Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout
Only have safe sex with wombats they are promiscious and many have a sexual transmitted disease clymidia. You guys are sick today eating roots and leaves, off topic. Tim On 23/05/2007, at 8:37 AM, John Faulds wrote: gay wombat sex is rightly prohibited in Australia Mabye Australia doesn't come across as being that progressive in other parts of the world, but the only state where gay wombat sex would be prohibited is Tasmania. ;) -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
It amazes me that they would rather spend money on solicitors than web design. I am tracking this sites as well, only 500 html validation errors today. The web design team are Bullseye Design which is a trademarked Target Brand. Maybe they have in-house solicitors sitting around with nothing to do? http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/USAweb.html#targetstore It is a fantastic site to ridicule, I want to see the solicitors defend it. Target stated that: We believe our Web site complies with all applicable laws and are committed to vigorously defending this case. We will continue to implement technology that increases the usability of our Web site for all our guests, including those with disabilities Tim On 23/05/2007, at 2:16 PM, Steve Green wrote: when the oh-so-clever designer has abused CSS to make the seventh item appear in third place We had a classic case of this yesterday while doing one of our JAWS demos for a group of developers (www.accessibility.co.uk/free_jaws_demo.htm in case anyone is interested in coming to the next one). The website was www.target.com and among the many horrors were a group of image maps containing maybe a hundred links or more. None of us was able to work out which link had focus at any time because it jumped around all over the page, and often the 'alt' attributes were not the same as the corresponding graphical representation of text. It's a fantastic site for the demo because it includes every example of don't ever do it this way. My guess is they PhotoShopped the design then turned the whole thing into an image map with a random tab sequence and no 'alt' attributes for half the links. And they wonder why they're getting sued! Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Fitzsimons Sent: 23 May 2007 03:04 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics On 23 May 2007, at 02:15:30, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Although it might be important from an accessibility perspective that an unsighted user be able to say the third one on that page without having to count the preceding list items - hmm, now that's something to think about.. Not quite sure how they'd say the third one without actually having counted, though...am I missing something? Or do you mean in situations where a sighted user and a blind user discuss the page? If that's the concern, then *any* CSS that visually changes position of things on screen would be a problem (just thinking about sighted users saying the X that comes before Y not realising that X was absolutely positioned above Y, for instance)...which I'd say is an edge case anyway. I'm assuming here that a screen reader imparts the additional information implied by the distinction between ol and ul, such as specifying Three rather than Bullet. I haven't checked, but I believe that is the case from previous tests. From that perspective, I was thinking in terms of the situation where a blind user, having heard the description of something they like, might find it easier to phone the company to place an order. If the screen reader said something like List item: Three: blue sweater instead of List item: Bullet: blue sweater, then rather than the user having to count and remember that the blue one was the third item description they heard on that page, they would be able to tell the person taking the order that the thing they want is the third one on the sweaters page. Sometimes people's interaction with web sites can lead to interaction with the rest of reality :-) It seems to me possible that the use of an ordered, as opposed to an unordered, list might offer an additional affordance to a blind user. Of course, that's just speculation on my part - but it could be something worth checking out in user testing. The next problem then arises when the oh-so-clever designer has abused CSS to make the seventh item appear in third place. I seem to recall a blind friend of mine bitching and whining (with excellent reason) about some similar usability nightmare in the past... something to do with being asked if he meant the one on the right or the left of the third row. It was impossible for him to determine what came from which row, or on what side it appeared, because the person on the phone saw the page with some too-clever-by-half CSS applied, and he just had SuperNova. FWIW, that's a good reason not to hide the numbers on an ordered list just to make things look nice. (And if anybody was wondering, blind people do have preferences in the colours they wear.) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
John Faulds wrote: As I said, I couldn't say for certain what the relationship might be, but my guess with the example given, as it's a photo gallery site, would be that the photographer/artist feels like the photos should be in a certain sequence, perhaps to facilitate the telling of a story through images. That's only a theory without any back-up info from the original poster, but I think illustrates that there could be occasions when adding an order to images might be important. Again, I'd say that source order is enough of an order, without the need to drag out a table to hold the whole layout of the thumbnail gallery together. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] div hiding and expanding
