Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Joe Ortenzi

Designing with Web Standards - Jeffrey Zeldman

Getting Real - 37Signals

...

On Feb 19 2008, at 06:58, dwain wrote:




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Anybody can suggest me some good books or other resources for

· Webstandards

·  css technics


css the definitive guide third edition by eric meyer

·  Ui design and development

·  javascript (especially for UI purpose)


javascript the definitive guide fifth edition by david flanagan

I prefer   books…


Thanks a ton

Naveen Bhaskar Menon



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Re: [WSG] long words not wrapping inside DIV

2008-02-19 Thread Sagnik Dey
Hi,

Try using the whitespace property

-Sagnik




On Feb 19, 2008 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its not helping rajib. The text is bigger than the div width. The div is
 150px width and the text width is coming around 190px.What I need to do
 for wrapping the text?



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 Hi,

 Naveen,

 You can try using the overflow:none; as an attribute
 within your DIV where are declaring menu width. Hope
 this helps. Each single word must be less than your
 defined width(150px).

 Thanks
 Rajib
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  HI ...
 
 
 
  I have a dropdown menu with a width of 150px. while
  localization some
  texts are too long  and it is not wrapping inside
  the DIV and going
  outside the div. Is there any way to wrap long
  words. I don't want to
  use scrollbars in the div and I can't increase the
  width of the DIV.
 
 
 
  Pls help..
 
 
 
  Thanks a ton in advance..
 
 
 
  Naveen Bhaskar Menon
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Rick Lecoat


On 19 Feb 2008, at 06:58, Naveen Bhaskar Menon wrote:


Anybody can suggest me some good books


Among the books that live on my desk (as opposed to the less-honoured  
position on the bookcase) are:


Web Standards Solutions by Dan Cederholm;
Bulletproof Web Design by Dan Cederholm;
CSS: The Definitive Guide by Eric Meyer;
CSS Mastery: Advanced Web Standards Solutions by Andy Budd  others;
HTML Mastery by Paul Haine;
Web Accessibility by Jim Thatcher  others
and
Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug

I haven't delved into javascript yet so I don't have any  
recommendations there.


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RE: [WSG] long words not wrapping inside DIV

2008-02-19 Thread Rajib Mukherji
Can you send me the portion of the div that's
creating the problem as by defaults words wrap once
they get blank space between words , another
alternative is to declare style=overflow:hidden as
inline style inside the Menu div.

Thanks
Rajib

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its not helping rajib. The text is bigger than the
 div width. The div is
 150px width and the text width is coming around
 190px.What I need to do
 for wrapping the text?
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Rajib Mukherji
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:44 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] long words not wrapping inside
 DIV
 
 Hi,
 
 Naveen,
 
 You can try using the overflow:none; as an
 attribute
 within your DIV where are declaring menu width.
 Hope
 this helps. Each single word must be less than your
 defined width(150px).
 
 Thanks
 Rajib
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  HI ...
  
   
  
  I have a dropdown menu with a width of 150px.
 while
  localization some
  texts are too long  and it is not wrapping inside
  the DIV and going
  outside the div. Is there any way to wrap long
  words. I don't want to
  use scrollbars in the div and I can't increase the
  width of the DIV.
  
   
  
  Pls help..
  
   
  
  Thanks a ton in advance..
  
   
  
  Naveen Bhaskar Menon
  
   
  
  
  
 

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Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Paul McCann
I would also reccomend the Sitepoint books. Work well as a reference 
when your working too, or just forgot something like i usually do :)


Paul

willdonovan wrote:


I would also recommend the Sitepoint collection of books on 
javascript, CSS, SEO and many other titles.


Particularly the 'Art  Science' series and also the 'Anthology' 
series of books.


well laid out for learning quickly while in production.

Oh and seeing that everyone else is doing it (also because I love the 
book)

Don't Make me think - Steve Krug

There are many others in the area of good standards presentation and 
information design, depends on what flavors you prefer.


William



Rick Lecoat wrote:


On 19 Feb 2008, at 06:58, Naveen Bhaskar Menon wrote:


Anybody can suggest me some good books


Among the books that live on my desk (as opposed to the less-honoured 
position on the bookcase) are:


Web Standards Solutions by Dan Cederholm;
Bulletproof Web Design by Dan Cederholm;
CSS: The Definitive Guide by Eric Meyer;
CSS Mastery: Advanced Web Standards Solutions by Andy Budd  others;
HTML Mastery by Paul Haine;
Web Accessibility by Jim Thatcher  others
and
Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug

I haven't delved into javascript yet so I don't have any 
recommendations there.


