Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: ...snip... Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element
On 26 Jul 2007, at 11:14, Micky Hulse wrote: Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: ...snip... Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3 -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On 7/26/07, E Michael Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every browser. In FF it showed up as a seperate paragraph but in IE it did not, it just broke the paragraph to the next line. I noted it hear on my blog http://germworks.net/blog/2007/04/05/inappropriate-use-of-p/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:03:58 am It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Go ahead and try it, as I did. Create a page with that markup and run it thru a validator. It passes just fine. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part, due to differing default css values in each browser. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
On 7/27/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part, due to differing default css values in each browser. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every browser. In FF it showed up as a seperate paragraph but in IE it did not, it just broke the paragraph to the next line. I noted it hear on my blog http://germworks.net/blog/2007/04/05/inappropriate-use-of-p/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:03:58 am It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ** The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security requirements for inbound transmission. ** The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
That was a big mistake... sorry. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de SosCpdGMail Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:22 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 21:14 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part, due to differing default css values in each browser. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every browser. In FF it showed up as a seperate paragraph but in IE it did not, it just broke the paragraph to the next line. I noted it hear on my blog http://germworks.net/blog/2007/04/05/inappropriate-use-of-p/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:03:58 am It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics
On Jul 26, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Jason Robb wrote: Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located here: http:// www.barbarawellsstudio.com/collections/ Also, when including Google Analytics, they ask to insert the script into the body, just before the end of the /body. Hi Jason, in Firefox, there is a one pixel gap between the tab and the color bar. I only took a look from Mac, but pretty sure the same thing is showing in PC too as I had encountered the very same problem with a site that also have color coded tabs. The color bar is quite thick therefor you can use line-height or padding bottom to compensate easily. The collections page loads a bit slow for me though - I am on cable broadband. I was once quite fancy with this lightbox gallery, but very soon I got so sick of it I can't even bear to look at it :) Think it goes better with blog. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
On 27/07/07, Daniel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. I'm assuming you're talking about immediate page content, as opposed to allowing visitors to log in? I can't think of any reliable way of doing this without cookies, and even that's not fail-safe since some people have their system set to not accept cookies or to delete them immediately on browser close. Cheers, Seona. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. You'll need cookies. (well you could sort of determine new vistors by IP address but only in a way that wouldn't be as reliable -- there are many cases of NAT users sharing a single IP, or with AOL users having their IP change while browsing and you couldn't detect this). .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics
HI Jason You can stick it in the head of the document although that will load it prior to the rest of the document being loaded which may cause the page to display a bit later than usual. The way around that issue is to use an event listener on load, it could even be delayed by a few seconds using a settimeout but not too much that the visitor will leave before it fires. Ggl only suggest sticking it at the end of the body to avoid interference with page load issues, it's sort of a poor mans load handler. I'm pretty sure having script in the head is ok for all html and xhtml doctypes (strict transitional etc) so you can have your standards cake and eat it too. Cheers James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Robb Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Site test Google analytics Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located here: http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com/collections/ Also, when including Google Analytics, they ask to insert the script into the body, just before the end of the /body. My question is this: If I insert the script anywhere but the head, does this break any rules or standards? Shouldn't all scripts be located in the head ONLY? Perhaps I am way off on this. Much thanks in advance, Jason Robb www.eleventy72.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list
Perhaps use an adjacent sibling selector: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#adjacent-selectors Although I am not sure how stable it is, these might help: Meyer: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/css2/sec05-07.htm Weakley: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/selectors_adjacent.htm Warm regards, Jason Robb www.eleventy72.com Nick Roper wrote: I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the way that the code is generated. So, given the following example code: h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3 ul class=someOtherClass liItem 1/li liItem 2/li liItem 3/li liItem 4/li /ul Is there a way that I can target the li for Item 1 without it having a specific id or class assigned to it? Thanks in anticipation. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Site test Google analytics
I like the photo gallery. Did you get the code from another source, or did you write it? If from another source, do you mine sharing? I wasn't a member back in May. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Robb Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Site test Google analytics Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located here: http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com/collections/ Also, when including Google Analytics, they ask to insert the script into the body, just before the end of the /body. My question is this: If I insert the script anywhere but the head, does this break any rules or standards? Shouldn't all scripts be located in the head ONLY? Perhaps I am way off on this. Much thanks in advance, Jason Robb www.eleventy72.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
ahhah, okay, glad you worked it out. btw, I noticed that you are using blockquote the way older versions of DW suggested, as an indent. That is not really the proper use of that tag. It would really be better to use css to shift some other block-level element that wraps your text. A couple of links on this subject: http://tom.me.uk/html-to-css/indent.html http://www.wise-women.org/tutorials/cssplanning/ Just a thought. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not understanding what you are after. Now both the blockquote and the footer are below each set of thumbs. Is that not what you were looking for? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site test Google analytics
Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located here: http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com/collections/ Also, when including Google Analytics, they ask to insert the script into the body, just before the end of the /body. My question is this: If I insert the script anywhere but the head, does this break any rules or standards? Shouldn't all scripts be located in the head ONLY? Perhaps I am way off on this. Much thanks in advance, Jason Robb www.eleventy72.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Thanks everyone but i fixed it with the clear: left;.. lol...
