RE: [WSG] Site Review Please! ZenGarden Submission ...
Try turning off images in FFox, the text becomes unreadable - far too little contrast, and because you have the Hn tags hidden there are no headings. Mind you, that being said, it is better than some of the Zengarden designs in this respect. It also loads quicker than several of the Zengarden pages. Cheers Graham Cook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mani Sheriar Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2005 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review Please! ZenGarden Submission ... Looks great! But on the horizontal scrollbar, I get the feeling that the div with the tree is too wide. Outline with your web dev toolbar. It's silly, as it doesn't need that width. Ahhh thanks, Rob! I love this group. You stare at something for hours and try every trick in the book and the solution is often so simple yet you fail to see it because you're practically blind at the end of all those hours. I used to have a wider bottom image and totally forgot I changed the dimensions. Thanks for saving my time - no more horizontal scroll bar - Yay! Mani Sheriar Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com 925|914.0741 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on presence of vertical scrollbar
I use this code:
html
{
min-height: 100%;
margin-bottom: 1px;
}
It forces the vertical scrollbar on all pages.
/Anders
Mani Sheriar skrev:
Hi All,
Im working on a project which can be seen here:
http://www.manisheriar.com/qualitymine
The page is centered using a div align=center wrapping around a
wrapper div that holds all the content divs (header, content, sidebar,
and footer).
The problem I'm having is in non IE browsers (I've tested FireFox,
Mozilla, Netscape) the content will jump left a little bit when the
presence of a vertical scroll bar is necessary, and then jump back right
when you return to a short page.
I would love some advice on how to center a page and keep it in the same
spot, regardless of page length.
THANKS!!!
Mani Sheriar
Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com
925|914.0741
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Re: [WSG] Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on presence of vertical scrollbar
Hi Mani,
Try using mozscroll in your CSS:
#mozscroll { position: absolute; top: 0px; bottom: -1px; visibility:
hidden }
then, in your code:
div id=mozscrollnbsp;/div
(I usually put mine at the bottom of the page).
HTH
Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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From: Mani Sheriar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:48 PM
Subject: [WSG] Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on
presence of vertical scrollbar
Hi All,
I'm working on a project which can be seen here:
http://www.manisheriar.com/qualitymine
The page is centered using a div align=center wrapping around a
wrapper div that holds all the content divs (header, content, sidebar,
and footer).
The problem I'm having is in non IE browsers (I've tested FireFox,
Mozilla, Netscape) the content will jump left a little bit when the
presence of a vertical scroll bar is necessary, and then jump back right
when you return to a short page.
I would love some advice on how to center a page and keep it in the same
spot, regardless of page length.
THANKS!!!
Mani Sheriar
Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com
925|914.0741
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[WSG] THANK YOU! Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on presence of vertical scrollbar
html{min-height: 100%;margin-bottom: 1px;}
Did the trick. Awesome!
Mani Sheriar
Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com
925|914.0741
[WSG] voice browser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there folks. I have a iBook 12'' G4 running Mac OS X (10.3.7) So, i need a Voice Browser to test the sites that i made. Is there any for MAC OS X? Where can i find it? Thanks - -- Atentamente, Jorge Laranjo site http://thetaoofwebdesign.tk/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB2Epn9Du+DmtKzSQRAgrjAKCwDjIONxFGl5c8b6/XS8hrd4zg4wCdFy6H jMlrd1byf9k2cKevTlYRMsI= =z9Lb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] I really need MAC people to check out my CSS Zen Garden submission ... Please and Thank You!
On 3 Jan 2005, at 4:26 AM, Mani Sheriar wrote: If anyone on a Mac cares to check this out for me and just report any issues (or, hopefully, the lack of issues) and on what browser you looked I would GREATLY appreciate it. www.ManiSheriar.com/zengarden Hi Mani on OS X 10.3.7: Safari 1.2.4 - OK; horizontal scrollbar kicks in at 850px window width. IE 5.2.3 - OK, but additional space at bottom of page, below div#footer - exactly 600px. Horizontal scrollbar kicks in at 1020px window width. Generally (and I suspect these are not just Mac issues): content is virtually illegible with images turned off. Headings are invisible, and body copy has too low contrast. HTH N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] voice browser
You should try Fangs (Jaws emulator plugin for FF) before... http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2004/11/22/8-fangs-release-05 -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz | janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Input: Select DOM JavaScript
Hi I'm wondering if anyone has any DOM JavaScript for Select inputs. Specifically, the ones where your choice in one Select box, calls some JavaScript to set the contents of the second Select box. Regards -David R ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Feedback on a new website developed very quickly
Using IE 6.0 and resolution on Windows at 1024 X 768, I get a horizontal scroll bar on Help Overseas, Help in Australia, Overseas Aid, and Tsunami Information. Hope this helps. Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anura Samara Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Feedback on a new website developed very quickly I'd be really grateful for some feedback from you all on a new site I've had to develop very, very quickly. The website is TsunamiAssist - http://www.tsunamiassist.gov.au. It is meant to give an overall view of the Government's response to the tsunami disaster, with links to other sites with more information. I developed this site extremely quickly - basically overnight, with some extra time devoted to our people checking the content which was basically written by me too! I have only checked it out on IE5.5 and Firefox, the only two browsers on my laptop. The XHTML and CSS validates, and it seems to do OK in some accessibility checking tools I used. Because I had to work so fast, I didn't have any time to hunt out my normal resources - books, etc - and I know I failed at some things and can't for the life of me remember how to do them. They include: 1. How do you get IE to handle font sizes in tables properly? I have set the font-size in the BODY to 76% but of course IE renders the text in any subsequent TDs back up to 100%. I know this can be fixed but don't want to resort to a hack. 2. I have run into a problem with 100% width DIVs inside other DIVs. Depending on which way I code it, either IE or Firefox expands the containing DIV out to be wider than the screen when I put a 100% wide DIV inside the containing DIV. What exactly is the right way to specify widths of DIVs to get this to happen. Of course, this also rears its head when a 100% wide table is inserted in the containing DIV. Again, I could fix this with a hack but don't really want to. Of course, any other comments or suggestions about the site are more than welcome; of course, content is really not in my hands as others are now writing and approving it. I will be periodically updating the site during the weekend as the situation changes, so if you have any suggestions I will try to fix the site up along the way - and if you find a problem, a solution would be really handy too! Thanks for you help. If I don't respond quickly, it's just because I am taking some time to look away from a screen for a while. Anura ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
Hi, Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
I am sure it is fine, I like the layout and background, I declined having to install quicktime, perhaps that should be a viewers choice afterwards? Rather than required before page loads...the first thing I got was the popup to install it, which always irritates mealso I am on a 56k modem, and after a while I closed the page rather than waiting for it to load, and I hate having to add stuff I don't want jjust to to view a page. My first answer to the group, hope it's ok... Bruce www.bkdesign.ca Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Some links for light reading (3/1/05)
A Complex Table Inspector http://juicystudio.com/complextableinspector.asp sIFR 2.0 release candidate 3 http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2.0-release-candidat e-3 How and when to use sIFR http://usabletype.com/articles/2004/how-and-when-to-use-sifr/ Text Decoration http://usabletype.com/css/text/decoration/ IOTBS: The Director's Cut http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/iotbs_the_directors_cut.html Cross-Column Pull-Outs http://www.alistapart.com/articles/crosscolumn/ Beware of Opening Links in a New Window http://www.sitepoint.com/article/beware-opening-links-new-window Your Customer Is A Search Engine http://www.evolt.org/article/Your_Customer_Is_A_Search_Engine/25/60409/index .html Guide to Unicode, Part 1 http://lachy.id.au/blogs/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-1.html Guide to Unicode, Part 2 http://lachy.id.au/blogs/log/2004/12/guide-to-unicode-part-2.html Avoid 404 http://annevankesteren.nl/archives/2004/12/avoid-404 Adam Polselli's 2005 color forcaster http://www.adampolselli.com/2005/ Eric Meyer - SES Chicago Report http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/12/18/ses-chicago-report/ Accessibar project http://accessibar.mozdev.org/ We're taking back the web http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/006799.html Happy new year all Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
Hi, Chris- I'm getting some really strange results using IE 6.0. Directly below your quick time window, there is another white (empty) window of the same size. The remainder of your text starts directly below that and is, therefore, pushed below the bottom of your background graphic. M.A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Kennon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 7:11 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds Hi, Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
Hi, Problem should be resolved, thanks for the heads up. Let me know if it persist. C On Sunday, January 2, 2005, at 06:18 PM, Mary Ann wrote: Hi, Chris- I'm getting some really strange results using IE 6.0. Directly below your quick time window, there is another white (empty) window of the same size. The remainder of your text starts directly below that and is, therefore, pushed below the bottom of your background graphic. M.A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Kennon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 7:11 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds Hi, Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
Tested on Firefox 1.0, Windows XP SP2. 1) Anti-war site heading is really close to the last line of the previous paragraph. Looks more like a signature. 2) Link to A List Apart looks different from others. Intentional? 3) Hover event color change in Edification and Validation is REALLY slight. Can't really tell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Kennon Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:11 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds Hi, Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] I really need MAC people to check out my CSS Zen Garden submission ... Please and Thank You!
maini, looks great and is valid xhtml 1.0 strict. On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:40:22 +0100, Roger Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 jan 2005, at 18.26, Mani Sheriar wrote: If anyone on a Mac cares to check this out for me and just report any issues (or, hopefully, the lack of issues) and on what browser you looked I would GREATLY appreciate it. No apparent problems in Safari. IE 5/Mac, though, has a few hundred pixels of empty space after the bottom image, causing unnecessary vertical scrolling. A quick guess is that it has something to do with the 1200 px negative margin you've specified for #container, and the rules for #extraDiv1 and #extraDiv2. The negative bottom margin on #extraDiv2 is probably what's causing it - the extra space is looks like it is 600 pixels tall. Not that I'd worry too much about IE 5/Mac. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Brian Ussery beta testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beussery.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 706.296.3446 905.935.4396f ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Shedding Holiday Pounds
I was starting to think I was in the wrong place, a tad ignored, after all, I took the time to go there and gave my opinion, glad to see someone at least agrees. Not a negative, it is just many have a slow modem, and like I said before, a lot will close a site before bothering to download and install software they either don't have or don't want. (quicktime). Mind you, I am new to this group, and in a learning time for some of the new stuff Bruce, www.bkdesign.ca Nick Gleitzman wrote: On 3 Jan 2005, at 12:10 PM, Chris Kennon wrote: Just relaunched for the new year, could someone look under the hood for fatty tissue, bloat, redundancy the works. It all validates. http://ckimedia.com A 1.2MB QT file on the home page sure qualifies as bloat to me. I didn't bother waiting for it... (56k dialup) N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