Hi Kevin, The most obvious way to do this is using JavaScript. There are loads of different JavaScript methods, however I've come up with a small library of functions based on the Prototype framework that lets you do this kind of this, completely unobtrusively and without non-standard markup. Take a look here, it's free to use: http://www.stillbreathing.co.uk/projects/performer/performer.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: 22 May 2007 16:39 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] div hiding and expanding Hi, Is there a way to do this unobtrusively and validly? see div ids: div id=/wrapper/ div id=/visible all the time/ /div div id=/hidden but expands when link clicked/, /div /div div id=/wrapper/ div id=/visible all the time/ /div div id=/hidden but expands when link clicked/, /div /div The expanding div would push down the bottom border of the wrapper and expand to the height of its content. It would be used for event listings that have 2 categories of content, one of which is very redundant and wouldn't need to be seen every time. Im not a fan of this kind of thing but in this case the content is very redundant. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout
Ive put together a quick article regarding forms. Ive had to place it on some random server at work for now. http://www.viberate.co.uk/ws/styling-a-form/styling-a-form.html Theres 3 pages in total, the last page goes through 3 methods of creating a form with and without a DL. Its been created for use Without CSS, and focuses on accessibility, but with CSS applied to the forms anything can be achived. Ive tryed various form layouts using the DIV method and they work. Enjoy :) On 5/22/07, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of Steve Green Definition lists are the new tables. People are just falling over themselves trying to abuse them in all kinds of inappropriate ways. To paraphrase the previous message,a definition list is for lists of definitions I don't agree with this definition. For example, the specs [0] say they can be used to mark up dialogs. Also, Joe Clark said [1]: quoteI think it's just fine and dandy to use definition lists to mark up appositional pairs. Such usage is not prohibited by the spec, which implies such usage is permitted./quote I believe appositional pairs makes a lot of sense [2]. I agree that DLs are abused and that there are better suited elements to mark up forms, but I also think many people get the wrong idea when it comes to what Definition Lists are supposed to be used for. [0] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 [1] http://blog.fawny.org/2004/05/16/ubu/ [2] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=appositionr=67 --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] div hiding and expanding
Hi Kevin, The most obvious way to do this is using JavaScript. There are loads of different JavaScript methods, however I've come up with a small library of functions based on the Prototype framework that lets you do this kind of this, completely unobtrusively and without non-standard markup. Take a look here, it's free to use: http://www.stillbreathing.co.uk/projects/performer/performer.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: 22 May 2007 16:39 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] div hiding and expanding Hi, Is there a way to do this unobtrusively and validly? see div ids: div id=/wrapper/ div id=/visible all the time/ /div div id=/hidden but expands when link clicked/, /div /div div id=/wrapper/ div id=/visible all the time/ /div div id=/hidden but expands when link clicked/, /div /div The expanding div would push down the bottom border of the wrapper and expand to the height of its content. It would be used for event listings that have 2 categories of content, one of which is very redundant and wouldn't need to be seen every time. Im not a fan of this kind of thing but in this case the content is very redundant. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Check - Streaming Media
On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:19:46 pm Hassan Schroeder wrote: Parker, Simi (DPS) wrote: I am investigating some potential issues with our live broadcasting service and if you use an O/S / browser / media player configuration other than Windows / Internet Explorer / Windows Media player, I would really appreciate your feedback and/or assistance. I would particularly welcome feedback from Macintosh and Linux users. Unsurprisingly, I get a black screen with '(no video)' message in the popup on SuSE 10 Linux/Firefox; Konqueror gives me an alert: No plugin found for 'Microsoft Media'. Do you want to download one from www.microsoft.com? Total no-go. HTH! I get nothing displayed but the file name starting to downlaod/stream in the MPlayer plugin for Firefox 2.0.0.3. This is using Ubuntu 7.04 with the w32codec package installed, so the file format is the problem on Linux. -- Regards, Steve Bathurst Computer Solutions URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 _ ... (0) ... / / \ .. / / . ) .. V__/_ Linux Powered! Registered Linux User #355382 * If you read the same things as others and say the same things they say, then you're perceived as intelligent. I'm a bit more independent and radical and consider intelligence the ability to think about matters on your own and ask a lot of skeptical questions to get at the real truth, not just what you're told it is. Apple's Inventor - Steve Wozniak 2006 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