On 7/26/07, WebMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Olajide,
Actually yuors is a pretty simple fix.
Lose the blockquotes and p tags and include your text and graphix
inside your div with your thumbnail. Create a class called
.leftimg {
float:left;
} In your style and then call it from yourimage tag class=leftimg
A working example can be seen at http://1fite.com/17.html
I had a similar problem and solved it.
Good luck,
Troy
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Can someone help me out here:
http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/
There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end..
For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to
create spacing for it... can someone help me out.
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Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Thanks Michael... i added it ot the h1 and everything is perfect now On 7/26/07, Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On 7/26/07, E Michael Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not understanding what you are after. Now both the blockquote and the footer are below each set of thumbs. Is that not what you were looking for? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On 7/26/07, * E Michael Brandt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com http://www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com http://www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Google XML/HTML sitemap generator
Hi All, Just wanted to make those who are not aware of this great online tool: http://www.auditmypc.com/xml-sitemap.asp I've been on it all day correcting missing stuff etc from a very large site, really, really useful, and no, I'm not affiliated. Hope it helps with your workflow. Trevor http://www.tboult.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE7 and iframes
On Thu, July 26, 2007 1:49 am, Michael MD wrote: I'm trying to fix some pages that use iframes that are broken in IE7 are there any good tips for fixing broken iframes-related javascript in IE7? This is NOT a cross-domain problem. One good tip: when you ask for help, you should tell people what the problem is, not what it isn't ;-) We're not psychic, and just saying broken in IE7 tells us precisely nothing about the nature of the problems you are encountering. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: On 7/27/07, *Jermayn Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net http://www.raena.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/07/2007 4:04:18 pm div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer and this was scattered all throughout the pages. I went through and put p around them BUT is it valid??? Or is it a case of in Transitional DTD its ok but Strict DTD it is not?? Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: Let's see DIV: !ELEMENT DIV - - (%flow;)*-- generic language/style container -- Ok, now let's look up what is %flow: !ENTITY % flow %block; | %inline; Checking %inline: !ENTITY % inline #PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; | %formctrl; Just to make sure - %special: !ENTITY % special A | IMG | OBJECT | BR | SCRIPT | MAP | Q | SUB | SUP | SPAN | BDO Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Yeah I didnt think so. I knew Id be baking cookies I just was wondering about a cookieless way or not. sigh Alright continuing as planned. --D On 7/26/07, Matthew Cruickshank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. You'll need cookies. (well you could sort of determine new vistors by IP address but only in a way that wouldn't be as reliable -- there are many cases of NAT users sharing a single IP, or with AOL users having their IP change while browsing and you couldn't detect this). .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. Thanks for any help, --D *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Hello Olajide,
Actually yuors is a pretty simple fix.
Lose the blockquotes and p tags and include your text and graphix inside
your div with your thumbnail. Create a class called
.leftimg {
float:left;
} In your style and then call it from yourimage tag class=leftimg
A working example can be seen at http://1fite.com/17.html
I had a similar problem and solved it.
Good luck,
Troy
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Can someone help me out here:
http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/
There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end..
For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to
create spacing for it... can someone help me out.
