[WSG] Melbourne Employment Opportunity
I know employment opportunities are not supposed to be posed here but Im getting kinda desperate, so my apologies to the group. If you are in the Melbourne area and have experience in web standards development, CSS XHTML as well as some project management skills, then please send me a CV and your contact details off list. You can find out more about us at the domain below. Cheers, Luke Moulton Go4 Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.go4.com.au P: (03) 9530 6658 F: (03) 9530 6435 14B Warleigh Grv Brighton VIC 3186
[WSG] Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website
It's been a while since I've posted to the group, but I just couldn't help voicing my disappointment in regards to the new Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website http://www.mmv.vic.gov.au/ I can't believe a State Government site dedicated to the advancement of the ICT industry in Victoria could be so inaccessible. Luke Moulton GO4 Multimedia http://www.go4.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Semantics vs Light Code
Recent discussions about building a footer with numerous linked items styled as an unordered list has got me thinking about correct semantics verses light code/css. In using strictly correct semantics to mark-up content I think sometimes we run the risk of developing over complicated and bloated code. Building an inline, styled un-ordered list with appropriate css can add a bit of bulk to your css. So on one hand there's smaller file sizes, uncomplicated CSS (with fewer hacks) but imperfect semantics, and on the other there's perfect semantics bloated CSS with a few hacks thrown in for good measure. Where does one draw the line? Luke Moulton Go4 Multimedia Web Design Graphic Design www.go4.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Web Standards Developer Job
At the risk of being slightly OT, it's good to see that finally big business are hiring Web Standards Developers (although I wonder who's hiring - Microsoft Australia perhaps?): http://mycareer.com.au/jobseeker/job/viewjob.aspx?jobid=2699588j_o=web+ standards+developerj_l=melbournej_ag=hudsonfrom=jobalertalertid=1224 61 I have been informed that this position is going to be filled quickly! Luke Moulton GO4 Multimedia Web Design Graphic Design www.go4.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] how do I add a navigation type menu in CSS
Neen said: Hi, I've been trying to do a left hand navigation menu in CSS and have been having trouble getting the main content area to align next to the menu instead of below the menu. Can anyone share some tips or tutorials that can help me complete this task. Hi Neen, This might help: http://intensivstation.ch/css/templates/temp02.html Cheers, Luke Moulton * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Help Testing site on Mac - IE Safari
Hi Group, If anyone with a Mac has a spare sec, would you mind taking a quick look at this site template and letting me know if there are any major rendering probs in Mac (IE 5+ and Safari). http://acson.go4.gotdns.com/ The sites is XHTML Transitional and has been tested in IE 5.5+, Opera 7 Firefox 0.7. Many many thanks in advance. Cheers, Luke W www.go4.com.au E [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 03 9530 6658 F 03 9530 6435 M 0418 893 116 PO Box 147 Sandringham VIC 3191 Location 14B Warleigh Grv Brighton VIC 3186 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] the disappearing tabs
At a guess I recon they're disappearing under the sub nav. If you make the text size smaller in Firefox, one of them pops up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Friday, 9 July 2004 6:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] the disappearing tabs Here's my problem. It is only showing 6 of the 8 tabs. They are in the code and they all worked spiffy until I added an extra tab. If you look at the code there is a tab id=a6 and a7 but these two are not showing up. I can't figure it out. http://www.timeshareinsurance.com/v11.2/product.html This isn't life or death, I'm sure I will have 2 or 3 more versions before the real coding begins. But I thought it would be a good challenge for those that can spot missing code. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Web Standards ROI
An interesting article by Keith Robinson about the real world benefits of developing with web standards. Very applicable to some recent threads on WSG. http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archives/web_standards_roi.php Luke Moulton Go4 Multimedia W www.go4.com.au E [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 03 9530 6658 F 03 9530 6435 M 0418 893 116 PO Box 147 Sandringham VIC 3191 Location 14B Warleigh Grv Brighton VIC 3186 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Budget Design
Forgive me if this is a little off scope for this list, but having read the recent publication from Didier Hilhorst and Daniel Rubin of Sinelogic, Budget Design: Increase Profit by Improving Process (http://sinelogic.com/), I was wondering what other freelancers and small web development teams classified as a small budget website. To me it seems that the discussion of what we web developers charge our clients is a little taboo, but hey, I really want to know if our business is underpricing/overpricing our product. I know there are plenty of second year multimedia students charging a pittance for a table layout website that only looks good in I.E. - many of our clients come to us having been burnt by such an experience (no offence intended to any second year mm students). But how are other web dev businesses costing their XHTML/CSS sites. At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a 5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and can cost the client anywhere from AU$3.5K to AU$5.5K depending on customisation. Luke Moulton * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design
and this is why discussions about prices are usually taboo. Not so much the giving away of trade secrets, but that they're of *very* limited value to most everyone on a mailing list such as this. Thanks Mike. Agreed. Very difficult to compare Apples with apples between different design studios but more so across countries. I guess it was more a regional question and perhaps not suitable for this forum. Perhaps I need to network more with my piers! Luke Moulton * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?
Our web agency has been promoting the versatility of sites built to web standards instead of the our sites validate or the you could be threatened with legal action one day argument. Telling clients that their site will reach a larger audience, be forward compatible, or can be viewed better on handheld devices than table based layouts seems to be more convincing. We find that we don't have to charge much more for XHTML/CSS than we used to for table based designs because in most cases the development process is faster. Although it has been a steep learning curve (and still is) :) Luke Moulton My premise is that any sensible business person should try to differentiate from competitors by showing they have skills that no one else has, vast experience etc and justify charging more than the competition because of that So has any member of the WSG done that, justifying charging $X more than eg: the design agency down the road which makes webpages by putting sliced photoshop images into tables by saying something along the lines of I design to Web Standards and can show my product validates against these standards, this is like an industrial business getting ISO Quality certification for their processes and means my product/service satisfies web industry standards for quality of code, can other companies with proposals for your project do the same ? -- Neerav Bhatt * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Site Critique
Five excellent testing essentials. Thanks Russ. Luke Moulton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Weakley - Maxdesign Sent: Saturday, 29 May 2004 10:28 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Critique Hi Michael, A few quick tests I always do on a page are: 1. check for scalability (increase font size a few times to see if it breaks) 2. look at it without CSS 3. look in lynx 4. look in a range of browsers 5. look in print preview The left nav fails badly in Mac/IE5, can send you screenshots offlist if needed. The print preview does not look like it has been worked on - the browser message is visible at the top of the page when printed. If anything this is exactly the time you would NOT want the message to appear :) The usefulness of browser message has also been discussed a lot of times on list recently. Hope that didn't sound too brutal :) Russ I have been working on updating my blog for some time and I can only go over it with my fine-tooth comb but so much before I can't see the forest for the trees. I would like the members of this group to go to this beta version of my blog and critique to your heart's content and point out anything you see wrong. I'm a big boy and I can take criticism. The site is http://testjml.dyndns.org/ I am aware that some of the Archives pages will not validate as XHTML 1.0 Strict because I am in the process of making each entry validate. Any help would be much appreciated. Michael Rainey * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Screen Reader resources
Hi people, Can anyone tell me where to find a JAWS style screen reader (without the hefty price tag) for testing purposes. Thanks, Luke * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
