Re: [WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code
Hi there, - Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application? I haven't heard of one which is what I would call accessible :) - Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is the responsibility that of the company using it? The PS code is all tables and bad markup - so, it's the code, not the client. - Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft are actually working on standard code that is accessible? Can't say for sure. PS claim their current product is accessible, so it's very difficult to evaluate any claim they make :) I have heard hope for better in Fusion, since the current code base would just take too long to overhaul. - How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out? You can customise bits and pieces, but overall it's not customisable. PS would say otherwise; and you can probably customise it with a vast injection of time and money; but in a practical sense with a real-world budget no, it's not customisable. You might be able to change a few colours and a logo. You can probably tell I'm not a fan of PS :) cheers, h -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code
Hi, I am getting the total run around here from developers on Oracle/Peoplesoft and I was hoping someone on this list could help. My couple questions: - Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application? - Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is the responsibility that of the company using it? - Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft are actually working on standard code that is accessible? - How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out? Thanks ahead of time... Jesse -- Jesse Rodgers Manager, Web Communications Communications and Public Affairs University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada +1 519 888 4567 x3874, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code
Hi You could try running it through HTML tidy... or maybe you could write your own frontend to their backend? Do you have some example pages? Cheers JamesOn 12/3/05, Jesse Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I am getting the total run around here from developers onOracle/Peoplesoft and I was hoping someone on this list could help. Mycouple questions:- Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application? - Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is theresponsibility that of the company using it?- Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft areactually working on standard code that is accessible? - How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out?Thanks ahead of time...Jesse--Jesse RodgersManager, Web CommunicationsCommunications and Public AffairsUniversity of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada +1 519 888 4567 x3874, [EMAIL PROTECTED]**The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**
Re: [WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code
Hey, Oh the code is horrid. No question. What I am being told is that Peoplesoft/Oracle are *working on it* and there is nothing the developer using the tools can do. Drill down into a discussion with a development team and you find out that if they do change the way the HTML is then when/if they upgrade everything breaks. So I am told. What I am looking for is a case where: (a) people have an accessible deployment or (b) people have been forced to ditch it because of accessibility. I am hoping for (a) cause you can't convince a Peoplesoft developer that what they are using is essentially a dated tool set that is a throwback to 1996... and with the amount they make consulting I can see why. According to them: It is all powerful, does all things, nothing can handle the loads it does (it chokes on 5000 or less simultaneous users) and nothing can touch it. But really its just a tool that generates SQL and code for the front end in a visual authoring environment... There are (or was) a lot of uni's using it as they had some big add blitz in the late 90's promising all things to all people with regards to admissions, someone must have some idea ;) Jesse James Ellis wrote: Hi You could try running it through HTML tidy... or maybe you could write your own frontend to their backend? Do you have some example pages? Cheers James On 12/3/05, *Jesse Rodgers* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am getting the total run around here from developers on Oracle/Peoplesoft and I was hoping someone on this list could help. My couple questions: - Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application? - Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is the responsibility that of the company using it? - Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft are actually working on standard code that is accessible? - How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out? Thanks ahead of time... Jesse ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
