RE: [WSG] jump menu method
Just a thought, but if all the links are counties within a greater whole, why not use a happy map image map interface? Thats a-okay standards-wise, and degrades nicely into a list of links, and looks cute for visitors. Joe there is a mapping system done w/ flash, i have to tie that in as well. You can see it on the current site at www.onetouchireland.com Terrence Wood wrote: Lachlan Hardy said: build the menu out of an unordered list then use Javascript to transform that into a dropdown list for those with JS. Consider it a 'white lie of web design' or call it 'progressive enhancement'. nice solution. kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] $100 laptop WAS: why liquid layout is important.
Hi Yes, funnily enough I was reading about Edubuntu Linux (http://edubuntu.org/) today - a version of Ubuntu (http://ubuntu.org) specially targeted at school age kids.The ideas raised in this thread seem to mesh well with what's described at the above links. It's a small step from providing hardware to providing a freely available OS to go with it... Feel free to email me off list about this stuff. Cheers James On 11/21/05, Jonathan O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/11/2005, at 2:40 PM, Herrod, Lisa wrote: ... I worked in indonesia for a short time teaching basic internet skills to a very poor school for deaf children. if they can pick up HTML, (which, remember is in english) taught by someone with basic indonesian and little Indo sign language, imagine what they can do with propper support! our main issue was that of the 6 or 7 computers they had, each had completely different o/s, browser, software etc. they could not afford to access the internet or visit an internet cafe (though we did find the funds for 2 visits). They picked it up so quickly and in a couple of weeks were creating small web sites. the kids were aged between 11 and 18. They were clearly amazed at what they were doing. Education and knowledge is very empowering, particularly for people considered 'disabled' and in a third world country.In the mid-nineties, Charles McCathieNevile did some great stuff withthe 'CD with a hole' concept.The idea was to put tutorials, free software and examples onto a CD.The CD was accompanied by a floppy per person.People used the CDs to build stand alone Web pages, which were then saved to their floppy.At semi-regular gatherings, the contents of the floppys could beuploaded to a Web server.The contents of the server were then burntto a new version of the CD, which each person took away with them. This allowed people in remote aboriginal communities (for example) tobuild Web sites, even though they had little or no access to theregular Web.People can do a great deal with very little access. **The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**
[WSG] shrink-to-fit width in Opera
One of my annoyances with Opera is that it calculates the shrink-to- fit width of absolutely positioned elements to be the minimum width, basically adding a break after each word. I wanted to write about how annoying this was, but thought I'd better check the specs first, just in case it was actually right. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#the-width-property However I'm having trouble understanding the spec (no surprise there) Here is the pertinent extract. Calculation of the shrink-to-fit width is similar to calculating the width of a table cell using the automatic table layout algorithm. Roughly: calculate the preferred width by formatting the content without breaking lines other than where explicit line breaks occur, and also calculate the preferred minimum width, e.g., by trying all possible line breaks. CSS 2.1 does not define the exact algorithm. Thirdly, calculate the available width: this is found by solving for 'width' after setting 'left' (in case 1) or 'right' (in case 3) to 0. 1. 'left' and 'width' are 'auto' and 'right' is not 'auto', then the width is shrink-to-fit. Then solve for 'left' 3. 'width' and 'right' are 'auto' and 'left' is not 'auto', then the width is shrink-to-fit . Then solve for 'right' Then the shrink-to-fit width is: min(max(preferred minimum width, available width), preferred width). Thoughts? Yours Andy Budd http://www.andybudd.com/ 01273 241355 07880 636677 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Fwd: [LINK] One Laptop per Child
I thought that WSG'ers might be interested in this view of the One Laptop per Child project. Liddy Nevile was at the launch last week, and will be working on a project in Bangledesh next year, I think. Begin forwarded message: From: Liddy Nevile Date: 21 November 2005 10:56:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [LINK] One Laptop per Child One important way of thinking about the 'green machine' is as a book. They will be able to provide kids with lots of stuff to read and it is expected that in some cases that will be all they will need to do to be very useful in places where textbooks are not available. It might also please some Linkers to know that by avoiding greedy operating systems, the number of winds per hour is being reduced. There is also a new approach to screens. I think that a lot of people will benefit from just these two developments. I personally look forward to children, in Australia and elsewhere, getting computers that are not business machines but rather designed for kids ... and adults can explore the kind of software likely to be available by trying Squeak (http://www.squeak.org/), a modern 'SmallTalk' language developed by Alan Kay and his colleagues and and Scratch (http://web.media.mit.edu/~mres/papers/scratch-proposal.pdf), a new language being developed by Mitchel Resnick and his colleagues building on Squeak. Liddy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] shrink-to-fit width in Opera
