Re: [WSG] close to pixel perfect ...
Pete, Would someone mind checking this out for me: http://universalhead.com/ataglance/work_test.html CSS athttp://universalhead.com/ataglance/c/aag.css No matter what I do, the left column of info (div id=workmaincolumn) persists in being 3px from the right column instead of 5px in Safari and Firebird. So what doesn't it work in? -Hugh * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Print Media
Taco Fleur wrote: With a print media style sheet is it like possible to say hide everything but this one ID? Example; I have a page with many elements, but I want to only print the form elements when printing. no you can't: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#display-prop the display property none This value causes an element to generate no boxes in the formatting structure (i.e., the element has no effect on layout). Descendant elements do not generate any boxes either; this behavior *cannot* be overridden by setting the 'display' property on the descendants. i don't know how this would look in real life use but i suggest violating the specs is bad. regards, Michael -- niij http://niij.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Print Media
Taco,
If you set the page up with content inside containers, you can do exactly as
you suggest, and hide entire containers including all of their content. For
example, rather than hide all the elements within a left nav, you could
simple do:
#leftnav { display: none;}
If you page is housed in a series of containers, you could quickly hide
entire sections with a few simple rules.
Russ
I understood that, but I was more after something where I did not have to
specify every element, with a lot of elements it becomes a bit tedious to
include all of them, it would be nicer to say, hide all only display ID X.
I guess thats not possible then..
Taco Fleur
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From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 6:24 PM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: Re: [WSG] Print Media
Yep, just set all containers or elements that you don¹t need to
display: none; on the print CSS only.
You can take virtually everything off the page except the
forms, if you want...
Russ
With a print media style sheet is it like possible to say hide
everything but this one ID? Example; I have a page with many
elements, but I want to only print the form elements when printing.
Taco Fleur
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RE: [WSG] Print Media
Off course, I see what your saying, stupid I did not understand the first
time.
Cheers
Taco Fleur
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-Original Message-
From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 7:09 PM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: Re: [WSG] Print Media
Taco,
If you set the page up with content inside containers, you
can do exactly as you suggest, and hide entire containers
including all of their content. For example, rather than hide
all the elements within a left nav, you could simple do:
#leftnav { display: none;}
If you page is housed in a series of containers, you could
quickly hide entire sections with a few simple rules. Russ
I understood that, but I was more after something where I
did not have
to specify every element, with a lot of elements it becomes a bit
tedious to include all of them, it would be nicer to say, hide all
only display ID X.
I guess thats not possible then..
Taco Fleur
Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/
Methodology http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/
0421 851 786
Tell me and I will forget
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-Original Message-
From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 6:24 PM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: Re: [WSG] Print Media
Yep, just set all containers or elements that you don¹t need to
display: none; on the print CSS only.
You can take virtually everything off the page except the
forms, if
you want...
Russ
With a print media style sheet is it like possible to say hide
everything but this one ID? Example; I have a page with many
elements, but I want to only print the form elements when
printing.
Taco Fleur
Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/
http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/
Methodology http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/
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Re: [WSG] close to pixel perfect ...
Sorry, badly expressed. It doesn't work - ie the margin is 3px not 5px - in Mac Safari and Mac Mozilla. Pete, Would someone mind checking this out for me: http://universalhead.com/ataglance/work_test.html CSS athttp://universalhead.com/ataglance/c/aag.css No matter what I do, the left column of info (div id=workmaincolumn) persists in being 3px from the right column instead of 5px in Safari and Firebird. So what doesn't it work in? -Hugh -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewww.universalhead.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] close to pixel perfect ...
