ultimately decided that a the branding decision wasn’t the overweighing 
concern, here, but that obviously is going to vary wildly from institution to 
institution.  We will likely have over 60,000 wireless clients connecting every 
day to eduroam, and I think that is the ultimate advertising campaign.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:16 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With dozens of 
thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange SSID is one more 
facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need it (single-digit 
percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just fine. Our travelers 
also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our branded SSID when home.


-Lee

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman 
lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s getting 
fair amount of use with communications efforts.

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.eduhttp://its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.eduhttp://syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in university’s 
newsletter ‘State’.

http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf

ITS put up webpages for eduroam:

http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam

Re: eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Green, William C
Philippe,

What is the support status of eduroam and 802.11u?

That might address some SSID related issues.



--
William C. Green  e-mail:  gr...@austin.utexas.edu
Director, Networking and Telecommunications   phone:   +1 512-475-9295
ITS (Information Technology Services) fax: +1 512-471-2449
University of Texas
1 University Station Stop C3800
Austin, TX  78712

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
William,

eduroam already has a Roaming Consortium OUI registered with IEEE, so 
potentially
it is ready. Interoperability and readiness of campuses and equipment might 
take some time though.

Indeed, PassPoint/HotSpot2.0 (802.11u is now part of 802.11) will address SSID 
related issues!

Best,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.anyroam.net



 On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Green, William C gr...@austin.utexas.edu wrote:
 
 Philippe,
 
 What is the support status of eduroam and 802.11u?
 
 That might address some SSID related issues.
 
 
 
 --
 William C. Green  e-mail:  gr...@austin.utexas.edu
 Director, Networking and Telecommunications   phone:   +1 512-475-9295
 ITS (Information Technology Services) fax: +1 512-471-2449
 University of Texas
 1 University Station Stop C3800
 Austin, TX  78712
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Frank Sweetser
We may eventually move towards only setting up eduroam for personal devices, 
but we plan on keeping our branded SSID around for domain machines.  We need it 
to handle machine authentication, rather than having it only work on our local 
eduroam SSID and throwing off noise anywhere else.

Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On July 22, 2015 3:53:52 AM EDT, Oliver Elliott oliver.elli...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:
It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your
primary
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:

  Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s
 getting fair amount of use with communications efforts.



 *Lee Badman* | Network Architect

 Information Technology Services
 206 Machinery Hall
 120 Smith Drive
 Syracuse, New York 13244

 *t* 315.443.3003  * f* 315.443.4325   *e* lhbad...@syr.edu *w*
its.syr.edu

 *SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY*
 syr.edu



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Wang, Yu
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising



 When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in
 university’s newsletter ‘State’.



 http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf



 ITS put up webpages for eduroam:



 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam





 ITS also made an announcement to university’s mailing list, nolenet:



 ===Copy of announcement
 email==

 *[image: cid:image001.png@01CF6075.92191070]*


 In March 2014, Information Technology Services (ITS) joined eduroam,
a
 free, secure, worldwide Internet access service that allows members
to
 easily connect their mobile device to Wi-Fi when visiting other
 participating institutions. Please share this information with
researchers,
 staff and students in your unit who may be traveling away from
Florida
 State University this summer.

 *When*
 Available now

 *What*
 FSU faculty, staff and students can now connect to wireless Internet
at
 thousands of participating universities around the globe at no
charge. As a
 reciprocal service, campus visitors, including researchers and
 international students, from other participating institutions enjoy
free
 wireless access when visiting Florida State.

 *Impact*
 Whether a researcher traveling overseas, an employee attending a
regional
 symposium or a student studying abroad, all Florida State faculty,
staff
 and students can access immediate Internet connectivity at any
 participating institution, and all guests from participating
institutions
 can access secure Wi-Fi at Florida State without any special
provisioning
 or preparation.

 *Details*
 Setup and login instructions for eduroam can be found on the ITS
website
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam. The
eduroam
 network at Florida State is available only to guests. Florida State
users
 should continue to use FSU’s existing wireless networks, FSUSecure,
when on
 main campus, and eduroam when they travel. A complete list of more
than
 5,000 participating institutions throughout the United States and
worldwide
 can be found online at www.eduroam.org.
  http://monitor.eduroam.org/eduroam_map.php?type=all
 Find out more about eduroam by visiting the ITS eduroam Web page
 http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam.

 *Questions?*
 We’re here to help. Submit a support request
 http://servicecenter.fsu.edu/ or contact the ITS Service Desk at
 http://its.fsu.edu/ITS-Service-Desk or 850-644-HELP(4357).

 end of copy==



 We broadcast SSID ‘eduroam’ alongside with ‘FSUSecure’. Since eduroam
is
 alphabetically ahead of FSUSecure, users searching for wireless will
always
 see eduroam listed at top.







