[WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2
Title: IE7 isn't going to CSS2 http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ Apologies if this has been posted already
Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2
Surely the world saw this coming. I dont think microsoft will ever be able to support n e thing ever. Half of me wonders if they even have the talent to create a browser that works. the other half knows they can, but realises they wont! Shaun Johnson - Original Message Follows - From: Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:26:17 - http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ Apologies if this has been posted already == = This email has been scanned for Virus infection by messagelabs.com == = Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Website Check
Hey guys! I've recently re-done my website. Can ya give it a once-over and let me know if you find any obvious problems (such as errors in the html or css, or anything that make it not WAI-AAA or 508 compliant)? Comments for or against the design are definitely welcomed. :-) Website URI: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Thanks a bundle guys! --Zachary Hopkins == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:19 -0500, Hopkins Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can ya give it a once-over and let...] Website URI: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ XP_SP2 Opera.54/FF1.0.1/IE6.0 Take all of this with a grain of salt, not as cruel and unusual punishment, as I often have nothing better to do than nit-pick: I find the funky font on the strange blue shape difficult to read. I think I might find the funky font difficult to read even if it was not on top of a strange blue shape. There seems to be no means of navigation, or text for the images, when images are disabled in Opera or FF; and same for IE in accessibility mode. Incidentally, frames are disabled in Opera(default). Lynx seems fine, although a source ordered document might be an advantage? You have a couple of minor parse errors on the CSS file. HTML validates. --Zachary Hopkins Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Help with modified ThrashBox implementation
Hello, I'm trying to create a modified version of the ThrashBox (original ThrashBox is at: http://www.vertexwerks.com/tests/sidebox/). My modification is at: http://www.love2tap.com/test/ Basically, I'm trying to add an image to the header area that can easily be replaced allowing the box to be re-used without changing the underlying CSS. To do that, I had to change the hooks a bit. My problem is in positioning the text in the header area with respect to the image. In my attempts, I've been able to have the headline align itself to the top or bottom of the image. Really, I'd like to get it close to the top, but not so that it extends out of the main box. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks. -Paul Burchfield ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
I happen to like the font :-P The navigation has plenty of backups. I'm not sure why everything would disappear. I don't use any img tags, everything is a background image through block elements and CSS. They have titles, and text within the element for the text version. :-/ Forgive me, but a source ordered document means what? (O.o) --Zachary David Laakso wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:19 -0500, Hopkins Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can ya give it a once-over and let...] Website URI: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ XP_SP2 Opera.54/FF1.0.1/IE6.0 Take all of this with a grain of salt, not as cruel and unusual punishment, as I often have nothing better to do than nit-pick: I find the funky font on the strange blue shape difficult to read. I think I might find the funky font difficult to read even if it was not on top of a strange blue shape. There seems to be no means of navigation, or text for the images, when images are disabled in Opera or FF; and same for IE in accessibility mode. Incidentally, frames are disabled in Opera(default). Lynx seems fine, although a source ordered document might be an advantage? You have a couple of minor parse errors on the CSS file. HTML validates. --Zachary Hopkins Best, David -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
Hi Zachary, your links are wrong. They are like http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products Calling this with Opera and disabled automatic redirection, a page with http 301 is shown. I do not know if every screen-reader or lynx would accept this. Better: Link directly http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products/ Best Regards Juergen Auer http://www.sql-und-xml.de/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2
Again, apologies if this has been posted previously, but there is a somewhat kinder view of this on Eric Meyer's blog @ http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/21/exploring-better-standards- support/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 4:13 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Surely the world saw this coming. I dont think microsoft will ever be able to support n e thing ever. Half of me wonders if they even have the talent to create a browser that works. the other half knows they can, but realises they wont! Shaun Johnson - Original Message Follows - From: Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:26:17 - http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ Apologies if this has been posted already == = This email has been scanned for Virus infection by messagelabs.com == = Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