Universal Head wrote: Sorry, badly expressed. It doesn't work - ie the margin is 3px not 5px - in Mac Safari and Mac Mozilla. Hi Nice page. Question: will the users of Mac Mozilla and Mac Safari be turned off by the 2 pixel difference (unless it breaks the readability of the content)? They may think it's normal... HTH James Pete, Would someone mind checking this out for me: http://universalhead.com/ataglance/work_test.html CSS athttp://universalhead.com/ataglance/c/aag.css No matter what I do, the left column of info (div id=workmaincolumn) persists in being 3px from the right column instead of 5px in Safari and Firebird. So what doesn't it work in? -Hugh * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] close to pixel perfect ...
Well, they won't be turned off, but I'd love to know for two reasons: - every other margin is 5px and I'm a perfectionist. 3px stops everything from lining up correctly. - I've spent ages on the CSS and in theory it SHOULD work so I'd like to know why for future reference. Why should they read a 5px margin as 3px? Thanks Peter Nice page. Question: will the users of Mac Mozilla and Mac Safari be turned off by the 2 pixel difference (unless it breaks the readability of the content)? They may think it's normal... -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewww.universalhead.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Standardize - simple explanation of web standards
yikes, you can hardly read the text, you have to select it to have some contract for reading it. The headers and logo's hardly show up. As you said the text is to small.. And this is a good one too, http://axisfive.net/standardize/contact.php Are you sure this is their live site though? I have the feeling I have seen them before a long time ago.. Taco Fleur 07 3535 5072 Blog: http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ Methodology: http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/ Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn -Original Message- From: Lindsay Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 8:40 AM To: Webstandards Group Subject: [WSG] Standardize - simple explanation of web standards Good idea, but the hideously bad contrast of the colours, tiny default font size and the broken links make me feel that they aren't all that serious about it: http://www.axisfive.net/standardize/ -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Standardize - simple explanation of web standards
Taco Fleur wrote: Are you sure this is their live site though? I have the feeling I have seen them before a long time ago.. Looks like it's live - it's linked from http://axisfive.net/portfolio.php so I'd imagine it is :) -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] [OT] Good web host? Mine broke.
Hi, I was in the hunt for a good (cheap) web host. Explanation and replies here: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/21/ Thanks, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII User-Agent: NuralNet WebMail Client Hi Cameron, I am currently using www.phpwebhosting.com and find them very good and very cheap. I am considering going to www.dreamhost.com and they look pretty darned good. One of the best things they offer that I want is IMAP, which phpwebhosting don't have. phpwebhosting are very flexible tho, and you get unlimited subdomains, relatively unlimited transfers/databases and lots of storage, with more if you need it, so it's a tough call at this stage for me :) oh yeah, and both have shell access which is critical for me :) HTH Beau - Original Message - Hi, I was in the hunt for a good (cheap) web host. Explanation and replies here: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/21/ Thanks, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG]
As Cameron requested, please post replies at his site rather than to the list: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/21/ If people are interested, I'm sure Cameron can post a link to a new blog entry when he has found hosting, giving his findings and results. Thanks Russ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII User-Agent: NuralNet WebMail Client Hi Cameron, I am currently using www.phpwebhosting.com and find them very good and very cheap. I am considering going to www.dreamhost.com and they look pretty darned good. One of the best things they offer that I want is IMAP, which phpwebhosting don't have. phpwebhosting are very flexible tho, and you get unlimited subdomains, relatively unlimited transfers/databases and lots of storage, with more if you need it, so it's a tough call at this stage for me :) oh yeah, and both have shell access which is critical for me :) HTH Beau - Original Message - Hi, I was in the hunt for a good (cheap) web host. Explanation and replies here: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/21/ Thanks, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433 980 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxdesign.com.au --- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] last quirk on this site - help!
Would anyone be able to identify this exciting new MacIE5-only behaviour? http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/lighting.html CSS at http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/css/jands.css It works in every other Mac and Win modern browser, but MacIE5 explodes the width of the maincontent div to make a ridiculously wide layout. I'd really appreciate someone cracking this last nut so I can declare the CSS for this site DONE! Cheers Peter -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewww.universalhead.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