 Yu Wang

 Core, ITS

 The Florida State University

 Tallahassee, FL 32306



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Higgins,
Benjamin
 John
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:49 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising



 Fellow WIRELESS-LANers:



 We have successfully rolled out eduroam to our campus.  However,
 everything we have tried to educate our campus appears to have fallen
on
 deaf ears.  We still have large amounts of “Can I please have guest
access”
 requests – even when we know they are coming from an institution that
has
 eduroam.



 Has anyone mounted a successful campaign to educate their campus
about
 eduroam?  Does anyone have flyers, marketing material, digital
signage
 graphics that they are willing to share?



 Thank you very much!



 --ben



 --

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AIR-CAP2702E could not discover WLC

2015-07-22 Thread Jake Snyder
2702s have had a number of issues, both I and E models depending on when they 
were manufactured.  There were a couple of months where APs were getting a bad 
image.  I haven't seen many I models lately, but E models don't get sold in as 
high of volume.  

There have been issues with both DHCP and DNS discovery not working, as well as 
the AP sending the AUX port MAC address in the discovery.

My experience has been that you can do a few things to help.  Configure both 
DNS and DHCP (Opt43) methods of controller discovery.  If that doesn't work, 
the ip helper/forward protocol discovery method helps when you can't put the AP 
on the WLC management address. Barring either of those, just configuring the AP 
via the serial cable generally works, but is less scalable and more labor 
intensive.

Hope this helps

Jake

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Bahr, Deb db...@coe.edu wrote:
 
 I am trying to deploy the 2702E AP's with 5508 wireless controllers and am 
 seeing the following error:
 
 Could not discover WLC.  Either IP address is not assigned or assigned IP is 
 wrong.  Renewing DHCP IP.  It will receive an IP address, and then continue 
 this error message and keep trying to renew DHCP IP.
 
 I can connect a AIR-CAP2702I to the same PoE switch and it connects 
 flawlessly.   I'm not sure why the 2702I will work and not the 2702E.
 
 Has anyone else ran into this issue?
 
 -- 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
Hello Matt,

Good question! (and hard to deal with)

We have encountered 3 ways so far (if anyone has others, please share) to deal 
with the eduroam SSID overlap issue.
(some refer to this overlap issue as “The Russell Square Problem” in previous 
eduroam presentations)

1) Have a SSID in the form eduroam-* (as Jason Cook highlighted in his 
response). It is accepted by the eduroam consortium
but it is neither pretty nor convenient or expandable (read: multiple 
profiles on devices, user confusion, and as Jason mentioned it doesn’t work 
well beyond one or two exceptions)

2) Share VLANs between institutions

3) Use IP Mobility solutions (many available, some proprietary, some standard)

2) and 3) require quite a bit of work in the background but generate a better 
user experience than 1)


Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us



 On Jul 22, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Nocifore,Matthew m...@drexel.edu wrote:
 
 Excellent message Philippe.  Thanks. 
 
 Always many factors to consider when selecting or changing a primary ssid. If 
 you are considering eduroam as your primary ssid, you may want to consider if 
 you have any campus borders that might currently or in the future hear 
 eduroam from nearby rf neighbors.  Certainly more of an issue in urban 
 environments.
 
 In Philadelphia, Drexel University and University of Pennsylvania share an 
 urban campus border where we hear each others radios.  Both institutions also 
 lease space in a University City Science Center complex (kind of like a colo 
 facility for science and innovation)  and we have identified spaces where 
 building occupants can bounce between eduroam networks from each institution. 
  
 
 Lets just say joint management of such issues is easier and perhaps a less 
 urgent priority when your primary campus ssid isn't impacted by the overlap. 
 :-)
 
 Maybe Philippe has some good stories for us about multi-campus eduroam 
 collaborations!
 
 
 On Jul 22, 2015 (Wed), at 9:29 AM, Philippe Hanset wrote:
 
 I always make a point to interview students and faculty about eduroam during 
 my travels or in my town if the opportunity arises
 
 These interviewees are from eduroam enabled Universities and Colleges from 
 around the world and are rarely aware of the service.
 My last interview was with a Canadian student from McGill who spent one 
 month traveling European Cities
 …she was bummed to learn on her way back home in line at the airport that 
 she missed on that great opportunity considering that free Wi-FI
 hotspots are not always easy to find. Now she knows !
 