On 21 Nov 2005, at 8:33 pm, Andy Budd wrote: One of my annoyances with Opera is that it calculates the shrink-to-fit width of absolutely positioned elements to be the minimum width, basically adding a break after each word. I wanted to write about how annoying this was, but thought I'd better check the specs first, just in case it was actually right. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#the-width-property First, which version of Opera are you testing ? Second, what kind of content goes into that absolute positioned element ? If I put an element with just some static text in, Opera 7.5 - 9 prev display the same as Firefox (1.6a1 nightly), Camino (1.0b), iCab, Safari 1.2+. However, add a floated block in there, and then Opera is a bit more aggressive.[1] Put multiple floated blocks in the AP element, and Opera 7 behaves differently from others. That was a know bug in that version (not limited to AP elements, btw). The spec doesn't specify exactly what should happen; here is the key: quote CSS 2.1 does not define the exact algorithm/quote What exactly is a line break ? Does the end of a *floated* span constitute a line break in this context ? And if you start to play with more complex constructions, the differences between all (decent) browser increase, see [2] as one example. [1] http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/AP-shrink-to-fit.php [2] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/100307.html Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ASP.NET XHTML compliant blogging
I wish I had my blogging/community system finished for you, Mark. It will be ASP.NET 2.0 and CSS/XHTML compliant. It won't be ready until early next year. -- Francesco Sanfilippo Web Architect and Software Developer http://www.blackcoil.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 402-932-5695 home office 402-676-3011 mobile Professional web developer and Internet consultant with 10 years experience. Specializing in ASP.NET, C#, SQL Server, CSS/XHTML, and digital photography. Founder and developer of URL123.com - now serving 2 million clicks per month. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] why liquid layout is important.
I don't think anyone here would disagree that the equitable delivery of and access to information and education is every persons right. I disagree. I'm pretty sure this is not the forum for this topic though. -Nigel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herrod, Lisa Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:48 PM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] why liquid layout is important. This is a great article Terrance, and while interesting from a design / technology perspective, I think the human side of this story is more important. I'm sure everyone who saw Doug Bowmans presentation at WE05 'Zooming out of the trenches' http://we05.com/podcast/ was incredibly moved by his presentation - I heard stories of tears. After all, building to standards is really about equity isn't it? I don't think anyone here would disagree that the equitable delivery of and access to information and education is every persons right. It would be great if we (WSG listers) could come together to work on a project like this - we all have such great contacts, it would be a very powerful thing to do. I've been wanting to do something like this for a long time, if you are interested too, please contact me. lisa -Original Message- From: Terrence Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 9:28 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] why liquid layout is important. Sorry if this has been commented on in this forum: http://chronicle.com/free/2005/11/2005111602t.htm 10 Million 7.5in small screens, pretty sure that will change the face of the browser market. -- Terrence Wood ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] jump menu method
As simple as http://realtor.com and choose map search. Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com Herrod, Lisa wrote: can you send a link to an example of one of these? thanks, lisa -Original Message- From: Joseph R. B. Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 4:06 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] jump menu method Just a thought, but if all the links are counties within a greater whole, why not use a happy map image map interface? Thats a-okay standards-wise, and degrades nicely into a list of links, and looks cute for visitors. Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com Terrence Wood wrote: Lachlan Hardy said: build the menu out of an unordered list then use Javascript to transform that into a dropdown list for those with JS. Consider it a 'white lie of web design' or call it 'progressive enhancement'. nice solution. kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] jump menu method
Lachlan Hardy said: Try this one: http://www.business.vic.gov.au/ where's the map? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WordPress CSS - Content and Sidebar Squished In IE
Artemis said: the content and sidebar are squished together in IE just taken a look in IE6 and it looks fine to me, I don't have net access with FF from work... have you fixed it? kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WordPress CSS - Content and Sidebar Squished In IE