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[WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hello,

I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).

I´ve just finished my online folio  http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but
it looks like the way I want only with FF . I don´t know where´s the
mistake.

You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the job
description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the page...

Does anyone want to give me a little help...

Thanks a lot.


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Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread John Faulds
And now you don't even need to buy Sitepoint reference material:  
http://reference.sitepoint.com/css


On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:50:59 +1000, Paul McCann  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I would also reccomend the Sitepoint books. Work well as a reference
when your working too, or just forgot something like i usually do :)

Paul

willdonovan wrote:


I would also recommend the Sitepoint collection of books on
javascript, CSS, SEO and many other titles.

Particularly the 'Art  Science' series and also the 'Anthology'
series of books.

well laid out for learning quickly while in production.

Oh and seeing that everyone else is doing it (also because I love the
book)
Don't Make me think - Steve Krug

There are many others in the area of good standards presentation and
information design, depends on what flavors you prefer.

William



Rick Lecoat wrote:

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Re: [WSG] * { display: inline; }

2008-02-19 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Mon, February 18, 2008 12:06 am, Tim White wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2008 6:00 PM, Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So in the header of my document, I included

 style type=text/css
 * {
 display: inline;
 }
 /style


 OK, I just tried it and got the exact same effects. So, I tried
 combinations and body * works (and I see Patrick just posted the same
 thing).

 My best guess is that the browsers are setting head as an inline
 element, along with style, etc.. If you change inline to block you
 get the expected behavior.

 very odd indeed.

Not so very odd...

If you hunt around through Firefox's files you'll find one named
html.css which specifies the default styling of all HTML elements. It
includes the following:

/* hidden elements */
area, base, basefont, head, meta, script, style, title,
noembed, param {
   display: none;
}

The new rule is overriding that rule, and so all those elements become
visible.

So, far from being odd, it's actually precisely the behaviour one would
expect according to the rules of CSS.

The only reason IE _doesn't_ exhibit the same behaviour as the browsers
Katrina listed is that it has an incomplete implementation of the HTML/CSS
rendering model which prevents it from rendering the contents of the
head element. So it's IE that's odd :-)

Regards,

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:


I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).

I´ve just finished my online folio  
http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but it looks like the way I want 
only with FF . I don´t know where´s the mistake.


You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the 
job description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the 
page...


Does anyone want to give me a little help...





IE has difficulty with line-height set in pixels. Try a raw number such 
as 1.2 or whatever does it for you.
You might try putting margin: 0; padding: 0;  on the body to bring all 
browsers to default; and, move the margin top to the header, and 
margin-bottom to the footer.

I do not know what you mean about the job description.
I'd consider using headings h1 through h6-- h1 is usually the page title.
But before you do anything else, validate the document as you have a 
zillion machine errors to fix.

Best,
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Re: [WSG] * { display: inline; }

2008-02-19 Thread Tim White
On Feb 19, 2008 5:35 AM, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not so very odd...

 If you hunt around through Firefox's files you'll find one named
 html.css which specifies the default styling of all HTML elements. It
 includes the following:

Thank you Nick. I sorta kinda knew about the html.css file, just
didn't think of it. Good to know what's in it.

Tim


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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hi David

Thanks.

The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line height I
tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE has a lot of
white space between the lines...strange...

The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira   Role.
Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in IE.
What´s the best way to do something like this?

Thanks a lot again,

Laert


On Feb 19, 2008 11:07 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laert Jansen wrote:
 
  I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).
 
  I´ve just finished my online folio 
  http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but it looks like the way I want
  only with FF . I don´t know where´s the mistake.
 
  You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the
  job description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the
  page...
 
  Does anyone want to give me a little help...




 IE has difficulty with line-height set in pixels. Try a raw number such
 as 1.2 or whatever does it for you.
 You might try putting margin: 0; padding: 0;  on the body to bring all
 browsers to default; and, move the margin top to the header, and
 margin-bottom to the footer.
 I do not know what you mean about the job description.
 I'd consider using headings h1 through h6-- h1 is usually the page title.
 But before you do anything else, validate the document as you have a
 zillion machine errors to fix.
 Best,
 ~dL

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Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Thomassen

Screenshots sent.

Not sure how gracefully degrade. I think once when I used a translucent 
image it was an even colour and IE6 should simply degrade to display the 
colour solid. That worked fine for my use. Your case might be different 
though.




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Subject: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6



Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a 
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with 
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.


Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating background 
image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for normal browsers and 
one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the png from ie6 and give it 
the gif one  with conditional comments.


Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would be 
great.


beta page:

http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html

-thanks
kevin







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[WSG] repeating background png support ie6

2008-02-19 Thread kevin mcmonagle

Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a 
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with 
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.


Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating background 
image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for normal browsers 
and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the png from ie6 and 
give it the gif one  with conditional comments.


Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would 
be great.


beta page:

http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html

-thanks
kevin







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Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6

2008-02-19 Thread Christian Snodgrass

Instead of that, you could just use a CSS hack. Something like:
#background_div {
   background-image: url(background.png);
}

* html #background_div {
   background-image: url(background.gif);
}

The * html will make it so only only versions of IE will look at it 
(IE6), while modern browsers remain unaffected. Also, I'm fairly 
certain this will prevent the background.gif image from being loaded in 
modern browsers, since it isn't needed.


kevin mcmonagle wrote:

Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a 
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with 
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.


Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating 
background image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for 
normal browsers and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the 
png from ie6 and give it the gif one  with conditional comments.


Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would 
be great.


beta page:

http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html

-thanks
kevin







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RE: [WSG] long words not wrapping inside DIV

2008-02-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:23 PM

 I have a dropdown menu with a width of 150px. while localization some
texts are too long  
 and it is not wrapping inside the DIV and going outside the div. Is there
any way to wrap 
 long words. I don’t want to use scrollbars in the div and I can’t increase
the width of the DIV.

As Thomas suggested, you can use word-wrap: break-word; but that won't work
in all browsers.
Another thing you can try is to somehow plug a wbr / element within these
long words to create a soft break.
It's uggly, but it works...

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:


The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line 
height I tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE 
has a lot of white space between the lines...strange...


The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira   
Role. Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in 
IE. What´s the best way to do something like this?


Thanks a lot again,

Laert



 http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/





With regard to the body declaration correction you've made, change this:


body{
   background-color:#000;
   font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
   margin-left: 0px;
   margin-right: 0px;
   margin-top: 0px;
   margin-bottom: 0px;
   background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
  
}


to:

body{
   background-color:#000;
   font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
   margin: 0;
   padding:0;
   background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
  
}


For the paragraph leading in IE, change this:

#biography{
   font-size: 10px;
   line-height:0.8;
   margin-top: 8px;
   color: #999;
} 


to read:

#biography p {
   font-size: 10px;
   line-height:0.8;
   margin: 8px 0 0 0;
   color: #999;
}


For the description, you'll need to default the ul margin and padding.

Change this declation:
#menu ul {
   color:#999;
   font-size: 10px;
   padding-left: 3px;
   list-style-type: none;
   margin-bottom: 4px;
}

To read something like this:

#menu ul {
   color:#999;
   font-size: 10px;
   padding: 0 0 0 3px;
   list-style-type: none;
   margin: 0 0 4px 0;
}

BTW, the above menu id needs to change to a class in both the markup and 
the CSS.


An id is unique and can only be used once on a page. You've used it 
numerous times; consequently, correcting it to a class will do the 
trick, and simultaneousley fix some of the 30 markup validaton errors.


HTH,

~dL

PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic 
for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in 
IE, only adds insult to injury.











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Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6

2008-02-19 Thread Tony

Hey Kevin,

I have the same problem with my ies4linux, so I just use an online 
tester. For quick checks of IE6/7 I use the netrenderer: 
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and for more advanced checks use 
browsershots: http://browsershots.org/


Cheers,

Tony

kevin mcmonagle wrote:

Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a 
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with 
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.


Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating 
background image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for 
normal browsers and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the 
png from ie6 and give it the gif one  with conditional comments.


Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would 
be great.


beta page:

http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html

-thanks
kevin







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Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6

2008-02-19 Thread kevin mcmonagle
Tony I was using browsercam.com but these sites are far handier and 
free-thanks.
also the star selector hack works very well for this issue, thanks 
christian.

-best
kevin

Tony wrote:

Hey Kevin,

I have the same problem with my ies4linux, so I just use an online 
tester. For quick checks of IE6/7 I use the netrenderer: 
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and for more advanced checks use 
browsershots: http://browsershots.org/


Cheers,

Tony

kevin mcmonagle wrote:

Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a 
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with 
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.


Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating 
background image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for 
normal browsers and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the 
png from ie6 and give it the gif one  with conditional comments.


Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that 
would be great.


beta page:

http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html

-thanks
kevin







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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hey David! Thanks a lot!! It´s working now!!! :))) Thanks!!