Lynx seems to like it Ok. I never thought of the Opera thing before. Kinda weird... (O.o) Thanks! --Zachary Juergen Auer wrote: Hi Zachary, your links are wrong. They are like http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products Calling this with Opera and disabled automatic redirection, a page with http 301 is shown. I do not know if every screen-reader or lynx would accept this. Better: Link directly http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products/ Best Regards Juergen Auer http://www.sql-und-xml.de/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
Could some of you supply more information on this then? Maybe a link to an article or two? I don't understand what the difference would be. Also, what do you mean 'No need for the links'? Which links? Why are they not needed? Just looking for clarification... It means that the order you see with CSS applied, doesn't have to be the same as the source-order. Some of us write our source-code without caring all that much about where things should end up on graphical screens --usually with main content first, and then we reposition whole blocks with CSS to get the right look. Guess that's what CSS is for, after all. No need for links at the top then, unless it's a link-page. It's another accessibility-stunt which some of us like to apply. regards Georg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products Calling this with Opera and disabled automatic redirection, a page with http 301 is shown. I do not know if every screen-reader or lynx would accept this. You're spreading FUD. That's one of basic features of HTTP. Browser that doesn't support 301 status would be useless. Lynx is actually one of few browsers that fully and properly supports 301 and 302 statuses. Other (major) browsers violate HTTP RFC by redirecting POST requests without asking user for permission. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Hello Mark, I'm not sure if this will help, but I learnt the basics of creating CSS layouts by studying other CSS files. A good place to start would be to pick a design from www.csszengarden.com, and view the CSS file. Re-create it with a little imagination. -- Johnno Shadbolt Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.code215.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Hi Mark, You can't really go wrong with this book: Designing with webstandards by Jeffrey Zeldman. As for urls, the New York Library style guide is invaluable: http://www.nypl.org/styleguide/ Rgds, Ben Mark B wrote: Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Hi Mark I'd have to say that the following three books are well worth having in your library: Designing with Web Standards, by Jeffrey Zeldman (http://www.zeldman.com) Web Standards Solutions, by Dan Cederholm (http://www.simplebits.com) and Cascading Style Sheets - the Definitive Guide by Eric A Meyer (http://www.meyerweb.com) These three give you the rationale for the Web Standards approach, the practical implementation and the nitty-gritty of CSS, respectively. Cheers Peter Mark B wrote: Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Peter Asquith http://www.wasabicube.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
alistapart.com offers some nice tutorials about converting oldschool code into compliant code. Apart from that, I would say use google and look for standards-compliant web design or something to that effect... Have fun! - Original Message - From: Mark B [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Hi Mark, http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/06/21/bonanza.html Above is the Web Standards Link Bonanza from SimpleBits. This is an enormous list and should give you tons of reading. Alot of it might not apply directly, but is a great read anyway. Good Luck, Andrew Mark B wrote: Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Thanks for help/suggestions all. I did some research on the various suggestions, I've ordered Web Standards Solutions by Dan Cederholm, sounds like exactly what I want. I'll have a play around in a few of the suggested sites as well. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Mark, Two other suggestions: Eric Meyer on CSS (follow-along projects from The Man) and... either Ebay or Froogle (great source for discounts on all these expensive books). Wendy Mark B wrote: Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] test-dont read
if you see this sorry-this is just a test to see if i fixed my email problem and have successfully resubscribed. thanks ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Standards compliant site, clients wants to make updates themselves
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Bert Doorn wrote:
Is it just me, or is this a common dilemma? Apart from abandoning
standards compliance (not an option as far as I'm concerned), setting
the site up in HTML4.01 Transitional and letting amateurs wreak havoc
with Micro$oft FONTPlague, what options are there to design
standards compliant sites, letting clients maintain them and still
stay within web standards?
Idealistic, but I'd suggest client education. Offer to take them
through the absolute basics, emphasising the advantages of *not* doing
things like setting fonts etc. Create a simple cheat sheet for them,
outlining the process of updating pages (in their specific
application), dos and don'ts, etc. As a good customer relations
exercise, follow up after a month or so to see how they're doing, if
they need any tuition or help, etc. Maybe you'll even get some repeat
business, or a small trickle of we made an update, but something went
wrong...can you have a look?
Again...idealistic. But I've managed to get this through on a variety
of projects, and seems to work quite nicely in most cases.
I have had a good amount of success with a cheat-sheet style approach.
just outlining basic things that they might want to do. Of course this
goes also with my CMS that helps out a bit. I don't see why you couldn't
make a simple one file admin for just editing pages online. So long as
page content is dynamically included. If you use separate files and have
something like include('header.htm'); nav, footer, etc on each page then
you have the problem that they may delete or misplace these elements.
