RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Wybrow, Mark



Hello

Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu
height  stretches past the banner image width


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Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:23 PM
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Subject: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

Working on a Mac, using Firefox, I've finally got some pages and CSS
that validate and work on IE mac, safari and opera.
But, IE on PCs might be another story. They worked on PCs quite a while
ago and I'm almost afraid to ask now.

The pages are very understated and plain. No flash or anything else
exciting. I'm trying for a calm and peaceful look.


If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let
me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?

I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page -
http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html

Thanks in advance!

Barry

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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Barry Cranmer
Hello,
Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot.
Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess.
Thanks again.

On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27  PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote:

Hello
Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu
height  stretches past the banner image width
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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote:
 If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and 
 let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?

I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from 
memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather 
than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just 
doesn't seem a sensible use of resources.
Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major 
browsers - perfect.

HIH
Lea
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Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web 
Design
Brisbane, Australia
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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
well, not exactally what your intending, but :

#menu
{
float: left;
margin-top: 1.2em;
margin-left: 1em;
padding:0;
width: 9em; 
line-height: 2em;
}

makes it play nice in FF/Win and IE6/Win.  IE/Win dosn't play nice
with position:fixed; afaik.

hope this is at least a little helpful

~j



On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:41:26 -0500, Barry Cranmer
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 Hello,
 
 Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot.
 
 Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 
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  Hello
 
  Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu
  height  stretches past the banner image width
 
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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Jeffrey Hardy
Barry Cranmer wrote:
 If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let
 me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?

 I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page -
 http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html
Barry -
Looks alright in firefox 1.0 on windows xp sp2, but the main content 
falls lower than the left menu in internet explorer 6. My guess is that 
you'll have to float #contents.

On another note, however, I noticed that your doctype of 'html 4.01 
transitional' doesn't agree with your xhtml-style tags, such as 'br /'.

html 4.01 doesn't require that you close your tags, and when you do, the 
(wdg) validator complains: 'net-enabling start-tag; possibly missing 
required quotes around an attribute value'.

This doctype is also triggering quirks-mode in ie, which could be partly 
responsible for the inconsistencies.

See http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/doctype.html for more on doctypes.
HTH
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http://shiftmediagroup.com
Standards Compliant Web Development


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RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Wybrow, Mark

This little article might be of help...

http://builder.com.com/5100-6371_14-5164730-2.html



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Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

Hello,

Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot.

Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess.

Thanks again.



On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27  PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote:




 Hello

 Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu
 height  stretches past the banner image width

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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer  
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The pages are very understated and plain. No flash or anything else  
exciting. I'm trying for a calm and peaceful look.

If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let  
me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?

I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page -  
http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html

Thanks in advance!
Barry
The evil empire in XP_SP2 1280 sees a very a calm and peaceful site with a  
very long line-width. Menu remains stationary, everything else scrolls  
with, and without zoom, in FF1.0, and Opera7.54u1. OK in Opera small  
window. IE6.0 is broken. Menu *and* text stationary. The entire content  
container has dropped straight down-- it's top is about 25px below the  
bottom line of the menu.

Best,
David


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Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Bruce
As a new member this leaves me in a position of being hesitant to post, 
not wanting to bother anyone. So far I have liked the group, and both am 
interested in viewing the sites posted such as this one, and learn from 
it all.

I am the type though, not to want to bother anyone, in which case I am 
hesitant to post anything at all...?

Bruce
Lea de Groot wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote:
 

If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and 
let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?
   

I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from 
memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather 
than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just 
doesn't seem a sensible use of resources.
Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major 
browsers - perfect.

HIH
Lea
 

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RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

2005-01-05 Thread Wybrow, Mark

I say post away ... :)

This is a friendly place ... [isn't it]
We can filter  answer, we are all big ppl [aren't we?] - I am sure if
it's a stupid post some one will tell you or help - you know the saying
some ppls garbage is another's treasure

My $00.02


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check

As a new member this leaves me in a position of being hesitant to post,
not wanting to bother anyone. So far I have liked the group, and both am

interested in viewing the sites posted such as this one, and learn from
it all.

I am the type though, not to want to bother anyone, in which case I am

hesitant to post anything at all...?

Bruce

Lea de Groot wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote:
 

If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and
let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire?
   


I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from
memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather
than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just
doesn't seem a sensible use of resources.
Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major
browsers - perfect.

HIH
Lea
 

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