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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element
David Dorward wrote: On 26 Jul 2007, at 11:14, Micky Hulse wrote: Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3 Looks interesting. :) Thanks! Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list
Given the poor current browser css support for this, perhaps the best
thing would be to write a small bit of DOM script that would add a class
to that first li for you, on the fly, on page load. It would go
something like this:
function styleFirstLI(){ // by divaHTML.com
var d=document;
if (!d.getElementsByTagName()) return;
var zULs=d.getElementsByTagName('ul');
for (var i=0, len=zULs.length;ilen;i++){
var li=zULs[i].firstChild;
li.className='firstLI';
}
}
Watch for my typos.
Add a class 'firstLI' to your stylesheet.
Then call styleFirstLI() on page load, and of course after the uls have
been generated by your other scripts.
Hope that helps.
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Nick Roper wrote:
I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things
complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the
way that the code is generated.
So, given the following example code:
h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3
ul class=someOtherClass
liItem 1/li
liItem 2/li
liItem 3/li
liItem 4/li
/ul
Is there a way that I can target the li for Item 1 without it having a
specific id or class assigned to it?
Thanks in anticipation.
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RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-know-where-youve-been.html#wh ereyoubeen This sound's to be a way. _ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Daniel Kendrick Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:40 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. Thanks for any help, --D *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't have paragraph tags around it? What if the extra space a paragraph tag would give is not wanted? Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: On 7/27/07, *Jermayn Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net http://www.raena.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Hassan Schroeder wrote: SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? Time how long it takes to receive a large file (eg more than a few hundred k) with Javascript. If it is very low surely that indicates a very fast connection or a cache hit. I wouldn't stake my life on it but it might provide some indication (and annoy any users with slower connections.) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 21:14 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Interesting. Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is not a block level element. Good observation. But nonetheless, the w3c html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a problem, so it would appear. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Joyce Evans wrote: I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't have paragraph tags around it? What if the extra space a paragraph tag would give is not wanted? Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/07/2007 4:04:18 pm div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer and this was scattered all throughout the pages. I went through and put p around them BUT is it valid??? Or is it a case of in Transitional DTD its ok but Strict DTD it is not?? Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: Let's see DIV: !ELEMENT DIV - - (%flow;)*-- generic language/style container -- Ok, now let's look up what is %flow: !ENTITY % flow %block; | %inline; Checking %inline: !ENTITY % inline #PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; | %formctrl; Just to make sure - %special: !ENTITY % special A | IMG | OBJECT | BR | SCRIPT | MAP | Q | SUB | SUP | SPAN | BDO Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Target 1st item in list
I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the way that the code is generated. So, given the following example code: h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3 ul class=someOtherClass liItem 1/li liItem 2/li liItem 3/li liItem 4/li /ul Is there a way that I can target the li for Item 1 without it having a specific id or class assigned to it? Thanks in anticipation. -- Nick Roper partner logical elements *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics
Jason Robb wrote: My question is this: If I insert the script anywhere but the head, does this break any rules or standards? Shouldn't all scripts be located in the head ONLY? Perhaps I am way off on this. HTML 4.01 states, The SCRIPT element places a script within a document. This element may appear any number of times in the HEAD or BODY of an HTML document. So it doesn't make any difference, and as Google Analytics doesn't do document.write() or anything like that then you can just ignore Google's advice. (for those with server-side languages I suggest seeing whether Google Analytics is slow because you can download it and cache it yourself. I found that it added 3 seconds to my page load times so I ended up writing a temporary file and refresh it when that file's modified time was too old. See http://urltea.com/12nb ) .Matthew Cruickshank http://docvert.org Convert Microsoft Word to HTML, RSS, or any XML format *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Best way is , put your link within headers, h2 and if you want to get rid of margin in that, do it through CSS. Even if you want to put in the paragraph tag, you can put a custom attribute - p class=sectionheadera href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a/p It's more semantic. Joyce Evans wrote: I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't have paragraph tags around it? What if the extra space a paragraph tag would give is not wanted? Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: Interesting. Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is not a block level element. Good observation. But nonetheless, the w3c html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a problem, so it would appear. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Your post really help to fix the problem. I'm very glad. In a very hard way, applets can do the job. If you need a how-to, I can loose some time in. Just ask. Any way, a better choice is already provided with use of the history contents. A tip for you: Dream. Code. Be more intuitive. Rafael -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 23:10 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I am not an expert but from what I understand text, links etc need to be held in block elements ie: p etc for it to semanticly correct. Guessing this is were POSH comes into play. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 11:18:45 am I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't have paragraph tags around it? What if the extra space a paragraph tag would give is not wanted? Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