I am very new to CSS (I put the N in Newbie!), and I had followed a book on creating my first WordPress theme by editing the default theme. It looks really nice in Firefox, but the content and sidebar are squished together in IE (more than likely due to me being silly and going off on my own with the CSS). I know I've missed something in the CSS but I just cannot figure out what it is. Could someone please point me in the right direction so that the content and sidebar area's look the same in IE like they do in Firefox? There's a lot of mistakes in my CSS, but I figure I would tackle one thing at a time until I can get it the way I want it. I believe it is because IE is doubling your margin. Add display:inline to #content and #sidebar. Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] shrink-to-fit width in Opera
First, which version of Opera are you testing ? 7.5blah, 8.02, 8.5 Second, what kind of content goes into that absolute positioned element ? Text If I put an element with just some static text in, Opera 7.5 - 9 prev display the same as Firefox (1.6a1 nightly), Camino (1.0b), iCab, Safari 1.2+. Doesn't for me. One of my many irritations with Opera. The spec doesn't specify exactly what should happen; here is the key: quote CSS 2.1 does not define the exact algorithm/quote Well yes, but essentially it is either going to expand to 100%, shrink to the minimum width or shrink to fit the available space. What exactly is a line break ? Does the end of a *floated* span constitute a line break in this context ? New line Yours Andy Budd http://www.andybudd.com/ 01273 241355 07880 636677 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] jump menu method
Terrence Wood wrote: where's the map? I'm sorry, I thought Lisa wanted an example of the unordered list conversion to dropdown list ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] OR 2006 Conference
Hi all, thought some of you might be interested in a Conference in Melbourne in Feb. 2006. http://openroad.net.au/conferences/2006/ The second day includes Richard Ishida (W3C) on web internationalization Russ Rolfe (Microsoft) on Windows Vista internationalization Houman Pournasseh (Microsoft) on ASP and ASP.Net globalization Alexi Paspalas (BBC), editorial workflow within a multilingual environment -- Andrew Cunningham e-Diversity and Content Infrastructure Solutions Public Libraries Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia andrewc+AEA-vicnet.net.au Ph. 3-8664-7430 Fax: 3-9639-2175 http://www.openroad.net.au/ http://www.libraries.vic.gov.au/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WordPress CSS - Content and Sidebar Squished In IE
Thierry, Adding the disply:inline to the #content and #sidebar fixed it!! Oh, thank you thank you thank you! It would appear that adding that also fixed something else I was going to ask about, so now I don't have to holler for help again. For future reference (and my own curiosity), can you please explain in newbie english how and why the display:inline works? Many thanks for your assistance! Artemis ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WordPress CSS - Content and Sidebar Squished In IE
Artemis wrote: Thierry, Adding the disply:inline to the #content and #sidebar fixed it!! Oh, thank you thank you thank you! It would appear that adding that also fixed something else I was going to ask about, so now I don't have to holler for help again. For future reference (and my own curiosity), can you please explain in newbie english how and why the display:inline works? http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html Many thanks for your assistance! You're welcome, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS equivalent for image alignment
Hi all, What is the CSS way of setting the align attribute of img / to middle? e.g., img src=___ align=middle / I just want to align text to the middle of an button image sitting on the same line instead of to the bottom of it. TIA -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS equivalent for image alignment
vertical-align: top middle or bottom (middle may be center) Quoting Ben Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, What is the CSS way of setting the align attribute of img / to middle? e.g., img src=___ align=middle / I just want to align text to the middle of an button image sitting on the same line instead of to the bottom of it. TIA -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Neal Watkins www.constructweb.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] A little help with a charity site please
Title: Message I can't seem to figure out why there is a pixel opening between the top graphic and the next www.raokonline.com www.raokonline.com/_resource/style/default.css I also cannot get the transparency working in Internet Explorer 6, the transparency works in Firefox but not IE. any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Taco Fleur - Chief Executive OfficerPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteendollars a year, .COM.AU for fifty dollarstwo years! ** BlackBerryBusiness Solutions www.OzBlackBerry.com ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! ** Seamless Merchant integration
RE: [WSG] jump menu method
Nice script. What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it? Geoff. Lachlan Hardy wrote: Herrod, Lisa wrote: can you send a link to an example of one of these? Try this one: http://www.business.vic.gov.au/ Hopefully, you'll forgive the lack of validation - not our implementation, although I'm sure it'll get there eventually Cheers Lachlan