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[WSG] Who's putting javascript in my code?
This line of js appears in the head of my site's pages: script language='_javascript_' src='http://127.0.0.1:1027/js.cgi?pcar=28253'/script and this following the /html: script language='_javascript_'postamble();/script I didn't put them there. They're generating 4 warnings in Tidy and keeping my html from validating. They're also appearing in the source of every web page I look at--even at this list's site--though they don't always result in exactly the same warnings. What I did put in my html is: script type="text/_javascript_" src="script.js"/script. And I have all my _javascript_ in that file. Where are those other 2 lines coming from...and what do they do? tia, Carol
Re: [WSG] Who's putting javascript in my code?
These 2 links will explain http://forums.devshed.com/archive/t-56231/postamble-lt http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/9227.htm -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/ http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Carol Doersom wrote: This line of js appears in the head of my site's pages: script language='javascript' src='http://127.0.0.1:1027/js.cgi?pcar=28253'/script and this following the /html: script language='javascript'postamble();/script I didn't put them there. They're generating 4 warnings in Tidy and keeping my html from validating. They're also appearing in the source of every web page I look at--even at this list's site--though they don't always result in exactly the same warnings. What I did put in my html is: script type=text/javascript src=script.js/script. And I have all my javascript in that file. Where are those other 2 lines coming from...and what do they do? tia, Carol ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Semi-newbie: advice needed
Mark, A book called The CSS Anthology (101 Essential Tips, Tricks and Hacks) by Rachel Andrew is the best i've found so far. As for online tutorials the CSS positioning one at Brainjar is great - http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/default.asp cheers, Grant Mark B wrote: Hiya. I'm an experienced HTML CSS coder who has dabbled a little with the XHTML/CSS way of doing things, but frankly, am a little lost. All the tutorials I've found on the web assume that you are either experienced and trying to do some advanced stuff, or are completely new and don't know CSS. I'm looking for an online tutorial or book that will help me go from the old ways to the new ways - help wean me off tables! :) Can anyone offer suggestions? I'm sure many others on this list have been down this path. Cheers, Mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
diona kidd wrote: Could some of you supply more information on this then? Maybe a link to an article or two? I don't understand what the difference would be. Also, what do you mean 'No need for the links'? Which links? Why are they not needed? Just looking for clarification... It would be nice if I could point you to the perfect answers, but I don't think they exists. Too many variables... Basically, I order, or organize, my pages so the most important stuff comes first in the source-code. That's the main content with headlines and all, and no site-navigation is mixed in with the content at the top. When the main content comes first in the source-code, then there's no need for skip to content or skip navigation. All browsers can tab links, so no need for skip to navigation either. The more advanced text-browsers, like Lynx, will get a short set of link-relations. These links are positioned by the browser itself, so they are always available where the visitor expects to find them. All other links are below the main content, no matter where they may end up on the screen in a normal, graphical, browser. My own writing on this and related subjects, is far from complete, but I have some in a section I'm working on at the moment: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03.html http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_01.html ... and some more can be found around in that section. All those pages are based on source-ordering, so you can turn off CSS and whatever, or use lynxview http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html, and see how they are organized. Most of it will work as I've intended. Hope this clarifies things a bit. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS/Font size query
Hello, Im hoping someone can help. Our unit has just completed work on an update for our home page using a combination of Coldfusion, MySQL and CSS. The URL is: http://www.flinders.edu.au/ We have tested the page on all available browser/system setups without a hitch, but we periodically receive emails from people complaining about tiny font sizes. We have done extensive testing in an attempt to replicate the 'tiny font size' problem that some users are having, but so far have not been successful in replicating this issue in any of our testing environments (A combination of testing on the actual OS/ Multi-Browser versions as well as using the Browsercam service.) Our web statistics reveal that the majority of users are using MSIE 6.0 and running Windows XP. - Some of our users on campus are using Citrix and we have noticed that some of their configurations are defaulting to 'smaller' text in MSIE rather than the default of 'medium'. we have been able to resolve the issue for some of these users. If anyone could offer any help or suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. - James Caller / Dave Barnett //- David Barnett Multimedia Technology Unit Information Services Division Flinders University Adelaide. Australia Phone: 8201 5019 Fax: 8201 3996 //- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS/Font size query