 IT departments turn eduroam on and the communication to the University 
 community is highly variable depending on the school.
 I know that Clemson University uses eduroam as their primary secure SSID and 
 did a massive information campaign. As a result we saw a lot of Clemson
 authentications in our logs showing that the Clemson Community used the 
 service when traveling.
 
 What is the right approach to inform the community about eduroam? (here are 
 potential suggestions)
 
 -Include a paragraph in the “orientation” material (my son did his school 
 orientation last month and was puzzled that the Wireless section had nothing 
 on eduroam and its roaming benefit)
 -Let the study abroad office know about eduroam and advertise for the 
 service in that office
 -Do a mass email (not always popular and will have to be repeated until 
 eduroam becomes part of the knowhow)
 -Include it in the University media (also needs to be repeated until it 
 becomes part of the knowhow)
 
 What else?
 
 The most successful approach that we have seen is using eduroam as primary 
 SSID but not every school is willing or ready to do so, and even in that 
 case the communication
 about the roaming aspect has to be done properly!
 
 Once you enable eduroam for your campus, definitely ask your communication 
 department if they can help you spread the word.
 (there is some customizable material for your school at www.eduroam.org 
 http://www.eduroam.org/…click on Media  Logo (left hand side)
 
  Best,
 
 Philippe
 
 Philippe Hanset
 www.eduroam.us http://www.eduroam.us/
 
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

2015-07-22 Thread Kevin McCormick

Not sure if this will help at all.

With Cisco the surface will not connect to a secure SSID with PMF dot1x 
set as optional.


We had to disable PMF dot1x and only use dot1x.

There are some strange issues with the wireless on the Surface.

Kevin McCormick
Western Illinois University

On 7/21/2015 3:37 PM, David Gillett wrote:


  Anybody else seen this?*I’ve seen devices reconnect to the sane SSID 
as a previous session, and I believe I’ve seen them connect to an SSID 
that was “the only one visible.”  But twice now, I’ve seen my Surface 
Pro 3, in the midst of logging in to our “primary” SSID, suddenly 
bring up the login page for our secondary “guest” Wi-Fi service, to 
which it had never previously been connected….
  Is this a Windpws 8.1 (mis)feature?  An Aruba bug?  A quirk of the 
wireless interface chip Microsoft chose to use in he Surface Pro 3? *


  Or perhaps something else, stranger than I can imagine?

David Gillett CISSP CCNP

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Nocifore,Matthew
Excellent message Philippe.  Thanks.

Always many factors to consider when selecting or changing a primary ssid. If 
you are considering eduroam as your primary ssid, you may want to consider if 
you have any campus borders that might currently or in the future hear eduroam 
from nearby rf neighbors.  Certainly more of an issue in urban environments.

In Philadelphia, Drexel University and University of Pennsylvania share an 
urban campus border where we hear each others radios.  Both institutions also 
lease space in a University City Science Center complex (kind of like a colo 
facility for science and innovation)  and we have identified spaces where 
building occupants can bounce between eduroam networks from each institution.

Lets just say joint management of such issues is easier and perhaps a less 
urgent priority when your primary campus ssid isn't impacted by the overlap. :-)

Maybe Philippe has some good stories for us about multi-campus eduroam 
collaborations!


On Jul 22, 2015 (Wed), at 9:29 AM, Philippe Hanset wrote:

I always make a point to interview students and faculty about eduroam during my 
travels or in my town if the opportunity arises

These interviewees are from eduroam enabled Universities and Colleges from 
around the world and are rarely aware of the service.
My last interview was with a Canadian student from McGill who spent one month 
traveling European Cities
…she was bummed to learn on her way back home in line at the airport that she 
missed on that great opportunity considering that free Wi-FI
hotspots are not always easy to find. Now she knows !

IT departments turn eduroam on and the communication to the University 
community is highly variable depending on the school.
I know that Clemson University uses eduroam as their primary secure SSID and 
did a massive information campaign. As a result we saw a lot of Clemson
authentications in our logs showing that the Clemson Community used the service 
when traveling.

What is the right approach to inform the community about eduroam? (here are 
potential suggestions)

-Include a paragraph in the “orientation” material (my son did his school 
orientation last month and was puzzled that the Wireless section had nothing on 
eduroam and its roaming benefit)
-Let the study abroad office know about eduroam and advertise for the service 
in that office
-Do a mass email (not always popular and will have to be repeated until eduroam 
becomes part of the knowhow)
-Include it in the University media (also needs to be repeated until it becomes 
part of the knowhow)

What else?

The most successful approach that we have seen is using eduroam as primary SSID 
but not every school is willing or ready to do so, and even in that case the 
communication
about the roaming aspect has to be done properly!

Once you enable eduroam for your campus, definitely ask your communication 
department if they can help you spread the word.
(there is some customizable material for your school at 
www.eduroam.orghttp://www.eduroam.org/…click on Media  Logo (left hand side)

 Best,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us/



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Wang, Yu
Our No. 1 eduroam visiting institute is Clemson University, based on unique IDs 
(They don’t use random outer tunnel IDs) authenticated. The distance second is 
UF.

I knew our initial advertising reached our audience when I saw first FSU 
employee used eduroam away was an English major professor and first FSU student 
was a Spanish major student. The eduroam information was brought to us by a 
Computer Science professor who travels and teaches overseas.


Yu Wang
Core, ITS
The Florida State University
Tallahassee, FL 32306

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:29 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

I always make a point to interview students and faculty about eduroam during my 
travels or in my town if the opportunity arises

These interviewees are from eduroam enabled Universities and Colleges from 
around the world and are rarely aware of the service.
My last interview was with a Canadian student from McGill who spent one month 
traveling European Cities
…she was bummed to learn on her way back home in line at the airport that she 
missed on that great opportunity considering that free Wi-FI
hotspots are not always easy to find. Now she knows !

IT departments turn eduroam on and the communication to the University 
community is highly variable depending on the school.
I know that Clemson University uses eduroam as their primary secure SSID and 
did a massive information campaign. As a result we saw a lot of Clemson
authentications in our logs showing that the Clemson Community used the service 
when traveling.

What is the right approach to inform the community about eduroam? (here are 
potential suggestions)

-Include a paragraph in the “orientation” material (my son did his school 
orientation last month and was puzzled that the Wireless section had nothing on 
eduroam and its roaming benefit)
-Let the study abroad office know about eduroam and advertise for the service 
in that office
-Do a mass email (not always popular and will have to be repeated until eduroam 
becomes part of the knowhow)
-Include it in the University media (also needs to be repeated until it becomes 
part of the knowhow)

What else?

The most successful approach that we have seen is using eduroam as primary SSID 
but not every school is willing or ready to do so, and even in that case the 
communication
about the roaming aspect has to be done properly!

Once you enable eduroam for your campus, definitely ask your communication 
department if they can help you spread the word.
(there is some customizable material for your school at 
www.eduroam.orghttp://www.eduroam.org…click on Media  Logo (left hand side)

 Best,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us



On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Lee H Badman 
lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:

Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With dozens of 
thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange SSID is one more 
facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need it (single-digit 
percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just fine. Our travelers 
also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our branded SSID when home.


-Lee

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.eduhttp://its.syr.edu/
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.eduhttp://syr.edu/

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman 
lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s getting 
fair amount of use with communications efforts.

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.eduhttp://its.syr.edu/
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.eduhttp://syr.edu/

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in university’s 

RE: SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

2015-07-22 Thread Hinson, Matthew P
I’ve seen my test laptop (Latitude D630 + Intel 7260-AC) with Windows 10 Tech 
Preview on it do this. I think the enabled-by-default Wi-Fi Sense feature that 
seeks out open Wi-Fi is the culprit, at least for me.

 

I really have to question the logic of having a computer auto-connect to any 
unsecured network that it comes across…. After connecting to our .1X network, 
it usually stays there, but at first boot if the EAP auth takes more than a few 
seconds it gives up and goes for the guest network even though I’ve deleted the 
profile for said guest network.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Enfield
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:03 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

 

I’m having similar problem on a Win7 SP1 laptop.  When I enable my wireless 
adapter it connects to our guest network instead of our 802.1X network.  The 
order of the profiles in the network list doesn’t matter, and even deleting the 
guest network profile doesn’t help.  Once I manually choose the 1x network it 
doesn’t generally “jump” to guest, but I recall that happening at least once.  
My theory was that my connection dropped, giving my machine a chance to 
exercise its newly-found preference for the guest network over all others.  I 
don’t have this problem on any other devices, and I haven’t heard any reports 
from anybody else yet, so I assumed my laptop was the problem.  That said, the 
laptop was problem-free for years.  If the problem coincided with an AOS 
upgrade, I failed to make the connection.

 

When I thought this was just a problem with my laptop I opted to work around 
it, but maybe it deserves some attention.  Windows devices make up a modest 
percentage of our wireless clients, so others could be having the same 
experience and word just hasn’t reached me yet.  I’ll get a packet capture next 
time I put this device on the Wi-Fi.  If I turn up anything suspicious I’ll 
post to the group.