Quoting John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was talking about an ordered list over an unordered list. I never said anything about using tables. Ah, yes, I missed how the argument moved on to ordered vs unordered lists. I was under the impression that this branch of the discussion (the order thing) was sparked by the example of using a table for photographs which have some form of spatial relationship to each other (can't find the original message that started this angle of discussion...it was the one with nature photos that, supposedly, had a logic in their visual arrangement that implied order/grouping and therefore, the author argued, were tabular data and a case of a valid use of tables for photo galleries). Then again, I may be getting my conversations confused here... :) P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
John Faulds wrote: As I said, I couldn't say for certain what the relationship might be, but my guess with the example given, as it's a photo gallery site, would be that the photographer/artist feels like the photos should be in a certain sequence, perhaps to facilitate the telling of a story through images. That's only a theory without any back-up info from the original poster, but I think illustrates that there could be occasions when adding an order to images might be important. --Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 Absolutely John! A significant number of photographers regard a 'collection of photographs' as being 'the work', and the way that work is shown (the relationship between one image and it's adjacent images, and indeed, to the whole) is of paramount importance. What I'm saying is best illustrated by considering the case where the photographer is having a show at a gallery : he doesn't just throw the images at the wall (so to speak) - he spends ages deciding which image goes where, etc etc. My point is that, in this case, Patrick's excellent rule of thumb that moving cells around changes the meaning of the data applies to this case also, and the work can be considered as tabular data. As I said, it emis/em subtle. Interestingly (well, I think it is) there must be other subtle examples where the relationship between items can be considered 'tabular', even when there are no emobvious/em connections. -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Australian University webpage reviews and WANAU membership
For some reason my membership of WANAU has been lost, ignored or denied by the WANAU moderator. My emails to Dey Alexander to comment on this research have received no reply. I have spent a few hundred hours of my time unfunded to produce a webpage that is highly relevant to WANAU's objectives of promoting accessibility in Australian University websites. I also offer coding suggestions, but this research has so far been ignored or lost on WANAU, but it already has the attention of many concerned IT academics across Australia, a few with negative comments like the Australian Catholic University, but also many positive comments. It concludes that 64% of Australian University sites pass Priority One accessibility tests which is contrary to Dey Alexanders 2003 report that 98% of sites failed accessibility tests. Where are WANAU's real interests? Selling training courses based on old and inaccurate claims that 98% of Australian University sites are inaccessible without considering new research in not academic excellence, it may even breach the Trade Practices Act for misleading claims. http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustUni.html#skipnav Tim Anderson The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
Quoting Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A significant number of photographers regard a 'collection of photographs' as being 'the work', and the way that work is shown (the relationship between one image and it's adjacent images, and indeed, to the whole) is of paramount importance. What I'm saying is best illustrated by considering the case where the photographer is having a show at a gallery : he doesn't just throw the images at the wall (so to speak) - he spends ages deciding which image goes where, etc etc. My point is that, in this case, Patrick's excellent rule of thumb that moving cells around changes the meaning of the data applies to this case also, and the work can be considered as tabular data. As I said, it emis/em subtle. I think, though, that this is stretching the idea of tabular. As I said, the source order itself can be used to determine sequence. And, if it's spatial relationship (what's above, what's below, etc...rather than just what came before/after), then HTML is probably not a suitable language to define that relationship in a satisfactory and semantically unambiguous manner - perhaps other technologies like SVG (provided they can encode the relationship in a non-visual manner as well) may be more suited, not sure. In any case, I'd say that this is stretching both the idea of what is tabular and of what can be unequivocally represented by HTML alone. It's also a slippery slope because, following the same rationale as a photographer, a designer doesn't just throw text and images on the webpage, but carefully chooses their placement/layout...so a designer may also claim that, because they spatial relationship conveys meaning, a table would be appropriate for their layout. Very muddy territory, P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Quoting Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A significant number of photographers regard a 'collection of photographs' as being 'the work', and the way that work is shown (the relationship between one image and it's adjacent images, and indeed, to the whole) is of paramount importance. What I'm saying is best illustrated by considering the case where the photographer is having a show at a gallery : he doesn't just throw the images at the wall (so to speak) - he spends ages deciding which image goes where, etc etc. My point is that, in this case, Patrick's excellent rule of thumb that moving cells around changes the meaning of the data applies to this case also, and the work can be considered as tabular data. As I said, it emis/em subtle. I think, though, that this is stretching the idea of tabular. As I said, the source order itself can be used to determine sequence. And, if it's spatial relationship (what's above, what's below, etc...rather than just what came before/after), then HTML is probably not a suitable language to define that relationship in a satisfactory and semantically unambiguous manner - perhaps other technologies like SVG (provided they can encode the relationship in a non-visual manner as well) may be more suited, not sure. In any case, I'd say that this is stretching both the idea of what is tabular and of what can be unequivocally represented by HTML alone. It's also a slippery slope because, following the same rationale as a photographer, a designer doesn't just throw text and images on the webpage, but carefully chooses their placement/layout...so a designer may also claim that, because they spatial relationship conveys meaning, a table would be appropriate for their layout. Very muddy territory, P --Patrick H. Lauke Muddy indeed! However, A web page is not a presentation of data in the same way. Using the same analogy as before, the gallery is equivalent to the web page, and the images are a small section of what appears in (on) it. So, using tables for layout would be semantically equivalent to changing the decor of the gallery, not the works that are being shown in it. The works remain 'tabular', unless, of course, the exhibitor doesn't care about where the pictures go, relative to each other. This is fun! :-) -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. Also if someone can tell me more about making my website accessible, having AAA standard or someting. Thanks a lot. regards Puneet *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. Puneet, very nice site. There seems to be nothing wrong with it. I would recommend using this tool to get a more thorough review of your accessibility: http://fae.cita.uiuc.edu/ Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
I think the primary issue you have here is the assertion that Images, however artistic they may be, qualify as 'data'. I cannot see that connection, and therefore cannot agree with the use of a table. Further, the 'relationship' between two images may change if they are moved, but the 'meaning' of those images does not change, ever. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
I like the site, the only issue i could see that the site does not degrade gracefully when you disable javascript, this can some times be hard to a achieve, however in your case you are using javascript for simple navigation movements. What I would suggest is have your links go to say index.html#sectionyourafter then attach your javascript to the on click of the menu items, then inside the javascript cancel the event bubbling so the link never gets called. Then at least if the javascript is disabled, the site will still work. Cameron www.camocarzi.com On 5/23/07, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. Puneet, very nice site. There seems to be nothing wrong with it. I would recommend using this tool to get a more thorough review of your accessibility: http://fae.cita.uiuc.edu/ Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. Really nice work! The form does not validate, it's easy to fix that, check the validator output: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.puneetsakhuja.com%2Fdynamic%2FDefault.aspx /AndersN *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the primary issue you have here is the assertion that Images, however artistic they may be, qualify as 'data'. I cannot see that connection, and therefore cannot agree with the use of a table. Further, the 'relationship' between two images may change if they are moved, but the 'meaning' of those images does not change, ever. Mike Hi Mike, We're getting way OT here (interesting though it is!) but the 'meaning' of an image is dependent entirely upon the context in which it is seen/displayed. Consider an image showing a pretty landscape with no title. Then duplicate it, and title it 'Picture of radiation falling over the landscape'. Then title it 'Area where the body of John Doe was found' etc etc. See what I mean? -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
On 5/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. I would make the background of the body black so that you don't have white peeking out where the background image ends. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net .. designtocss.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your comments/suggestions. Also if someone can tell me more about making my website accessible, having AAA standard or someting. Thanks a lot. regards Puneet I had a momentary block on understanding the visual when I first opened the site (could not figure out what the image on the right had to do with the content on the left). The site looks fine on a Mac. The tiny content type and light color for same gets a bit hard to read on a PC. IE6 and 7 appear to be working as intended. The horizontal nav and lowercase headings are breaking a little early (+1). A message from the friendly w3c validator (outline). * Puneet Sakhuja Website Designer Dubai o A level 2 heading is missing! + graphic design * website design o A level 2 heading is missing! + A level 3 heading is missing! # dubai * Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem
Hey Cole,
This might be another way, but have you tried it with extra markup? That is,
possibly using z-index to layer your containers?