On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laert Jansen wrote:
 
  The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line
  height I tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE
  has a lot of white space between the lines...strange...
 
  The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira
  Role. Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
  I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in
  IE. What´s the best way to do something like this?
 
  Thanks a lot again,
 
  Laert
 
 
 
   http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/
 



 With regard to the body declaration correction you've made, change this:


 body{
background-color:#000;
font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
margin-left: 0px;
margin-right: 0px;
margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;

 }

 to:

 body{
background-color:#000;
font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
margin: 0;
padding:0;
background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;

 }

 For the paragraph leading in IE, change this:

 #biography{
font-size: 10px;
line-height:0.8;
margin-top: 8px;
color: #999;
 }

 to read:

 #biography p {
font-size: 10px;
line-height:0.8;
margin: 8px 0 0 0;
color: #999;
 }


 For the description, you'll need to default the ul margin and padding.

 Change this declation:
 #menu ul {
color:#999;
font-size: 10px;
padding-left: 3px;
list-style-type: none;
margin-bottom: 4px;
 }

 To read something like this:

 #menu ul {
color:#999;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 0 0 0 3px;
list-style-type: none;
margin: 0 0 4px 0;
 }

 BTW, the above menu id needs to change to a class in both the markup and
 the CSS.

 An id is unique and can only be used once on a page. You've used it
 numerous times; consequently, correcting it to a class will do the
 trick, and simultaneousley fix some of the 30 markup validaton errors.

 HTH,

 ~dL

 PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
 for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
 IE, only adds insult to injury.










 You will still want to correct the 30 markup validation errors on your
 file.

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread dwain
 On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
  for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
  IE, only adds insult to injury.


the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make the
type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
dwain



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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

dwain wrote:



PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't
no picnic
for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it
frozen in
IE, only adds insult to injury.


the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make 
the type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.

dwain



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re: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/


Dwain,

The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having 
difficulty with the image text.


Best,
~dL




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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
:D  sure sure. I have to do something about this...

On Feb 19, 2008 11:42 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
   for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
   IE, only adds insult to injury.
 
 
 the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make the
 type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
 dwain



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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread dwain
 On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Dwain,
 
  The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
  difficulty with the image text.


you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were images.
dwain




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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
not frozen in Firefox.sure

On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dwain wrote:
 
 
  PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't
  no picnic
  for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it
  frozen in
  IE, only adds insult to injury.
 
 
  the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make
  the type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
  dwain
 
 
 
  --
  dwain alford






 re: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/


 Dwain,

 The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
 difficulty with the image text.

 Best,
 ~dL




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RE: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Naveen_Bhaskar
Thanks for the suggessions ... :-)

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] books

And now you don't even need to buy Sitepoint reference material:  
http://reference.sitepoint.com/css

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:50:59 +1000, Paul McCann  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would also reccomend the Sitepoint books. Work well as a reference
 when your working too, or just forgot something like i usually do :)

 Paul

 willdonovan wrote:

 I would also recommend the Sitepoint collection of books on
 javascript, CSS, SEO and many other titles.

 Particularly the 'Art  Science' series and also the 'Anthology'
 series of books.

 well laid out for learning quickly while in production.

 Oh and seeing that everyone else is doing it (also because I love the
 book)
 Don't Make me think - Steve Krug

 There are many others in the area of good standards presentation and
 information design, depends on what flavors you prefer.

 William



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Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Joe Ortenzi

you mean Dont make ME think, right? ;-)

you made me think about it...

;-)

On Feb 19 2008, at 07:29, Thomas Thomassen wrote:

Don't make the think -- A Common Sence Approach to Web Usability  
by Steve Krug


Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-19 Thread Alexey Novikov
K On 2/16/08, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
K Icons also help people make quick choices and allow you to provide
K the documents in a tabular format when required.

K Title of This Lengthy Document [PDF ICON] title=download the PDF:
K Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document [MSWORD ICON] title=download the
K Word Document: Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document

I use this pattern:
a href=document.pdfTitle_of_This_Lengthy_Document/a, PDF, 1234kb

or with icon:
a href=document.pdfimg src=pdf.gif alt=Download PDF 
/Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document/a, PDF, 1234kb


Regards,
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Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Aye! A case of my own head not thinking... ;)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Ortenzi 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] books


  you mean Dont make ME think, right? ;-)


  you made me think about it...


  ;-)


  On Feb 19 2008, at 07:29, Thomas Thomassen wrote:


Don't make the think -- A Common Sence Approach to Web Usability by Steve 
Krug


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