RE: [WSG] jump menu method
Nice script. What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it? It is brilliant Lachlan i'd like to use it to if you don't mind. -best -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] jump menu method
now I just want to find a way to use it because it sounds so good! -Original Message- From: kvnmcwebn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:14 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] jump menu method Nice script. What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it? It is brilliant Lachlan i'd like to use it to if you don't mind. -best -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] jump menu method
kvnmcwebn wrote: Nice script. What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it? It is brilliant Lachlan i'd like to use it to if you don't mind. Well, shucks, guys. Like I said, I didn't write it. I've just checked with a colleague, and as far as we can recall (this was months ago) it was our idea and a subcontractor did it for us. So whilst anyone is welcome to take the idea, I can't speak for the exact code On the other hand, it is remarkably simple to implement, so I can't imagine that you'd have too much difficulty working up something similar Out of interest, surely there are other folks out there doing this kind of thing? Perhaps someone else has a script they actually own the copyright to that they are willing to share? Cheers Lachlan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] HTML Color Combo Chooser - extremely well made
no need for replies just thought this would be of use to many of you http://www.siteprocentral.com/cgi-bin/feed/feed.cgi all the best - S ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please
Title: Message PS. I got the transparency working after I gave the container a size. Still haven't figured out the 1pixel space. Taco Fleur - Chief Executive OfficerPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteendollars a year, .COM.AU for fifty dollarstwo years! ** BlackBerryBusiness Solutions www.OzBlackBerry.com ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! ** Seamless Merchant integration -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur - Pacific FoxSent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:46 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please I can't seem to figure out why there is a pixel opening between the top graphic and the next www.raokonline.com www.raokonline.com/_resource/style/default.css I also cannot get the transparency working in Internet Explorer 6, the transparency works in Firefox but not IE. any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Taco Fleur - Chief Executive OfficerPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteendollars a year, .COM.AU for fifty dollarstwo years! ** BlackBerryBusiness Solutions www.OzBlackBerry.com ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! ** Seamless Merchant integration
Re: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please
G'day
PS. I got the transparency working after I gave the container a size.
Still haven't figured out the 1pixel space.
Change the image alignment from top to bottom
img {
vertical-align: bottom;
border: 0;
}
Incidentally, the html doesn't validate, partly because you have
no alt attributes on a number of images. If they don't need alt
text (i.e. they are just for visual effect), consider putting
them in the css as background images.
Regards
--
Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
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RE: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please
Thanks for that.
Taco Fleur - Chief Executive Officer
Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au
an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 .
** Web Design and Development
** SMS Solutions, including developer API
** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteen dollars a year, .COM.AU
for fifty dollars two years!
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert Doorn
Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:07 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please
G'day
PS. I got the transparency working after I gave the
container a size.
Still haven't figured out the 1pixel space.
Change the image alignment from top to bottom
img {
vertical-align: bottom;
border: 0;
}
Incidentally, the html doesn't validate, partly because you have
no alt attributes on a number of images. If they don't need alt
text (i.e. they are just for visual effect), consider putting
them in the css as background images.
Regards
--
Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
**
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See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list getting help
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Re: [WSG] jump menu method
No, you're right and it seems that I'm much dumber than that. The form uses POST indeed, but I managed to hide some link in a div with display: none to help the bots around my Java-only navigation (yes, it was that long ago; probably the very first CSS I wrote!)and, of course, one of those pointed straight to the receiving script... djn (hiding in shame...) Mark Stanton wrote: You must have been using GET rather than POST.Spider's won't submit forms that us POST, but they have every right to follow forms that use GET. -- Dejan Kozina Dolina 346 (TS) - I-34018 Italy tel./fax: +39 040 228 436 - cell.: +39 348 7355 225 http://www.kozina.com/ - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
