Re: [WSG] IE hacking.
Hi All, Thanks for your help it was useful. I like the comment about the customer always being right. Perhaps this could be forwarded to Microsoft as I am a customer and have asked them to build a standards compliant browser and yet they have chosen to ignore me. They are not aware of this insight obviously. LOL. Thanks again. On 20/03/2006, at 5:06 PM, Laurie Savage wrote: A little OT here, but 1) the client is always right seems a good place to start with a POTENTIAL client, and 2) Most people use IE and see no earthly reason not to, no matter what our opinion of it. Your customers are not web designers and are quite reasonably uninterested in standards or design principals. They just want something that works (or in the case of IE, appears to work!). Laurie Alastair Steel wrote: We now have a potential client that, for reasons beyond reason, wants to use IE. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks, Alastair. -- Laurie Savage = Student Assessment, Reporting and Tracking Pascoe Vale Girls College, 03 9306 2544 Lake Ave, Pascoe Vale, Victoria, 3044 = ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE hacking.
Hi all, We are an open source based software development company who deal mostly with SME businesses. We write mostly to the standards for CSS2 and deploy with Firefox, Mozilla or Safari. Not having to hack everything for IE has meant we can develop faster and cheaper. We now have a potential client that, for reasons beyond reason, wants to use IE. We have no intention of hacking the application for this purpose but may consider paying someone else who has the experience to do this for us. So my questions are?i/ Is it possible to just look at the CSS which controls the layout of the whole app and just hack that for them. This is preferable as each user has their own language file which calls their language and CSS. ii/ Or is it necessary to look at each page of the application (over 100) and hack the CSS to make them work? iii/ Or worst case scenario are there changes that may be required in the HTML. (I don't see why as everything that is to be displayed in the app is in a DIV and all DIVs are controlled with CSS).iv/ If we go to all the trouble for IE 6 will it all work in IE7. Or is this going to be a separate hack. I also need to work out the approximate costs of all the above so we can pass it on to the client. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks, Alastair.
[WSG] Quick help please...
Hi all, This is a simple question but I have not had the needed this functionality before. Is is possible to use CSS to insert text into HTML. I have a #logo where I usually insert the company logo but this client wants text and I do not particularly want to edit the application just to produce FOO Pty Ltd at the top. Any help appreciated. Thanks.Alastair
Re: [WSG] Quick help please...
No IE used by our users. Thanks for the link. Much appreciated. off topic I spoke to a CTO yesterday who is sticking with a 90k a year bill for an email solution because 6 executives want 100% blackberry support. LOL. That's a lot of $ to look like a w. On 28/02/2006, at 2:43 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote: Hi, This is a simple question but I have not had the needed this functionality before. Is is possible to use CSS to insert text into HTML. While it is possible to use CSS to generate content (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html), IE doesn't support it. Big surprise there! Unless the application is an intranet where IE is not supported, you're out of luck. cheers, Ben -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE7 Compatibility Team
Why would you hack standards compliant code for Microsoft. Ask if they would like to foot the bill or if they had considered writing an application that was standards compliant. Forget that as it may not have all the bugs and vulnerabilities that we have come to know and love. Yours Sincerely, Alastair Steel On 10/02/2006, at 11:40 AM, Geoff Pack wrote: Cade Whitbourn wrote: Wow. Microsoft are taking very pro-active measures to assist the developer community in fixing sites for IE7. I received an email from someone on the 'IE7 compatibility team' with a screenshot of our site in IE7 and a list of all our stylesheets with all the filters and hacks identified that we may need to modify. I'm impressed. Have other site owners received any similar contact from the IE7CPTTM yet? I would send them back a list of the css bugs they should fix so the filters and hacks that no longer work in IE7 won't be needed anyway. Geoff. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