Regards,
Sherwin
On 5/20/07, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All -
I'm setting a 1px by 770px image to repeat vertically within a wrapper
div.
Difference is that I need this repeat to START 300px from the top of the
wrapper.
So far, no luck. Here's the code:
#wrapper {
position: relative;
width: 770px;
margin: 0 auto;
text-align: left;
background:
url(/resources/5661/assets/images_medical/wrapper_tile.jpg) repeat-y 0
300px;
}
Reason I'm starting off at 300px from the top is because I need the top of
the wrapper to be transparent so the tiling body background can be seen
above and below the header, but the area behind the nav and content areas
NEED to be white.
So, is it possible to start a tile a certain distance from the top of a
containing div?
If so, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If you'd like to see this live, look here: http://teratest.terapad.com
Thanks to all in advance!
Cole
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RE: [WSG] RE: Error help
In my experience, browser crashes == bad JavaScript or bad video In Firefox and Opera - the flash video shows the message 'a required component is missing from your system! Click here to add component' (no js errors in either browser) there are a lot of requests to dev.theweddingshow.com.au when the page loads - could this cause an error? In IE7 - I get a warning : 'this website wants to run the following add-on: Windows Media Player Extension ...' (the pink scroll bars are really cheesy looking - I'm guessing that was a client 'must-have' ? :) ) IE6 : I just get a popup to confirm I want to load flash content None of my browsers 'crash' - my advice would be to visit the client and get them to show you exactly what's happening. HTH, Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] RE: Error help
Hi Mike, When you say it crashes, what exactly happens? any error messages for example? Nick michael (SydneyWeb) wrote: Hi can anyone help with this customer question Im not sure if its because this client is always complaining or whether we have missed something in development This is the site www.theweddingshow.com.au http://www.theweddingshow.com.au/ The client went with the cheapest hosting company which we advised against! R Mike I have had several clients today complaining that their internet browser keeps crashing only whilst viewing The Wedding Show. I also have encountered several crashes while using the admin area, home page and search supplier facility on the front end. I thought it was my browsers but then got suppliers phoning up informing me of this problem. I was also on a sales call to a potential client and guess what happened she told me her browser crashed and funny enough right at the same time my browser crashed as I was giving her a tour of the wedding show. Can someone there check what this means or why this is happening and contact me urgently. It seems to have started since you guys have added the Content Management system?? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Nick Roper partner logical elements innovative web and internet solutions zend/php mysql approved partner *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Photo gallery markup semantics
You are right about the links, they shouldn't be side by side, the div solution is clearly not best. Rob mentioned that if the page is viewed with CSS off, the images would stack up and create a rather long page. That's definitely something to consider, but most likely something worth compromising to achieve semantic enlightenment. Now the choice of UL or OL... a little user testing will go a long way indeed. Jason Robb www.eleventy72.com Thierry Koblentz wrote: On Behalf Of Jason Robb Unless my client needs to show a number with each image, an ordered list would be my second choice. I still think a DIV will be the right markup for the task. Thanks for the input everyone, I really appreciate it. What's wrong with the UL? And what about adjacent links: http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/sam82-0.htm --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] RE: Error help
Paul Bennett wrote: In Firefox and Opera - the flash video shows the message 'a required component is missing from your system! Click here to add component' (no js errors in either browser) Unless you consider it a logic error to prompt the user to download an ActiveX DLL to a Linux system :-) Thanks for pointing out that message, though -- I totally overlooked it, as that area seemed merely decorative. You can't use our web site! might oughta be a little bolder... To the original question -- have all the people complaining about crashing browsers downloaded and installed this extension? Or are they all using IE? Or _ ? I'd isolate common threads first. FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com opinion: webtuitive.blogspot.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software
