RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Cranmer Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check Working on a Mac, using Firefox, I've finally got some pages and CSS that validate and work on IE mac, safari and opera. But, IE on PCs might be another story. They worked on PCs quite a while ago and I'm almost afraid to ask now. The pages are very understated and plain. No flash or anything else exciting. I'm trying for a calm and peaceful look. If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page - http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html Thanks in advance! Barry ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
Hello, Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot. Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess. Thanks again. On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27 PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote: Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote: If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just doesn't seem a sensible use of resources. Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major browsers - perfect. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
well, not exactally what your intending, but : #menu { float: left; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-left: 1em; padding:0; width: 9em; line-height: 2em; } makes it play nice in FF/Win and IE6/Win. IE/Win dosn't play nice with position:fixed; afaik. hope this is at least a little helpful ~j On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:41:26 -0500, Barry Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot. Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess. Thanks again. On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27 PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote: Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
Barry Cranmer wrote: If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page - http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html Barry - Looks alright in firefox 1.0 on windows xp sp2, but the main content falls lower than the left menu in internet explorer 6. My guess is that you'll have to float #contents. On another note, however, I noticed that your doctype of 'html 4.01 transitional' doesn't agree with your xhtml-style tags, such as 'br /'. html 4.01 doesn't require that you close your tags, and when you do, the (wdg) validator complains: 'net-enabling start-tag; possibly missing required quotes around an attribute value'. This doctype is also triggering quirks-mode in ie, which could be partly responsible for the inconsistencies. See http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/doctype.html for more on doctypes. HTH Best, -- Jeffrey Hardy Application Developer http://shiftmediagroup.com Standards Compliant Web Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
This little article might be of help... http://builder.com.com/5100-6371_14-5164730-2.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Cranmer Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:41 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check Hello, Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot. Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess. Thanks again. On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27 PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote: Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pages are very understated and plain. No flash or anything else exciting. I'm trying for a calm and peaceful look. If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page - http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html Thanks in advance! Barry The evil empire in XP_SP2 1280 sees a very a calm and peaceful site with a very long line-width. Menu remains stationary, everything else scrolls with, and without zoom, in FF1.0, and Opera7.54u1. OK in Opera small window. IE6.0 is broken. Menu *and* text stationary. The entire content container has dropped straight down-- it's top is about 25px below the bottom line of the menu. Best, David -- http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
As a new member this leaves me in a position of being hesitant to post, not wanting to bother anyone. So far I have liked the group, and both am interested in viewing the sites posted such as this one, and learn from it all. I am the type though, not to want to bother anyone, in which case I am hesitant to post anything at all...? Bruce Lea de Groot wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote: If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just doesn't seem a sensible use of resources. Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major browsers - perfect. HIH Lea ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
I say post away ... :) This is a friendly place ... [isn't it] We can filter answer, we are all big ppl [aren't we?] - I am sure if it's a stupid post some one will tell you or help - you know the saying some ppls garbage is another's treasure My $00.02 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 3:04 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check As a new member this leaves me in a position of being hesitant to post, not wanting to bother anyone. So far I have liked the group, and both am interested in viewing the sites posted such as this one, and learn from it all. I am the type though, not to want to bother anyone, in which case I am hesitant to post anything at all...? Bruce Lea de Groot wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote: If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just doesn't seem a sensible use of resources. Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major browsers - perfect. HIH Lea ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **