Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Robert O'Rourke

Rob Enslin wrote:
Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag 
to use with quotes? These are actual comments made by folk during a show.


For example:

q

pqLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an 
exciting 7 new products which our customers loved. LIW is a great 
event to help us showcase our products and present our latest 
solutions to the market!/qbr /

TECHNOGYM UK LTD/p

or

cite

pciteLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an 
exciting 7 new products which our customers loved. LIW is a great 
event to help us showcase our products and present our latest 
solutions to the market!/citebr /

TECHNOGYM UK LTD/p

Any help most appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob 


Hi Rob,

In this case I'd use the blockquote element personally eg.

blockquote cite=www.technogym.com
   p
  LIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an exciting 
7 new products which our...

   /p
   citeTECHNOGYM UK LTD/cite
/blockquote

Alternatively use q to wrap the quote itself, and cite to mark up 
the source of the quote.


The spec has some more examples: 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2


Regards,
another Rob


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Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread David Dorward


On 20 May 2008, at 16:13, Rob Enslin wrote:

Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate  
tag to use with quotes? These are actual comments made by folk  
during a show.


You are quoting paragraphs, use blockquote.

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Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Rahul Gonsalves

On 20-May-08, at 8:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote:

Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate  
tag to use with quotes?


The most appropriate tag to use is the blockquote element. I would  
mark up your content like so:


blockquote
  pLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an  
exciting 7 new products which our customers loved. LIW is a great  
event to help us showcase our products and present our latest  
solutions to the market!/p

  pciteTECHNOGYM UK LTD/cite/p
/blockquote


q


The q element should be used for [...] short quotations (inline  
content) that don't require paragraph breaks. [1].



cite


The cite element (or citation) is used to specify the source of the  
quote, and to use it to mark up a quote would be semantically  
incorrect. [2]



Best,
 - Rahul.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1


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Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Rob Enslin
That's pretty clear.

Many thanks Robert, David and Rahul.

2008/5/20 Rahul Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 20-May-08, at 8:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote:

  Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to
 use with quotes?


 The most appropriate tag to use is the blockquote element. I would mark
 up your content like so:

 blockquote
  pLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an exciting 7 new
 products which our customers loved. LIW is a great event to help us showcase
 our products and present our latest solutions to the market!/p
  pciteTECHNOGYM UK LTD/cite/p
 /blockquote

  q


 The q element should be used for [...] short quotations (inline content)
 that don't require paragraph breaks. [1].

  cite


 The cite element (or citation) is used to specify the source of the quote,
 and to use it to mark up a quote would be semantically incorrect. [2]


 Best,
  - Rahul.

 [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2
 [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1



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Re: [WSG] Tag for quotes

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Ray
This question was asked less a week ago, here was my reply:

The W3C has an example of the use of the cite and quote elements here:
http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/xhtml2/spec-examples/mod-text/cite
-ex01.xhtml

Or you can read all about quotations here:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2

You could avoid the blockquote and use a paragraph depending on the length
of the quoted text. Only use the q element if it is an inline quote (i.e., a
short quote). If you want a lengthy quote, use the blockquote.

An inline quote example:

code

pcite cite=http://www.comany-url.com;Company XYZ says/cite q
lang=us-enYou are the best!/q/p

/code

A block level quote example (as Mike indicated above):

code

blockquote
pI have a lot of things to say about this guy. He's done a really great
job! cite cite=http://www.company-url.com;--- Company XYZ/cite/p
/blockquote

/code

You can also add an anchor around the company name if you want to link to
their website. I don't believe the cite *attribute* (as opposed to
*element*or 'tag') is compulsory if you're not referring to an online
source, but I'm
not entirely certain.

Jason

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Rob Enslin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's pretty clear.

 Many thanks Robert, David and Rahul.

 2008/5/20 Rahul Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 20-May-08, at 8:43 PM, Rob Enslin wrote:

  Please could someone help me decide which is the most appropriate tag to
 use with quotes?


 The most appropriate tag to use is the blockquote element. I would mark
 up your content like so:

 blockquote
  pLIW 2007 was a great show for Technogym. We showcased an exciting 7
 new products which our customers loved. LIW is a great event to help us
 showcase our products and present our latest solutions to the market!/p
  pciteTECHNOGYM UK LTD/cite/p
 /blockquote

  q


 The q element should be used for [...] short quotations (inline
 content) that don't require paragraph breaks. [1].

  cite


 The cite element (or citation) is used to specify the source of the quote,
 and to use it to mark up a quote would be semantically incorrect. [2]


 Best,
  - Rahul.

 [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2
 [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1



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