 

Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless Systems  Engineering

Telecommunications  Networking Services

The Pennsylvania State University

110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802

ph: 814.863.8715

fx: 814.865.3988

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Services)
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

 

I have not seen this here at Liberty University with our Aruba 6.3.1.16 
network. We will be moving to 6.4 soon.

 

In fact, I use a Surface Pro 3 as my daily computer.

 

​

 

Bruce Osborne

Wireless Engineer

IT Infrastructure  Media Solutions

 

(434) 592-4229

 

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY

Training Champions for Christ since 1971

 

From: David Gillett [mailto:gillettda...@fhda.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: SSID jumping with Win 8.1 (Surface Pro 3) on Aruba

 

  Anybody else seen this?  I’ve seen devices reconnect to the sane SSID as a 
previous session, and I believe I’ve seen them connect to an SSID that was “the 
only one visible.”  But twice now, I’ve seen my Surface Pro 3, in the midst of 
logging in to our “primary” SSID, suddenly bring up the login page for our 
secondary “guest” Wi-Fi service, to which it had never previously been 
connected….
  Is this a Windpws 8.1 (mis)feature?  An Aruba bug?  A quirk of the wireless 
interface chip Microsoft chose to use in he Surface Pro 3?  



 

   Or perhaps something else, stranger than I can imagine?

 

David Gillett CISSP CCNP

 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

2015-07-22 Thread Lee H Badman
Branding. “Orange” is deeply embedded in our University culture. With dozens of 
thousands of wireless clients on the network daily, AirOrange SSID is one more 
facet of that culture. Eduroam is there for those who need it (single-digit 
percentage of all users), and they tend to find it just fine. Our travelers 
also have no issue using eduroam when away, and our branded SSID when home.


-Lee

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:54 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

It would be interesting to hear why you wouldn't make eduroam your primary 
SSID, is it technical reasons or one of branding?

On 21 July 2015 at 20:39, Lee H Badman 
lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
Similar here. No desire to move to eduroam as primary SSID, but it’s getting 
fair amount of use with communications efforts.

Lee Badman | Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.eduhttp://its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.eduhttp://syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Wang, Yu
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

When we rolled out eduroam, our ITS PR Team published the news in university’s 
newsletter ‘State’.

http://unicomm.fsu.edu/documents/state/state-2014-03-31.pdf

ITS put up webpages for eduroam:

http://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam


ITS also made an announcement to university’s mailing list, nolenet:

===Copy of announcement 
email==
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In March 2014, Information Technology Services (ITS) joined eduroam, a free, 
secure, worldwide Internet access service that allows members to easily connect 
their mobile device to Wi-Fi when visiting other participating institutions. 
Please share this information with researchers, staff and students in your unit 
who may be traveling away from Florida State University this summer.

When
Available now

What
FSU faculty, staff and students can now connect to wireless Internet at 
thousands of participating universities around the globe at no charge. As a 
reciprocal service, campus visitors, including researchers and international 
students, from other participating institutions enjoy free wireless access when 
visiting Florida State.

Impact
Whether a researcher traveling overseas, an employee attending a regional 
symposium or a student studying abroad, all Florida State faculty, staff and 
students can access immediate Internet connectivity at any participating 
institution, and all guests from participating institutions can access secure 
Wi-Fi at Florida State without any special provisioning or preparation.

Details
Setup and login instructions for eduroam can be found on the ITS 
websitehttp://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam. The eduroam 
network at Florida State is available only to guests. Florida State users 
should continue to use FSU’s existing wireless networks, FSUSecure, when on 
main campus, and eduroam when they travel. A complete list of more than 5,000 
participating institutions throughout the United States and worldwide can be 
found online at www.eduroam.org.
http://monitor.eduroam.org/eduroam_map.php?type=all
Find out more about eduroam by visiting the ITS eduroam Web 
pagehttp://its.fsu.edu/Network/NetworkMainCampus/WiFi/eduroam.

Questions?
We’re here to help. Submit a support requesthttp://servicecenter.fsu.edu/ or 
contact the ITS Service Desk at http://its.fsu.edu/ITS-Service-Desk or 
850-644-HELP(4357).

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We broadcast SSID ‘eduroam’ alongside with ‘FSUSecure’. Since eduroam is 
alphabetically ahead of FSUSecure, users searching for wireless will always see 
eduroam listed at top.



Yu Wang
Core, ITS
The Florida State University
Tallahassee, FL 32306

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Higgins, Benjamin John
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:49 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam Advertising

Fellow WIRELESS-LANers:

We have successfully rolled out eduroam to our