Sounds like you need Wordpress. http://wordpress.org/ From what you describe, it can do all that. It's also highly themeable if you need a specific custom look and feel. L. Lucien Stals [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa B McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/07 8:41 AM Calling all blog wizards! I need a stand alone blogging software that I can insert into a client's website so they keep their branding and can update their own blogs. I've looked around to no avail. Any suggestions for where to look, how to look, or anything you use that fits the bill? Requirements are images, postings, replies to the original posting plus ability to respond to individual posts. The site is a UK charitable organization that needs the posts to be monitored,anonymous, and secure. The real trick here is being able to pull this off without fancy programming skills. I am willing to host wherever is necessary instead of hosting on my regular servers. TIA, Lisa Lisa B. McLaughlin, NCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: +44 (0) 1943 468624 M: +44 (0) 7835 947606 AllSpunUp Websites that work for you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, printing, copying or use is strictly prohibited. The University does not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments are secure and there is also a risk that it may be corrupted in transmission. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening them. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us on +61 3 9214 8000 and delete it immediately from your system. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. Please consider the environment before printing this email. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Form drop-downs for countries
Hi folks, Just wondering what you think about form usability scenarios for drop-downs for countries. I currently maintain a database of countries which is displayed alphabetically in a form drop-down. To save the user having to scroll, I'm considering repeating common countries at the top of the drop-down (as I've seen in use elsewhere), but I'm not sure how accessible that would be. Alternatively, I'm thinking of defaulting to USA - the site I'm working on has an international focus. I would prefer not to use javascript. Thanks Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software
When you say you've been looking to no avail, what have you looked at and why were they no good? On Thu, 24 May 2007 08:41:04 +1000, Lisa B McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calling all blog wizards! I need a stand alone blogging software that I can insert into a client's website so they keep their branding and can update their own blogs. I've looked around to no avail. Any suggestions for where to look, how to look, or anything you use that fits the bill? Requirements are images, postings, replies to the original posting plus ability to respond to individual posts. The site is a UK charitable organization that needs the posts to be monitored,anonymous, and secure. The real trick here is being able to pull this off without fancy programming skills. I am willing to host wherever is necessary instead of hosting on my regular servers. TIA, Lisa Lisa B. McLaughlin, NCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: +44 (0) 1943 468624 M: +44 (0) 7835 947606 AllSpunUp Websites that work for you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] stand alone blog software
http://www.vbulletin.com/ http://www.phpbb.com/ Kind Regards, Michael Doyle Managing Director [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel- 02-9699-0088 Tel- 02-9699-4099 87-97 Regent Street, Chippendale, Sydney, 2008 www.sydneyweb.com.au www.sydneyseo.com.au get your website found by search engines. www.powermail.com.au Our newsletter product - keep in touch with your clients and prospects. = IMPORTANT NOTICE TO THE RECIPIENT This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The information herein may also be privileged. If you have received this message in error you have no right to copy, distribute or disclose it to anyone else but should advise us immediately. Information sent via email is not necessarily secure and SydneyWeb Pty Ltd accepts no responsibility for any consequence arising from you opening this email or any attachment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa B McLaughlin Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 8:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] stand alone blog software Calling all blog wizards! I need a stand alone blogging software that I can insert into a client's website so they keep their branding and can update their own blogs. I've looked around to no avail. Any suggestions for where to look, how to look, or anything you use that fits the bill? Requirements are images, postings, replies to the original posting plus ability to respond to individual posts. The site is a UK charitable organization that needs the posts to be monitored,anonymous, and secure. The real trick here is being able to pull this off without fancy programming skills. I am willing to host wherever is necessary instead of hosting on my regular servers. TIA, Lisa Lisa B. McLaughlin, NCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: +44 (0) 1943 468624 M: +44 (0) 7835 947606 AllSpunUp Websites that work for you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug -- Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)4 1042 1081 mobile ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Form drop-downs for countries
There was a discussion on this on Roger Johansson's site last year: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200608/selecting_country_names_in_forms/ On Thu, 24 May 2007 08:58:16 +1000, Sarah Peeke (XERT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Just wondering what you think about form usability scenarios for drop-downs for countries. I currently maintain a database of countries which is displayed alphabetically in a form drop-down. To save the user having to scroll, I'm considering repeating common countries at the top of the drop-down (as I've seen in use elsewhere), but I'm not sure how accessible that would be. Alternatively, I'm thinking of defaulting to USA - the site I'm working on has an international focus. I would prefer not to use javascript. Thanks Sarah -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout
Jamie Collins wrote: http://www.viberate.co.uk/ws/styling-a-form/styling-a-form.html http://www.viberate.co.uk/ws/styling-a-form/styling-a-form.html I must say that I disagree with some points stated in these article, shared also with stronger tone in previous posts (that is Tables for forms = NO, DL for forms = No). First, what is form really? I understand it as an interaction layer that allows user to send his input to server - this layer is transparent to actual structure layer and vice versa. Ideally internal form structure should be same as if there wasn't a form layer at all (values of inputs and labels will stay as text nodes) - and this is the way I'm thinking when I'm composing a form. Using form doesn't exclude use of list or table - it's the other way - form content may be ordered list, may be definition list, may be a table or the other and we should use most appropriate element for the content (thinking as if there wasn't form layer). Mind that form by specs can contain only block elements - it really means that spec authors perceived form as a one or more block elements - form element is just indication for interaction layer - real structure of form is those block elements inside - I know that this point of view might controversial for some - the biggest source of confusion is that browsers do not treat form element as a transparent layer but as a part of structure - you can add padding, width border etc - it feels like part of a structure. However after all I think it's much more logical to think of form as of other transparent layer and it's definitely good to avoid any styling of it (we're already forced to use block elements inside and styling them should do the job anyway). Treating it as transparent makes job easier - moving form closures around doesn't affect appearance of page - recently I've had a call from client which wanted to move form closures - it can be pain if you have some presentational css stuff tied to it - mind that it's totally unlikely that client would request moving closures of *real* structure element - that should make a good hint ;-) Other thing - It is said in specs that its children can be ul, ol, table etc. If writers of specs will think of form as another thing aside to lists and tables they will state that form can only have e.g. fieldset elements as its children (like ul can have only li elements, tbody tr etc.) but they didn't. The only structural (and controversial) element (not really part of form interaction layer) that can be used only with forms is fieldset ..which is to me a weak point of HTML 4.0. What is fieldset really? It's a section and I think it could be very useful also when not using a form at all - after all in XHTML 2.0 they came up with section element ;) Thanks. Medyk -- Mariusz Nowak Skype: mariuszn3 AIM: mariuszn3 http://www.medikoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Form drop-downs for countries
How are you producing the select and option html? If you are producing these on a webserver via a scripting language, its probably best to do the grouping there. Use the Optgroup tag (which I believe is fairly well supported) to group the list of common countries together with a nice label. Not entirely sure what question you are actually asking here? What do you mean by usability scenarios? Karl On 5/24/07, Sarah Peeke (XERT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Just wondering what you think about form usability scenarios for drop-downs for countries. I currently maintain a database of countries which is displayed alphabetically in a form drop-down. To save the user having to scroll, I'm considering repeating common countries at the top of the drop-down (as I've seen in use elsewhere), but I'm not sure how accessible that would be. Alternatively, I'm thinking of defaulting to USA - the site I'm working on has an international focus. I would prefer not to use javascript. Thanks Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
I use Fireworks. On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:22:42 +1000, Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software
I agree with Lucien unless there are other requirements (ie no php must bet .NET) go wordpress, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
If your on linux you can GIMP do mock ups of the site. Normally for the 'design' I use photoshop and play around will colours and ideas However the best place to start is actually either a pen and paper or a word processor of some sort to layout the user interface. (I don't mean the design or outputting as html, just flow and structure of a page) On 5/24/07, Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug -- -- Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)4 1042 1081 mobile [image: Skype Me!] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***inline: skypeme_btn_small_white.gif
Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
Yeah, I like Fireworks too, although for some reason, a lot of designers don't. Fireworks is particularly good for laying out Web Application interfaces IMHO. The CS3 version has some really useful features in that regard, such as the 9-slice scaling guides, which let you better define how elements should scale - e.g. you can exclude rounded corners from the scale, so that they don't get stretched when you scale up. very useful! And if price is an issue, Fireworks standalone is a good deal cheaper than Photoshop. Good luck Trav On 24/05/2007, at 10:14 AM, John Faulds wrote: I use Fireworks. On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:22:42 +1000, Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem
Sherwin, and all others who had responded to this thread -
This design is to be used in a blogging system and their HTML is already
hard-wired and cannot be changed - so that suggestion is out the window by
default.
However, I have convinced the client to dump the patterned background in
favor of a flat-colored alternative which means that I have been able to
execute the tile by adding the background color to the header element which
effectively masks the white tile in the wrapper.
So, thanks to all for responding to my query; but all is now well and I
shall stay well clear of headache causing background patterns for this
client.
Thanks again to everyone!
Cole
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sherwin Techico
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:53 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem
Hey Cole,
This might be another way, but have you tried it with extra markup? That is,
possibly using z-index to layer your containers?
Regards,
Sherwin
On 5/20/07, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All -
I'm setting a 1px by 770px image to repeat vertically within a wrapper div.
Difference is that I need this repeat to START 300px from the top of the
wrapper.
So far, no luck. Here's the code:
#wrapper {
position: relative;
width: 770px;
margin: 0 auto;
text-align: left;
background:
url(/resources/5661/assets/images_medical/wrapper_tile.jpg) repeat-y 0
300px;
}
Reason I'm starting off at 300px from the top is because I need the top of
the wrapper to be transparent so the tiling body background can be seen
above and below the header, but the area behind the nav and content areas
NEED to be white.
So, is it possible to start a tile a certain distance from the top of a
containing div?
If so, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If you'd like to see this live, look here: http://teratest.terapad.com
Thanks to all in advance!
Cole
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Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software
You could try Expression Engine, the core is free to Non-profits. http://expressionengine.com/ Other than that - wordpress. Gary Barber http://manwithnoblog.com Lucien Stals wrote: Sounds like you need Wordpress. http://wordpress.org/ From what you describe, it can do all that. It's also highly themeable if you need a specific custom look and feel. L. Lucien Stals [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa B McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/05/07 8:41 AM Calling all blog wizards! I need a stand alone blogging software that I can insert into a client's website so they keep their branding and can update their own blogs. I've looked around to no avail. Any suggestions for where to look, how to look, or anything you use that fits the bill? Requirements are images, postings, replies to the original posting plus ability to respond to individual posts. The site is a UK charitable organization that needs the posts to be monitored,anonymous, and secure. The real trick here is being able to pull this off without fancy programming skills. I am willing to host wherever is necessary instead of hosting on my regular servers. TIA, Lisa Lisa B. McLaughlin, NCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: +44 (0) 1943 468624 M: +44 (0) 7835 947606 AllSpunUp Websites that work for you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, printing, copying or use is strictly prohibited. The University does not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments are secure and there is also a risk that it may be corrupted in transmission. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening them. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us on +61 3 9214 8000 and delete it immediately from your system. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. Please consider the environment before printing this email. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
Photoshop ... :) I do use Fireworks sometimes, but know Photoshop better. - susie On 24/5/07 9:22 AM, Douglas Reith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces
Douglas Reith wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug I make graphics with GIMP Inkscape (both open source) as well as Photoshop and Illustrator, but the actual mockups I usually end up doing with HTML CSS, since that's the easiest way I can see if they hold up to page interaction (enlarging text, changing viewport width, etc.). -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net .. designtocss.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software
I love WordPress. I recently tried to install Drupal but didn't have LOCK table permissions on my server that is required for installation. ByteDreams wrote: http://www.drupal.org Can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Douglas Reith wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug Notepad. Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