Hi, I occasionally run into this when developing sites. I far as I can tell, I am hitting some weird key combination that decreases the font, because when I go to View - Text Size - Medium its all back to normal. This happened to me last week (text was small i ie 6.1 and firefox 1.0 ) so when I increased the font with this method, it increased the font ( in Firefox as well.very strange!!!). I imagine it is some combination that decreases the default web font size somewhere on the system. PS: As a coldfusion developer, do you use cfaussie? cheers, Scott Thornton, Programmer Application Development Information Services and Telecommunications Hunter-New England Area Health Service Phone RNH +61 2 49236078 Fax +61 2 49236076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/03/2005 2:41:36 pm Hello, I'm hoping someone can help. Our unit has just completed work on an update for our home page using a combination of Coldfusion, MySQL and CSS. The URL is: http://www.flinders.edu.au/ We have tested the page on all available browser/system setups without a hitch, but we periodically receive emails from people complaining about tiny font sizes. We have done extensive testing in an attempt to replicate the 'tiny font size' problem that some users are having, but so far have not been successful in replicating this issue in any of our testing environments (A combination of testing on the actual OS/ Multi-Browser versions as well as using the Browsercam service.) Our web statistics reveal that the majority of users are using MSIE 6.0 and running Windows XP. - Some of our users on campus are using Citrix and we have noticed that some of their configurations are defaulting to 'smaller' text in MSIE rather than the default of 'medium'. we have been able to resolve the issue for some of these users. If anyone could offer any help or suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. - James Caller / Dave Barnett //- David Barnett Multimedia Technology Unit Information Services Division Flinders University Adelaide. Australia Phone: 8201 5019 Fax: 8201 3996 //- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS/Font size query
G'day The URL is: http://www.flinders.edu.au/ We have tested the page on all available browser/system setups without a hitch, but we periodically receive emails from people complaining about tiny font sizes. Problem is caused by this line to start off with: font: normal 0.75em/127% Verdana, Arial, sans-serif, Tahoma MSIE does not like the base font set in em (and 0.75em is quite tiny in itself). Suggest you set it in percentage. Best to use 76% or perhaps something a bit bigger (I tend to use 83%). Recommended reading: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/index.html Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] FireFox 1.0.2 out :)
Untitled DocumentUpgrade your browsers ;) The new version simply resolves a couple of security vulnerabilities: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html Siggy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check (hopkinsprogramming.net)
I've recently re-done my website. Everybody put the title or URL of the website in the website check message subject, okay? Thanks! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Website Check (hopkinsprogramming.net)
Hi Rick, h2's on search page have wrong title values. A couple of }}'s messing up your CSS validation. -db -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Faaberg Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 4:32 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Website Check (hopkinsprogramming.net) I've recently re-done my website. Everybody put the title or URL of the website in the website check message subject, okay? Thanks! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Accessible HTML Tables article
I've just written an article about Accessible HTML Tables and would appreciate any comments/suggestions for changes: excerpt from http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2005/03/24/accessible-html-tables/ table elements are often maligned by the web standards savvy developer who equates them to the bad old days of table based layout. This has the unintended consequence that such a developer won't know how to best use a table for its proper purpose of displaying data. This article aims to fix this problem by going through the elements and attributes which can help make a data table more accessible, render faster, and make it easier to interpret. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/ http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS/Font size query
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:11:36 +1030, Dave Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The URL is: http://www.flinders.edu.au/ We have tested the page on all available browser/system setups without a hitch, but we periodically receive emails from people complaining about tiny font sizes. As mentioned the problem is, in part, setting em on the body, which triggers a font-sizing bug on zoom in IE. However, the fonts as now set, are quite small on a 1280 monitor-- even before the weirdness that happens on re-size in IE. A quick check, and change to default [body 100.01% --or 100.01% to be nice to Opera--] helped on my end, *but* only providing, that the .75em setting on elements in the style sheet where set to 1em as well. Some adjustments and tweaks need to be made, particularly to the h-menu, but the readability was vastly improved, and will ensure the up, and down scaling of the fonts without going goofy in IE. - James Caller / Dave Barnett Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
